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Sang

02:36

Hi All! I just know a little English. Can you help: english.stackexchange.com/questions/105015/…

ctype.h

@Sang You might get more help at English Language Learners.

Sang

@ctype.h Thanks!

I'll move my question to there.

tchrist

@Sang You will not get any more luck there than here. You have to explain to people what you are really asking.

Define “consonant blend” and “vowel blend”. The th digraph is a single phoneme in English (except in words like cathouse), whereas ee is always a single phoneme, and ea has several possible sounds.

So th is not a “consonant blend”, and ee is not a “vowel blend”.

At least, as far as I can see.

Sang

@tchrist I want to find some official informations about consonant blend and vowel blend.

Something like that:examples.yourdictionary.com/examples/…

tchrist

What is a blend?

They’re full of shit. Th is a single phoneme, not two consonant sounds. Ignore that page, it is wrong.

Similarly with sh, which is also a single sound not a “blend”.

Are you just asking for the mapping between clusters of letters and their actual pronunciations?

Sang

02:54

@tchrist Sorry, I'm not so good at English. I'm from Vietnam.

tchrist

Are you trying to figure out which letters can go together in an English word, or are you trying to learn what they sound like?

Sang

I just want to know how many types of combine letters?

Not about sound.

tchrist

Ok.

Sang

Yes. which letters can go together and which NOT?

tchrist

English is not like Japanese where you have an extremely limited set of possible syllables.

Some things are illegal in English, but not as many as you might think.

For example, "think" is ok, but "nkith" is not.

But "inkth" would be ok. It is not a word, though.

Most letters can be next to each other in English.

Sang

02:57

You mean no RULE here.

tchrist

Again, this is not like Japanese.

I know of only one rule for that in English.

Sang

Please guide! Just 1 rule.

tchrist

In standard spelling, the letter Q must always be followed by the letter U, and that must then be followed by another vowel from the set A, E, I, O, Y but not U.

That is the only rule I know about letter combinations.

Did you understand that rule? Is that the sort of thing you are looking for?

Sang

YES, That's what I need.

So I need which book tell about it?

tchrist

But there are no more rules like that.

It is the only one.

Sang

03:01

Oh, Thanks! So I don't need to find more?

tchrist

Some combinations of letters are rarer than others, and some are even non-existent, but that is the only formal rule.

Hm, I know another couple rules, actually.

You never have two instances of X in a row.

And you never have three instances of any letter in a row.

But those are not real rules like the QU rule.

Sang

Only 2 rule?

tchrist

Those are not exactly rules, just things I thought of.

chatkillah

The only word with three sets of double letters is bookkeeper.

tchrist

bottomlessness

chatkillah

03:05

Okay, in a row.

And . . . nice.

Time to shoot cartoon rockets at cartoon dudes while trying to push a little train faster than the other team pushes their little train.

tchrist

possessionlessness

Sang

Thanks in advance! I copy your guide to document.

chatkillah

2 mins ago, by chatkillah

Okay, in a row.

tchrist

Hm, princessship.

chatkillah

Does beekeeper win for most Es?

tchrist

03:10

Naw.

degenerescence
hexamethylenetetramine

stereotelemeter
trockenbeerenauslese
trockenbeerenauslesen

Those all have 6, not 5.

Regular expressions are so wonderful. :)

(e\w*){6}

Robusto

03:32

@tchrist The last two are the sweetest of the sweet. Me, I can get by with an auslese just fine if I want a dessert wine.

But you're right about regular expressions. Here's one of mine that finds all the linds in a stylesheet that don't contain the word "color": /^((?!color).)*$/gim

tchrist

03:49

Ah, you did it right. Lotta people screw that up.

chatkillah

04:19

I wish it would give me my birthday badge already.

chatkillah

04:39

hey @JacobBlue

user19161

@chatkillah Hey K. =)

chatkillah

T and I made some spicy coconut soup tonight.

With tofu.

user19161

@chatkillah Yours is in August!

chatkillah

@JacobBlack I mean yearling

user19161

@chatkillah lol

theUg

05:26

Give this man a medal! I mean, only the score of 2?

2

A: Name of the trade(s) that are involved in making animal-drawn carriages

Wægn-wyrhta is found in Old English, so wainwrights have been around in the language a long time. Wain and wagon tends to be used for those that carry things, carriage more often for those that carry people, and coach generally for those carriages that are covered. There’d be exceptions, but it ...

chatkillah

15:09

keeps chat dead

MετάEd

16:26

Santorum … is also on tap later Friday to raise money for a private school in Troy.

