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She likes all those weird-tasting British foodstuffs.
@Robusto Is it really British if Smuckers makes it? Though I buy Bonne Maman because it makes me feel like an upper-class aesthete.
@alphabet But I bet you pronounce it "Buns, mah man!"
Sorry. Gay joke.
Hah! To be honest, I don't think I've ever said it out loud.
Mostly I buy it because of those cute little glass jars it comes in.
I've only ever thought it with the French pronunciation.
Do you ever do that? You know the correct pronunciation for something, but when you ask a store clerk for it you Anglicize (not to say Americanize) it so they'll know what you're talking about?
I find it a bit grating when people constantly pronounce all loanwords (or foreign brand names) in their language of origin rather than English.
That said, I don't know what the Anglicized or the non-Anglicized pronunciation of Bonne Maman is.
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How do you call your grand-mother in France.
@jlliagre I'd call her grandma, but she was dead before I could ever get her to France.
So it's not my fault.
@alphabet you should not watch Jeopardy! then. Ken Jennings does -all- the accents.
Very well though so it is super extra annoying.
@jlliagre et...?
La vôtre?
@Mitch I was lucky to have two of them. I called my father's side one mamy but her sisters were called bonne-maman by my cousins, I called my mother's side one mamie or occasionally minnana.
Guess where they were from ! :-)
@Mitch Nah. Not all. He's shit on Japanese.
If you call your grandma something in France and she won't come, does it help if you hold out a biscuit and whistle for her?
@Robusto as the rich man said to Jack Lemon, "Nobody's perfect"
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@Mitch That was Joe E. Brown, who was famous for having a big mouth.
Stephen King could do a sequel to IT about him.
@Robusto I don't know, they always came.
@jlliagre Southern belgium and southern Corsica?
Mine were called Nana and Big Mother.
Neither were from France.
Right! Actually the French side of a town sitting on the border between France and Belgium. Southern Corsica, yes.
@jlliagre aren't there a lot of weird enclaves and nested enclaves on both sides of that border?
@jlliagre but yay! I can still read a map!
@Mitch No, that's a Belgian/Dutch thing.
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@jlliagre oh. Got it.
@Mitch Maybe you can read it, but can you recite it?
Shouldn't the southern part of Belgium just get annexed by France and the northern part to the Netherlands?
Wouldn't that just settle things easily for everybody?
Whoa, you're dangerously close to a world war now.
I'm just trying to fix things.
Next stop, Kurdistan!
@Mitch But now I think about it, the Belgian side of the town is a part of Wallonia enclaved in Flanders.
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I think people will thank me.
Is Kurdistan where they make cottage cheese?
@Robusto I'm not going to answer that.
Comines-Warneton (French pronunciation: [kɔmin waʁnətɔ̃] ; Dutch: Komen-Waasten, Dutch pronunciation: [ˈkoːmə(n) ˈʋɑːstə(n)] ; Picard: Comène-Warneuton; West Flemish: Koomn-Woastn; Walloon: Cômene-Varneton) is a city and municipality of Wallonia located in the province of Hainaut, Belgium. It is contiguous with the identically named Comines on the other side of the border with France. On 1 January 2006 it had a total population of 17,562. Its total area is 61.09 km2 (23.59 sq mi) which gives a population density of 287 inhabitants per square kilometre (740/sq mi). The name "Comines" is believed...
And do Belgian street layouts look like waffles? Asking for a friend.
Now do crepes!
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I don't know about you, but France gives me the crepes!
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You're welcome.
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@Mitch I don't think Flemings want to merge with the Netherlands. Some would like to get rid of Wallonia however, an issues is Brussels which is a French speaking enclave in the Flemish region. Should Belgium happen to be partitioned, my idea would be to give a specific status to Brussels, some kind of European "District of Columbia". I believe a majority of French would support the idea of merging Wallonia to France. Less than a majority in Wallonia and the King surely objects.
