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Ukrainian country
It's canonic Vietnam-dark-country, reminiscent of Fortunate Son, with perfect Ukrainian culture-tinged lyrics. I have never heard about this group.
Amazing.
 
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A: "Sketching" a graph

John LawlerBack in college, when I was a math major, "curve sketching" was a unit in calculus class. After you'd learned some derivative tricks, which aren't hard, you can solve for zeroes and inflection points of an equation (you do have to have an equation to sketch the curve of -- I'm not talking about d...

John Lawler, professor emeritus of English, was at one point a math major in his undergraduate days.
Yes, this is the Midlands pronunciation of (in my idiolect -- I was born in 1942 in DeKalb, IL) "warsh, warshing, Warshington, garsh!" and that's all. It is an /r/ and it is intrusive, but it's not the same "intrusive r" one gets in the non-rhotic northeastern dialects. Southern dialects are a different kettle of fish entirely, and I don't know diddly about them. — John Lawler Jan 9 at 16:10
And he was born in Dekalb in 1942! @Robusto ^^^^
I had long wondered why he also knew so much stuff from the very technical side of the world, not just English.
 
3:22 AM
A true Renaissance man
 
He was born in the same year as my father, and barely a stone's throw away.
 
 
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5:24 AM
My father was born in 1946, in the Far East of Russia.
Then his mom brought him to Paris in the Urals, I believe. Then to Narodichi, Ukraine. Then back to the Urals.
Narodychi (Ukrainian: Народичі) is an urban-type settlement in Korosten Raion, Zhytomyr Oblast, northern Ukraine. It was the administrative center of the former Narodychi Raion, and after the reform in 2020, the city became part of the Korosten Raion. It lies on the northern side of the Uzh River, 134 kilometres northwest of Kyiv. Population: 2,907 (2022 est.) == History == Narodytchi is located in the historic region of Polesia. Narodytchi was first mentioned in historical records in 1545. According to the census of 1897, the total population is 4576 including 2054 Jewish inhabitants. It attained...
 
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6:58 AM
Clear sky
 
@Vikas Temperature?
 
7:19 AM
@Vikas Wow
Here, there was a red sunrise. Also beautiful. But very windy, with gusts of 20 meters/s
 
7:45 AM
@FaheemMitha 15 degree C
Cool wind is also blowing but it's comfortable in sun
@CowperKettle 13 nw km/h here
Usual wind is below 10
 
8:03 AM
Usually*
 
8:29 AM
@Vikas Oh. That's quite cool. It's fairly cool here. Not sure about the wind.
 
8:44 AM
I just went up on the terrace. It feels fairly warm up there, but it's a bit after 2 pm, so I suppose that's hardly surprising. And very little wind. But at nights the temperature drops quite a bit.
 
 
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10:58 AM
Wind is cool but sunlight is fighting it quite well! Otherwise 15 degrees C is uncomfortable to me.
 
11:08 AM
Word of the day: pick-me-up (A five day holiday in the Bahamas would be a great pick-me-up)
The Sun and Wind contested
The Government of Day,
The Sun took down his Yellow Whip
And drove the Wind away
@Vikas Toda, one runner at the ParkRun said that "In India, they have to repeat the Hare Krishna mantra a million times over their life in order to get what they consider the best after death, I don't remember what"
Haha.
He also said that devout Hindus carry some powder made of cow dung.
Like, carry with them for some ritual purposes.
@jlliagre I downloaded some US movie about a WWII POW camp escape, but after a 5-minute scroll I deleted it. Life in that camp seemed way too posh and relaxed.
Although the movie had a high rating.
 
11:27 AM
@CowperKettle What was the name of the film?
 
11:43 AM
@FaheemMitha Oh, I don't recall
There was a scene in which Americans tried to communicate with Russian women prisoners, who were in a separate compound
Root of the day: salsify /ˈsælsɪfi/
Odd pronunciation of the day, too.
 
11:55 AM
@CowperKettle Heard similar stories.
@CowperKettle Could be.
 
