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Charlie

00:33

Why does /var/cache/apt/archives keep deleting files http://bit.ly/mOBTDG #1104

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on July 3, 2011 at 12:26 AM

The Evil Phoenix

00:54

</boom>

Roland Taylor

02:21

such lies!

George Edison

02:44

Oooooooh... I HATE it when that happens.

I just finished typing up a huuuuge long bug report...

...and right at the very end, I discovered that it was my mistake.

Wasted time!

Amith kk

Hello all

FlackBot

@Amithkk Hey, nice to see you!

2

Amith kk

@GeorgeEdison How many times did that happen to you?

George Edison

Lots!

Amith kk

I dont write overly detailed bug reports :P

upgrading system from 10.10

@GeorgeEdison where do you live ?

George Edison

03:03

@Amithkk What does my profile say? :)

Amith kk

My computer

i want the city/state

Its 5 in the morning for stefano

\o @RolandTaylor

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison somewhere in the Milky Way, approximately.

@Amithkk oi!

Amith kk

@RolandTaylor isnt it 11:05 saturday there?

Roland Taylor

yeah

Soon going to bed (in about an hour)

Amith kk

its 8:35AM Sunday Here :)

@RolandTaylor Do you have kids?

Roland Taylor

03:12

@Amithkk lol nope

Amith kk

i thought you would be interested in the pudding

Roland Taylor

what pudding is that?

Is this something I should be mildly afraid of O_-?

-_O

Amith kk

see the transcript , amithswebblog.wordpress.com

George Edison

@Amithkk It is?

P.S.... this is the wrong room :P

Roland Taylor

No problem. It's Windows.

Amith kk

03:19

but its opera

so it'll effect android too!]

Roland Taylor

e.e

First, Windows... second... Java...

u.u

Amith kk

but the old one is fine

George Edison

→ 1 message moved to StackMobile Discussion

Amith kk

in StackMobile Discussion, 33 secs ago, by Amith kk

George Edison

@Amithkk Oh! That is ugly.

I think it has to do with jQuery Mobile.

Does the old version look alright?

stackmobile.com

Amith kk

03:29

Yes it does

George Edison

Oh, okay.

Amith kk

actually old one is looking great

@GeorgeEdison Basically Android Opera uses the same JS engine

George Edison

@Amithkk They do...?

I thought Android used a WebKit based browser.

Charlie

Why doesn't Chrome or Firefox auto-highlight the address bar? http://bit.ly/j04WkB #firefox

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on July 3, 2011 at 3:26 AM

Amith kk

@GeorgeEdison I meant the Android version of opera

which 53% of users use

George Edison

03:33

I see. But it works in Opera, right?

Amith kk

no it does not work in opera

but on fennec its fine

@GeorgeEdison do you need android testers?

George Edison

@Amithkk That would be great.

Amith kk

im installing android VM right now

@GeorgeEdison and are ya planning to create a new logo?

George Edison

Well... I kind of have one.

There we go.

Roland Taylor

I'm out ^^!

Amith kk

03:45

Uh Google 'appdev' too busy

@GeorgeEdison wait ill install gimp

Amith kk

04:03

in StackMobile Discussion, 48 secs ago, by Amith kk

How's teh logo

BRB gotta reboot

is back

*

Iszi

04:33

?

Amith kk

I was bored :)

only app open firefox

upgrading

Amith kk

04:45

google.com/calendar/…

Amith kk

05:05

wp.me/P1EXy3-s

Takkat

06:16

Good morning all

ManjotSingh

Morning :)

Takkat

sub @ManjotSingh

ManjotSingh

sub?

Takkat

sorry wrong key ^p whats up?

ManjotSingh

bbl

Takkat

06:18

that's not much :D

Amith kk

06:37

@Takkat Yay someone online

i have 5 mins

Takkat

hi @Amithkk :)

why 5 min only?

Amith kk

amithswebblog.wordpress.com < new classroom applet

@Takkat coffee break :D

Takkat

just had coffee (couldn't be awake otherwise)

Amith kk

is studying

and upgrading to 11.04

Takkat

both are good ideas!