@chatkillah I helped.

chatkillah

@MετάEd shake 'n bake!

@MετάEd I think Santorum is only on tap in San Francisco.

Or Fire Island.

MετάEd

Jan 22 at 0:16, by MετάEd

Jan 12 at 0:10, by MετάEd

Nov 6 '12 at 22:56, by MετάEd

Nov 1 at 18:03, by MετάEd

Oct 5 at 16:14, by MετάEd

Dammit. I killed the room again.

But you do have the advantage of a good nick.

chatkillah

@MετάEd I am become chatkillah.

MετάEd

@chatkillah It's not you, it's the sword.

Cerberus

17:22

Does anyone know why countries have recharging stations for electrical cars, instead of replacing stations? Having to wait for at least half an hour when you're out of energy must suck.

Why not have a universal battery that can be exchanged at any fuel station?

Andrew Leach

Because the batteries are enormous and heavy?

Sudhir

17:50

Hi @MattЭллен

Thanks once again

Robusto

@Cerberus Because someone could bring in a used-up battery and trade it for one that will take a charge?

Sudhir

for correcting my answer.

MετάEd

lotrproject.com/statistics/books

Sudhir

@MattЭллен:there?

@Cerberus: Its not feasible. Like if you say that there should be a ready tank of petrol in petrol pump when you are out of stock of petrol in your car.

They can't afford it.

Cerberus

18:06

@AndrewLeach How heavy? Couldn't some standardised machine switch them?

@Robusto The batteries could be certified with electronic chips?

Andrew Leach

@Cerberus Only if they're easy to get at. And if they're easy to get at they're easy to steal.

Cerberus

@Sudhir Well, why would that be impossible? It's just unnecessary, because replacing the petrol itself is quicker than replacing the tank. An besides, you don't need to take away old petrol: you only need to add new petrol.

@AndrewLeach You could lock them up, just as with petrol?

Modern cars have petrol locks.

Sudhir

Yes you got my point @Cerberus

Andrew Leach

Doesn't stop petrol thefts (but there are more lucrative targets, so they are not common). Batteries are a lucrative target -- or will be, when they are more common to provide a source and a target market.

Sudhir

@Cerberus: You're from US?

So what's Petrol price in US?

Andrew Leach

18:12

@Cerberus And they still have to accessible. It's easier to build them into the floor of the vehicle and add a plug.

Cerberus

@AndrewLeach Why wouldn't locks stop petrol theft? If you have a good lock, surely your petrol doesn't get stolen?

@Sudhir Nope.

Sudhir

Then?

Cerberus

If a car can have a lock, so can the battery?

You could make it so that the key needs to be in the dashboard in order to release the battery, or something.

Surely that can be done.

Andrew Leach

@Cerberus But petrol does get stolen. It's just that the lock makes it difficult enough to prevent it, given the potential return. Batteries would be a very lucrative target, so even a dashboard key would not be a barrier. In fact there is the probability of extensive damage to the car to remove the batteries if it's easy enough for the return.

Sudhir

In my country petrol price is chasing sky. So petrol is very precious. So all keep in their lockers of tank.@Cerberus

@AndrewLeach: Petrol gets stolen.

Andrew Leach

18:16

@Sudhir Jinx. I just said that.

Cerberus

@AndrewLeach Why couldn't you make stealing the battery as hard as stealing the car? I really don't understand why there should be a fundamental problem here, only a practical one that requires some testing and research.

Sudhir

@AndrewLeach: So what's Petrol price in your country?

Cerberus

@Sudhir Petrol is about € 1.70 per litre here or thereabouts.

@AndrewLeach To my knowledge, it only gets stolen when you have no petrol lock.

Sudhir

Its cheap

Its pound?

Cerberus

I see petrol costs € 0.97 in Delhi.

Andrew Leach

18:19

@Sudhir About £1.38 per litre (about €1.60)

Cerberus

So that's 70 % more expensive for us.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus nope. people around here get petrol stolen despite the lock

tchrist

Germany has 15 times the gas tax that America has. That’ll teach ’em.

Cerberus

Then again, incomes are higher here as well.

