English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Cerberus

15:00

So at some point, somebody must have decided the old monuments weren't worth saving.

Mitch

Most american cities barely existed in the 18thc, even by mid 19th c there wasn't much

Cerberus

Really?

How many inhabitants did Boston have in 1800?

Mitch

@Cerberus there really wasn't much in terms of monuments to preserve, or bldgs built to last.

most residential architecture is still built with wood.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus yeah. I mean who wants to look at a bunch of old stone work? what a waste of space. You could put two coffee shops in that space.

Cerberus

@Mitch But why not? Are you sure?

@Mitch Now that you mention it...but why? Why is everything here bricks or concrete?

Jez

15:04

3

A: Who vs whom in "Who is the right person to turn to?

Sure, it's fine. In fact, Whom is the right person to turn to? sounds downright silly, and To whom is the right person to turn? is even sillier, if possible. No native English speaker would ever say either one, at least not in the USA. The best advice about the use of whom is Don't both...

shameful answer for this site. ought to be on a negative score.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен I don't like coffee.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus how about toffee?

Oct 29 '12 at 15:04, by Matt Эллен

just use who and never worry about the who/whom distinction.

Anonymous

If, however, you want to sound like a butler, whom is the tool for the job.

Jez

@MattЭллен yeah and just say the infinitive and don't bother to inflect verbs

Mitch

@Cerberus yes, I'm sure. There's really not that much to preserve. The skyscrapers are permanent because they're just hard to take down.

@Cerberus probably because there's not enough wood.

Jez

15:07

don't bother with anything hard, we want to dumb down

ffs

wouldn't be so bad on ELL but not on here

Matt Эллен

that's true of the whole question

Cerberus

The school has 50 teachers, most of who are bilingual. He is someone who I have great admiration for. Perhaps not standard English, but you can substitute whom quite easily with who and still be understood. — Mari-Lou A 16 hours ago

@MattЭллен Better.

@Mitch Then surely there were houses in 1900 that were nice looking and worth keeping?

Matt Эллен

Then I suggest all monuments must be replaces with toffee facsimilies.

Jez

@Cerberus be understood and be thought semiliterate

Cerberus

@Mitch Here? Wood is cheap, like everywhere.

Mitch

15:10

@Cerberus Yes, rich peoples mansion's in the suburbs.

Cerberus

@Jez "Most of who" sounds ridiculous. She has Lawler where she wants him.

Mitch

which is what most suburbs were in the 19thc/early 20thc

Cerberus

@Mitch I'm sure your inner cities looked nice!

Why wouldn't they?

Mitch

@MattЭллен everybody wins...even the dentists.

Cerberus

@Jez Agreed. I have added my votes.

Anonymous

15:13

Relevant LL post on whom: itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004084.html

Jez

be technically takes 2 subjects, doesn't it? "He is she"?

MετάEd

@Jez I think when the bee takes the first subject it usually leaves the stinger in and can't take any more subjets.

Jez

that joke's clutching at straws

Anonymous

@Jez alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxitsmev.html

Matt Эллен

@Jez she is an adverb in that situation. It modifies the verb be

Anonymous

15:23

Ow.

Matt Эллен

:D

Jez

she can't be an adverb...

Matt Эллен

that's so sexist!

Jez

he can't either

Matt Эллен

oh, well, I'll let you off then

how about in "she is home"? Is home a subject?

Jez

15:28

that's using be in a different sense

not indicating equality, but location

or status... or something

Cerberus

@Jez No: subject and subject complement, both in the nominative (as in most other languages).

Mitch

@Cerberus Yes, there are living remnants, like Georgetown in DC or Beacon hill in Boston

Cerberus

@MattЭллен That's not normally what it's called.

Jez

@Mitch that kind of attitude results in people saying "he did good" and meaning the wrong thing

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus awww. you're all against me! :Þ

Mitch

15:32

@Jez !! I totally disagree...I have a feeling though that Caprica won't understand me.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch luckily she can't hear you

Cerberus

@MattЭллен It's just about conventional labels! You can use a different set if you like, it doesn't change the language.

@Mitch See? So somehow they were allowed to be destroyed, and I wonder why.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus then you're all articles!