12:44 PM
A great cartoon
 
12:56 PM
Er, how insensitive is it for me to say that Prince Harry is a bit of an attention vampire slash a more vulgar term?
He's taken up everywhere and now I can't read about how this or that research team is revolutionizing this or that field
@CowperKettle oh that's something they say here too when they wanna be a bit . . . Racist? Ethnicist? Neighborophobic? Because we're essentially the same people
The pitch is "devout Hindus have a religious ritual involving cow dung" -> "devout Hindus like cow dung" -> "All Indians worship cow dung"
Which is again weird because I can't tell from photos whether a man is Persian or Indian
The average Indian is maybe a bit more tan maybe.
And it gets a bit weird at the Northern borders
 
@M.A.R. I just blacklisted the phrase on Twitter, and voila.
There must be some browser addon to blacklist phrases.
@M.A.R. He wasn't denigrating, it was just a chat :)
 
He's totally like Kendall Roy from Succession
 
Indians are too far away for Russians to feel superior to them.
 
Wha do you do when you have all the money in the world and still need entertainment?
 
1:11 PM
Succession is an American satirical black comedy-drama and family saga television series created by Jesse Armstrong. It premiered on June 3, 2018, on HBO. The series centers on the Roy family, the owners of Waystar RoyCo, a global media and entertainment conglomerate, who are fighting for control of the company amid uncertainty about the health of the family's patriarch, Logan Roy (Brian Cox). The series has been renewed for a fourth season, which is set to premiere in spring 2023.Among the series's cast are Jeremy Strong as Kendall, Kieran Culkin as Roman, and Sarah Snook as Siobhan ('Shiv'),...
 
@CowperKettle dude you have GOT to watch it.
 
Okay!
 
Every minute is worth it. Best recent show out there.
 
@CowperKettle The Great Escape
The Great Escape is a 1963 American war adventure film starring Steve McQueen, James Garner and Richard Attenborough and featuring James Donald, Charles Bronson, Donald Pleasence, James Coburn, Hannes Messemer, David McCallum, Karl-Otto Alberty, Gordon Jackson, John Leyton and Angus Lennie. It was filmed in Panavision, and its musical score was composed by Elmer Bernstein. The film is based on Paul Brickhill's 1950 non-fiction book of the same name, a firsthand account of the mass escape by British Commonwealth prisoners of war from German POW camp Stalag Luft III in Sagan (now Żagań, Poland),...
Chicken Run is a 2000 stop-motion animated comedy film produced by Pathé and Aardman Animations in partnership with DreamWorks Animation. Aardman’s first feature-length film and DreamWorks Animation's fourth film, it was directed by Peter Lord and Nick Park from a screenplay by Karey Kirkpatrick and based on an original story by Lord and Park. The film stars the voices of Julia Sawalha, Mel Gibson, Tony Haygarth, Miranda Richardson, Phil Daniels, Lynn Ferguson, Timothy Spall, Imelda Staunton, and Benjamin Whitrow. The plot centres on a group of British anthropomorphic chickens who see an American...
 
Corpus callosum found to switch off right hemisphere during speech - an fMRI study made in Russia, with Russian-language speech tasks.
@jlliagre "Chicken Run" was so great.
@jlliagre In the same vein, a great SF story Hermit and Sixfinger
 
1:27 PM
@CowperKettle Too bad you didn't watch The Great Escape to the end. Chicker Run is kind of a remake of it by the way.
 
1:40 PM
Life Is Beautiful (Italian: La vita è bella, Italian pronunciation: [la ˈviːta ˈɛ bˈbɛlla]) is a 1997 Italian comedy drama film directed by and starring Roberto Benigni, who co-wrote the film with Vincenzo Cerami. Benigni plays Guido Orefice, a Jewish Italian bookshop owner, who employs his fertile imagination to shield his son from the horrors of internment in a Nazi concentration camp. The film was partially inspired by the book In the End, I Beat Hitler by Rubino Romeo Salmonì and by Benigni's father, who spent two years in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II. The film was...
@CowperKettle
 
@CowperKettle Stalag 17
 
La Vache et le Prisonnier (English version: "The Cow and I") is a French-Italian tragicomedy film from 1959, starring Fernandel and directed by Henri Verneuil, that is based on Jacques Antoine's 1945 novel, Une histoire vraie (A True Story). It tells the story of a French prisoner of war in World War II forced to work on a farm in Germany who decides to escape by walking away with a cow he calls Marguerite (Daisy in English). The most successful film in France in 1959, with over 8 million seats sold, it was also the most successful film of Fernandel's career. == Plot == Charles Bailly, a French...
 
