@Mitch People just stay indoors and beat each other. They're like Vikings on Meth and Rye. He'll never survive it.

Atmospherics from yesterday.

Hey. If anyone knows how to translate "indignation convenue" from this quote, that would help.

Here's a translation (link) of the gist of an answer about the meaning of the adjective "convenu(e)".

And an ngram with extra examples of this collocation.

Cheers!

@ʁəʄɘləmɘlə How about, rote indignation, perfunctory indignation?

@Cerberus Thank you, this might work indeed.

Or obligatory indignation?

@Cerberus There might be a disingenuous or not very sincere connotation. I'm not sure.

I mean to "convenu(e)" in this context.

@ʁəʄɘləmɘlə Right, the contexts suggests that.

So you can use that in your translation if it suits the translated context.

The context is the reaction of politicians to a recurring theme, like issues with elderly healthcare or mass killing i.e. gun control. The modifier carries a judgment call on their indignation.

That translation may carry more or less strongly that judgment call. With spoken language I could say "this same old indignation" and I might be able to achieve what I want, but this is slightly more formal. Anyways @Cerberus

In the question on French SE it was some article about elderly care in LeMonde.

I did my part on the topic. It wasn't my idea in the first place anyways. Thanks for your help there!

Have a good one!

@ʁəʄɘləmɘlə Yeah, I read it.

I picked translations which fit that context.

Good luck!

@ʁəʄɘləmɘlə Would "performative indignation" work? I don't know French, but the word "performative" is often used in similar contexts, at least in US politics.

Merriam-Webster defines it as "made or done for show (as to bolster one's own image or make a positive impression on others)"

But it often conveys the idea of (say) a politician going through the motions of displaying some sort of emotional response to am event without actually caring enough to do anything

See e.g. this article

> Wagner Group's Prigozhin tells Putin to end fighting in Ukraine

Prigozhin:

@Vikas They could be playing Good Cop - Bad Cop.

He isn't afraid of falling from windows.

Brave guy.

Word of the day: anting

17 April: Russia sentences opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza to 25 years in prison - NPR

> "For a person who has not committed any crimes, acquittal would be the only fair verdict," Kara-Murza said at the closing session of his trial on Monday. "But I do not ask this court for anything. I know the verdict. I knew it a year ago when I saw people in black uniforms and black masks running after my car in the rearview mirror. Such is the price for speaking up in Russia today."

Guessed the flag on the first try. Even a blind fig finds an airhorn once in a while.

Kind of a joke, that one.

Two possibilities, and of course I guessed wrong the first time.

@HippoSawrUs I heard that Iceland had a really bad teenage drinking problem but not anymore (past 10-15 years?) because they instituted ... after-school programs.

Really, that was it. Just keep the kids busy and they don't drink (as much?).

@Mitch What if they're busy drinking?

Iceland (the entire country) has a population of <400K. So that's like getting one medium size US city to have a small boost in their school budget.

I hear housing prices are real good there, especially after the 2008 financial crisis.

checks Zillow

But property values are lower near the Arctic Circle, I think.

@Vikas the crazier tyrants get, the more likely such things become for the likes of him anyway

@Robusto a quick google search shows that the housing market in Iceland is ... iffy? globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Iceland/Price-History

> The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has recently urged Iceland to implement macroprudential measures, in addition to the ongoing monetary tightening, to cool the heating housing market and avoid a disastrous crash. Risks in the banking system have risen in recent years due to surging house prices.

The always sounds to me like some nefarious manipulator of world actors...

Oh cripes...

Don't tell me people can't find a place to live there

The Impossible Mission Force

I mean Tabriz has four times the population, and it's a smallish city

@Mitch I hate when pages only gives you percents, not actual currency figures.

@M.A.R. I'm sure people who live there already aren't too upset, but maybe young people who want to move into their own place are annoyed.

@Mitch this time Ethan Hunt tries to stop bankers from crashing the market, and it's the truly the biggest impossible challenge yet

@Robusto Yeah it's like they assume you know that already. If I knew that I wouldn't need your goddam percentage graph.

Do you guys live in a place where a "Global Property Guide" can be helpful?

@M.A.R. Iceland has an impact on our geographical conscience entirely incommensurate with its population.

...says the IMF.

I mean with how our currency is doing I feel like I need to learn to photosynthesize if I wanna ever travel abroad

@M.A.R. I think that website is directed not to local buyers but by world-wide investors.

@Mitch I didn't realize it was such a touchy subject

But yeah, when we bought in the Boston area in the early '90s it seemed horribly expensive. Now it's increased fivefold since then.

@Mitch right, I'll keep that in mind if I ever need to launder money offshore

@M.A.R. As the unpiloted helicopter falls through the gorge, Hunt struggles through the burning wreckage and before the nuclear bomb explodes, unleashing a deadly virus and tidal wave, he manages to tick over with his pinkie the decimal point two digits.

Like, this stuff isn't written anywhere in any textbook. Good to know where to look.

@HippoSawrUs 3 blocks! And naps! To be 5 years old again!

