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12:12 AM
@M.A.R. Might some people think that God must have disfavoured him?
Meanwhile, Taiwanese parliament:
12:38 AM
@Cerberus Aren't fistfights actually a fairly regular occurrence there?
I don't know!
I'm just surprised at such a sight in a supposedly civilised country.
I've heard it's basically a tradition in Taiwan.
> Punching, hair pulling, throwing plastic bottles and water balloons, as well as splashing cups of water on the faces of rival party legislators are common scenes. Air-horns and filibustering - more like shouting - are also used to drown out one's opponents.
> 30 May 2006: Then opposition Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) legislator Wang Shu-hui snatched a written proposal and shoved it into her mouth to prevent voting on allowing direct transportation links with Mainland China.
Raccoon parliaments have this problem too.
Most odd.
I have tried to search for physical conflict in Dutch parliament, but I could not find it.
In your parliament?
Certainly not a common practice.
With one famous exception:
The caning of Charles Sumner, or the Brooks–Sumner Affair, occurred on May 22, 1856, in the United States Senate chamber, when Representative Preston Brooks, a pro-slavery Democrat from South Carolina, used a walking cane to attack Senator Charles Sumner, an abolitionist Republican from Massachusetts. The attack was in retaliation for an invective-laden speech given by Sumner two days earlier in which he fiercely criticized slaveholders, including pro-slavery South Carolina Senator Andrew Butler, a relative of Brooks. The beating nearly killed Sumner and contributed significantly to the country...
Using a weapon, even.
Nothing since then?
12:53 AM
This was just a year ago--I must've missed the news coverage, but it wasn't exactly a fistfight.
Before that, the last episode of violence in Congress was in 1985.
And before that, it was in 1902. So extremely rare.
Some more recent cases in state legislatures, though.
Hmm your Wiki page suggests otherwise?
Belgium, France, and the Netherlands are not on the page.
Those other more recent cases are from state legislatures, not from Congress
Either the Netherlands hasn't had any cases, or the victims have been beaten into silence /s
Well, I Googled for it and couldn't find anything.
How disappointing.
If a fight broke out in the State House, it'd at least be more productive than passing a bill nominating the official state donut, or whatever it is they do.
Our official state beverage is the only fruit juice that needs to have so much sugar added to be palatable that they also sell it in "diet, zero-sugar" form.
1:26 AM
Word of the day: comptroller. "A comptroller is someone who is in charge of the accounts of a business or a government department; used mainly in official titles." Usually pronounced as a homophone of controller, but spelled differently, for no obvious reason.
@Robusto Sure... But the sherbet!
@alphabet should we blame the French?
I think we should blame the French.
Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?
No! Blame Canada
@Mitch Etymonline: "a variant of controller, with bad spelling due to influence of unrelated French compte "an account," from Latin computare."
@alphabet so maybe the 'interesting' spelling was like 'debt' or 'island'.
Whatever. I blame the French, just for standing there while we take their words
@Mitch As I recall, someone once trolled IslamQA by asking if gay men get 72 virgin guys.
@Mitch The language is out of comptrol.
Remember: you can't spell "comptroller" without "troll."
1:33 AM
I'm afraid to open Twitter.
And a mail sent by a French guy from Strava. We've been having a communication via mail
A runner
And about a dozen of private messages in the VK social network.
@CowperKettle The French connection
I feel like my brain is not working, and thus I delay the opening of private messages, sometimes for days, sometimes for weeks. It got better since I started on methylfolate last September, but now and then it starts again.
And I have trouble initiating some action. I planned to exercise in translation, and do a short retelling of any kind of neuroscience news for my friend's blog, English to Russian. I planned to do it yesterday at 09:00, but it's today already, and I haven't started.
It must be somehow related to the fact that my translation speed decreased several-fold since November 2020.
@Cerberus People are pretty disgruntled and they may blame anyone for anything. But given that he and his cabinet have been an outlet for the fundamentalist nutters, not unlike Trump for white supremacists, very few people would think that, people that would feel he wasn't enough of a fundamentalist
I wonder if my recently-discovered lesion in the corpora quadrigemina may in any way relate to this, since it's on the right side, and I have these weird feelings in the left side of the body.
In the literature, tumors in that part of the brain usually present with headaches, when they block the cerebrospinal fluid channel.
@M.A.R. Hmm I see.
1:46 AM
There are extremely sparse reports of psychosis associated with that location.
@Cerberus Religious people, in their moments of despair, commonly express that they believe the correct version of Islam isn't being practiced. Maybe like communists and USSR. But it's hollow and not well thought out, they wouldn't know who to blame or what to change.
Sometimes it's not peaceful or tolerant enough, sometimes it's too peaceful and tolerant.
Seems like any religion is pliable to any use, since there are so many interpretations of any kind of scripture
@CowperKettle you need to find an expert and listen to what they say, and stop trying to interpret MRIs on your own
One might think some superstitious religious people could lost faith in the current government.
@M.A.R. I know, but after being treated for a non-existent diabetes for 23 years, with this 'diabetes' confirmed personally by Chief Endocrinologist of my city back in 2011, I don't believe any kinds of 'experts' I see here
My neurosurgeon says it's most likely an old area of gliosis, but how can I trust her.
I was treated for Crohn's disease and then I read up on it, I clearly did not have it.
1:54 AM
@CowperKettle something like hijab, for example, has been quite variable throughout the centuries, sometimes too modest and sometimes too forgiving. But mullahs are very clear that the laws are immutable. People are afraid of reconciling these two and reaching the conclusion that they're being lied to, because then who'd be there to guide them spiritually?
Experts here locally are.. of poor quality.
Otherwise the same people, in the same conversation, would be all too aware of the shortcomings of mullahs they know personally. IOW, the system must remain indisputable even when the individuals are fallible
