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RegDwighт

22:03

Document object models?

Matt Эллен

yes. they are trying to assimilate me as we speak

Johan Larsson

turning you into a model?

Matt Эллен

oh, I thought you meant node which would be very clever, because both the borg and the DOM have nodes

RegDwighт

@JohanLarsson and then treating him like an object.

Johan Larsson

I don't do clever

RegDwighт

22:08

I didn't not notice.

Matt Эллен

they only want me for my body

Johan Larsson

@RegDwighт pretty decent friday!

@RegDwighт starlol

RegDwighт

@JohanLarsson All Fridays are pretty decent. I've never had the wrong kind, ever. My worst one was right on the money.

@JohanLarsson Wachowski Starlol.

Johan Larsson

this was close to a star (the second part)

RegDwighт

I got more stars for less.

In fact I hold the record for the shortest starred message ever.

Quoting it in its entirety,

> And.

Can't find it right now because it turns out the chat won't let me search for and.

It appears to think I am trying some SQL injection or something and goes all bonkers.

WendiKidd

22:16

haha

Johan Larsson

'and' is keyword you can use 'why and not' when searching

WendiKidd

silly chat

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт well, you are a über leet hacker

Johan Larsson

I would prefer &&

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен and trolling is a art, eh.

Matt Эллен

22:16

the lowest and best

RegDwighт

Or do you pronounce an umlaut with a glide?

Matt Эллен

I don't know :D

oh, like yuber

no

RegDwighт

Dude. Start knowing. You're like past your midlife crisis or something.

Matt Эллен

I might be. Or maybe I'll live past 65

RegDwighт

Famous last words.

Matt Эллен

22:18

they would be famouser first words

WendiKidd

@MattЭллен JUST MAYBE

Matt Эллен

but I don't know what my firsts words were

Apr 22 at 18:15, by Robusto

@Cerberus We all have one foot in the grave, young Dutch doggy. Tomorrow is promised to no one, as they say.

I have a feeling my first word was, quite predictably, "ma"

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен seven glottal stops in rapid succession.

Matt Эллен

lol

RegDwighт

Jun 26 '12 at 13:13, by RegDwight ΒВB

That would make for a nice epitaph.

Feb 7 '11 at 16:13, by Kosmonaut

ʕʔ

And depending on the font you use people will either find it offensive, or a different kind of offensive.

WendiKidd

22:22

@Cerberus waiiiiit. I just backread from the starred comment about ice cream sandwiches. You've never had a jelly bean??

RegDwighт

Jelly bean time!

►

Johan Larsson

@RegDwighт I did not star

RegDwighт

Thank you for keeping me posted.

Funny, you'd think someone would have come up with this earlier.

David Wallace

What does the other shoe look like?

WendiKidd

@JohanLarsson I did.

@RegDwighт hahaha

RegDwighт

22:26

@DavidWallace excellent question.

Matt Эллен

@DavidWallace dvorak

David Wallace

@MattЭллен lol

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен well that was the answer in the Reddit thread, yes.

David Wallace

Oh, so it wasn't an original question. That makes me sad.

Johan Larsson

maybe it looks like a face?

RegDwighт

22:28

They also say it should be mirrored so the foot print looks right.

@DavidWallace the question was original. The answer was not.

David Wallace

Maybe a mouse.

Matt Эллен

ah, well. I never promised original thought, or thought, even.

David Wallace

But you thought about doing so, right?

Matt Эллен

yes

David Wallace

@WendiKidd Why are they called jelly beans when they contain neither jelly nor beans?

WendiKidd

22:31

@DavidWallace Cause they're shaped like beans and the jelly is like the jell in jell-o; made of gelatin (jel = cute misspelling)

David Wallace

No!

Jellybeans contain no gelatin.

RegDwighт

No jellybeans for jelly teens.

David Wallace

But what would you call a dish made from beans, that was in the shape of a jelly?

RegDwighт

Sieglinde.

Johan Larsson

bruna bönor (I don't like it much)

WendiKidd

22:35

@DavidWallace Jelly doesn't really have a shape, so you wouldn't.