Rattachism (French: Rattachisme, IPA: [ʁataʃism] , "reattach-ism") or Reunionism (Réunionisme, IPA: [ʁeynjɔnism] , "reunion-ism") is a political ideology which calls for the French-speaking part of Belgium or Wallonia to secede from Belgium and become part of France. Brussels, which is majority French-speaking but enclaved in Flanders, may be included within this ideology; as may the six Flemish municipalities with language facilities for French-speakers around Brussels. It can be considered a French-speaking equivalent of Grootneerlandisme (or, historically, Orangism) in Flanders. The Rattachist...
Greater Netherlands (Dutch: Groot-Nederland) is an irredentist concept which unites the Netherlands, Flanders, and sometimes Brussels. Additionally, a Greater Netherlands state may include the annexation of the French Westhoek, Suriname, formerly Dutch-speaking areas of Germany and France, or even the ethnically Dutch and/or Afrikaans-speaking parts of South Africa. A related proposal is the Pan-Netherlands concept, which includes Wallonia and potentially also Luxembourg. The Greater Netherlands concept was originally developed by Pieter Geyl, who argued that the "Dutch tribe", encompassing the...
Italian irredentism in Corsica was a cultural and historical movement promoted by Italians and by people from Corsica who identified themselves as part of Italy rather than France, and promoted the Italian annexation of the island. Corsica was part of the Republic of Genoa for centuries until 1768, when the Republic ceded the island to France, one year before the birth of Napoleon Bonaparte in the capital city of Ajaccio. Under France, the use of Corsican (a regional language closely related to Italian) has gradually declined in favour of the standard French language. Italian was the official...
 
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@jlliagre the District of Brussels idea sounds reasonable. As to the King, let him keep his title and some nominal 'claim' to the territory, like call it the 'Royaume de Wallonie en France's and then much later when he 'accidentally' falls down the stairs, there's no more monarchy.
I mean it's not like there would be a public uprising.
Maybe the French wouldn't go for that - it's not very 'républicain', non? It's just a bunch of dumb names anyway and they're already in the EU, unlike those idiot anglos.
If you permit, I would like to share one of the best songs in our beautiful language (which has free word order, a free and sometimes mobile stress but no long vowels or diphthongs). I can listen it endlessly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7hAo28NCXc
I play/am playing the balalaika,
This is the most Russian instrument.
I dream of living in Jamaica.
There are no balalaikas in Jamaica.
And there is no happiness in my personal life.
My years are wasted.
Well, where are you, my foreign prince?
Come quickly. I'm waiting for you.
@Mitch No problem with kings, France already has three of them.
Wallis and Futuna, officially the Territory of the Wallis and Futuna Islands (), is a French island collectivity in the South Pacific, situated between Tuvalu to the northwest, Fiji to the southwest, Tonga to the southeast, Samoa to the east, and Tokelau to the northeast. Mata Utu is its capital and largest city. The territory's land area is 142.42 km2 (54.99 sq mi). It had a population of 11,151 at the July 2023 census (down from 14,944 at the 2003 census). The territory is made up of three main volcanic tropical islands and a number of tiny islets. It is divided into two island groups that lie...
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Such a pity you don't currently have any women here. They are beautiful. Oh... sorry(( flattering again. But I can remember I had been on StackExhange about ten years ago. I can remember... what was her name?.. It was like SnailPlane or something. But I think it was ELL rather than English Language & Usage. She was so intelligent!
@jlliagre that's only two of them, Wallis and Futuna, which one is the third one
@Mitch can I ask if you like history? historical questions
not sure: historic|historical
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@Robusto Thank you,
@Mitch Thank you.
youtube.com/watch?v=27NMF6u14DU#t=3m39s you ____________ wish for (What's she saying at the beginning there? I can't really hear it.)
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youtube.com/watch?v=vlb2I6Tk2zA#t=3m01s and a lot of them will wave the annual fee the first year (what exactly does she mean by "wave" in the context she is speaking in?)
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@MichaelRybkin She's presumably saying waive, not wave.
This is why you don't trust automated closed captioning.
@MichaelRybkin I'm pretty sure "Stephen," based on the context at the start of the video, but you couldn't tell from that clip alone.
What does 'waive' mean? Oh, I have my Oxford dictionary at ready.
Oh, it's like abandon, refuse, reject...
TFD defines it as: "To refrain from insisting on or enforcing (a rule, penalty, or requirement, for example); dispense with"
In this context, it just means that you won't have to pay the annual fee the first year.