Vachement bien
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:-)
La Grande Vadrouille (French pronunciation: ​[la ɡʁɑ̃d vaˈdʁuj]; literally "The Great Stroll"; originally released in the United Kingdom as Don't Look Now... We're Being Shot At!) is a 1966 French-British comedy film set in 1942 about French civilians who help the crew of a Royal Air Force bomber shot down over Paris to make their way through German-occupied France to safe territory. == Plot == On a summer day in 1942, a lost RAF bomber strays over Paris and is shot down by German flak. After planning to reconvene in the Turkish baths at the Grand Mosque of Paris, the crew parachutes out, but only...
> La Grande Vadrouille remained the most successful French film in France for over forty years, and is still the fifth most successful film ever in France (on the basis of admissions), of any nationality, behind the 1997 version of Titanic, French hits Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis (2008) and Intouchables (2011), which were seen by over 19,000,000 cinemagoers, and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
 
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@jlliagre I watched this. I like escape movies.
@jlliagre I watched this as well. Very entertaining and nice.
 
Roberto Benigni is a genius in his films as in real life.
 
@CowperKettle yes you must watch that movie you left in middle 😎
@jlliagre I recommended it to my friend in college. After that we both tried to mimic candies and competition scene for many days.
 
2:25 PM
I liked Escape from Alcatraz too.
 
2:42 PM
A Prophet (French: Un prophète) is a 2009 French prison crime film directed by Jacques Audiard with a screenplay by Audiard, with Thomas Bidegain, Abdel Raouf Dafri, and Nicolas Peufaillit, from a story by Dafri. The film stars Tahar Rahim in the title role as an imprisoned petty criminal of Algerian origins who rises in the inmate hierarchy, becoming an assassin and drug trafficker as he initiates himself into the Corsican and then Muslim subcultures. == Plot == Malik El Djebena, a 19-year-old French youth of Algerian descent, is sentenced to six years in prison for attacking police officers....
One of the rare movies where you can hear some Corsican spoken.
 
Check this please (does this sound like a natural thing to say in English to a native speaker's ears?):

What did they say? I want to know their final pleads.
 
*pleas
 
2:57 PM
Gotcha. Thank you very much.
 
@Vikas I'll try!
Oops, turns out that in court it's also "pleas"
 
3:14 PM
Plea, Pleaded / Pled, from the French verb Plaider that gives the, not to be confused, nouns Plaidoyer (Plead) and Plaidoirie (Pleading).
 
I came across a mention of an elite ultramarathon runner who claims to have been on a ketogenic diet for years. I find it impossible to believe. How can one run without carbohydrates.. O_O marathonhandbook.com/who-is-zach-bitter
I tried "loading" carbs before big runs and bicycle rides, eating a lot of pasta and injecting more insulin on the night before.
This is odd.
> A ketogenic diet (KD) increases longevity 13.6% in mice.
This I can believe, but won't they feel tired at all times
 
Increases longevity as opposed to what control?
 
Yes, I haven't read the review. And haven't looked up the impact factor of the journal
So could be wishful thinking
Why then diabetics died in the pre-insulin era? Could a ketogenic diet be a (weird and hard-to-maintain) replacement for insulin?
 