Cerberus

The same is happening now in China.

@MattЭллен And you're a stop.

Matt Эллен

astops

Cerberus

15:33

See?

Matt Эллен

:D

Mitch

@MattЭллен dammit..I want to be heard!

Jez

it's raining now, no sun. phew. i was worried summer wasn't going to arrive in Britain this year

Matt Эллен

"I want to be heard but all I got was this t-shirt"

@Jez we've got some kind of fog in Oxford

it's almost rain but not quite cold enough

Mitch

@Cerberus Because they weren't that great. Also, what if I bought a property and want to tear it down to make it better? That's why we left europe to have the freedom to destroy things.

actually 'allowed sounds a little too authoritarian.

out with the old, in with the new...that's Calvinist/Puritan right?

Matt Эллен

15:38

Out with the bold, in with the grue.

Cerberus

@Mitch Not great, but just nice.

Mitch

@Cerberus right destroying the slums to build fancy nice new buildings.

Cerberus

So you're saying it's all about having no laws to protect inner cities?

@Mitch Not slums! Just normal streets.

I mean, in normal inner cities, there are no slums. Everybody used to live in that part of the city that is now the inner city.

In China, they still destroy very old buildings.

And every city in the world will look just like every other city in the world.

With big Prada and McDonald's stores on top.

Matt Эллен

tasty, tasty Prada

Cerberus

When I wasin Istanbul, my Turkish friend wanted to show me the new malls and French restaurants and stuff. But I didn't come for French restaurants! We have those everywhere!

I liked things like the spice market and stuff.

@MattЭллен Burn it!

Robusto

15:44

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Q: Correct pronunciation of the word "Mature"?

I need to know the correct pronunciation of the word "mature". Is it məˈtʃʊr, məˈtjʊə(r) or məˈtʊr? And which one is mostly used, across the globe.

I pronounce it to rhyme with nature. Doesn't everybody?

Anonymous

My mom says it the other way.

Robusto

Yo mama.

Matt Эллен

muchoor

Anonymous

(I say that as though there are only two ways.)

Anonymous

Hey, wait a minute. Nature doesn't rhyme with mature!

Anonymous

15:46

It took me that long to realize.

Robusto

You're no fun.

Matt Эллен

mətʃ(j)uɜː(r)

@Robusto you're inature

Anonymous

Sorry, I'm too slow on the uptake to be fun.

Matt Эллен

bai

Robusto

►

@Shog9 It is if you're a lawyer.

MετάEd

16:23

"Is not this a lamentable
thing, that of the skin of an innocent lamb should
be made parchment? that parchment, being scribbled
o'er, should undo a man? Some say the bee stings:
but I say, 'tis the bee's wax; for I did but seal
once to a thing, and I was never mine own man
since."

Mitch

@Cerberus But that's what -they- want. and they live there. To them the spice market is dirty and squalid and an ugly mess.

@MετάEd Holy crap, just say what you mean, man! "Words mess you up"

wax? lamb? "mine own man"? He's got issues, that's fersure.

RegDwighт

16:46

@Cerberus no, most kids do not manage, in point of fact. Which is why we have urbanization in the first place.

But it's not my argument anyway, I'm just reporting on a study I read.

MετάEd

16:58

@Mitch Shakespeare had issues? Yeah, probably.

And too clever by half.

MετάEd

17:09

He'll be among the first up against the wall when the revolution comes. Workers of the world, unite!

Saladin

hey guys

can i get traveling tips in here?

MετάEd

@Saladin Yes, at travel.stackexchange.com

Saladin

in today i would be traveling to London for the very first time...i'm excited as well as little confused about how would i manage all the hustle n rush of the big city...

probably big in terms of population or tourist rush..

RegDwighт

17:49

You're from a small place yourself?

Then I guess there can be little advice other than dive in. It will be scary anyway, but also great fun.

Cerberus

18:08

@Saladin If you've been to a shopping street on a busy afternoon in any town, or any semi-large train station, you will be ready for London.

Saladin

@Cerberus yeah I mean for me its just welcoming myself to a new place freaks me out

Cerberus

You'll be fine!

