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@Cerberus Regular butter and a warranty disclaimer. Sorry, I meant "trade secret."
@alphabet Ugh.
@alphabet It is always nice to degrade the latex using fat.
Oops, it tore.
@Cerberus well, you never know
@Cerberus Keeps Paula Deen in business.
@Mitch No, indeed.
@alphabet Voilà.
That Paula.
@Cerberus I mean...maybe they have snacks?
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@Mitch OK I am converted.
My body is ready.
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@Mitch Because you failed to decompose it into its component morphemes? Last person I knew to have that same problem and concomitant mispronunciation was Chinese. Have you been holding out on us again, Mitch?
@Cerberus the snack is popcorn...better with the aforementioned butter.
@Mitch Meh popcorn is the lowest of the low, it has no flavour.
It is probably the very cheapest snack to produce.
@CowperKettle The colorful part Russian language usually beats it's English counterpart. But I may have come across an exception. Does Russian мат have a solid equivalent to the English word unfuck ?
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@misk94555 What is unfuck?
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@Cerberus 1) it has the mediocre aftertaste of corn.
Aug 31, 2023 at 13:21, by alphabet
I suppose "unfuckable" is one of those morphological ambiguities. "That situation is [unfuck]able" vs "that guy is un[fuckable]."
@Mitch Meh.
2) that's what the butter is for
01:24
@alphabet Then what does unfuck-able mean?
@Mitch Anything gets better, or less bad, with loads of fat.
And/or sugar and/or salt.
@Cerberus Except people.
@tchrist have you ever tried some?
@tchrist Haha, well.
I do feel better when eating fatty food.
What is that?
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@Mitch Don't movie theater chains not even use real butter anymore?
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@misk94555 I think not, it does not have an equivalent of "unfuck".
There was a famous meme where a man demanded that his apartment door, which was broken into by the police with an angle grinder, be "un-cut back" ("запили мне дверь!")
@Cerberus it's a trick that makes 0/0 limit questions in math super easy, and some math profs hate that they can't make the students' lives miserable because of it, so they tend to ban using it in exams. For example, that response would be three pages long instead of half a page not using the method. Of course the notification that it's banned like it's a political opinion is the joke.
@M.A.R. Ahh OK, got it.
So 0/0...what is that?
1?
@alphabet did they ever?
Does not compute?
Some yellow goo.
03:21
I didn't know tan(x) was 0.
@Cerberus you take the derivative of the top function and derivative of the denominator function and use -that- ratio instead.
@Mitch Hmm why is that allowed, one wonders.
I can see how derivatives might have some bearing on limits.
Well, there's a mathematical proof that justifies it and that's the answer to any 'why' question in math.
Well, anyway, I could Google it if I wanted.
@Cerberus in simple-ish terms, mostly because I'm not fluent with the complicated terms, you eliminate the zeros from top and bottom until you get 0/number, which is 0, number/number, which is a real number, or number/0, which means that the function is undefined at x = 0
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@Cerberus yes
@M.A.R. And you eliminate zeros by using derivatives, somehow.
And why is 1/0 not infinite?
@Cerberus it is. We're calling it "undefined" more precisely
I see.
@Cerberus not exactly eliminate. You modify the problem so that you aren't dividing 0 by 0.
03:26
And how about an infinitely negative number?
@Mitch OK I think I have seen that.
Just don't remember there being derivatives involved.
@Mitch shit
@Cerberus you were cheated out of cheating your way out of hard questions in calculus
I honestly don't remember, this was 23 years ago!
Probably the final two years of high school.
03:46
Kiddos these days! Back in my day, we had calculus drilled into our heads for so long that we'll remember L'Hopital's rule until we die.
OK now I will look it up...
In a formula like this, it makes sense to use the derivatives.
You're basically determining which part is 'stronger', is how I would explain this to a pupil.
@Cerberus "1 / 0" doesn't mean anything; asking "What is one divided by zero?" is like asking "What is one divided by my pet goldfish?"
It's 10/11, by the way. My pet goldfish is 11/10. He's so adorable I could just...stand back and watch him flit about restlessly, slowly waiting for death to finally release him from his lonely, tiny glass prison.
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@alphabet Hmm that is now how we learn it, I think?
It is not exactly 1/0, but a number tending towards 1 divided by a number tending towards 0.
That's probably not official terminology...but it is what it is.
Divide any positive number by a number infinitely close to 0, and the result in an infinitely high number, isn't it?
04:23
@Cerberus it depends on which direction you approach 0 by. If you get closer to zero from the right (from the positive side) the limit is positive infinity. If you approach from the left (from the negative side) the limit is negative infinity.
See MAR's picture above.
@Mitch Yes.
So I would expect the limit to show a direction.
I forgot how that is written?
With the arrow going up or down, perhaps?
With a little '+' or '-'
Really?
Really
But what does the plus sign mean, then?
Increasing?
Or being on the higher side of the number?
Ambiguous!
04:29
@Cerberus decreasing, from the right
I see also this notation, I think this is what we learned in school.
@Mitch Confusing!
I think the notation I have just posted is far clearer.
@Cerberus oh. I've never seen that but it makes sense
I also see this.
Which also seems clearer.
 