3:59 PM
@CowperKettle Yes, that goatsbeard synonym looks for all the world like a verb for turning stuff into a salsa/sauce: Here lemme salsify ya some tomaters an’ chillies an’ cilantro to go with yer burrito. You can blame the pronunciation on the French — because that’s always an easy lift. :)
> Etymology: < French salsifis (in the 16–17th cent. variously sercifi, serquify, sassify, sassefy, sassefique, sassefrique), believed to be corruptly < Italian sassefrica, of unknown origin. Compare Spanish salsifí, Portuguese sersifim.
> salsifí
Del fr. salsifis, este del it. sassifrica, y este del lat. saxifrăga 'saxífraga'.

1. m. Planta herbácea bienal, de la familia de las compuestas, de unos 60 cm de altura, con tallo hueco y lampiño, hojas rectas, planas, estrechas, alternas y envainadoras, flores terminales de corola purpúrea, y raíz fusiforme, blanca, tierna y comestible.

2. m. Raíz del salsifí.

salsifí de España, o salsifí negro

1. m. escorzonera.
The yellow kind grows everywhere, but the purple kind isn't uncommon either.
> A biennial composite plant, the Purple Goat's-beard, Tragopogon porrifolius, indigenous to Great Britain and the Continent of Europe, producing an esculent root.
meadow salsify (U.S.): the Yellow Goat's-beard, Tragopogon pratensis (Britton & Brown Flora Northern U.S. iii. 269).
Tragopogon is goat's beard in Greek.
Porrifolius means with the leaf (folii) of a leek, the allium called pueros in Spanish.
And the stress is tragoPOgon not traGOPagon.
This is one of those rare Latin names that were given to us straight from Latin. Pliny, to be precise.
> Etymology: < classical Latin tragopōgōn (Pliny; adopted in scientific Latin as a genus name: see note at definition) < Hellenistic Greek τραγοπώγων (Theophrastus) < ancient Greek τράγος he-goat (see tragus n.) + πώγων beard (see pogonology n.).
"Spanish salsify" is a different genus, though. The black one.
Tragopogon porrifolius is a plant cultivated for its ornamental flower and edible root. It also grows wild in many places and is one of the most widely known species of the salsify genus, Tragopogon. It is commonly known as purple or common salsify, oyster plant, vegetable oyster, Jerusalem star, Jack go to bed, or simply salsify (although these last two names are also applied to other species). The Latin specific epithet porrifolius means "with leaves like leek" (Allium porrum). == Origin and distribution == Tragopogon porrifolius is a common biennial wildflower, native to southeast Europe and...
Scorzonera hispanica, commonly known as black salsify or Spanish salsify, also known as black oyster plant, serpent root, viper's herb, viper's grass or simply scorzonera, is a perennial member of the genus Scorzonera in the sunflower family (Asteraceae), cultivated as a root vegetable in the same way as purple salsify (Tragopogon porrifolius), also in the sunflower family. It is native to Southern Europe and cultivated as a crop in Southern and Central Europe. It grows on nutrient poor soils, dry pasture, rocky areas, in thickets and on limy or marly soils of temperate zones. == Description... ==
> 2012 Observer Mag. 8 Jan. 46 The giant dandelion clocks of tragopogon.
> Salsifies are one example where hybrid speciation has been observed.[7][8] In the early 1900s, humans introduced three species of goatsbeard into North America.

These species, the western salsify (T. dubius), the meadow salsify (T. pratensis), and the oyster plant (T. porrifolius), are now common in urban areas. In the 1950s, botanists found two new species in the regions of Idaho and Washington, where the three already known species overlapped. One new species, Tragopogon miscellus, is a tetraploid hybrid of T. dubius and T. pratensis. The other species, Tragopogon mirus, is also an all
Tragopogon pratensis (common names Jack-go-to-bed-at-noon, meadow salsify, showy goat's-beard or meadow goat's-beard) is a biennial plant in the family Asteraceae, distributed across Europe and North America, commonly growing in fields (hence its name) and on roadsides. It is found in North America from southern Ontario to Massachusetts; most of England; on the eastern and southern edges of Scotland; and central Ireland but not the coastal edges. It flowers between June and October and its flowers have a diameter of 3–5 cm. The root and buds are edible, and it has a milky latex. == Description... ==
Pratensis is "of the prado", of the meadow/prairie.
I don't know that I've ever seen the yellow/purple hybrid.
 