Just be prepared. Know where you're going.

Saladin

and esp in my country the civil transport system is not at the level which exist in uk

Cerberus

Fumbling with maps on a busy street corner is annoying.

Saladin

e.g underground tubes...

yeah i suck at map reading....its like doing class 2 maths for me

Cerberus

18:10

You'll get used to it. Buy tickets beforehand.

Saladin

don't have the patience for me

Cerberus

Do you have a smartphone?

Saladin

yeah

Cerberus

Then make sure you download a (free) mapping application that works without an internet connection.

Then you can just tell it where to go and it'll take you.

Saladin

i agree @Cerberus nice idea

thanks

@Cerberus have u been to uk?

Cerberus

18:12

Make sure you test it well, though: many applications still work without a connection, but they don't allow you to search for a street name without Internet access.

Like Google Maps, which is useless without a connection.

@Saladin Yup.

Saladin

hmm so how do you describe it?

and are there like any safety tips for first time visitor?

Cerberus

It's not very different from other northern European countries.

@Saladin Beware of pickpockets.

Don't put your wallet in your back pocket.

Saladin

hmm i heard this advice from many people

Cerberus

Criminals can tell you're a tourist, and they know tourists pay less attention to what's happening, because they need to look at maps, signs, etc.

Saladin

yeah thats right

Cerberus

18:17

Taxis are expensive, so, if you take a taxi, ask for the price to your destination before getting in.

Offer a lower amount if it's too high.

Saladin

but aren't all taxi gps tracked

and have meter..

Cerberus

Possibly. But...

Taxis here (Amsterdam) have meters too, and yet we hear reports about tourists getting fleeced.

The driver should be able to give you an approximate price beforehand.

Or just use the underground for everything.

Saladin

hm ok make sense

Cerberus

So is this vacation?

Saladin

no like mix bag its part official part vacation;

actually going for tech training

Cerberus

18:20

Ah OK. Do you need to arrange transport from the airport to your hotel?

Saladin

any tips for passport guys? at airport

or the immigration

Cerberus

What about them?

Saladin

that transport thing is already been aranged

Cerberus

Great.

Saladin

like i heard the ask way too many questions

Cerberus

18:21

They may do so.

It's probably best to answer them all.

Saladin

yeah i'm more then happy to do so unless they plan to sent me back if i don't

lol

Cerberus

If the questions get too private, you can always say, "I'm sorry, that question is a little bit too private".

Saladin

okay

Cerberus

If you're not sure what to do at the airport, ask an official.

Even if it seems a stupid question. Getting nervous because you're not sure what to do is no fun for you.

Saladin

excellent advice @Cerberus

you are like big brother

Cerberus

18:26

Haha.

Saladin

i have to go and start packing stuff for flight

thanks once again:)

Cerberus

@Saladin Have fun, and don't worry! Oh, another thing: your hotel is a great place to ask questions. That's part of their function. Questions about anything. They can even buy tickets for your and call taxis.

Saladin

yes you should make use of surroundings....

Cerberus

Yup.

Saladin

once again excellent advice; i should make full use of facility i have paid for

thanks and bye . tc

Cerberus

18:28

Bye!

MετάEd

18:38

@RegDwighт Vier een vier.

Cerberus

Don't you mean vier nul vier?

MετάEd

No. 414 is to tl;dr as tl;dr is to anything else.

RegDwighт

Now I need the Dutch equivalent of "WUT".

Cerberus

Uhm, ah.

babylon.com/redirects/…

RegDwighт

Genghis Khan?

MετάEd

18:43

@Cerberus In Dutch would you actually say vier oo vier?

Cerberus

@MετάEd Of course not!

Nul is nul. O is a letter.

English ≠ Dutch.

MετάEd

@Cerberus Because in English (American, anyway) we say "four oh four" rather tahn "four zero four". We say "oh" instead of "zero" in many contexts, such as telephone numbers and addresses.

Cerberus

Of course.

But English ≠ Dutch.

Do you know any other language than English that does this? I don't...

MετάEd

@Cerberus English is not even Frisian.

Cerberus

Indeed not.

