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12:02 AM
@MετάEd each of the brass balls at Royals stadium is six feet across.
Brass-colored, that is.
 
@simchona Have you read Prudie yet? I love what she says about a letter-writer's girlfriend:
> I’ve only known your girlfriend for one paragraph, but I’m already exhausted by her.
And she is right.
 
user19161
I have a question regarding edits. If a low rep user submits one for approval and we click improve, will the edit history show both him and us?
 
user19161
Hey @chatkillah ping ping!
 
I have no idea!
 
user19161
@Cerberus Thanks, I know he will still get +2 from it though.
 
12:10 AM
Oh OK.
If I were SE, I would make it show two separate edits, one by the user, and the next one by your, the improver.
 
user19161
Yeah I think that seems to be the case already, but never mind.
 
user19161
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Q: One word to sum up or describe "a bad boy"

user38041I'm looking for a word that sums up or describes "a bad boy". A young guy who is confident, aggressive in personality, punky, rebellious, a bit rough around the edges, a bit badass. Preferably a word that is not commonly used or includes profanity.

 
user19161
This is pretty weird.
 
user19161
What's wrong with being confident? Is that bad?
 
user19161
12:13 AM
Someone who is punky is a punk, someone who is rebellious is a rebel, QED.
 
@JacobBlack I looked at one I edited and approved. The suggested edit shows up as an edit; my edit of the edit shows up as a separate edit.
@Cerberus That seems to be exactly what they do.
 
Great minds things alike?
 
user19161
@MετάEd Ah but did you do the edit after you approved, or did you click "improve"?
 
Then again, SE are not exactly great.
 
@JacobBlack I clicked "improve". It's listed in my "review edit" history.
 
user19161
12:15 AM
@MετάEd Aha, thanks. I am just doing some detective work on the other site...
 
I could check a few more.
 
user19161
@MετάEd Nah, don't waste your time.
 
If you have the XP to look at the edit review queue, you should just check a few that are marked "Edit" rather than "Approve".
 
> As a result of an ongoing dispute between Google (YouTube's parent company) and GEMA, the primary German performance rights organization, a number of Russian YouTube videos have been blocked from within Germany. The reason? These videos contain background music playing from a Russian car radio.
> This is just the latest example of a ridiculous situation that has developed in Germany. According to a recent study by OpenDataCity, more than 60 percent of the top 1,000 YouTube videos are unavailable in Germany because Google assumes the music rights might be owned by GEMA.
 
@JacobBlack hello!
I wonder how many babies will be born in this town roughly nine months from today.
 
12:28 AM
Haha lots!
 
user19161
@chatkillah Why?
 
4 hours ago, by chatkillah
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user19161
@chatkillah So people make babies when it snows? lol
 
@JacobBlack you bet they do. I think August and September have the highest birth rate.
 
user19161
After doing some detective work on another site, I conclude that someone just told me a lie.
 
user19161
12:32 AM
@chatkillah Yeah, that's when we were born. =)
 
@JacobBlack :D
 
user19161
@chatkillah So did you celebrate V day with Tim?
 
@JacobBlack yes. He had school that night, though
BBL. Grocery store. Maybe.
 
@Cerberus Yup! I had a similar convo with friends yesterday
 
Oh haha.
 
12:42 AM
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A: Are there differences in the accent of NY and California English?

aminyeah i think there is difference between various accents in the US. specially from east to west. but there is something that should be said, we mostly watch movies that have been made in cities that are located in west of THE US and it makes us so familiar with this accent. thank you

 
@JacobBlack ISTR this is traditionally true ... even more so in the past when the nights were long and dark and you didn't need to sleep all that time ...
 
@MετάEd No flirting in this chat.
 
user19161
@tchrist Both of us are straight dude.
 
@JacobBlack You need either a comma or an s
 
@JacobBlack Non setiqueer
 
12:44 AM
@JacobBlack As a matter of fact, yes ... but how would you know?
 
@MετάEd Salty ducks.
 
user19161
@MετάEd I have ESP.
 
longjmp( jmpbufs[ int( rand() * sizeof(jmpbufs) ) ], int( rand() * getpid() ) );
 
1:05 AM
Amazing fast Beethoven.
Now back to our regularly scheduled laundry.
 
@aediaλ "Laundry", I see.
45 mins ago, by chatkillah
I wonder how many babies will be born in this town roughly nine months from today.
 