@tchrist why were the comments closed here?
 
@user4539917 So people would post answers. If I don't do that, they won't.
Notice all the nice answers we go there. That happened only because I locked out comments.
 
From a high school perspective it's a one line answer.
 
One-line answers have no place here.
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Yes, they are nice.
 
4:13 PM
We may start suspending people for giving one-line answers in comments. Is that what you prefer?
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Got an answer? Post an answer.
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But put it in a comment and expect to be moderated.
And don't post one-line answers. We don't want that. We want depth.
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Yes sir.
 
@CowperKettle seeing that on a phone, it looks like a photograph
 
@tchrist Please, no.
 
@M.A.R. Now I'm curious what the vulgar term is.
 
@Cerberus As I have elsewhere written, I hope never to do that.
I just don't know what to do to get people to use the right box. It seems hopeless.
Notice how well locking it worked in the referenced question.
 
4:25 PM
@tchrist Those meadows are so pretentious
 
@Mitch Just a mite precious today, aren't we mate?
 
@tchrist It is hopeless, indeed.
Some problems are insoluble.
 
@tchrist very prescient
 
Aqua regia solves most things.
 
and propitious
@M.A.R. How about Azeri and (northern) Indian?
@jlliagre I was disappointed in this film because I really expected it to be funny and it wasn't
On the other hand, Jojo Rabbit was an actual Holocaust comedy
 
4:46 PM
Black comedy is racist.
@Mitch prat- ≠ pret-. ya prat.
 
In even more confusing personal opinions, of the two recent meta.elu posts about the 'bad' culture on ELU (both highly downvoted), Ivoted one up and one down
one sounded like an an annoying rant, the other like they were reasonable.
 
Prêt-à-Porter isn't about Pullman Porters. Which, again, is racist.
 
Partly?
 
Presto chanjo don Magnífico.
That's goatsbeard.
Please don't ask me why. Ask Pliny. It was his idea.
 
He was making a dad joke but someone overheard and took it seriously
That's how religion started
 
4:55 PM
Satyr? Or Satan?
@Mitch I've finally figured out why talking to you leaves me breathless.
 
You forget to breathe?
same here
 
YOUR FAULT! When you never finish anything, it's like everything ends with a leading tone, unfinished, some sort of deceptive cadence. I hold my breath till you're done and you never get done.
I'm always left on the edge of a cliff, hanging there, waiting.
Blue balls.
 
(like when I fail to close parentheses
 
)
I bet you uptalk too?
 
That's all I ever do?
not in real life
 
5:00 PM
Deceiver.
 
or at least I don't think I do
 
Enfant terrible!
By the hair of the goat that bearded you.
Next up: chupacabras.
 
Which reminds me, I should shave
 
Teenage girls never shave.
 
Chupa chupa
 
5:02 PM
Pero eso, sí.
 