Andrew Leach

@Cerberus No: tanks get drilled. Or did, before the risk outweighed the return.

tchrist

18:20

Gas is like three bucks a gallon, climbing towards four of late.

Matt Эллен

@Sudhir you're welcome

Cerberus

@MattЭллен How odd. I have never ever heard of that happening to anyone. Oh, well.

tchrist

And Germans make 15 times what Americans make. It is only fair.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus people drill through. there was a spate of it on my street. the thieves had gone so far as to figure out the timings of the police patrols

Cerberus

@AndrewLeach All right, but anyway, there are ways to make it as hard for a thief to steal a battery as it is to steal a car.

Sudhir

18:21

But I think 1 Euro cost you very less

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Outrageous.

Matt Эллен

indeed

Andrew Leach

@Cerberus They would just steal the car then.

tchrist

Another way that Germans keep people off the highway is not just by making gas punitively expensive, but making driving a capital crime: just remove all speed limits, and watch ’em squish.

theUg

Petrol tax in America ridiculous. It’s not percent based, but arbitrary (like 8 cents a gallon), that was instituted back in the 70s without any adjustment for inflation.

And germans get far better public transportation in return for higher taxes.

tchrist

18:22

It began at a penny a gallon, which is reasonable.

Cerberus

@AndrewLeach But they already do that, so there is no loss there.

Andrew Leach

@Cerberus But to make a car less easy to steal is comparatively straightforward.

The batteries are big and heavy, and need to be built into the car.

Sudhir

@AndrewLeach:: 1.60 is very cheap.

I think for you.

theUg

Why cannot we just drive cars with industrial diesel engines and air or spring starters, so we won’t need a battery at all?

tchrist

Germans live in a dangerously over-populated part of the earth. In return for living in population densities that drive rats to murder each other, the Germans get public transportation. “How clever!” quoth the Germans. “What a kluge!” quip the Americans.

Sudhir

18:24

as in my country exchange rate makes it very costly,

Matt Эллен

@theUg because that doesn't reduce CO2 emission at all

theUg

4

Q: Why no alternate (hand-cranked, spring-loaded) starter for a car?

A dead battery is a common and serious problem. At a minimum it takes time to jump-start the car. But oftentimes a second car is unavailable, or there's no jumper cables, or a serial killer is chasing you and pounding on your window. So why don't vehicles come with some alternate way of starti...

starter

tchrist

I hate jumping cars.

Matt Эллен

I can never quite get the height

theUg

@MattЭллен Moot point. we talk about battery theft, not sustainability.

Sudhir

18:25

@Cerberus:0.96 when converts in to INR it gets costly,

tchrist

Just look what it did for Evel Kneivel.

Matt Эллен

@theUg we're talking about battery powered cars. why have them if not for reduction in CO2 emission? I said nothing about sustainability

Cerberus

@AndrewLeach Why do they need to be built into the car?

Sudhir

@Cerberus:What you say?

Cerberus

?

tchrist

18:26

@MattЭллен You can tell you’re playing with an electric car because it has a sustain pedal.

Matt Эллен

:D

theUg

@MattЭллен Well, then, I ride a motorcycle and get 2.7 l/100 km (85+ m per Am. gallon.)

It’s not very far from plug-in electrics, really.

Andrew Leach

@Cerberus Because if they are not then weight distribution gets problematic.

Sudhir

@Cerberus: costly

Cerberus

$9.89....Turkey.........................#7
$9.63....Norway......................#51
$9.09....Netherlands...............#40
$8.87....Italy............................#31
$8.82....Portugal.....................#17
$8.62....Greece.......................#21
$8.50....Sweden......................#46
$8.41....Belgium.....................#41
$8.38....France.......................#37
$8.22....Denmark...................#48
$8.15....Hong Kong.................#36
$8.12....Finland.......................#44
$8.06....United Kingdom.........#39

Presumably February 2013.

theUg

18:29

@Cerberus What be that? Per gallon?

Matt Эллен

what are the #N?

number of cars per capita?

tchrist

@theUg $ units '2.7 liters/100 kilometers' 'gallons/miles' => 87.116512

Cerberus

@AndrewLeach I'm sure it can be done. People would be willing to pay more for not having to wait several hours a day in their car!

tchrist

Most people like the number the other way around.

Cerberus

Prices are per gallon.