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@tchrist Hmm who is this, could it be Denethor?
Or someone...darker?
Gollum?
Greek of the day: αχειροποίητος - made not by human hands (but by divine energy) a + hero + peitos (negative particle + "hands" + "to make"). Russian religious calque: nerukotvornyi (ne + ruka + tvorit')
That is correct, except that there can be no plural ending in a praefix like that.
The word also contains a suffix -tos: poêtos can be rendered as "made" or "which can be made".
Yes
I'm not versed in Greek
06:56
Note also that, in Ancient Greek, there should be a breathing mark on the a.
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> The administration has blocked the AP from covering a handful of events at the White House this week, including a news conference with India’s leader and several times in the Oval Office. It’s all because the news outlet has not followed Trump’s lead in renaming the body of water, which lies partially outside U.S. territory, to the “Gulf of America.”
 
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Dmitry Markov of the day.
Dmitry Alexandrovich Markov (Russian: Дмитрий Александрович Марков; 23 April 1982 – 15 February 2024) was a Russian journalist and photographer. Gained fame by creating genre shots of "provincial Russia" on a regular smartphone camera and publishing them on his Instagram account. == Career == Dmitry Markov was born on 23 April 1982, in Pushkino. He moved to Pskov as a child. He went to engineering college. During this period, Markov acquired his first camera. According to himself, he studied photography with Alexander Lapin. In 2005, Markov was invited to photograph at an orphanage, and as a result...
 
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Leghemoglobin (also leghaemoglobin or legoglobin) is an oxygen-carrying phytoglobin found in the nitrogen-fixing root nodules of leguminous plants. It is produced by these plants in response to the roots being colonized by nitrogen-fixing bacteria, termed rhizobia, as part of the symbiotic interaction between plant and bacterium: roots not colonized by Rhizobium do not synthesise leghemoglobin. Leghemoglobin has close chemical and structural similarities to hemoglobin, and, like hemoglobin, is red in colour. It was originally thought that the heme prosthetic group for plant leghemoglobin was provided...
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> Benedict Arnold asked an American he met in London what the Americans thought of him, to which the American said that they would make a monument out of Arnold's leg and hang the rest of his body in effigy
@Cerberus Túrin.
 
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#WhenTaken #354 (15.02.2025)

I scored 776/1000🏅

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This was new to me:
Capoeira (Portuguese pronunciation: [kapuˈe(j)ɾɐ]) is an Afro-Brazilian martial art and game that includes elements of dance, acrobatics, music and spirituality. It is known for its acrobatic and complex maneuvers, often involving hands on the ground and inverted kicks. It emphasizes flowing movements rather than fixed stances; the ginga, a rocking step, is usually the focal point of the technique. Though often said to be a martial art disguised as a dance, capoeira served not only as a form of self defense, but also as a way to maintain spirituality and culture. Capoeira has been practiced among...
Richard Thomas has worked so hard not to be typecast as a John Boy that young people just know him as a creepy old guy in bit parts here and there.
He should've went the other way, played angels or martyrs.
The world has enough creepy priests and such.
He aged with a scowl on his face
Unfortunate
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but inevitably brought upon by age
a divorce etc
 
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@Robusto You might want to now check out a capoeira in action with the instrument known as the berimbau. In Brazil, capoeira is mostly found in Bahia but of course has now migrated to the states and Europe.
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Here; right from Bahia, with some gringo, but it's OK: youtube.com/watch?v=zLilDcJrgbE
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@tchrist Ah, I don't remember too much about his story, but I do remember that it was mostly sad.
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@Lambie Thanks, I will.
 
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#WhenTaken #354 (15.02.2025)

I scored 627/1000🎗️

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@jlliagre Hmm so it was difficult?
Ahh at first I guessed the correct city! But then I switched to this one.
Always follow your intuition!
You got the year much better.
I actually think I could have got closer to the right place, now that I think about it more.
I'm happy with this.
Yay.
My first guess would have been better, but this is OK.
#WhenTaken #354 (15.02.2025)

I scored 797/1000🏅

1️⃣📍1.2K km - 🗓️1 yrs - 🥈165/200
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@Cerberus 1. to unfuck means to bring something dysfunctional functional. The subject may be hardware, software, organization. The nature of the dysfunction may be acute or chronic.
2. to unfuck means to bring something to its original state after one is done fucking with it. The purpose of the fucking may be an ad hoc experiment, or just one’s boredom.
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@misk94555 Quite the neologism!
It goes back at least to the 2nd Iraq war, and probably much further back.
Oh, an ancient traditional term.
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