@tchrist says nothing
 
Few there are who having nothing to say do so.
I feel a pineapple question coming on.
I don't know why they're all so horny.
Maybe the spines.
== Latin == === Participle === praetēnsīs dative/ablative masculine/feminine/neuter plural of praetēnsus
Adjective: prātēnsis (neuter prātēnse); third-declension two-termination adjective
  1. (relational) meadow
Adjective: praeternātūrālis (neuter praeternātūrāle); third-declension two-termination adjective
  1. supernatural, preternatural
== Latin == === Alternative forms === prēter (medieval) === Etymology === Continuing Proto-Italic *praiteros, from Proto-Indo-European *préh₂i (“before, across”) + *-teros (“contrastive suffix”). Equivalent to prae +‎ -ter. === Pronunciation === (Classical) IPA(key): /ˈprae̯.ter/, [ˈpräe̯t̪ɛr] (Ecclesiastical) IPA(key): /ˈpre.ter/, [ˈprɛːt̪er] === Preposition === praeter (+ accusative) past, by (of motion) besides, except Synonyms: praeterquam, nisi beyond more than ==== Descendants ==== → English: preter-, praeter-, præter- → Esperanto: preter === References === “praeter”, in...
Noun: praetor (plural praetors or praetores)
  1. (historical) The title designating a Roman administrative official whose role changed over time:
  2. (originally) A consul in command of the army.
  3. (after 366 BC) An annually-elected curule magistrate, subordinate to the consuls in provincial administration, and who performed some of their duties; numbering initially only one, later two (either of the praetor urbānus (“urban praetor”) or the praetor peregrīnus (“peregrine praetor”)), and eventually eighteen.
  4. (by extension) A high civic or administrative official, especially a chief magistrate or...
Noun: praeterition (usually uncountable, plural praeteritions)
  1. Alternative form of preterition
Noun: paralipsis (countable and uncountable, plural paraleipses)
  1. (rhetoric, linguistics) A figure of speech in which one pretends to ignore or omit something by actually mentioning it. [from 16th c.]
  2. Synonyms: apophasis, preterition1990, Camille Paglia, Sexual Personae:
  3. 2008, Alisa Lebow, First Person Jewish, p. 60:
  4. 2016, Slate, 2 November:
  5. paralipsis
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Apophasis prejackpot.
Adjective: irresolute (comparative more irresolute, superlative most irresolute)
  1. Undecided or unsure how to act.
  2. Indecisive or lacking in resolution.
  3. irresolute
  4. feminine plural of irresoluto
Adjective: irresoluble (comparative more irresoluble, superlative most irresoluble)
  1. difficult if not impossible to resolve; irresolvable
  2. irresoluble (plural irresolubles)
  3. irresoluble
How Do You Solve a Problem like Maria? was a British reality television talent show that documented the search for an undiscovered musical theatre performer to play the role of Maria von Trapp in the 2006 Peanuts and David Ian stage production of The Sound of Music.The series was originally devised by the then in-house development team at BBC Entertainment Events and was announced by the BBC in April 2006. BBC One broadcast the programme, which was hosted by Graham Norton, on Saturday evenings from 29 July through 16 September 2006. The title derives from the refrain of "Maria", a song from the...
 
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@Mitch That's the point of the film. Its beginning is funny but it's actually a tragedy.
 
6:01 PM
What's a good word for a bunch of drugs a patient takes on a regular basis, assuming there is one? Medicine or medication, but that doesn't really capture the sense of the difference between a one-off and a drug taken regularly for a longer period.
 
Daily meditation.
 
@FaheemMitha Drug regimen?
 
@CowperKettle Hmm, two words, but thank you for the suggestion. I don't believe I've used the word regimen recently, at least that I can recall.
 
I've been using the word regimen since my blindwormlike hobbledehoyhood, and it was ok.
 
The definitions on the internet fit my intended usage, so I'll use it. Thank you @CowperKettle.
@CowperKettle blindwormlike hobbledehoyhood?
 
6:06 PM
Hah
 
Wow, hobbledehoyhood is an actual word.
I must remember it for the next time I play Scrabble.
 
> Which creeps blindwormlike round the earth and ocean,
Distilling poison at each painful motion,
And seems condemned to circle ever thus.
 
Just kidding. I don't play Scrabble.
blindwormlike isn't an actual word, but I think I can guess its meaning.
@CowperKettle James Thomson. I thought it would be someone like Pope.
Is medication regimen better or worse than drug regimen?
 
The same
 
@CowperKettle OK
@CowperKettle BTW, were you just quoting random poetry, or was there some context?
 
6:31 PM
@FaheemMitha To illustrate the usage of blindwormlike :)
I remember that word from the poem
I memorized the first couple pages back in 2012
A great poem.
 
@CowperKettle Ah, I see. I suspect there are not too many usages of that particular word, though.
Anyway, blindwormlike is pretty self-explanatory, as I said already.
 
@FaheemMitha Treatment? (Suggested because I would say traitement in French.)
 
@jlliagre Just treatment or drug treatment? Because treatment is quite a general word. There could be a variety of treatments, some of them not drug related.
 
Il n'a pas pris son traitement implies drugs.
 
