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tchrist

01:07

@Cerberus @jlliagre Has Latin semel truly no latterday versions inherited by any of her daughters?

perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/…

simitur isn't helping

MetaEd

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tchrist

Oh, semper and semel have the same beginning.

And semper endured. Just not semel.

> From sem-per, from Proto-Indo-European *sḗm (“one”), root of Latin semel (“once”) + -per (“throughout”). Analogous to semel +‎ -per. Cognates include Ancient Greek εἷς (heîs) and Sanskrit सकृत् (sa-kṛ́t). Compare singulus. For similar compositions see paulisper, quantisper, tantisper.

So semel pro semper is one of those weird things that secretly almost seems to repeat itself. :)

Yes, I know pro and per aren't the same.

More like how once for forever does so.

The adverbializing /s/ suffix must be from PIE.

But Latin repeats things tenfold more readily with deciens (or decies) more easily than English does with tence.

Sevence.

Fierce.

Robusto

01:35

@tchrist Like forever and ever.

CowperKettle

02:02

When I'm giving my cat water from a syringe, he has uncontrolled jerks of his front paws as he starts drinking. I wonder why.

tchrist

@CowperKettle Sounds like some problem with the central nervous system, whether from injury, disease, or toxin.

Whatever it is, it's heartbreaking.

CowperKettle

Maybe he has recurrent urethral occlusions due to his avoidance of drinking. This might thicken the contents of his urinary bladder and cause new attacks

Now I make sure to give at least 30 mL daily to him by syringe, in the hope to forestall the next blockage.

> "When life satisfaction, purpose in life (do not confuse with porpoise) and self-rated health were entered as simultaneous predictors of mortality, purpose in life remained a slightly more robust predictor of mortality" pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38358729

CowperKettle

02:31

Nate Hagens - Energy, Technology, Money and the Human Ecosystem - Part 2/5

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alphabet

02:51

@CowperKettle Well, the only one we know had sex.

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CowperKettle

05:37

Medical slang of the day: sub-Q (subcutaneous)

How to Give Subcutaneous Fluids to Your Cat at Home

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> With chronic kidney disease (CKD or kidney failure), cats usually produce more urine than usual, and may become dehydrated as they may not drink sufficiently to compensate for the fluid loss. This can make the kidney disease worse, and regular SQ fluid administration can be a valuable management tool for these cats.

I never knew one could administer fluids subcutaneously.

CowperKettle

06:05

Артем Пивоваров & The Вуса - О, Панно (feat. Дурнєв, Леви На Джипі, Куцевалов)

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CowperKettle

07:00

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CowperKettle

08:35

> The oxalates found in beets can increase your uric acid level, meaning that too many beets can lead to gout. To avoid this, stick to no more than a single half-cup serving of beets per day.

I wonder if this is true.

CowperKettle

08:57

Nervous system of a sea urchin

twitter.com/natclarke8/status/1769473882581303683/photo/1

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M.A.R.

12:24

@CowperKettle wait, isn't it the opposite? People with high UA (including gouty people) are more likely to develop oxalate kidney stones, so the recommendation is that people with high UA avoid oxalatey food

As for why, well, oxalate can form stones, urate can form stones, and in a solution, if you have very small, micrometer-sizes "nuclei" for sediment formation, the process is greatly accelerated

Besides, AFAIK oxalate is an end product of UA metabolism, not vice versa?

And of course, the advice applies to people who eat lots of beet every day, not the occasional consumer

@CowperKettle there are many reasons kidneys can fail, and in most of them urine output is lower, not increased. I don't know the epidemiology of CKD in cats though.

It's definitely true that dehydration further damages the kidneys.

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Robusto

15:01

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Robusto

15:16

Daily Octordle #784
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Mitch

@alphabet ^^^

Robusto

Daily Sequence Octordle #784
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Lucked out there.

jlliagre

15:40

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MetaEd

16:46

"Revenge is a form of nostalgia."

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Robusto

17:49

Blossom Puzzle, March 18
Letters: E G H T I L N
My score: 339 points
My longest word: 12 letters
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CowperKettle

Children who started school in the fall of 2023 will always have some AI available for generation of homework etc.

Mind-boggling.

And every year, this AI will be more diverse and more available and more powerful

And maybe it will become more powerful than those kids before they reach their final school year.

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Cerberus

21:05

@tchrist You would know better than I! I can't think of any. But, yes, related words like semper, simplex, singuli, similis do.