Amith kk

06:41

sigh

Takkat

was upgrading 4 virtual machines yesterday

Amith kk

i wish i hadn't lost my data

Takkat

Backup is for cowards!

Amith kk

Murphy's laws

The day its gonna crash the backup is not there

Takkat

lol

Amith kk

06:43

Western Digital owes me 2400 man hours

although i like my new sander

Takkat

all hard disks will fail at some day

Amith kk

only the first platter was made of glass

Takkat

sooner or later

Charlie

What is the best place for learning how to use Ubuntu? http://bit.ly/l957Rh #learn

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on July 3, 2011 at 6:26 AM

Amith kk

LOL

Recursion @Charlie

Takkat

06:46

oh an elephant on TV (Penguins of Madagascar)

Octavian Damiean

06:57

'lo

Takkat

o/ @OctavianDamiean

Rinzwind

07:12

morning

Takkat

waves

2

Amith kk

07:25

@Takkat your kids see that ? on nick right?

Takkat

they watch all super noisy stuff here ;)

Amith kk

i like that show

which episode?

Takkat

bah wouldn't know - that's beyond my world :P (it's badly dubbed anyway)

Amith kk

dubbed into what?

oh season 4

aka The voice actors haz left teh room

@Takkat curious. What is your gravatar anyway? :P

BBL

Amith kk

07:44

notices that room is inactive

Takkat

more quiet than inactive :P

Amith kk

:D

Takkat

we're still the most active chat on SE

Amith kk

we are proude

MacroHard

O.o my cuz is coming over today

fits cabinet cover

Takkat

brb kids need me

Amith kk

07:50

is there child-safe mode on ubuntu?

Takkat

Ubuntu is child safe

only the internet isn't :(

but you can block sites

(until the blocking mechanism is cracked)

Amith kk

i mean i dont want him to go to terminal and type rm rf /*

and yes youtube teached that to him

@Takkat Tux cookies

i got teh shape but no colours :(

Takkat

kids never are sudoers ;)

Amith kk

08:05

@Takkat you donnt need sudo for rm

Takkat

I don't mind if they purge their /home - all game scores and levels lost \o/

is an evil dad, I know

Alvar

Hi all

wake up Stefano Palazzo... :P

Takkat

08:23

good afternoon @Alvar

brb

Amith kk

is back

Octavian Damiean

08:45

@Amithkk of course you need root privileges to delete the root directory in terms of / or any directory that is not yours.

Amith kk

everything is mine except root

Octavian Damiean

I doubt that ;)

Amith kk

anyways i have to close the cabinet

Octavian Damiean

Running that command will just delete all of your stuff, nothing else. ;)

Amith kk

i dont want overheating caused by a innocently unplugged gpu fan

He appears. facepalm

@Takkat Absorbers?

yay he haz school tommrrow

Octavian Damiean

08:54

@Amithkk Takkat has no absorbers on weekends. ;)

Takkat

@OctavianDamiean: kids can become absorbers ;)

ManjotSingh

Back again :)

Hi All

FlackBot

@ManjotSingh Hey, nice to see you!

ManjotSingh

Thank you,Do we have chat before FlackBot?

I am not Ubuntu Guy,I am MAC Guy :)

Yesterday,I tried to run Ubuntu on Virtual Box in my Office iMac,but I failed to run :(

Takkat

what went wrong?

ManjotSingh

09:01

20 hours ago, by ManjotSingh

Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)

20 hours ago, by ManjotSingh

Make sure the kernel module has been loaded successfully.

Leave,Today I am enjoying my weekend and I'll try tomorrow again :)

Takkat

So the problem is that Virtual Box is not running on your MAC rather than Ubuntu not installing in your Virtual Box, right?

ManjotSingh

No,VB is running successfully but when I am selecting .iso file of Ubuntu it shows an error

Takkat

that's weird - Ubuntu kernels don't need a kernel driver when running inside VBox but OSX needs them to run VBox.