German has the silly zwei/zwo.

No other language has that.

Dutch has zeven/zeuven and juni/juno.

RegDwighт

18:46

@Cerberus English.

Cerberus

German = English now?

You're all confusing languages. Give me my hat.

RegDwighт

English has the silly two/twen/twin.

Cerberus

No.

RegDwighт

Now stop pretending you don't understand.

Or if you really do not understand, then stop wasting my time.

Cerberus

You stop.

No other language uses a different word for two in phone numbers, that I know of.

And note that zeuven is silly.

Whilst English o is normal.

MετάEd

19:07

@Cerberus We have a lot of strange bits involving the names of letters and numbers.

For example, "double you".

Cerberus

Now that is common.

MετάEd

"zee"/"zed".

Cerberus

I think all Romance languages have double-u.

And Dutch has y-grec v. Grieksche y.

But I have to go.

BRB

MετάEd

@Cerberus Yes, but how is that pronounced.

Cerberus

@MετάEd What?

MετάEd

19:11

@Cerberus No, BRB.

Cerberus

standing with wallet in hand

OK!

vanishes

aedia λ

19:25

skitters around nervously

Ever have one of those weeks where you think you can get everything done and then you totally, totally can't?

I think it's going to be that week now.

tries to breathe but also remember not to breathe and drink coffee at the same time

Matt Эллен

only breath when it won't kill you.

aedia λ

Right.

MετάEd

@MattЭллен Breathing always kills you. It oxidizes you to death.

If you have to breathe, remember to eat antioxidants.

Matt Эллен

yeah, but it's usually the bus that does most of the damage

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@aediaλ no, why; omg, why?

aedia λ

19:54

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Too many projects. Not enough time.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@aediaλ Sounds like it isn't your fault.

aedia λ

Well, I feel like my brain has been eaten by this bridal shower I had to help plan and all the junk we didn't think we had to do and then decided needed to happen for it, so I'm not in peak getting-stuff-done-and-concentrating mode this week.

And I really wish I were.

It would have helped. Maybe.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

:S

That's my bridal shower face.

Which might be why I'm still unmarried.

That, and I'm a ruthless chatkillah.

MετάEd

20:11

@MattЭллен I plan to die of ennui.

aedia λ

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Oh I understand.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@MετάEd M is for @MετάEd who died of ennui.

aedia λ

I didn't have a shower thrown by friends or family and I ~~grudgingly accepted~~ tried to be gracious about the shower my work colleagues, predominantly women, insisted on throwing me.

MετάEd

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Hmm. If we're making poetry.

M is for MetaEd who died of bore. C is for Cornbread who died of more.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@aediaλ yeeeesh

MετάEd

20:15

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yes. I love me some Gorey.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I think I've alienated my work colleagues away from such a thing.

@MετάEd okgood.

aedia λ

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 In retrospect - having seen what monstrosities others consider a normal celebration - I feel like I got off easy.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Were there like, games?

aedia λ

It was an excuse for cake with some dollar store decorations, a tiny bit of pictionary or something, and some heartfelt and generous presents that I thought were excessive at the time but egad I've seen so much worse since then.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Fake penises?

aedia λ

20:18

It wasn't like a bachelorette, so no.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

What is the difference?

aedia λ

One is a party for, if not mixed company, at least all ages, focused on heterosexual women, especially focused on the already-married giving you advice on married life and presents that will help you take care of your home and husband. Anatomy references are tame and pretty much limited to sexist jokes about men's roles.

The other is an evening event for peers, generally of drinking age. Here I'm a bit fuzzier because I've never even participated but I've seen plenty of these awful-seeming crowds roaming bars. I gather that the almost-bride is to dress up in a cheap veil and perhaps a crown with a penis on it or other garb that emphasizes her sexuality, and then go around with her friends to bars, drinking and flirting and being annoying.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I can't decide which one is worse.

I suppose if I were nineteen, I might want advice on married life.

aedia λ

My friend and I were trying to buy a game appropriate for - well, an adult game night, for our bachelorette who doesn't even drink much but would play, say, a silly naughty version of pictionary - and we decided we're going to have to make it ourselves because all the actual bachelor and bachelorette party games are horrific.