Robusto

21:17

Daily Duotrigordle #747
Guesses: 37/37
2️⃣6️⃣ 0️⃣9️⃣ 2️⃣7️⃣ 2️⃣5️⃣
1️⃣0️⃣ 2️⃣4️⃣ 3️⃣5️⃣ 2️⃣3️⃣
3️⃣3️⃣ 3️⃣4️⃣ 2️⃣2️⃣ 3️⃣6️⃣
2️⃣8️⃣ 0️⃣5️⃣ 0️⃣3️⃣ 3️⃣7️⃣
2️⃣0️⃣ 2️⃣9️⃣ 1️⃣9️⃣ 3️⃣2️⃣
1️⃣4️⃣ 1️⃣3️⃣ 1️⃣5️⃣ 1️⃣6️⃣
3️⃣0️⃣ 3️⃣1️⃣ 2️⃣1️⃣ 1️⃣2️⃣
0️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣7️⃣ 1️⃣8️⃣ 0️⃣7️⃣
https://duotrigordle.com/

@jlliagre I tried that duotrigordle. Meh. But every time I hit return it enters a "K" for the beginning of the next line. Does that happen to you?

jlliagre

21:35

Daily Duotrigordle #747
Guesses: 41/37
0️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣1️⃣ 1️⃣2️⃣ 1️⃣3️⃣
0️⃣3️⃣ 3️⃣7️⃣ 3️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣6️⃣
3️⃣0️⃣ 3️⃣9️⃣ 3️⃣6️⃣ 3️⃣5️⃣
3️⃣4️⃣ 3️⃣2️⃣ 3️⃣1️⃣ 4️⃣0️⃣
2️⃣8️⃣ 2️⃣9️⃣ 2️⃣7️⃣ 4️⃣1️⃣
2️⃣4️⃣ 2️⃣5️⃣ 0️⃣4️⃣ 2️⃣6️⃣
2️⃣2️⃣ 2️⃣3️⃣ 1️⃣9️⃣ 2️⃣0️⃣
1️⃣8️⃣ 0️⃣5️⃣ 1️⃣7️⃣ 2️⃣1️⃣
https://duotrigordle.com/

@Robusto No "K" for me.

Robusto

I don't understand why that would be happening.

jlliagre

@Robusto A cosmic ray flipping a bit, likely.

Robusto

That would be one reliably repeating cosmic ray.

jlliagre

Don't underestimate cosmic rays sentience.

Robusto

I'll keep that in mind.

Mitch

21:49

@jlliagre gulp

jlliagre

@Mitch Hard to swallow?

Lambie

@CowperKettle Because he is used to grabbing whatever is introduced into his mouth. If, for example, you held on tight to a chicken bone and offered it to him, he would put up his paws to handle/deal with the end you offered him. However, here, it is a piece of plastic and he has an involuntary gesture like he would with the chicken bone except here,

he cannot complete his gesture so his paws just jerk. Is that explanation clear enough to understand?//I have a cat fountain my cat is simply not interested in. If you pay the post (mailing fee), I'll send it to you. :)

Lambie

22:13

@CowperKettle Yes, sometimes they do it and the cats has a huge bulge in their rear back for a few hours. It's the damndest thing to see. But it's very effective.

Mitch

23:03

@jlliagre naw just wondering whose thumb is in the cosmic ray generator

jlliagre

Cerberus

23:28

@jlliagre Hmm not sure I understand the meaning of this.

tchrist

23:39

@CowperKettle Meaning the Eloi won't have to work anymore?

jlliagre

@Cerberus It's called le doigt de Dieu (1844).

Cerberus

Hmm and what does the scene mean?

I know it means God's finger.

Robusto

Or in this case, God's thumb.

Or should that be Thumb?

jlliagre

@Cerberus It shows an artist finishing after 20 years of work it's masterpiece directly in a Louvre exhibition room.

Robusto

23:54

@jlliagre That's the skinniest artist I've ever seen.

jlliagre

@Robusto He is from another world.

Robusto

The plot thickens ...

jlliagre

Un autre monde (1844)

Un autre monde est un livre illustré publié en 1844 par l'éditeur parisien Henri Fournier. La conception et les illustrations sont de Grandville et le texte, de Taxile Delord. == Description == Le sous-titre de l'ouvrage est constitué d'un jeu phonique de désinences : « Transformations, visions, incarnations, ascensions, locomotions, explorations, pérégrinations, excursions, stations, cosmogonies, fantasmagories, rêveries, facéties, lubies, métamorphoses, zoomorphoses, lithomorphoses, métempsycoses, apothéoses et autres choses ». Il est publié sous la seule signature de Grandville, le no...

Robusto

OK, now I'm afraid.

jlliagre