David Wallace

Johan Larsson

in C# on Stack Overflow Chat, 32 secs ago, by Mike F

WendiKidd

@JohanLarsson OH MY GOD. I WANT ONE

@DavidWallace That's jello not jelly xP

David Wallace

@WendiKidd Only in American English.

Matt Эллен

aye

David Wallace

22:48

I used to think that "peanut butter and jelly" sounded like an incredibly odd sort of sandwich, until I realised that it meant jam, not jelly.

Matt Эллен

:D

Johan Larsson

@WendiKidd you can have mine if I ever get one :D

WendiKidd

@DavidWallace Well... I know what you mean but jam and jelly are actually two different things to us.

@JohanLarsson tee hee

David Wallace

@WendiKidd What?

Matt Эллен

what is the difference?

WendiKidd

22:50

finecooking.com/item/37082/jelly-vs-jam-vs-preserves

that link is the difference

Not sure what terms you'd use to differentiate.

Matt Эллен

Jam, jam and jam

WendiKidd

It's like, pulp or no pulp orange juice ;)

hahaha

Matt Эллен

preserve is just a posh word for jam

WendiKidd

agreed there

Matt Эллен

:D

WendiKidd

22:52

but jelly v jam is different where I'm from

pulp or no pulp! ;)

Johan Larsson

clear, smooth & chunky jam?

WendiKidd

noooope. jelly :)

hehe

Matt Эллен

I suppose your jelly is the same consistency as what we call "redcurrant jelly"

David Wallace

Looks a lot like what I thought you'd call jello.

Matt Эллен

but that's the only place I know that we use jelly where jam would pretty much do

WendiKidd

22:53

Hm, not sure. It's not like jello at all though. It really is exactly the same thing as jam except the real-fruit bits aren't in it

MετάEd

No, no, not jelly. You're thinking of that park where primitive families would go for their vacation. Or maybe bears.

WendiKidd

@MετάEd what??

David Wallace

LOL!

MετάEd

@WendiKidd Ah. You haven't played the game before.

WendiKidd

@MετάEd I haven't, no! What game?

Matt Эллен

22:54

redcurrant jelly

WendiKidd

@MattЭллен yup, looks like jelly to me. no squashy fruit pieces

Matt Эллен

we have it with roast lamb

it's the best

RegDwighт

No, not jelly. You're thinking of Kramer's neighbor.

David Wallace

Turkey! Not lamb.

Matt Эллен

Lamb! not turkey

with turkey we have cranberry sauce

RegDwighт

22:55

Russia! Not US.

Matt Эллен

or jelly or whatever

David Wallace

No, not Russia. You're thinking of that time of day when everyone wants to be in their cars.

RegDwighт

No, not cars. You're thinking of snickers.

Matt Эллен

No, no. Not Rush Hour, you're thinking of the sequel.

Johan Larsson

@MattЭллен we also have it with meat, also cassis and rowan

RegDwighт

22:56

@MattЭллен UGH.

Matt Эллен

:D

RegDwighт

I sure did not up until now. Thank you for nothing.

Matt Эллен

lol. any time

RegDwighт

I will make you think of the sequel's sequel.

WendiKidd

@MattЭллен ew! jelly with meat? only time we do something like that is cranberry sauce at thanksgiving and I think that's gross too.

Matt Эллен

22:58

@WendiKidd you ain't lived!

RegDwighт

Meat should only be served with more meat, or not at all.

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WendiKidd

@RegDwighт Nah, meat and potatoes. Staple of the southern diet! ;)

RegDwighт

No, not diet. You're thinking of the Bruce Willis movie.

Matt Эллен

@MετάEd no no, not jelly stone park. You're thinking of that boat all the animals went on

WendiKidd

I don't get the joke

RegDwighт

22:59

That's because it's not.

MετάEd

@WendiKidd The game is "no, no, not." Your turn might take the form: "No, no, not Jellystone. You're thinking of the real park."