Octavian Damiean

oh that was the wrong one

ManjotSingh

Hi Octavian,Today I don't want to work,nor I have my iMac, it is in office I am at home :)

Takkat

09:12

Weekend \o/

Charlie

09:27

Why don't my quicklists appear when I use Unity 2D? http://bit.ly/mxAoRX #1104

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on July 3, 2011 at 9:26 AM

Alvar

09:43

@OctavianDamiean long time

@Takkat afternoon?!?! it's 11:43! it's breakfast! :D

@Flackbot who created you?

FlackBot

@Alvar To be honest... I really don't have the capability of understanding that statement yet.

ManjotSingh

What does it mean?

Alvar

what what?

ManjotSingh

1 min ago, by Alvar

@Flackbot who created you?

Alvar

it should answer Geroge Edison did ...

ManjotSingh

09:50

Who is Geroge Edison? Why did Geroge Edison answer?

Takkat

wants a new mobile phone

ManjotSingh

Range and Features needed?

Takkat

more a budget issue: <200€

Features not many: email web

nice display!

ManjotSingh

if only email web needed then go for BlackBerry

Takkat

long standby

Blackberry breaks my budget...

ManjotSingh

10:05

Then go for HTC Desire

or HTC wildfire

if you will ask me which one will I buy then I go for iPhone only none other :)

Takkat

I know but this definitely breaks my budget (and my FOSS-heart)

ManjotSingh

why don't you buy 3G or 3gs

brb

back again

Achu

0

A: Endless USB Loop: Disconnect-Reconnect (ZTE ac682)

User Gnome-ppp Install gnome-ppp sudo apt-get instal gnome-ppp Run gnome-ppp and setup your configuration. click on setup and detect your modem close after detecting the modem and on connect

Takkat

10:36

bbl

Alvar

is there a stackoverflow site that shows which classes that are available? Or do they have classes like askubuntu?

@Takkat aren't u on a holiday of some sort?

@ManjotSingh iPhone? don't go there @OctavianDamiean will eat you alive! :)

ManjotSingh

Why?I am iPhone Software developer and Started with Android a month ago and now a days working BlackBerry app development :)

Alvar

@ManjotSingh hehe :D

@ManjotSingh I love Apple and all there stuff, can't explain it just do...

@octavianDamiean is the exact opposite of me!

ManjotSingh

I know :)

Alvar

is it hard to learn how-to Iphone sdk?

ManjotSingh

10:50

Oh! Are you from Sweden?One of my client is from Stockholm :)

Alvar

@ManjotSingh coool

@ManjotSingh I live in the south of sweden... (sweden should be called little USA :P )

ManjotSingh

How far Stockholm from your place?

Alvar

@ManjotSingh like 500 kilometers :(

ManjotSingh

lol

Alvar

maps.google.co.uk/maps/…

ManjotSingh

10:53

My company is also about to shift a branch in Stockholm very soon.May I'll come there

Alvar

Do you have some tips If I would start to learn to code for Iphone?

@ManjotSingh coool

My JAva teacher/friend lives in stockholm (sthlm)

What apps do you have for Iphone?

Achu

0

Q: How can i change Notify-osd Sound?

I don't like the current notification sound. I thought the sound is the browser sound but it is not i heard different sound the same browser different chat rooms. How can i change that.

Rinzwind

it makes sounds? >:D

Achu

@Rinzwind Hi

Alvar

@ManjotSingh What apps have you done for app store?

Achu

11:02

yes it makes sound

Rinzwind

mine doesn't :\

Alvar

meta question?

@Rinzwind if u have desktop notification n it does yes!

Rinzwind

?

Achu

@Rinzwind do have the latest version?

Rinzwind

natty :\

Alvar

11:04

id you have desktop notifications of askubuntu and other sites when someone @Rinzwind you get a pling sound

Rinzwind

aha

Achu

mine is Version: 2.3.0

Alvar

of what?

Rinzwind

but but that does not relate to notify-osd does it? isn't that the browser that does this?