@aediaλ Get “Beethoven or Bust”.
Beethoven or Bust, Music of Beethoven as realized by Don Dorsey on digital and other authentic period synthesizers. Track listing # "Rondo a Capriccio in G major Op. 129 'Rage Over a Lost Penny'" #; Mixed Bagatelles # "No. 6, in G major; Andante-Allegretto" #* from Eleven Bagatelles, Op. 119 # "No. 2, in G minor; Allegro" #* from Six Bagatelles, Op. 126 # "No. 7, in A-Flat major; Presto" #* from Seven Bagatelles, Op. 33 #; Sonata No. 14 in C-sharp minor, Op. 27, No. 2 "Moonlight" # "I. Adagio sostenuto" # "II. Allegretto" # "III. Presto agitato" # Various Variations (from 15 "Eroica" ...
The 3rd movement of the Moonlight is wacked, too. Molto agitato in its prestissimo.
 
pops head in Hello, all. :)
 
@WendiKidd Hi!
 
1:20 AM
@simchona Hi! waves I'm listening to the linked beethoven song; it's pretty :)
 
That’s the Don Dorsey version.
A bit spazzy.
If that’s too modern for you, try this instead:
 
@tchrist Haha I love the electronic sound of that first one!
 
OMG look who it is!
hides
If I was secretly being naughty in this room, please don't spank me.
 
@Cerberus LOL! simchona said I might find you here ;)
 
hides in sack
 
1:29 AM
Haha. Why hide from me? What did I do? ;)
 
I don't know.
 
:)
 
I mean, I didn't do it!!
Please!
I won't do it again, I promise.
 
Methinks the Cerberus doth protest too much.
 
Noooo...
 
1:30 AM
sacks Cerb
 
Haha. See, your punishment has arrived!
 
But I needed the job!
 
You crack me up : D
 
peeks out of sack
 
Hahaha
 
1:31 AM
slides back into sack
 
pokes sack with stick You all right in there?
 
sends him back into the sachsenherbe
 
By the way, I am not a city, and I am poor, so stop trying to sack me already!
 
Mood music:
 
Those fleas don't technically count as a population.
Nor do their burrows count as hice.
What kind of a weird instrument is that!?
 
1:34 AM
I was thinking more of a football sack, you see.
 
It sounds... shudders electronic.
A football sack? But I don't know anything about football!
 
Oh, don't say that! Electronic music can be good. Click the third song up that tchrist posted, I liked it
 
No, but their boroughs count as hamlets.
 
That's foul play.
 
A step up from fowl play, though.
 
1:36 AM
pops popcorn for the chickflick
 
Yeah, chicks deserve respect and dignity.
Not grabbing and poking their you-know-whats.
 
@tchrist Was that Fugue song you posted in Fantasia, do you know? It sounds familiar and that's where I think I might have heard it?
 
Um. Yeah.
 
Haha. I know little of classical music, sorry, but watched Fantasia a lot as a kid
 
BWV 565.
That isn’t Classical music.
 
1:38 AM
No?
 
It’s Baroque.
 
Ah, so I know less than I thought then ;)
Still pretty though!
 
Medieval. Renaissance. Baroque. Classical. Romantic. Impressionist.
In that order.
Then you get into random oscillations of neo-this and neo-that.
 
Funny that people who don't know about music just lump it all in the "Classical" category. Wonder why that is? At any rate, it's all very pretty. I should click the 'related' links on Youtube and listen to it more often :)
 
The Classical period was a reaction against the excesses of the Baroque, just as the Romantic period was a reaction against the excessive straitlacèdness of the Classical.
It’s all form the common practice era. That’s what non-musicians are calling “classical”. You might call it “serious” music, I suppose.
 
1:42 AM
This is a bit misleading.
 
It's all very pretty, though!
@Cerberus How so?
 
It is rather that classical has two different meanings.
 
An author I esteem has a world in which the two different types of music are “compositional” vs “social”.
Serious vs popular, if you would.
 
@tchrist That's actually a really interesting way of looking at it. Makes a lot of sense when you think about it
 
It can mean either all "sophisticated", cultured music in the great European tradition, or the sub-period within the former between ca. 1700 and 1800.
 
1:43 AM
@Cerberus Yes, which is what I think we non-music people tend to consider it as.
 
Yeah.
But that definition is widely used by musicians too—just not when contrasting periods within the aforementioned larger tradition.
When you say "classical music" in no particular context, you mean the larger tradition.
 
Makes sense to me! Learn new stuff every day :)
 
When you contrast it with Baroque, you use its narrower meaning.
Yay!
 
Yupyup. I think I've listened to that song about five times now on a loop, LOL
I also think @simchona deserted us!
 
Oh, dear.
 
1:46 AM
 
@tchrist What book is that from?? I kind of want to read it now.
 
Have you read Dumas?
 