@M.A.R. I have nothing against the Icelanders as a whole (some individuals though? They know who they are)

When was the last time someone worried whether you got enough sleep?

But also same story for Israel/Palestine. A boat load of worldwide distress over a handful of very angry people.

Also Northern Ireland.

And, if my sociopolitical agenda for world domination pans out, you'll find that Israel and Palestine will be voting for each other at Eurovision.

@M.A.R. That's probably not too far off the mark.

@Robusto Yes, it's awful, and rent has gone up with it so that it is hard for young people to live here.

@M.A.R. Can't you people keep your currency clean? Sheesh!

@M.A.R. Are you saying that plants can fly? That's interesting.

@Mitch Because so many young people do live there. That's because it's where the good-paying jobs are for knowledge workers.

@Mitch Yes, country blocks, but still… You vacuum their library one time after a party, and you're a hero for life. I got cake and a brass pin, sure did. It was a lot of confetti… I hope they're on lockdown now though.

@Robusto they keep pissing on it from above, and it's a trickle down economy

@Mitch What else are those green wings on top for

Also, everything I know about money laundering I've forgotten from watching youtube videos by teenagers commenting on Breaking Bad.

@Mitch I'll be honest. I never cared much about what goes on in Iceland

@Mitch kinda like Khamenei's plan eh

Wait. squints

I will casually move on and try to whistle with my dry mouth and pretend I now do not suspect all of you to be government agents

@M.A.R. It's not like I care. I just hear about it in the news way more than it seems reasonable given that nobody is currently killing anybody over nothing there (all the murders there seem to be well-justified, even by the murderee).

@M.A.R. .

Wait. Are you referring to the fight over fishing waters, or is something else going on in Iceland

But hey Khamenei sounds like an OK guy if he has similar opinions about Eurovision.

@M.A.R. What? Is something actually happening there? I had no idea.

I thought it was just Brits realizing how much they screwed up by having to settle maritime borders.

@Mitch his vision probably involves Europutin mostly

All those drones aren't going to sell themselves

@M.A.R. Why can't we have President Wienerschnitzel?

Stick with me for a moment.

Russia gets a president with a Canadian delicacy for a name.

Khamanei should change his name to Falafel

He'd get much greater ratings

Macaron was close.

Xi Jin-Ping? Xi Jin-Vindaloo!

@jlliagre He is so lucky

macaron, macaroon, macaroni

@Robusto How ya sleepin' these days, Big R? Cranky much? Me too. Tell ya what, listen up. Go down to the Walmart and getcha some of that Equate whatever beside the Benadryl and just sip on it, don't chug it now, on yer way home, then finish it up in the driveway and runnin' jump on yoo cow chuh, BEE CaUse I mean…zzZZzz……zzZZzz…

He probably had a lot of trouble with bullying as a kid

that's what builds you up to be a great leader.

like Putin.

@Mitch He even has his own utf-8 character: ¯

@jlliagre And emoji too:

wow emojis are bigger than I expected

@M.A.R. Abandoned villages in India have a higher population.

@HippoSawrUs I'm actually sleeping better than ever. I went to Sleep School a few years ago and learned a lot of tips for getting good sleep. And mostly they work! Who knew?

@Mitch makes the sign against evil

@Robusto reels back in horror

does that creepy lip sucking thing that Anthony Hopkins did in Silence of the Lambs

@Mitch Mi más sentido pésame.

Are lambs really that quiet? I picture them bleating a lot, like goats, just as annoying but cuter?

All the lambs I know were in petting zoos a long time ago.

I wonder how they're doing now.

Probably older.

@Mitch Yeah, the only time they´re silent is after they´ve been slaughtered for Easter meals.

@Robusto What?

You thought that film was an uplifting fairy tale?

For Easter, when I was kid, we had a pewter mold for making a lamb-shaped cake.

I think we used it once.

Seemed like a good idea at the time, I guess.

@Robusto Well yeah about the successes of the correctional industry?

Tsk-tsk. That is a pollyanna-ish view if I ever saw one.

I hated that one.

@jlliagre Ne comprends pas.

Quoi ? Mais tout le monde sait que le 74, c'est la Haute-Savoie ! :-)

J'aurais dû le savoir.

Late-season blizzard slams Wisconsin, delivers snow to Chicago

@tchrist ^

@Robusto Le drapeau de la Savoie est lui-aussi un grand plus !

That is a sticky subject.

@Mitch makes sign against evil again

@Robusto The stickers ad says Police de caractère officielle. If they don't pay too much attention to the precise wording, potential buyers might understand that the police would consider the sticker to be official, conforming to the rules while in fact, only the typeface comply with the law and the Savoy coat of arms is illegal on a license plate.

@Robusto Nice

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link (24): Unlike in DISassemble, why doesn't the DIS- in 'DISsemble' mean 'undo or reverse'?‭ by user478435‭ on english.SE

@jlliagre Tu pourrais faire savoir aux mods du forum français que ce type Muldoon s'est déjà fait viré du forum espagnole à cause de ses questions complètement incompréhensibles et une attitude plutôt bizarre ainsi que son refus d'interaction. T'as vu la question sur grass?? Enfin, ils ont bien fait de le mettre à la porte. Si tu lis entre les lignes, on voit qu'il est en train de take the piss.