WendiKidd

@MετάEd Ahh, I see

MετάEd

@WendiKidd The conceit is that you are correcting the other person but can't quite remember the right word, so you describe it.

RegDwighт

It can be very funny. Well, funnier than a funeral anyway. Some funerals.

David Wallace

No, not conceit, you're umm, no bother, never mind.

MετάEd

23:00

@MattЭллен No, no, not Noah's ark. You're thinking of, what do you call it, that stone thing that they bury the Pharaoh in.

RegDwighт

People I think it's high time someone admitted we suck at this. The Reddit threads are way funnier. And they suck too.

David Wallace

No, not pyramids; you're thinking of that glass thing that makes pretty colours.

MετάEd

@RegDwighт No, no, not Die Hard. You're thinking of that battery company.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт so long as we don't give up!

RegDwighт

@MετάEd yes, yes! That is the one I am thinking of. /thread

MετάEd

23:02

@DavidWallace But it's supposed to sound like Noah's ark.

David Wallace

No, not Carbide; you're thinking of that opera.

MετάEd

@RegDwighт Aw, crap.

@DavidWallace But it's supposed to sound like Die Hard.

Actually, I guess it does, doesn't it.

I've been up notted.

No, no, not Carmen. You're thinking of that red color.

WendiKidd

Carmen does not sound like Crimson. Sorries.

;P

David Wallace

No, not carmine, you're thinking of those things you put in the ground to blow people up.

MετάEd

@DavidWallace No, no, not a prism. You're thinking of slap slap okay you're really not thinking of that. You're thinking of that place they put you when you're bad.

@WendiKidd Carmine?

David Wallace

23:04

Wendi loses.

MετάEd

No, no, not a mine. It's a terrible thing to waste one, though.

Johan Larsson

we all lost

David Wallace

No, not a mind. You're thinking of that old TV series with Denis Waterman.

MετάEd

@DavidWallace Had to google it. I lose.

Matt Эллен

@DavidWallace No no, not minder. You're thinking of that thing you put papers in.

MετάEd

23:07

@MattЭллен Time to buy wine and bring it home for dinner.

My work here is done.

Matt Эллен

have a good wine!

David Wallace

No, not a binder; you're thinking of that number system with 0s and 1s.

WendiKidd

Binder and binary also don't sound alike. pokes the game

Matt Эллен

No, no. Not binary. You're thinking of that bird that dies before miners

David Wallace

No, not canary; you're thinking of that big old Holden from the 1980s.

Matt Эллен

23:11

@WendiKidd they both start with / ˈbʌɪn/

David Wallace

They can't all sound identical, or the game would never go anywhere.

WendiKidd

I'm just teasing. Sorry guys :)

Matt Эллен

@WendiKidd 0_0 no! this aggression will not stand! ;)

WendiKidd

@MattЭллен OH YEAH?

.....I got nothin. ;)

Matt Эллен

me too

not even spelling

WendiKidd

23:16

Hey Carlo!

Carlo_R.

@Wendi, hello! I cannot talk in chat because I cannot talk in English. But I like to hear from you here.

@David, hello. It is a lot of time that I don't see you.

@David, I hope your things go better now.

David Wallace

Thank you Carlo, I appreciate the sentiment.

Carlo_R.

@David, but do you know where is Jasper Loy?

David Wallace

No.

Carlo_R.

@David, is Islam site you follow started?

David Wallace

23:28

Sorry, I don't know what you're asking.

I don't post on the Islam site very often, if that's what you mean.

Oh, you're asking about the Shi'a Islam site that some of us wanted to have? Umm, the administrators decided to cancel the idea completely.

Carlo_R.

@David, oh, sorry. I have seen some question asked by you on new proposal for Islamic people.

David Wallace

Yes, that proposal was deemed unacceptable by the administrators. I don't know why.

Or maybe I misunderstood. I don't want to malign anyone unfairly.

Carlo_R.

Oh, I didn't know of this circumstance.

@David, have you thought to create an account on ELL?

David Wallace

No.

I don't even have an account on ELU.

Carlo_R.

Oh, sorry.