I was discharged from the clinic last year with a diagnosis of irritable bowel syndrome, and I downloaded the latest and best recommendations - and voila, I clearly did not have IBS. When I confronted my doctor about this, she just invented a new subtype of IBS on-the-fly, to conform to my symptoms. I don't trust local doctors.
@Cerberus religious people are trapped in their own social circles, even online, and don't want to get free. They don't see any other alternatives, and obviously they will never be offered any until they try to get out of their comfort zone
@M.A.R. s/religious//g
1:58 AM
They have lost faith in 'the system'. But if you ask them who they blame? Khamenei? The presidents? They're too afraid. Or maybe they haven't even given it much thought.
So they resort to a typical response. Ahmedinejad or some other rotten apple, removed from power twice over, and distant enough to be safely denounced in history
@CowperKettle at the moment, if you ignore Palestine and Ukraine, it's all fun and games.
@M.A.R. Fear is a natural response to dangerous situations, especially those that are irrational.
Like Scarlett Johansen and the voice of ChatGPT7
Or the cat fight about eyelashes in Congress
You gotta follow the right people
2:01 AM
@Mitch All right, have it your way. It's all irrational.
@CowperKettle it's not that you can't self-diagnose if you don't read stuff on it, it's that you're very prone to missing the forest for the trees because you haven't had systematic (or close enough) education. It's also why I won't be as knowledgeable about diabetes as an endocrinologist even if I fully read and understand ADA's guidelines
I follow a lot of 'animals falling over's accounts and my mood is awesome.
@Mitch I missed that part
@M.A.R. I know
@Robusto at least I'm entertained
2:05 AM
When my stroke-like episode happened in 2010, I self-diagnosed with mitochondrial disease, but a low lactate reading and an absence of the most common mutation clearly negated that diagnosis.
I'll try to save up for a full-exome sequencing. That's some 60 thousand rubles.
There is little hope in local doctors.
@M.A.R. I'd link to it but that's too much work
. . .
Of course it's the Jew space lasers lunatic
@M.A.R. Out of curiosity, is Iranian media covering the Palestine protests in the US? One assumes it pits being reflexively anti-America against being violently anti-Israel.
@M.A.R. She speaks pretty boldly for someone who thinks their opponents have space lasers.
2:20 AM
@alphabet it does, with a huge emphasis on the arrests. The official line is that (1) Americans are hypocrites when they denounce us brutalizing protesters because they're doing the same thing, and (2) The American government is evil and will stop at nothing to oppress us, even at the expense of American citizens
Ok I just looked for some cat videos to share here and I couldn't find any
That's pretty depressing
The third possible take, that Americans are conscientious people that agree with the treatment of Palestinians being criminal, is glossed over.
@M.A.R. I can't tell what people think
The attitude is more like the minor villains (American citizens) cannot abide by the major villain's (the US government's) plans because they're so evil
Every evil family is evil in a different way.
2:25 AM
@Mitch maybe it's e-ville. Like a coffee shop with free internet
@M.A.R. The protesters would, of course, agree that the American government is hypocritical and evil and oppressive.
@M.A.R. I'm guessing they haven't discussed those "Queers for Palestine" people much.
@alphabet well, whataboutism makes for a very annoying stalemate. Besides, there's a huge difference between beating people up until they sustain permanent injury, then dumping them in vans and making them disappear for months, and arresting them and issuing some fines and expelling a student or two (which is still wrong of course)
I don't think Americans in general know enough about the situation to have a coherent view.
@Mitch what is there to know that Americans wouldn't?
I mean well informed people also don't have enough to have a coherent view.
@M.A.R. like which river and which sea is supposed to be free.
Basic stuff
2:32 AM
The bar for coherent views is ridiculously high about Ivs.P. Inaction is still a decision, and has cost both sides dearly
@M.A.R. Well, yeah, I don't think the American protesters see American police as just as bad as Iranian ones (actually...I'm sure you could find some who'd say that).
Of course, they aren't in trouble for protesting per se, they're in trouble for setting up giant tent encampments on private property and refusing to leave.
Getting bogged down in details and not enforcing, or at least suggesting any course of action has allowed the likes of Hamas to sieze the opportunity to make peace impossible
Presumably, in Iran the protesters get arrested before they get to set up all the tents and occupy the buildings.
@Mitch Neither side is particularly well-informed on this or any other issue. It doesn't help that historically the American media has been massively biased on this.
@Mitch I think the first step would always have been about preventing Israel from treating Palestinians like vermin to be exterminated. Political solutions have been impossible for as long as I remember because 1) they're not even popular among either of the peoples and 2) Palestinians recently haven't had people who they could call their representatives
There was some video where conservatives tried to embarrass protesters by asking "which river?" The students got it wrong, but (a) I don't think 90% of Americans could name that river and (b) the name of the river isn't particularly relevant.
2:38 AM
And after October, things will only deteriorate, so there really isn't much left to do for outside observers but to try to bargain for some restraint and a few more Palestinian lives.
@M.A.R. Indeed. I don't think that there exists any solution to the conflict that a majority on both sides will accept. The only reasonable option is to reduce the number of deaths in the meantime, and maybe stop sending one side an absurd amount of bombs.
@alphabet it never ceases to amaze me how unabashedly effortlessly evil "Tucker Carlson" Americans can be.
@M.A.R. Not evil, I think. Just deeply misinformed about Israeli history.
Arrogant in their ignorance then.
2:44 AM
At least when Iranians are like this, their excuse is they're not fluent at English
> The carnage and cruelty suffered by Israelis on Oct. 7 should have driven home the futility of sealing themselves off from Palestinians while subjecting them to daily humiliations and violence.
I'm not going to say that it was pointlessly age-restricted because of a secretive group trying to silence pro-Palestinian voices on social media, but there is a secretive group trying to silence pro-Palestinian voices on social media
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7:03 AM
Q: Why do we say "Comptroller" as well as "Controller"?