So I think that one is slightly worse, but that's only my current dilemma talking.

Also the fact that I have repressed my anger at the materialistic sexist crap of showers enough to get through helping host one.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@aediaλ it's okay to break the "traditions" if you don't like them.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

20:32

@aediaλ yay!

aedia λ

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh I know. But my friend is traditional enough that if she was going to have a shower, it needed to be close enough to tradition for her parents and other relatives to recognize it as such.

She doesn't give a whit about a bachelorette party or anything so we'll do that our own way.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

So, I'm growing a moustache.

Not on purpose, mind you.

I should bleach, right? Not those other methods?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 why not? make a bold statement!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

:D

aedia λ

20:52

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I don't know much about hair removal, so I'm probably not the unicorn you want to ask. I'm not sure I even remember how to shave my legs.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

But you're my favorite unicorn.

aedia λ

Aww.

aedia λ

21:07

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 If you just changed methods or stopped taking hormonal birth control, consider if that might be affecting you. And do tell your doctor if you think you have other symptoms that might indicate PCOS. If there's an underlying issue it might be easier to treat that :)

Mitch

@MετάEd I know! He tried way too hard. Kinda desperate. Probably sone girl involved.

MετάEd

@Mitch I blame bacon.^h^h^h^h^h^hBacon.

Robusto

Is unicorn the opposite of icorn? Discuss.

tchrist

Season's greetings, all!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist Summer's Eve?

tchrist

21:12

Aye.

aedia λ

Is it that time of year already?

tchrist

Midsummer’s eve, even.

Not summer’s eve. Midsummer’s eve.

If we shadows have offended,
Know but this and all is mended.
That you have but slumbered here,
While these visions did appear,
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding, but a dream.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@aediaλ I did not, but I will look at that. At first, I thought my upper lip was dirty.

Oh, I had a cystic ovary.

aedia λ

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Too much chocolate ice cream. nods knowingly

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@aediaλ Yes. Ice cream.

"Looks like you blew a seal."

@tchrist I just so happened to have cut up a bunch of strawberries.

Robusto

21:15

@tchrist I'll tell Oberon and Titania.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

> A vacationing penguin is driving his through Arizona when he notices that the oil pressure light is on. He gets out to look and sees oil dripping out of the motor. He drives to the nearest town and stops at the first gas station.

After dropping the car off, the penguin goes for a walk around town. He sees an ice-cream shop and, being a penguin in Arizona, decides that something cold would really hit the spot. He gets a big dish of ice cream and sits down to eat. Having no hands he makes a real mess trying to eat with his flippers. After finishing his ice cream, he goes back to the gas st…

tchrist

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Did you gather them by yon bank where the wild thyme blows, where oxlips and the nodding violet grows?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist Yes, at yon grocery store by yon bank.

tchrist

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Was it quite over-canopied with luscious woodbine, with sweet musk-roses and with eglantine?

aedia λ

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 giggles uncontrollably

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

21:17

@tchrist Yes, quite.

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I love penguin jokes.

@tchrist Surely you mean o'er-canopied?

Johan Larsson

@tchrist Midsommarafton in Sweden tomorrow

tchrist

@Robusto ’Tisn’t what he wrote.

Or perhaps ’twasn’t.

I know a bank whereon the wild thyme blows,
Where oxlips and the nodding violet grows
Quite over-canopied with luscious woodbine,
With sweet musk-roses, and with eglantine:
There sleeps Titania some time of the night,
Lulled in these flowers with dances and delight;
And there the snake throws her enamelled skin,
Weed wide enough to wrap a fairy in. (2.1.249)

I’m nearly depressed that summer is nearly half over.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I shouldn't have fallen in love with you, BUB the space cat.

tchrist

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 The course of true love never did run smooth.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

21:28

Aye. ._.

MετάEd

21:42

@tchrist s/true// (ftfy)

tchrist

LYSANDER
128 How now, my love! why is your cheek so pale?
129 How chance the roses there do fade so fast?

HERMIA
130 Belike for want of rain, which I could well
131 Beteem them from the tempest of my eyes.