I haven't, no.
I started the Count of Monte Cristo once when I was younger but never got very far, I forget why
 
Ah. It is from a retelling of the Musketeers tale, complete with a trilogy of three tales the third of which is published in three volumes, in a fantasy (well, scifi of the might-as-well-be-magic) world. Each book is represented, and the language is exquisite and witty to the point of falling on the floor laughing your ass off.
It’s Steven Brust’s Khaavren Romances.
 
That sounds like a great read! I'll have to check it out, thanks :)
 
1:50 AM
Although the citation above is actually from Tiassa.
The Dumas stuff starts with Phoenix Guards.
There are two story lines that converge in Tiassa. The other line is the Taltos line, which begins in Jhereg.
 
I'll find a copy of the first book and let you know once I've read it :)
Oh, it's two series together then?
 
Read either Jhereg or Phoenix Guards and see if you like them.
 
All right, will do :)
 
Yes, each is a separate series. There are a few overlapping characters. In Tiassa, it all converges.
But you should never read it first.
 
Oh, I wouldn't! That's like reading the last page before the book ;)
 
1:52 AM
All the Vlad Taltos books have exactly 17 chapters.
All the Khaavren books are two "books", each of 17 chapters, so 34 each.
 
Which do you like better?
 
The Vlad books are shorter. They are available in omnibus versions, so 2 or 3 books under one cover.
Hm.
At first I liked the Vlad books better. I might still. The Khaavren stuff grows on you. It is set at an early time full of cavaliers and courtiers.
Swashbuckling.
 
Nice! : D
 
Whereas Vlad is part of a crime syndicate, where he meets his wife, and they eventually get out of it. But it is funny as hell.
 
I could use some funny right now, so I suppose I'll start with that :)
 
1:55 AM
Yes, start with Jhereg. Highly recommended.
 
All right, will do! :)
 
Also very clever.
A fun, easy, and engaging read.
And short: only 17 chapters in each book.
 
Amazon amuses me very much. These are the prices it lists for the first version of Jhereg that shows up on search:
$99.93 new (8 offers) $0.01 used (70 offers) $5.66 collectible (1 offer)
.....right, because that makes perfect sense.
 
Well....
It was originally published in the late 80s, so that first printing is hard to come by.
 
In which case the $99 price makes sense, but the $0.01 certainly doesn't ;)
 
1:58 AM
You might look at the omnibus version, published as The Book of Jhereg, which is Jhereg, Yendi, and one other; Teckla, perhaps.
The omnibus edition is still in print.
They got tired of publishing such “short” books.
It’s nice to see you looking for something in print.
 
$12 for 3 books? Sold ;)
 
I have a pair of friends whom I gave the entire collection to, in the original printings, as a wedding present.
 
Oh, that's a great gift!
 
Three are like 19 Vlad books, and 5*2 + 1 Khaavren books.
But the 19th Vlad book and the 11th Khaavren book are the same book, Tiassa.
 
I like to stop by half priced books every once in a while and check for the earlier printings of Isaac Asmiov's books. For some reason it's more fun for me to read them that way than to buy the newer printings. I haven't read all his works yet because I figure I have time to spread them out, and finding them like that is an adventure :)
Well I'll definitely start with the first 3 Vlad ones and go from there :)
 
2:01 AM
Yes, one of the two married people said how much more convenient the little individual books were from the original printing.
 
Yes, definitely!
Where are you hiding, @Cerberus? ;P
 
Steven Karl Zoltán Brust (born November 23, 1955) is an American fantasy and science fiction author of Hungarian descent. He was a member of the writers' group The Scribblies, which included Emma Bull, Pamela Dean, Will Shetterly, Nate Bucklin, Kara Dalkey, and Patricia Wrede; he also belongs to the Pre-Joycean Fellowship. He is best known for his novels about the assassin Vlad Taltos. His novels have been translated into German, Russian, Polish, Dutch, Czech, French, Spanish, Hebrew and Bulgarian. Most of his short stories are set in shared universes. These include Emma Bull's and ...
He actually writes very nice novels with his friends sometimes, too, which almost nobody manages.
 
Oh, the series isn't complete yet? That's even more to look forward to in that case!
 
in sack
 
He’s in the middle of Hawk, which is um, the 14th Vlad book. There shall be 17.
 
2:05 AM
@Cerberus Oh, come on now. You can't hide in there forever! Come out and talk to us, silly.
 
Oh, 19 maybe.
 
@tchrist 19 says wikipedia, at any rate!!
 
Cerb stays up later than I do, and I’m 8 timezones west of him.
 
Haha, that's a feat!
Dost thou ever sleep, Cerberus?
 