@jlliagre Oh. But not in English. Are you a native French speaker?
 
6:42 PM
100%
 
@jlliagre OK.
@jlliagre I would not have inferred from that sentence that drugs specifically were meant, but I'm not a French speaker.
 
7:05 PM
Well, the word pris would suggest medicine, for what other treatment can one 'take'?
 
@Cerberus One could conceivably take all sorts of treatment. A facial treatment, for example. But it sounds like pris has specifical medical connotations.
 
7:19 PM
@CowperKettle How many syllables does Dnipro have?
> From Ukrainian Дніпро́ (Dnipró) and earlier Днѣпръ (Dnipr), from Old East Slavic Дънѣпръ (Dŭněprŭ), from Proto-Slavic *Dъněprъ, from Scythian/Old Ossetic (Sarmatian) *Dānu Apara ("Far River") or *Dānapr (“Deep River”). The former derivation would pair it with the Dnister (“Near River”), while the latter would refer to its lack of fords. Doublet of Dnieper and Danasper.

As a city, originally a clipping of Dnipropetrovsk, formally adopted as the town's name in 2016 as part of general decommunization of placenames. Its oblast has not yet followed suit because it is mentioned by name in the
Does the initial Dn- get assimilated into just one of those? Is there an epenthetic vowel inserted between the two?
Is it co-articulated somehow?
This talks about paired consonants, but only word-finally:
This article deals with the phonology of the standard Ukrainian language. == Stress == Stress is phonemic in Ukrainian. With most Ukrainian nouns, the stress falls on either the final vowel of the stem or the initial vowel of the inflection. In a few nouns the stress may be further forward. The position is generally fixed for the various cases of the noun (though inflection stress shifts to the last vowel of the stem if the inflection is a zero suffix), but may change with number (stem stress in both singular and plural, e.g. теа́тр ~ теа́три 'theater'; stem stress in the singular and inflection...
 
8:00 PM
@FaheemMitha Yes, a traitement might imply non drugs, like reduce salt intake for hypertension, or eat fruits against scurvy but in that case we would say il n'a pas suivi son traitement.
or respecté.
 
8:31 PM
@jlliagre I understand. A different verb, then.
 
Talking about verbs:
:-)
 
8:48 PM
In some respects English is simpler. Of course, there is that crazy spelling.
@jlliagre Does French have 10 zillion idioms, some with multiple meanings, like English does?
 
@FaheemMitha I didn't count them all but possibly the same order of magnitude.
 
@jlliagre They would be hard to compare in number, I suppose.
 
Yes, that's often meaningless, like comparing the number of words in dictionaries.
 
I don't even know if a comprehensive list of English idioms exist. There are so many of them. And what defines an idiom is quite subjective.
For example, the British have "good on you". And similarly "well done you". Are those idioms?
 
Vachement bien is an idiom.
 
9:00 PM
One that seems relatively recent is "crack on". I don't recall hearing that pre-21st century. Also a British idiom.
 
9:13 PM
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Q: What does Let's "crack on" mean?

V.G.What does ‘crack on’ phrase means. I've heared it in following use cases. Boss is saying to us: 'Let's crack on' - and we start discussing projects. Man is discussing with sombody: 'We've cracked on with that girl' Can somebody explain it please.

 
@tchrist Let us never talk of this again.
 
Jul 16, 2022 at 1:17, by jlliagre
Si is from Sancte Iohannes but Sarah Glover wanted each note to start with a different letter.
 
@FaheemMitha Yeah it's hard. usually it means that the whole is different than the sum or parts, ie not literal. But at some point the collection of symbols represents the idiomatic meaning as its primary meaning. Like a dead metaphor.
I've always had trouble with people saying 'Once upon a time' is an idiom, Because it means to me 'This story I'm going to tell you happened'. Of course if I look at the individual words, I'm like 'OK yeah I guess that doesn't make sense -at all- putting those words together like that'.
@jlliagre Sarah Glover is a Ienius.
@jlliagre What about 'J'avais eu eu une voiture.'?
@jlliagre Oh sure. I just went in with not the most appropriate expectations.
 