@alphabet thanks, this site is indeed useful. I don't want to leave you. I'll write in neutral style, like Wikipedia does. 'Waive' was a new word for me.
Bipolar disorder is indeed dangerous. It follows me everywhere. Not bipolar but... how?
@Alexander As I explained earlier, we were discussing borderline personality disorder, not bipolar disorder. Rapid, constant mood swings are not generally a symptom of bipolar disorder.
borderline... hmm. I am not sure what that word means... пограничное расстройство личности. Bipolar is much more clear and understandable.)) I can understand it. I'd like to discuss some diseases, can we?
Borderline personality disorder (BPD), also known as emotionally unstable personality disorder (EUPD), is a personality disorder characterized by a pervasive, long-term pattern of significant interpersonal relationship instability, a distorted sense of self, and intense emotional responses. Individuals diagnosed with BPD frequently exhibit self-harming behaviours and engage in risky activities, primarily due to challenges in regulating emotional states to a healthy, stable baseline. Symptoms such as dissociation (a feeling of detachment from reality), a pervasive sense of emptiness, and an acute...
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@Alexander It's not really related to the normal meaning of the word "borderline." I'm sure there's a term for this condition in Russian.
I have so many diseases you cannot imagine. It can be a paradox for you, but I'm still a quite happy person.
You seem to have an extreme fear of abandonment and rejection, which doesn't tend to cause happiness.
I am grateful for the amazing joke: "There are 2.(9) types of people: ones whose math is good and ones who cannot count." [I'm not sure with the period, should it stay inside or outside of quotation marks? My big English issue.]
And how can't I have fear of extreme rejection? Shouldn't a person live in a society? I can repeat what my mom does to me. She asks me politely: "My dear son, I would like to buy some food for you." I then answer gently: "My dear mom, that or this. Or, if you prefer, you can choose something on your own instead." After that, she slaps me angrily, it hurts so lot. How can't I be a psycho? I am.
But maybe she does such things because we don't have any money at all.
But I had such a good female doctor in my life. She was about 50 or 55, black hair, very slim. I wish she could have adopted me. I would be an obedient son.
We have a song about James Bond. Do you like him? I think I won't be spamming with Youtube links but here is the translation.
I told you yesterday: “Farewell!”; I don’t want to play these games anymore.
Look, I'm not kidding, because I have a hard time loving 007 completely.
You told me smiling: “Let’s forget the past,” you asked me tenderly: “Don’t go.”
But what awaits us ahead, what kind of movie it will be and how it will end?
I want to be only with you, my Mr. Bond, you are my hero.
I can’t live without you, but it’s not easy for me to completely love Agent 007.
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@Vikas Vikas, I'm so grateful for a nice game you've shared with me. I have solved today's puzzle by myself. Four tries. So now I know the must-to-guess word can contain identical (repeating) letters. However, if I enter a word that is NOT in their dictionary, they simply won't allow me submitting it. That's also became clear.
@Alexander Yes
@Vikas oh sorry I lied a little bit. Five tries, not four.
I could do in five, but missed.
I wonder if you need to be a native speaker in order to solve these puzzles very well. I know about 7,000 English words but I am not against learning some new ones... (it becomes harder with age though). I know India has English as an official language though (one of many (21? 22? not sure)).
Not have to be native. Just better English. But even average English is also enough.
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@Vikas great, thanks. Can I ask what is your first/native language?
The Bagri (बागड़ी) is a dialect bridge between Haryanvi, Rajasthani, and Punjabi and takes its name from the Bagar tract region of Northwestern India in the states of Rajasthan, Punjab and Haryana. The speakers are mostly in India, with a minority of them in Bahawalpur and Bahwalnagar areas in modern day Pakistan. Bagri is a typical Indo-Aryan language akin to Haryanvi, Punjabi and Rajasthani with SOV word order. The most striking phonological feature of Bagri is the presence of three lexical tones: high, mid, and low, akin to Punjabi. The language has a very high (65%) lexical similarity with...
But I speak it mostly at home and with relatives. All other places I prefer Hindi.
@Vikas incredibly interesting. I haven't heard of Bagri before.