There are 17 Great Houses. Plus one book for Vlad himself (Taltos) and one for the Final Contract.
 
2:06 AM
pretends to be sleeping inside sack
 
Brust is something of a stylist. He tries very different things. And pretty much succeeds.
 
@Cerberus pokes sack with pointy stick Come out come out wherever you are.....
 
He wrote an epistolary novel with Emma Bull called Freedom and Necessity.
Stuff like that.
 
@tchrist I'm envious of that. I've always wanted to be a writer but never managed to finish a novel.
 
And his books are full of Easter Eggs.
 
2:07 AM
Ha, nice!
 
He used to be a programmer, and was part of the Dave Arneson-derived D&D crowd from the Twin Cities.
Roger Zelazny is one of his heroes. But then, isn’t he everyone’s?
 
Hey! That hurts,
 
@Cerberus Well if you'd just wake up I wouldn't have to poke you with a stick now would I? ;)
@tchrist A writer and a programmer! A man after my own heart ;)
 
Aaaagh!
 
See, awake now. Much better. Speak, mortal!
 
2:12 AM
Uh oh.
 
Hm?
 
I fear you have just made a Titanic error.
2
 
How so?
 
Wraaaahhh!
 
@.@
 
2:13 AM
How dare you accuse me of mortality!?
2
 
Ummmmm
 
stamps paw
 
Sorry?
 
Okay.
 
Haha. Glad that's all settled then ;)
 
2:13 AM
He’s really Typhoid Larry, you know.
 
grumbles for a few more minutes, then forgets
 
Haha, of course he is.
 
I wouldn’t chidya..
 
@Cerberus I humbly beg your forgiveness, I had no idea you were immortal. I apologize for implying otherwise (but retain the right to poke you with sticks whenever I so choose)
 
I still think he goes boozing with Orcus, though.
 
2:15 AM
Haha
 
If you really want to rile him, all you have to do is post Herc pr0n.
 
LOL.
 
It's OK. I have already forgotten the whole incident.
I mean, what incident?
 
Not part elephant, then?
 
2:22 AM
 
Support PPP, the organisation that is fighting for Americans to protect themselves against bully lawsuits.
The video explains it. It's quite important.
The appearance of the guy presenting it doesn't hurt either!
 
I love looking through Cerb’s family albums.
 
Is that mommy?
 
Aye.
 
LOL!!!!
 
2:27 AM
Or at least someone named after mommy.
 
Good thing it’s mommy; if she had been your daddy, he’d’ve had a four-pronged penis.
 
Uhh.
 
throws sack back on Cerberus
 
> Male echidnas have a four-headed penis. During mating, the heads on one side "shut down" and do not grow in size; the other two are used to release semen into the female's two-branched reproductive tract. The heads used are swapped each time the mammal copulates.
 
eats sack
 
2:28 AM
@Cerberus ICK!
 
That's.....really odd and kind of gross
Yeah LOL
 
Prudes.
 
No, that just does not sound like fun at all
 
But Cerb, as we all know, is shy one head.
 
@Cerberus watches
 
2:30 AM
gives Cerberus new sack since he ate the old one
 
eats cordial blueberries
 
Yumm
All I've got is M&Ms ;)
 
Those are tasty!
I sort of miss light brown.
 
@tchrist Now who's icky.
 
it looked so nice with dark brown and orange, the way that reese's pieces do.
 
2:32 AM
fills new sack with M&Ms
 
Reese's pieces are DELICIOUS.
 
What do you think this is, and why is it funny?
 
M&Ms and a plane?
 
Totally unrelated.
 
Erebor?
 
2:33 AM
I just stumbled upon it.
There are enough clues in the image to figure out what it is about.
 
Is it one of those new drone thingies everyone's arguing about?
 
Close...
 
But what is remarkable about the plane? And what is the significance of the top picture?
 
@Cerberus Plane missing.
 
2:35 AM
Yes...
And what does that tell you?
 
I dunno much about the plane. All I can figure out about the top picture is that it's darker and has less snow
 
Peak.
 
OH!
I just saw it!
 
Aw, you flew that thing over Kansas City today, didn't you?
 
@.@
zomg
It craaaashed
 
2:35 AM
You don't need to know anything about the plane except that it is a plane, and who its supposed creators are.
 
Oh, then maybe I'm wrong
It looks like there's a plane-crash-shaped void in the top picture's snow
 
What's going on in the cockpit?
 
Nope.
 
An <ISLAMOCENSORED> supersonic jet armed with nuclear warheads.
 
I dunno who created it. And yeah I can't tell what's in the cockpit either
 
2:36 AM
No crash, and the details of the plane itself are not important.
@WendiKidd There is a clue about the country. I meant the country. Tchrist got that part.
 