Alvar

@Rinzwind no this is a add on from the site

@Alvar

@rinzwind ping me

Achu

11:07

@Alvar do you think this a meta question? i saw many question here askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/notify-osd

Rinzwind

@Alvar no I will not ping you :-D

Alvar

@Rinzwind u just did lol brb....

Rinzwind

>:-D

that's my kind of humor ;-)

bbl

Alvar

this is what he asks about

desktop notifications sound

Lekensteyn

Hello @all

Alvar

11:12

0

Q: How do I change the notification sound on desktop-notifications?

The sound that comes after this is annoying I want to change it. is this possible?

discussion desktop-notifications

edit and add more info

the info u think is right. it's your question! ;)

Lekensteyn

Hmm, I wanted to close it for "Off-topic" and move it to the main site, but the system does not allow that

Alvar

@Lekensteyn what close?

Achu

@why did you do that?

Stefano Palazzo

@Alvar We'll definitely make the transcript available. It shouldn't be too hard to convert it

Achu

i already posted on the main site

Alvar

11:15

@StefanoPalazzo cool :) good morning! :)

@Lekensteyn it's a question about askubuntu it should be on meta

Stefano Palazzo

good afternoon to you too ;)

Lekensteyn

Quoting my comment from AU: @Alvar: It's not a meta question. A meta question is about the site itself, this question is about Ubuntu itself: changing the notify-osd sound, which does not have to be related to AU

Alvar

@Lekensteyn just answerd it...

Achu

@Lekensteyn Thank you! i was writing that kind of comment

Stefano Palazzo

@Achu I'm about 80% sure the sound has got nothing to do with desktop notifications

Alvar

11:18

@Achu your question isn't very clear could you explain what you exactly want to do...

Stefano Palazzo

(from having built something very similar to this chat, I know that desktop notifications don't make a sound)

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo I thought he wanted to change the desktiop notification sound...

Stefano Palazzo

so, yeah it's a meta question

Alvar

he talked about AU in his questiuon and different chat romms...

@StefanoPalazzo was I correct? :)

Stefano Palazzo

no idea, I didn't read todays chat backlog ;)

Alvar

11:20

@StefanoPalazzo well I have desktop notifications on now and they make a sound so what is the sound comming form?

@StefanoPalazzo hehe

Stefano Palazzo

just two things happening at the same time

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1580/… ....

Achu

@Alvar I'm talking about General OSD-Notification sound

Lekensteyn

Ah, well the question is misleading then, should it be migrated to meta and closed as dupe? Or change the contents to match "change notify-osd sound"?

Alvar

@Achu put that in your question, and explain what chat rooms u mean

Stefano Palazzo

11:21

from the source code of the Stack Exchange Chat:

this.config.audio=document.createElement("audio");this.config.audio.id=this.con‌fig.aid;c.extend(this.config,{canPlayMP3:!!

...

Alvar

@Lekensteyn or explain wha the wants becuse I dont get it

Stefano Palazzo

@Achu yeah I got that. Chrome's desktop notifications do not make a sounds themselves

the website does it separately

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo So it's a meta?

Achu

@StefanoPalazzo yes that is what i noticed

Stefano Palazzo

@Achu it's not a problem, I can move the question to Meta if you want

Achu

11:23

@StefanoPalazzo no problem

Stefano Palazzo

how are you supposed to know that anyway. honest mistake

Achu

I listen music on beside on chat and that sound is annoying

Stefano Palazzo

yeah I agree

Achu

it is not a nice sound :)

Alvar

@Achu I like it, u notice that something has happend that's why I have the notification on..

@StefanoPalazzo you should be able to change it... via your AU profile...

or disable the sound...

Achu

11:27

@Alvar are you working on OSD-Notification development?

Alvar

@Achu no but I should have been ;)

Achu

yes you should :)

Alvar

@Achu Where can I find it? @stefanoPalazzo ? ;)

or at least be one the brainstorm team...