Hmm, Wiki has an article about Bagri in Russian. Russian is my native.
@Alexander Yes it's not common. Only limited to some areas of my state and the nearby state. It's not a proper language I think, as you can't write it.
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@Vikas At home, if you want to leave a brief massage for a family member, you need to use Hindi?
@Vikas Did you learn Hindi in school, or did you learn it as a small child, with friends?
@Xanne, can we talk just a little bit? Something basic if you don't mind. Please.)
@Vikas According to Wikipedia —
> There are two varieties of Bagri, Bagri Rajasthani and Bagri Punjabi. During the census, Bagri Rajasthani, spoken in Haryana and Rajasthan, is considered a Hindi dialect while Bagri Punjabi, spoken in Punjab, is considered a Punjabi dialect.[11]
That might not have copied quite right.
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@Xanne Yes I would use Hindi.
@Xanne First encounter was in school only.
@Xanne Mine is more like "Bagri Rajasthani, spoken in Haryana and Rajasthan".
 
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@Mitch Three kingdoms:
 
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> The Meiji government translated 10,000 technical books (applied science, industry, etc)
 
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@MichaelRybkin I really couldn't make that out. I played it over and over and I can't think of anything reasonable that fits. It's just not clear.
@jlliagre oh. I suppose I shouldn't expect things to always make sense.
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#WhenTaken #143 (19.07.2024)

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@alphabet I got you. Thank you very much.
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@Vikas 1) it looks like Bagri is not one of the scheduled (official gov't) languages of India. I suppose in a country of 1.4 billion, a language of ~11 million (or ~200 thousand Rajasthani Bagri + 1.6 million Punjabi Bagri) is pretty negligeable.
2) I remember you posting that link before and it had all sorts of examples of Bagri that were hilarious minor insults. It's too bad they must have been edited away. All language teaching should include a section on insults (and taboo words). Language isn't what we always express as adults, we have our own inner language of what we -could- say but think better of it.
@Alexander I like history as much as the other people here which is to say there's lots of things to talk about in history (there's a lot of it). I'm not very good at it though because I just don't know a lot that is the case in history (it's all kind of fuzzy to me) and I usually don't have well-founded opinions about it except what opinions other people that I like have said. I'm much better with math and science things.
What were the causes of the American Civil war? Danged if I know, but a lot of people died I'm pretty sure for no good reason. Or maybe for a very good reason. Holy crap I don't know.
2+2=5? Hell yeah I could talk for days about that (and have) and I will convince you of every single side and maybe even some more.
@Alexander I think you mean 'questions about history'.
'historical questions' would also 'questions about history' but you just tend to say 'questions about history' instead of 'historical questions'.
'historic questions' are questions that are historic, ie questions that have been asked over a long period of time and are well known to be questions over time. Things like 'Are people inherently bad or inherently good?' or 'Is the earth flat?' Those are historic questions. They're not about history, thery're about anything at all, but have been asked repeatedly through time.
but back to 2+2=5...
we're all convinced that it's obvious and there's nothing more really to say about it right?
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@Mitch Edited? I think the examples are there. Was there any specific?
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@Mitch I think the South seceded because the North was too woke. (Sarcasm.)
> Milley says military is not woke: ‘I’m not even sure what that word truly means’
Could someone help me understand "woke" word? I saw dictionary meaning but can't understand it fully.
I can understand if you could explain that headline's meaning.
@jlliagre #3 strikes again. Better than yesterday, but ...
@Vikas There is no way to explain that without stirring up controversy.
@Robusto We got the same idea with #2.
@jlliagre Exactly the same, apparently.
15:07
Woke is a political slang adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) originally meaning alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination. Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights. Woke has also been used as shorthand for some ideas of the American Left involving identity politics and social justice, such as white privilege and reparations for slavery in the United States. The phrase stay woke has been present in AAVE since the 1930s. In some contexts, it referred to...
@alphabet BLEEP BLOOP... teletype sounds ... NO SARCASM DETECTED ... mechanical whirring and clacking ... BLOOP BLEEP END OF TRANSMISSION BLURP
@Vikas I did the necessary research and found when the exact edits were made. The saucy examples were removed right after this version:
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@jlliagre That's pretty good (@Vikas). Could have more details, but I think gets the large picture mostly right, which is that it used to be a black thing (AAE), but has slipped into usage by primarily as a pejorative or obviously contemptuous of anything to do with political correctness.