9:33 PM
@jlliagre J’eus eu une voiture.
 
Exactement
 
Hardly.
Hardly had I just had a car but that its catalytic converter was ripped out of it by the local ruffians.
@Mitch Pretty sure there's some exotic French construction with too many of something had had hadding that you don't want to be using, but I don't think it's that and I'm sure you don't want to have had been caught hadding it.
 
@tchrist For real? I've heard about that going on lately around here too.
For all these petty crimes... who are the people that are the buyers? Seems like they're at quite a bit of fault here too.
 
The grammar, or ma voiture?
 
your voiture
 
9:38 PM
Is in my carriage.
I mean garage.
 
@tchrist Those issues I am very successful at avoiding.
Had I avoided subjunctivizing in the completed past, I.. would... have... had?... having? something something... be?
@tchrist they stole it while it was in your garage?
 
Some sort of super plus que plus que parfait with whipped cream and pistachio chips and a maraschino cherry that you can't even pronounce ma chérie.
@Mitch Just like you, the French often just punt in speech when the grammar gets too complicated to work out on the fly. :)
@Mitch No, I live in Boulder not Denver.
 
les cerises chères
 
That's them.
 
les cerises chères des chars
 
9:43 PM
of fire?
 
les cerises chères des choux-chars
 
Les cerises jubilé sont un dessert à base de cerises et de liqueur (généralement de kirsch) qui sont flambées et servies en tant que sauce ou avec une boule de glace à la vanille. On considère qu'il s'agit d'une invention du chef Auguste Escoffier qui a préparé ce dessert pour le jubilé de diamant de la reine Victoria en 1897. == Notes et références == Portail du dessert Portail de la cuisine française
 
les cerises sûrs et chères des choux-chars
les cerises sûres et chères des choux-chars de mes soeurs
 
What does that means ?
 
9:45 PM
Nothing.
 
danged if I know
 
He makes things up.
Please don't bring up the cabbages.
 
Should be Les cerises sûres
 
The sure and expensive cherries of my cabbage chariot of my sisters?
@jlliagre sure
 
His gender grasping is tenuous.
 
9:46 PM
I take that tenderly
 
They too easily slip from his grasp.
 
Should be sœurs too, but that's more subtle.
 
@jlliagre look man... i don't think my keyboard has that
 
Neither does mine.
 
aghast
 
9:48 PM
French keyboard is a fail.
 
You should just see him cry out for un œuf.
Murine snarf-n-barf always works.
And thus are new oaves every minute born.
 
@jlliagre fáilte!
 
Foxite?
 
Welcome
 
How kind!
 
9:51 PM
Dude just Opt-q and you have your œ!
 
@jlliagre So how do you get 'œ' instead of 'oe'?
 
I JUST TOLD YOU.
You can embiggen with a shift-opt-q: Œ.
 
@tchrist Thank you but there's a bit of context. For example I was responding directly to jl.
œ
look at that
 
ew
 
huh
 
9:52 PM
Tolja tolja tolja.
 
There's no way I'm going to remember that
 
Mirabile visu!
 
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I remembered -that-
hm
 
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¡There's hope!
 
9:53 PM
åß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬…æ
 
@Mitch I generally just use my browser autocorrect feature.
 
You need to learn to be more commanding.
Ω≈ç√∫˜µ≤≥÷
 
oeuf œuf
 
¡™£¢∞§¶•ªº–≠«
 
™£¢∞§¶•ªº––≠œ∑´®†¥¨ˆøπ“‘åß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬…æΩ≈ç√∫˜µ≤≥÷¿
 
9:54 PM
Et voilà.
Now do it again, this time with the shift key also depressed.
 
It took me the whole keyboard to get the upside down question mark
that's kind of a lot
 
Not if you're left-handed.
 
@jlliagre wha?
I feel like I'm living in the past
 
Old song.
 
Tommy used to work on the docks.
Now they have robots doing all the work.
@jlliagre My browser only tells me it's spelled wrong for an English word.
So all French is wrong
I have a racist browser
 
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