Achu

you should contact @Marco Ceppi

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi Is there a way I could join the brainstorm team for the desktop notifications? ;)

emailing him instead.... :P

Stefano Palazzo

11:32

again, Marco can't do anything about the sound. these are totally different things

sound and notifications are completely separate

Achu

So the solution is only from SE instead of disabling the sound

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo so the sound is stackexchange? and the notification is AU (Marco Ceppi)?

@Achu LAME

Stefano Palazzo

well, not exactly

Alvar

lol

Stefano Palazzo

the notifications are an HTML5 feature (I think) which is currently implemented in Chrome and Chromium. Marco has written an extension that uses libnotify to display them on ubuntu. but If you don't use Marco's extension, they still work

but they won't look as good

Alvar

11:38

@StefanoPalazzo and the sound?

Stefano Palazzo

the sound is just plain old html5

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo so you should eb able to make an extension that makes you be able to choose a sound.

Stefano Palazzo

 (new Audio("message_for_me")).play();

(this is how you play a sound in modern browsers)

Alvar

and the audio is that only a default?

Stefano Palazzo

it's just like a link to an image

this javascript puts an audio tag on the page, like <audio src="message_for_me">

Alvar

11:41

but still u should be able to change it....

Stefano Palazzo

it's theoretically possible, but it'd be quite a hack

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo aaa,,,, chrome add on?

Lekensteyn

I'll try to make a userscript for it

@StefanoPalazzo are you a SE dev?

Alvar

@Lekensteyn cool :)

@Lekensteyn if not, marco probably is :P

Stefano Palazzo

@Lekensteyn that'd be awesome. You should only have to replace a URL (the sound file). But note: there are quite a few of them for different browsers. The chat tries to check if your browser can play MP3s, then OGGs, ... lastly it uses Flash if all else fails

Lekensteyn

11:44

Is the uncompressed/unobfuscated source available? JSB helps a lot, but the variable names are one letters

Stefano Palazzo

Neither marco nor I work on any stack exchange software

@Lekensteyn I don't think so. :\

but I remember chrome can de-obfuscate javascript (they talked about it at Google I/O, it's probably in the dev channel by now)

Lekensteyn

@StefanoPalazzo I don't think chromium can recover the variable names, otherwise the author would make good money of it ;)

Stefano Palazzo

right :)

holy cow

Lekensteyn

Okay, I'm currently tracing startChat

Stefano Palazzo

okay, press Ctrl+Shift+I, go to the "Scripts" tab, right click the source code window and click "De-Obfuscate Source"

it's pretty bloody impressive

the stuff you're interested in is in master-chat.js at around line 920

Lekensteyn

11:49

@StefanoPalazzo: that's exactly what jsbeautifier.org does :) I'm now using the regex \bc\b in StartChat

Stefano Palazzo

it won't be long before Chrome's "Inspect Element" thing will be a full IDE

it's already better than most of them (:

could someone ping me?

Amith kk

@StefanoPalazzo I haz pinged ya

Stefano Palazzo

thanks :)

and hello

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo does it work? or? :O

drum role :P

Stefano Palazzo

nope :) but I didn't give it my best

Alvar

11:55

aaaw... :(

Stefano Palazzo

I also don't know how to write user-scripts

Alvar

aa..

Stefano Palazzo

talk to George Edison when he gets here. Maybe you'll be able to get him excited by the idea

Alvar

well I don't even know how to make 2000's class websites :P

Amith kk

Aha nice time to catch up

Stefano Palazzo

11:57

he knows all about hacking SE :)

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo hmmm

Stefano Palazzo

@FlackBot define hacker

FlackBot

@StefanoPalazzo hacker [noun] - Informal One who is proficient at using or programming a computer; a computer buff.

Amith kk

there is a web console on firefox

Lekensteyn

Ctrl + Shift + K

Stefano Palazzo

11:59

that's not the same thing as Firebug, right?

Alvar

ctrl + shift + I in chrome :P

Amith kk

i know cant it be used for replacing sounds?

Stefano Palazzo

chrome's dev tools are just ♥♥♥

Alvar

@Amithkk good question lol fail

@StefanoPalazzo hehe :P

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