@jlliagre SPOILER
In fact it has replaced the nearby term 'politically correct' to refer contemptuously (at least by non-blacks) to anything progressive (climate change, tree hugging, sexual harassment, death penalty for viruses, avoiding recyclable plastics, referring to homeless people with 'currently unhoused' etc etc)
@Mitch In MAGA circles it's a synonym for "gay"
Yeah... it changed semantics pretty quickly, over about 10 years.
Once white people get a hold of it, anything goes.
And it usually does.
Go that is.
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@jlliagre Look up that "country" in chat search.
@Robusto Yes, I quickly figured it out. I remembered having seen it discussed in chat.
@Robusto snort
15:45
Same kind of confusion Georgia might trigger.
And does.
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@Mitch Oh yeah.
 
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@Mitch As not being understood already happened to me a couple of times, I'm wondering if I'm not wrong here: Does I was confused by sth. imply that's I'm no more confused (that's what I expect) or is it still open to interpretation?
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@jlliagre Are you asking if "I was confused by sth" mean you are no longer confused? It can mean that, but you might still be confused. Only more context can reveal the full picture.
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@Robusto I'm referring to my spoiler comment up there about a region. To me I was confused implies that I have understood in the meantime which actual region it was about. I believe that in French if you say J'étais surpris, that's no more the case otherwise we would say je suis surpris. Maybe a slight difference here, or I'm just splitting hairs... :-)
@jlliagre In English you saying "I was confused" puts it in the past, but there's nothing to prevent you from following that with "And I still am." Current state is indeterminate. A less ambiguous way to phrase that if you want to express former confusion would be "I'm confused by sth [that happened]".
Scratching my head.
@Robusto I would understand the last example to mean and ongoing confusion.
He is no longer confused. But x is more or no more confused than x.
@jlliagre Correct. You would understand that because it's not ambiguous. But it's still ambiguous (or at least open to interpretation) to say "I was confused [by sth]."
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@Robusto Interesting. I'll try to be more explicit then :-)
Disagree. I was confused by x just locates it in the past. //Thanks for the explanation. I was confused by that. implies: I no longer am.
A jade burial suit (Chinese: 玉衣; pinyin: yù yī; lit. 'jade clothing') is a ceremonial suit made of pieces of jade in which royal members in Han dynasty China were buried. Of the jade suits that have been found, the pieces of jade are mostly square or rectangular in shape, though triangular, trapezoid and rhomboid plaques have also been found. Plaques are often joined by means of wire, threaded through small holes drilled near the corners of each piece. The composition of the wire varies, and several suits have been found joined with either gold or silver. Other suits, such as that of King Zhao...
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@Lambie Perhaps it is a common implication, but my point is that it is not necessarily an assertion of current state.
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happy international bluescreen day
@Mitch
@jlliagre I am currently confused about what exchange here in chat that you are confused about.
@MetaEd I don't know why you're looking at me. I didn't do it.
Fortunately, I am neither traveling nor interacting with a bank today.
If youtube goes down, man I'll be livid.
@Mitch Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
ope! and the first thing I see on twitter (yay! it's still working) is connecting the bug with the recommendation of C++ over Rust and its political connection.
@MetaEd I don't accept the use of 'buffalo' as a verb, or, if I do hypothetically, I require quotes where things are mentioned in order to distinguish them from actual language that means something.
@Mitch you didn't bluescreen?
@Mitch That one: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/65982227#65982227 and also yesterday when I was talking about an experience I had 40 years ago with bread and an US restaurant.
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whew that was a mindfull.
@MetaEd I use a Mac
"You idiot! You've completely messed up the spacing between Hooves and and and and and Trotters!"
@Mitch you didn't sad mac?
core dumped--your fault
@jlliagre Oh OK (I haven't been playing whentaken it's a great game but I found estimating the date to be inadmissible (?) )
Also the link doesn't spoil anything for me because it goes straight to the latest game, not the image you happen to be discussing (a possible source of confusion).