Umm
 
@tchrist It is indeed a (supposed) Iranian jet.
 
Then is it that the F-313 is not iranian letters, so someone faked it?
 
What is the relation between the two images, you think?
 
Gah I don't know. You've got me
 
2:38 AM
@WendiKidd No, no, the details of the plane itself are not important.
 
Oh.
Actually, the lower one is exactly the upper one.
 
One was released in x media, and one in another.
 
@tchrist Ding!
And what does that tell you?
 
Oh the plane was photoshopped in?
 
2:39 AM
Fancy camera. :)
 
You can see the cloud formations and the viewing angle are 100 % the same.
@WendiKidd Ding!!
 
I knew they were the same mountain, I was playing spot-the-difference lol
 
Also the snow and mist and ice-fog patches in the crevices on the mountain are identical.
 
So how credible does that make the existence of the purported Iranian home-built jet?
 
You never get identical fog.
 
2:40 AM
Not very!!
 
I'm going to go with "not very credible".
Also like the monkey-into-space thing
 
So you figured it out together.
Congratulations!
@WendiKidd Like that!
 
I think the space monkey thing is just stupid. You couldn't pick two monkeys that looked similar if you were going to lie?
It's just ridiculous. No brainpower whatsoever went into that.
 
nods
 
3:15 AM
I feel like ELU has sapped my ability to generate answers longer than a quip.
I used to write quality answers of serious length.
Now I don’t any more. Much.
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A: Multilingual text sorting in Perl, on Windows, using locale

tchristAssuming that your starting point is Unicode, because you have been very careful to decode all incoming data no matter what its native encoding might be, then it is easy to use to the Unicode::Encode module as a starting point. If you want locale tailoring, then you probably want to start with...

So I decided to take out my frustrations on SO instead. :)
I just got the spelling badge. I feel like a gradeschooler again.
Except we’re grownups now so we spell spelling in Latin: orthography.
Huh, it’s not very common, either:
 
3:30 AM
Wow, the bat signal is on fire on SO:
Hm, not as bad as I feared, just people who can’t do normal closes, mostly:
What they want us to do with “too many comments”, I have no idea.
 
3:51 AM
> "Star Trek" star William Shatner and tens of thousands of the show's fans are leading a charge to name one of Pluto's newly discovered moons after the character Spock's home planet. Shatner, who played Captain James T. Kirk on the Starship Enterprise on the program launched in 1966, proposed the name earlier this month in response to an appeal from scientists for help in choosing the names of two newly discovered Pluto moons.
> As of Wednesday, Vulcan was the clear front runner, receiving more than 100,000 out of more than 330,000 votes cast. ... Shatner: "We are approaching 120K votes for Vulcan on PlutoRocks.com! Have you voted today?" reference
How come it gets to have moons if it isn’t even a planet? :)
 
I was just typing something to that effect.
Also this.
 
A foot?
 
At least.
 
We have this dense ice-fog right now.
Notice how the sun doesn’t have any moons, either.
 
4:06 AM
@tchrist yag.
 
4:26 AM
Pretty snow!
 
4:36 AM
Oh man. My MIL sent me a Tom Baker scarf. And I've been watching Star Wars + documentaries (another early present) til my eyes bleed. I feel like this might be a good year.
Also, my snow has mostly melted. Sorry @chatkillah; I suppose you've got it now.
 
4:49 AM
@aediaλ ._.
@WendiKidd there are stairs under there somewhere.
 
 
3 hours later…
7:35 AM
Wow, I step away for a spell and it fills up with junk.
Ever wonder why we can’t take out a bounty on NS, complete with pin-up posters for the post office? :)
 
7:57 AM
Hi @tchrist
 
 
1 hour later…
9:14 AM
Do "obviously apparent" and "deceptively apparent" have opposite meanings?
 
@skullpatrol yes, the first is a tautology, the second is an oxymoron
 
@MattЭллен I don't understand this opposition: «it is apparent that…» and «it is only apparent that….»
 
one says X is apparent, the other says that only X is apparent
 
Doesn't the word "apparent" mean "appears"?
 
e.g. "it is apparent that monkeys have tails" — you can tell that monkeys have tails.
"it is only apparent that monkeys have tails" — the only thing you can tell is that monkeys have tails.
@skullpatrol sometimes
 
9:34 AM
1. Clearly visible or understood; obvious. <---- must be true, nothing to prove

2. Seeming real or true, but not necessarily so.<---- maybe true
@MattЭллен
 
9:53 AM
@tchrist So "obviously apparent" and "seemingly apparent" would be better?
 

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