LYSANDER
132 Ay me! for aught that I could ever read,
133 Could ever hear by tale or history,
134 The course of true love never did run smooth;
135 But, either it was different in blood,—

HERMIA
136 O cross! too high to be enthrall'd to low.

MετάEd

22:30

@KitFox

There once was a farmer who took a young miss
In back of the barn where he gave her a
Lecture on horses and chickens and eggs,
And told her that she had such beautiful
Manners which suited a girl of her charms,
A girl he could love and could take in his
Washing and ironing, and then, if she did,
They could get married and raise lots of

Sweet Violets, sweeter than the roses,
Covered all over from head to toe,
Covered all over with Sweet Violets.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

22:42

:)

MετάEd

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 And that's just the first verse.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Miss Susie had a steamboat / the steamboat had a bell

Mitch

@Cerberus in Europe or US or anywhere really since late 19thc, a brick house is mostly a brick veneer/facade with concrete (eu) or wood (us) frame.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

she's mighty mighty / just lettin' it all hang out

MετάEd

I was just thinking of this yesterday: Miss Susie had a steamboat. The steamboat had a bell. Miss Susie went to heaven and the steamboat went to hello, operator, give me number nine, and if you disconnect me, I'll paddle your behind the 'frigerator, there lay a piece of glass... and so on, that we used to sing on the bus in grade school and giggle over. — KitFox yesterday

And now we've come full circle!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

22:51

Just in time for the solstice!

MετάEd

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Dang. I didn't make a solstice avatar!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

+1 to you, sir

@MετάEd There's still time!

MετάEd

23:18

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Okay, did I meet my deadline?

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Thank you :-)

Cerberus

@Mitch Only large buildings.

There's no concrete in my parents' house, for example, which is from the twenties.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@MετάEd yes! ooh!

MετάEd

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Dang, this means I have to do three more.

Cerberus

23:47

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A: Does EL&U have any masures to stop stalker's actions?

It appears there is someone who serially down-votes your questions. It certainly looks like that in your reputation history. There is a mechanism that eliminates fraudulent votes, but it is secret, and I have no idea whether it is supposed to pick up bad behaviour like this; it seems like it does...

Johan Larsson

are you being stalked?

Cerberus

If I say "you", then by that I don't mean "I"!

Mitch

@Cerberus what is it made of...plaster and wood?

Johan Larsson

ok

Cerberus

Poor Yoishi is being serially down-voted.

He deserves some support!

@Mitch Mainly bricks.

Mitch

23:50

http://geoguessr.com/?s=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

Cerberus

Wood, metal bars, plaster, and some kind of foam between certain double brick walls.

@Mitch Yay!

Mitch

Try that one...I found special places!

Cerberus

Oh, dear.

MετάEd

@Cerberus What sort of support? Something beyond bringing a serial downvoter to the attention of mods?

Cerberus

@MετάEd Moral support.

Because the attacks also mainly affect his morale.

MετάEd

23:52

Cerberus

@MετάEd facepaw

Is my accent that weird?

MετάEd

@Cerberus Everyone deserves respect, but you do have to have a thick skin on the Internet.

Johan Larsson

@MετάEd poisonous but tasty

Noah

Hi

Cerberus

@MετάEd So what?

MετάEd

23:55

@JohanLarsson Poisonous? Morels?

Cerberus

Just disgusting.

Mitch

This is weird...

meta.english.stackexchange.com/questions/4000/…

Johan Larsson

@MετάEd Confused it with murkla, the second most poisonous mushroom in Sweden. Edible and tasty if you boil it a couple of times but they are now not considered food. In old mushroom books they were considered food.

Mitch

I thought Carlo was learning how to play nice. Why couldn't he just give a link?

MετάEd

@Cerberus It's an oblique way for me to say that I am not signing up to prop up someone's morale because they've attracted a troll. Vote and comment honestly and helpfully as usual, yes. Report trolls to the admins, yes. That's the kind of help I'd want myself: not handholding, just responsible action.

Mitch

23:59

@Cerberus But he really hasn't had that many downvotes. It could be a serial voter but it's not like they're going through a backlog and downvoting every single one of his questions.

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