> The Bloomberg Gas Price Ranking sorts 60 countries by average retail price and by "pain at the pump," which measures the percentage of average daily income needed to buy a gallon of fuel. This is the # ranking.

theUg

18:29

@tchrist I rounded. Just ballpark, off of my fuelly data

tchrist

units '100 kilometers / 2.7 liters' => '87.116512 miles/gallon'

Sudhir

@Cerberus:but we are calculating in INR so its gets augmented to 56 times of orginal value.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus I see, thanks

theUg

@tchrist 87.11 is right, given my 85+ qualification. ;)

tchrist

macbook# units '100 kilometers / 2.7 liters' 'miles/brgallon'
	* 104.62278
	/ 0.0095581476

Siwwy impewials.

Sudhir

18:32

@MattЭллен: I want to know about moderators role in this site?

tchrist

And nauty ones:

macbook# units '100 kilometers / 2.7 liters' 'nmiles/brgallon'
	* 90.914713
	/ 0.01099932

Cerberus

Germans are pussies. We pay 13 % more for our petrol.

theUg

Fuelly says, I got 86, so 2.7 is really approximation.

fuelly.com/driver/theug/tu250x

Matt Эллен

@Sudhir I think there is a blog article about it...

tchrist

I liked it better the other way.

Shouldn’t an article about standards be a bog article?

Matt Эллен

18:33

Blog - Stack Exchange: A Theory of Moderation

Jeff Atwood on May 17, 2009

We believe deeply in community moderation. That’s why we appoint Pro Tempore Moderators and, ideally, democratically elected community moderators for every site in our network. But what do community moderators do? The short answer is, as little as possible!

From the very first version of Stack Overflow faq way back in mid-2008, our goal has always been to give power back to the community:

Stack Overflow is run by you! If you want to help us run Stack Overflow, you’ll need reputation first. Reputation is a (very) rough measurement of how much the Stack Overflow community trusts you. R …

bbl

tchrist

And I thought you were talking about fool standards.

Sudhir

Who is main controller of this site?

tchrist

@MattЭллен Isn’t “bbl” a UK measurement unit? I think it is.

Sudhir

@MattЭллен:Are these guys getting paid for this?

theUg

@tchrist Having fun with numbers, I see. I wonder what my boat motor gets per NM (4 HP Mercury/Tohatsu).

tchrist

18:35

9 dekamiles per galleon. That’s a respectable rate.

theUg

I bet gallEon full of petrol will last centuries

tchrist

@theUg With or without a galleon to go with it?

Andrew Leach

@tchrist bbl=barrel, for some reason.

theUg

@tchrist I think I would have to have a galleon parked somewhere, just to store all those dynosauri.

Sudhir

@MattЭллен:tell

tchrist

18:37

@AndrewLeach I know. I want to know why. Is it a plural or something?

theUg

dinosauri?

tchrist

Terrible.

theUg

Now, changing gears. This is epic.

►

Some German students did this, incidentally.

Andrew Leach

@tchrist The "b" may have been doubled originally to indicate the plural (1 bl, 2 bbl), or possibly it was doubled to eliminate any confusion with bl as a symbol for the bale. Some sources assert that "bbl" originated as a symbol for "blue barrels" delivered by Standard Oil in its early days.

Barrel (unit)

A barrel is one of several units of volume, with dry barrels, fluid barrels (UK beer barrel, US beer barrel), oil barrel, etc. The volume of some barrel units is double others, with various volumes in the range of about , due to historical reasons. Since medieval times the measure barrel has been used with different meanings around Europe, from about 100 litres to above 1000 in special cases. The name comes from medieval French baril. In most countries, its use is mainly obsolete, superseded by SI units. Thus the meaning of corresponding words in other languages normally refers to a physi...

Sudhir

bye

theUg

18:39

@AndrewLeach Beer barrel then?

tchrist

    macbook# units bbl gallon
    	* 42
    	/ 0.023809524
    macbook# units bbl liters
    	* 158.98729
    	/ 0.0062898108
    macbook# units bbl brgallon
	* 34.972244
	/ 0.028594104

Monica

Hello

theUg

tjesus, where do you get all these numbers?

tchrist

@theUg No, oil barrel, by definition.

macbook# units barrel oilbarrel
	* 1
	/ 1

Monica

Could anyone help me answer this question?

tchrist

18:41

@AndrewLeach Thanks.

theUg

Are you in MacOS terminal? Is there same for linux?

tchrist

@theUg Certs.