Oh, I know "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo." That's awesome. Also, "James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher." Hello to everyone.
The horse raced past the barn fell.
@jlliagre but more to the point is it -this- particular exchange?
and that evokes some sort of idea in your head about the new sentence "I was confused by..."?
@MetaEd No... did yours, if you indeed have one, or did others?
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@Mitch today's event was Windows specific
we escaped it, as we don't pay the big bucks for super antivirus that can brick your PC any old day
@MetaEd We pay the big bucks at purchase time.
@MetaEd Wait... is the ISS OK? What does NASA and SpaceX usually use?
@jlliagre To your question then: "Does I was confused by sth. imply that's I'm no more confused (that's what I expect) or is it still open to interpretation?"...
No "I was confused" is continuous past... there was a stretch of time in the past in which my state was confusion (gosh it's hard not to use the thing you're talking about to talk about it).
@Mitch no, no, not alienware. You're thinking of the unixy linux it lives on
As @Robusto implied, it is not a perfect aspect, it is not specifying that the action is completed. So it is possible that I am still confused.
BUt of course as things go, those are correlated I was confused and it's now all done.
So it is logical to say "I was confused... and still am" but there's a little surprise at the second part.
@Mitch Okay, the WhenTaken "hidden" dialog was between me and Robusto and you missed it (you need to hover on the link to see the message, not click on it.) I was confused by your snort, which I'm still unsure about the meaning, and wrongly though you were taking part in the conversation. I understand better now your confusion.
@MetaEd Yay! or rather... I feel bad for all those poor Windows users... oh well.
@MetaEd I used to know those linux varieties but now danged if I know.
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@Mitch did you abandon the unixy systems
@Mitch Let's say Robusto wrote 'My grandma was from Georgia' and I replied 'I was confused by Georgia as the first location that come to my mind is that place'. To me, my reply implies that I'm no more confused and I know it's the other Georgia that it is about.
@jlliagre Oh re whentaken (which means I am still confused but don't bother explaining)
@jlliagre To explain the 'snort', the context was I said something like 'White people do this one weird thing. Its CRAAZZY.', and @Robusto knows I'm white, so it sounds like I'm trying to deny my whiteness (though I was speaking for all white people as a white person, but that don't come across that well).
So his youtube clip was very pertinent, where one (white) kid was talking like he was black (all AAE). 'wigger', combination of 'white' and another word, is what the more confident guy called the guy with the baseball cap who was using AAE.
I have heard of 07/20/2024 Windows bug or glitch but my Windows is absolutely fine. Very strange. I have Windows 10 64-bit.
Could you guys please tell me if this sentence sounds natural to say?

You most definitely might've heard some famous Motown singers such as the Jackson 5, with Michael Jackson as singer, for example.
And @Robusto was calling me out on that.
As to my 'snort', I'm not sure how others use it (or rather I do because I just looked it up), but I tend to use it as a 'haha that was funny' but much less than a lol, and much more than a raised eyebrow.
The end.
21:06
@Mitch Yes, Searching 'snort' in the chat shows you are by far the snort champion here :-)
@jlliagre snort
We all have our quirks.
@Mitch I don't know how to translate it to French.
GT says 'renifler'.
@jlliagre It is onomatopoeic for when you find something funny but not funny enough to open your mouth and expel air forcefully as an explosive glottal fricative. I just expel some air slight through my nose with mouth closed.
Might be an American thing.
@jlliagre yeah it's sort of like a bull stamping it's foot and preparing to rush you. But that's not the situation I use it in.
@MichaelRybkin Very natural writing. Of course it is a little contradictory to say 'definitely might' (one is certain and the other is uncertain) but that is a common semantic misstep people often (that's a pleonasm with 'common'!) male.
@jlliagre not 'ronfler'?
@MichaelRybkin can I please ask if you are a Russian? Your surname is pretty much Russian or Slavic. As of your sentence, I would say instead "heard of" or "heard about", but I'm not too sure.
@MichaelRybkin for a little extra editing, the comma in front of the 'for example' isn't really needed.
