The etymological fallacy is a genetic fallacy that holds, erroneously, that the present-day meaning of a word or phrase should necessarily be similar to its historical meaning. This is a linguistic misconception. An argument constitutes an etymological fallacy if it makes a claim about the present meaning of a word based exclusively on its etymology. This does not, however, show that etymology is irrelevant in any way, nor does it attempt to prove such.
A variant of the etymological fallacy involves looking for the "true" meaning of words by delving into their etymologies,
or claiming th...
The etymological fallacy is a genetic fallacy that holds, erroneously, that the present-day meaning of a word or phrase should necessarily be similar to its historical meaning. This is a linguistic misconception. An argument constitutes an etymological fallacy if it makes a claim about the present meaning of a word based exclusively on its etymology. This does not, however, show that etymology is irrelevant in any way, nor does it attempt to prove such.
A variant of the etymological fallacy involves looking for the "true" meaning of words by delving into their etymologies,
or claiming th...
Things are what people call them. That’s all that counts.
>Indian |ˈindēən| adjective 1 of or relating to the indigenous peoples of America. 2 of or relating to India or to the subcontinent comprising India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.
> usage: Indian, meaning ‘native of America before the arrival of Europeans,’ is objected to by many who now favor Native American. There are others (including many members of these ethnic groups), however, who see nothing wrong with Indian or American Indian, which are long-established terms, although the preference where possible is to refer to specific peoples, as Apache, Delaware, and so on.
The etymological fallacy is a genetic fallacy that holds, erroneously, that the present-day meaning of a word or phrase should necessarily be similar to its historical meaning. This is a linguistic misconception. An argument constitutes an etymological fallacy if it makes a claim about the present meaning of a word based exclusively on its etymology. This does not, however, show that etymology is irrelevant in any way, nor does it attempt to prove such.
A variant of the etymological fallacy involves looking for the "true" meaning of words by delving into their etymologies,
or claiming th...
@Noah Wrong is too strong. Different dictionaries order their terms differently. Also, word meanings change over time. Also, a name doesn't impart 'realness'.
@Noah Anyway, the word indian etymologically comes from Sanskrit/Hindi and eventually was erroneously applied to the inhabitants of North/South America
Amerigo Vespucci () (March 9, 1454February 22, 1512) was an Italian explorer, financier, navigator and cartographer who first demonstrated that Brazil and the West Indies did not represent Asia's eastern outskirts as initially conjectured from Columbus' voyages, but instead constituted an entirely separate landmass hitherto unknown to Afro-Eurasians. Colloquially referred to as the New World, this second super continent came to be termed "America", probably deriving its name from the feminized Latin version of Vespucci's first name.
Background
Amerigo Vespucci was born and raised in F...
> At the invitation of king Manuel I of Portugal, Vespucci participated as observer in several voyages that explored the east coast of South America between 1499 and 1502. On the first of these voyages he was aboard the ship that discovered that South America extended much further south than previously thought.
You can’t tell an Italian from a Spaniard, nor a Spaniard from a Portuguese.
See, if that's what you meant (which I would find incredible), you would just have said, "he was Italian", instead of this stupid drama. Be efficient and direct.
> At the invitation of king Manuel I of Portugal, Vespucci participated as observer in several voyages that explored the east coast of South America between 1499 and 1502. On the first of these voyages he was aboard the ship that discovered that South America extended much further south than previously thought.
OK that was difficult. Now for an easier one...on-state or two-state solution? Corridor to the ocean? And what about the settlements? Reparations (for both sides right)?
I think it's because talking is more important that resolving.
because it is a change of topic from the heat of the conversation about 'indian' and 'american', and I was humorously trying to reduce that by changing the subject to something that most people think is all heat.
@tchrist I think if you walked the camel it would be much easier. I mean otherwise ou'd need a trailer and a truck big enough to pull the trailer. by then the eye is going to look very narrow indeed.
@Mitch Sure, exercise is fine. But many people will just eat more after exercise. And you can easily eat 500 Kc in fifteen minutes, which takes e.g. an hour to burn off.
Since we;re still talking about me, I would favor something that doesn't take a lot of thought. also cold turkey (abrupt change) will probably not work with me.
@Mitch Why not? I love cold turkey. Especially with mustard sauce. Or did you mean you preferred a warmer Turkey and you were going to visit Istanbul in summer?
When he was a student at a school in NJ, people asked him what his name was, to which his reply was "Turkey", and then they would say umm, like an Easter Turkey.
I have just lost 2 rep and nothing is showing up on my reputation tab. Has this happened to anyone else? Why has this happened? It's really strange and annoying, since I have spent all day trying to raise it again.
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