Andrew Leach

@Monica Just interrupt.

tchrist

^C

theUg

But be mindful, that interrupting is rude.

Monica

18:42

An apostrophe or an 's' is added to names or surnames that end with 's'

tchrist

Oh noze!

Monica

but do you use either of them with the inanimate objects ending in 's'?

theUg

Well, now I be indignant for I’ve been interrupted. I do declare!

Andrew Leach

@Monica Examples, please.

tchrist

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Q: Which singular names ending in “s” form possessives with only a bare apostrophe?

Many questions already ask about this topic (What is the correct possessive for nouns ending in s? , Adding apostrophe-s to a singular noun already ending in “s”, etc.) and their answers vary, but they always give exceptions to the apostrophe-s rule, for example: 6.24 The general rule for t...

possessive names

Monica

18:44

dress's colour

virus's name

tchrist

Apostrophate those.

theUg

32

Q: When did it become correct to add an 's' to a singular possessive already ending in 's'?

According to my grammar book, but at variance to the answer to this question, the correct singular possessive if a word ends in 's' is: James's car The grammar book allows exceptions for historical nouns, so the examples in the answer to the above-linked question would pass muster. However...

history possessive apostrophe

tchrist

With esses.

Andrew Leach

@Monica Yes. They're fine.

Monica

kiss's importance

tchrist

18:45

18 links to the FAQ.

@Monica Always always always always always.

theUg

@AndrewLeach How do you distinguish virus’s and viruses in oral speech, then?

Andrew Leach

@tchrist oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/apostrophize

tchrist

@theUg As opposed to non-oral speech?

And to what purpose?

Andrew Leach

@theUg Context.

Monica

so even with inanimate objects ending with s you use either an apostrophe or 's

theUg

18:46

@tchrist Indeed, 9. p.m. in the evening.

Monica

just like with proper nouns

tchrist

@Monica Always add an s in the singular.

Andrew Leach

Yes. virus's structure; viruses' structure.

tchrist

There is no distinct rule for proper nouns vs improper ones.

theUg

Virusi?

tchrist

18:47

@theUg Don’t make me FAQ you again.

2

A: Strunk and White says "Charles's" is correct -- is this still the case?

The rule is very simple, and it has no exceptions: that you add an s if you say the s, which is almost always. That said, because we don’t say the extra s when speaking certain limited phrases like these following examples, they therefore necessarily take no added s in spelling: that species’...

Monica

I was confused.... with proper nouns either can be used but with lifeless things...

tchrist

It is the simplest rule in the world. How the FAQ people keep getting it wrong speaks to the pessimal quality of primary education these days.

@Monica No, that is wrong.

Monica

wrong?

tchrist

Please read:

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A: Which singular names ending in “s” form possessives with only a bare apostrophe?

The most useful rule — and the most general and the easiest to remember — is simply that you add ’s whenever you actually say an extra /əz/ at the end when forming the possessive, compared with how you say the non-possessive version. Let your own ear be your guide. That’s all there is to it. No ...

Yes, wrong.

Andrew Leach

@theUg Viruses.

tchrist

18:49

There is no rule that applies to proper nouns that does not apply to common ones, nor vice versa.

Monica

learnenglish.de/grammar/casepossgen.htm I read about it on this site

tchrist

People are just uneducated nincompompoopies.

Monica

and decided to ask you here

tchrist

@Monica What, you expect Germans to know English orthographic conventions and their underlying unmad methods? What a Grimm idea!

Andrew Leach

@Monica Unfortunately some sites invent "rules" to make teaching a particular point easy, and then students find that the rule doesn't apply to all circumstances.

Monica

18:52

So there is no rule? Either an apostrophe or 's can be used with words that end with 's'

tchrist

@Monica That is not the way it works.

The real rule is that no word gets more than one "uhz" inflection on the end. You can have possessive, or plural, but not both, as they cancel.

@Monica PLEASE read my answer.

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A: Which singular names ending in “s” form possessives with only a bare apostrophe?

The most useful rule — and the most general and the easiest to remember — is simply that you add ’s whenever you actually say an extra /əz/ at the end when forming the possessive, compared with how you say the non-possessive version. Let your own ear be your guide. That’s all there is to it. No ...

theUg

@AndrewLeach I see, in Latin it would be vīra

Monica

I am reading

tchrist

Also this one, please.

3

A: Strunk and White says "Charles's" is correct -- is this still the case?