21:13
@Mitch I understand. This sound (or what I believe it is) definitely exists and is done in French too. I'm now trying to find how to transcribe it. 'Ronfler' not that much, it's when you sleep.
@Mitch I was worried whether "as singer" sounded fine with no article.
@Alexander Yes, I have Slavic roots. You guessed it right.
@MichaelRybkin nice, but can I ask what is you first/native language? If possible.
@Mitch Actually I was amplifying what I took to be your point about White people taking Black culture and, basically, appropriating it. No come-uppance intended or implied.
@Alexander That would be Russian.
@MichaelRybkin офигеть, приятно, что так много русских. Крутой форум.
21:17
@jlliagre good point Oh. Yeah. THat's pretty different (though obviously in the same area)
@Alexander That's right. Lots of them are here trying to get better at English.
@MichaelRybkin yeah that's fine here.
@Mitch Thanks.
or rather not just fine, that's what you should do an article would sound a little weird and would change the meaning somewhat.
@MichaelRybkin oh, sorry, this is an English-speaking chat. I'll try to speak in English from now on. Still, it's very nice to meet you.
Can I please ask which is correct: I am a Russian or I am Russian?
21:21
@Alexander Nice to meet you too.
@Robusto Oh... like .. what was that lady's name... stars with an R? The white lady fronting as black.
@Alexander I think they are both correct.
Note my vernacular use of 'fronting' as a shorthand for a complex social situation where....oh cripes I can't complete that pastiche.
@MichaelRybkin Often musical instruments as roles in an organization (band, orchestra, etc.) drop the article. "George Harrison played bass in The Beatles" or "I used to play flute in an orchestra."
@Mitch In The Wire?
@Robusto I gotcha. Thank you.
21:23
@MichaelRybkin BOTH)))) That's extremely strange but acceptable. He is English, she is French... presumably no article. But why, aren't people countable things? I wonder if @Mitch knows the exact answer. Those articles will kill me one day.))
@Robusto nah in real life.. from Seattle... told everyone she was black when she was not at all. She was unfortunately canceled (lost her job as some admin at a university)
For the record, Paul McCartney played bass in The Beatles. I don't know what made me say Harrison.
@Mitch Yeah, rings a faint bell, but I can't supply any details.
Rachel Dolezal.
I mean uncool man, but really that's it. No need to fire her for being a little weird. I mean these are college admins, know what I'm sayin?
@Robusto says nothing
because I didn't catch that at all
@Alexander I know the exact answers to everything.
Go ahead, try me.
2+2?
5
I dare you to contradict me.
Double dare.
...
taps fingers
OK fine.
@Mitch Do you know how to translate the phrase "I have exactly five grandsons but no nephews at all" in Romanian?
> A psychotic thinks 2+2=5. A neurotic knows 2+2=4 but it bothers him.
21:27
Triple dare.
Okay. Thank you everybody for your help. Talk to you later. Gotta run.
@Alexander I refuse to answer some questions for fear of the answer being misused.
@Robusto It's pretty hard to justify 2+2=5. I suppose it could be done, and rationally too, but at some point you've bent all conscious thought into such knots to do it that ...
crap gotta go
@Mitch I guess you're not psychotic enough then. Bummer.
Dear friends, why are you so ironical?((( I seek forgiveness for my previous sins. It seems that you humiliate me just a tiny bit but you don't dislike me.
21:57
@jlliagre No longer confused.
 
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23:16
@Alexander In "I am Russian," Russian is an adjective, not a noun.
Adjectives usually don't have determiners ("I am tired," not *"I am a/the tired") with a few exceptions (e.g. "He is the tallest").
But since Russian can also be a noun, "I am a Russian" is also correct.
Note that this is why "He looks Russian" is correct but *"He looks a Russian" is not.
I'd be interested to know the statistics of where most of the students on ELL are from. Russia and India seem to be the most common.
23:37
@alphabet that's incredibly interesting. I suppose you won't kill me if I tell you I've already posted exactly the same question on BQ. Well, it's my personal question, I invented it, so I have the right to post it anywhere I want. Thanks for the explanation!
Bagri... I hadn't known anything about it before I visited this site.
sorry for verb tenses
Just wanting to talk about something. English language, countries, education, medicine, food... Anything.

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