Yes, I know you don't have an account here.

But, if any, I stay better there.

'Stay', hmmm, 'am'!

@David, however, after having read some questions and discussion on Islamic proposal ...

... I had the impression that some users exceede the line.

really, nowdays it is difficult to talk about Islam without evoking a serie of thing.

David Wallace

23:39

I don't find that true at all

Carlo_R.

Yes, I'm sure that if you and I talk about Islam there is no problems.

David Wallace

The proposal was for one minority sect of Islam only. Therein lay the problem.

Carlo_R.

David, what "therein lay" mean?

I'm chatting by my phone and I cannot operate multiasking.

David Wallace

Oh, umm, it's hard to say. I guess I just meant "that was the problem".

Carlo_R.

Oh, yes! I observed that the proposal was for a kind of Islam.

KitFox

23:44

How are you, @David?

Hi @Carlo.

David Wallace

Umm, hello Kit! Long time.

KitFox

It was hardly a cat fight.

Carlo_R.

@kit, hello :)

David Wallace

Hahaha. Sorry for mentioning it.

I don't think "cat fight" were my words though.

Hey, let me apologise for not replying to your last email. You kind of said it all - I had nothing left to say.

KitFox

I'm not perturbed. I had been thinking of writing to you again.

David Wallace

23:46

I'm perturbed though. The least I can do is tell you why. But not here.

KitFox

@Carlo, Jasper is no longer on SE. He deleted his last account a little while ago.

Carlo_R.

@kit, I'm sorry. Thank you. They was a good user.

KitFox

@DavidWallace As you like it. I'm here for the listening.

RegDwighт

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A: "Many books" vs. "many of books"

If the noun phrase following many or most begins with a word such as this, these, those, my/mine, your(s), her(s), their(s), his, or our(s), the preposition of is required to create a partitive construction. If the semantic referent and head of the following noun phrase is itself the first word, ...

KitFox

@Carlo_R. Yes. I am still in touch with via email. I will send him your regards.

RegDwighт

23:48

Someone posts answers fixing my comments.

David Wallace

No, Kit, that's not what I mean. Oh, never mind, I'll explain in my email. It won't be a long one though.

RegDwighт

ONOES

I write not good style.

David Wallace

How are your boys?

RegDwighт

@KitFox wha really?

Carlo_R.

@kit. Yeah, thank you.

KitFox

23:49

@RegDwighт Yeah, you were here when he announced it, I thought.

@DavidWallace Lovely, as always.

RegDwighт

@KitFox perhaps. He kept announcing many things many times a day.

David Wallace

:-) Nice to hear. I have never had any doubt that your children would be lovely. Genetics is truly on their side.

KitFox

True enough.

David Wallace

I have to go. Bye.

KitFox

Haha. Tweened, and I'm on the iPad so I can't edit it.

Bye.

RegDwighт

23:51

He was dead serious about no longer voting after X votes or posting after Y posts, and the figures held for like a day and then it was time for the next vow.

Anyway, I hope he has more time for midnight walks in his favorite mall now.

KitFox

I think he said it was not therapeutic. Too much drama.

Carlo_R.

@david, Bye. I hope to ear you again. And courage, life poses great difficulties, but human being are better.

RegDwighт

@KitFox people who think there's too much drama on the Internet have spent too much time on the Internet to remember how much drama there is in real life.

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Well, math.SE is exempt. They have more drama than all of life.

KitFox

Maybe. I think you've got to have social interaction to have real life drama.

RegDwighт

Point taken, but it doesn't have to be much to be too much.

KitFox

23:55

April 9th. That's when he quit.

You just say that because you hate people.

RegDwighт

No I just hate people because I say that.

KitFox

No, wait. That's me, innit?

RegDwighт

There can be two of us. We are not highlanders. Well not landers anyway.

KitFox

But if I hate people so much, then why do I like you?

Carlo_R.

@kit, because Reg is special!

RegDwighт

23:58

@KitFox well do the math. Obviously I am not people.

Like, DUh

KitFox

I thought as much.

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