The rule is very simple, and it has no exceptions: that you add an s if you say the s, which is almost always. That said, because we don’t say the extra s when speaking certain limited phrases like these following examples, they therefore necessarily take no added s in spelling: that species’...

@theUg Unclear.

I have a FAQ on this.

Plural form of words ending in -us

Most English words ending in -us, particularly those derived from Latin, replace the -us suffix with -i to form plurals. This is irregular, however: some words that end in -us do not pluralize with -i. Sometimes this is because they are not Latin words, and sometimes due to habit (e.g. campus, plural campuses, anus, plural anuses, are both Latin words that do not pluralize with -i). Conversely, some non-Latin words ending in -us or Latin words that would not have pluralized with -i in Latin are given an -i ending in English. Sometimes this plural becomes widely accepted (e.g. cactus, ubiqui...

Usage of virii within Internet communities has met with some resistance, most notably by Tom Christiansen, a figure in the Perl community, who researched the issue and wrote what eventually became referred to in various online discussions as the authoritative essay on the subject,[7] favoring viruses instead of virii.
The impetus of this discussion was the potential irony that the use of virii could be construed as a claim of superior knowledge of language when in fact more detailed research finds the naive viruses is actually more appropriate. (See hypercorrection.)

Monica

The most useful rule — and the most general and the easiest to remember — is simply that you add ’s whenever you actually say an extra /əz/ at the end ..

tchrist

18:55

“What is the plural of virus?”

Monica

please could you give me an example?

tchrist

@Monica Yes, ma’am.

Monica

Great rule, thanks

theUg

@AndrewLeach Not even necessarily sites. In Russian public schools they teach 6 cases, with some weird things labelled as exceptions. but in truth, those exceptions are things like Locative case and others. They just simplifyid instruction, for good or bad.

Andrew Leach

A regular plural would be viri, not virii.

tchrist

18:57

@AndrewLeach No, viri is the plural of vir, not of virus. Virus is a neuter, and may not even be second declension.

Andrew Leach

@theUg Or took their cue from other languages like Latin or German (or even Russian; I don't speak Russian)

tchrist

> Writers who, searching for a fancy plural to virus, incorrectly write *viri are doubtless blindly applying an overreaching -us => -i rule. This mis-inflects many words. For example, status and hiatus only change the length of the final vowel; genus goes to genera; corpus goes to corpora. Others are even worse if this rule is mis-applied, like syllabus, caucus, octopus, mandamus, and rebus.

theUg

@tchrist That is what I was reading. I see now, it’s Neo-Latin they talk about, and that plural of virus was never recorded.

Andrew Leach

Hmm. My Latin is rustier than I thought.

Back to the bookcase

tchrist

> The crucial problem here is that, classically speaking, there appears to be no recorded use of virus in the plural. It was a 2nd declension noun ending in -us, which is rather common, but it was also a neuter, which is rather rare.

theUg

18:58

@tchrist Cactus is not even Latin, I had found out, but I like cacti.

tchrist

> Another theory holds that virus, if it was a 2nd declension neuter, must go to *vira in the plural as do its -um neuter brethren in the 2nd declension. However, that assumes that it works like a -um form, not as a -us form does. And it really seems to do neither. If it were a -us form (again, as a 2nd declension nominative), then its vocative would have to be *vire; but it's really only virus.

> So what we have here is something of a mixed or invariant declension. Trying to find a plural for something that didn't take a plural (possibly because it was not a count but a mass noun), or at least, one for which no plural is classically attested, is a fruitless endeavour. Best to stick with English and use viruses.

theUg

@tchrist As I said, I just read it. :)

MετάEd

@tchrist Non-oral speech:

Monica

is it better to use 'of' inanimate objects? Ex.,The room's door or the door of the room.

MετάEd

American Sign Language

American Sign Language (ASL) is the predominant sign language of deaf communities in the United States and English-speaking parts of Canada. Besides North America, dialects of ASL and ASL-based creoles are used in many countries around the world, including much of West Africa and parts of Southeast Asia. ASL is also widely learned as a second language, serving as a lingua franca. ASL is most closely related to French Sign Language (FSL), and might be considered an FSL-based creole. Despite the fact that the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia have English as a common oral l...

tchrist

18:59

@Monica No, it sounds non-native-speakerish to do so.

theUg

@MετάEd Zing. good point. :)

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