> According to leaked classified documents, China supplied secret shipments of lethal aid for Russia's war on Ukraine. 'The Guardian' reports that top-secret intelligence dated February 23 shows that China approved incremental provisions of weapons disguised as civilian items.

> US Says Brazil "Parroting Russian And Chinese Propaganda" On Ukraine War

So parrot is a verb too.

@Vikas All nouns in English are potentially verbs.

The "parrot" verbing is used because parrots mindlessly repeat human speech they hear.

@Robusto Parrots are apparently smarter than just that.

@Mitch Could one put together a Heathkit TV?

:apparanly boy emoji:

@Robusto I ain't seen no beavers build no pyramid

Wait... -I- can't put together a Heathkit TV

@Mitch They must aim higher. Ever upward, ever onward ... Excelsior!

I can put together a piece of Ikea furniture, like a candlestick. With the 'no words' instructions even.

@Robusto I think a lot of rodents are just slacking off.

Why would raccoons stop at trash bins?

Could you change the oil in your car if you needed to?

It's just size discrimination.

@Robusto Oh sure. There's a button for that, right?

You might have to slide/swipe/tap your credit card.

@Robusto Can you turn off the low tire pressure light on your dashboard, after all tires have been given air? No checking the car manual.

And that's with years and years of technical education/experience -building such interfaces.

Use a hammer.

@Mitch Yes. But I never need to do that because I keep my car's tires inflated.

@tchrist Never on the first attempt. Fail at a couple of things first and then you're justified in using deadly force.

@tchrist You didn't hear my story of trying to fix an old vacuum tube TV.... I used a screwdriver, not a hammer, to help rip out stuff and when I got to the bottom I found the one loose vacuum tube whose replacement would have fixed everything.

@Robusto "...after all tires have been given air"

I drive a hybrid and it gets the best gas mileage when the tires are inflated to a certain pressure.

@Robusto Look man it now takes a mechanical engineering PhD -and- a weekend to adjust a desk chair -with- the instructions.

@Mitch Why do companies keep making shit harder? Discuss.

But politics? You just gotta shake hands well, slap people on the back, except women, then you have to kiss the back of their hand. or is it a fist bump? shit, how do make a come back on twitter?

@Robusto Keeps customer service in jobs?

until they're replaced by...

Are all my conversations going to end up from now on with 'ChatGPT'?

I'm still pissed about SE making things that used to be intuitive suddenly not. I mean, I get that clicking on a link that says "See all answers" may make E-readers work better for blind people, but WHY TAKE AWAY THE INTUITIVE LINK AWAY? The title of the ANSWERS column that everyone used to click on to perform that task? NO. You're not blind, so you can read, and you shall not have any advantage over someone who is blind.

@Robusto That's a conflict between design inertia and design innovation.

Or a leaky abstraction for an API.

One of those

Note that I said "someone who is blind" instead of "the blind" because I don't want to get anyone's unseeing knickers in a twist.

or maybe both

It's more like a leaky obstruction for an API.

@Robusto pulls at underwear to get out of buttcrack

to be clear, my own

@Robusto Wait... that's -it-? That's your only complaint?

No more dang kids on your lawn?

I'm pretty amenable to everything but political stupidity. Oh, and war and oppression. All the usual stuff.

@Robusto So.. that dude thinks he's not ordinary?

Rather than being upset at the spoilers for 'Succession', you were the one who very self-satisfiedly put out the spoilers?

That's gotta be satisfying.

Oh You're going to see Titanic? You'll love the scene at the end when the ship sinks.

@Mitch Spoiler alert much?

@Robusto I keep getting that suggested to me. What does Youtube know about me?

@Mitch It knows you live in liberal Massachusetts. Anything else they need to know?

@Robusto Oh you're going to see the Matrix? It's really cool at the end when you find out that Neo really -is- 'The One'.

I've known that for an eon because neo is an anagram of one.

Maybe the easiest anagram ever, in fact.

only then do you realize that his name 'Neo' (that's his -real- real name, not Tom Anderson) is an anagram of 'One'

Mind blowing

the clue was always there. You had no idea it was going to turn out that way.

There are way too many movies whose main character is The Chosen One.

@Robusto exactly

@Robusto But...

and hear me out...

This one was actually 'The One'

so awesome

@Robusto noe you didn't

Did they trademark "The One"? No? I didn't think so.

@Robusto Um actually

No one else bothered to -use- it. They should get an award for it.

Didn't McDonald's used to have a jingle that went "You ... you're the one ..."?

I rest my case.

Now I gotta go. Later.

@Robusto Maybe youtube thinks I'm in the ordinary part of MA

@Robusto The Matrix missed a chance there

Tie-ins.

In your hallucinations

Anyway, not I really gotta go. Later, gator.

How did you know?

I've had some work done to get rid of the wrinkles.