broguinnThe controller at my company recently said that she would only consider herself a comptroller if she did her job on behalf of a governmental or highly bureaucratic entity. the Online Etymology Dictionary lists comptroller as c. 1500, variant of controller, with bad spelling due to influence o...

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8:14 AM
@M.A.R. I've asked in a couple of places online, and got no answer, so I have only myself to rely upon, because local radiologists won't speak to me.
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9:46 AM
Mmmm tonkatsu
10:36 AM
@DannyuNDos Latin costa (rib) -> French Côte (rib) ➔ Côtelette (small rib) ➔ English Cutlet ➔ Japanese katsuretsukatsu (shortened form) ➔ tonkatsu (Pork cutlet).
Yeah, exactly.
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1:26 PM
@Mitch You're always entertained.
@jlliagre ➔ 豚カツ (You can tell it's a loan word because the katsu part カツ is written in katakana.)
豚 just means "pig" and as a standalone word it's buta. It only becomes ton in compounds.
1:44 PM
@Robusto ツ
My Japanese skills at their best.
2:12 PM
@jlliagre Still better than 99% of the population.
Wordle 1,067 3/6

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2:42 PM
Daily Octordle #848
Score: 60
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#WhenTaken #84 (21.05.2024)

I scored 921/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 692.0 metres - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 197 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 989 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 169 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 1162 km - 🗓️ 2 yrs - ⚡ 165 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 2 km - 🗓️ 6 yrs - ⚡ 193 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 999.7 metres - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 197 / 200

3:09 PM
@jlliagre I'll have to try this after my ride. But I think I'll have a tough time beating you.
3:21 PM
@Mitch Hmm a very long article, is there a message you wanted to convey?
4:15 PM
@Cerberus yeah, longer than expected. The message was: we were talking about homelessness in general, and I think I was saying (or thinking loudly) that homeless encampments should be tolerated, but I wasn't thinking it all the way through because the article shows a 'tolerated' encampment and, despite the story of one person who was murdered and also lived in such an encampment, living in such a place isn't great (especially in winter).
The murder story was set in the encampment, but that setting was not necessary for the story to be compelling.
And how they described the encampment was interesting. Also, Ithaca, the location of the settlements, is a very liberal college town in the middle of rust belt meth-addicted poverty.
It's a wonder they don't have cholera problems. (or maybe they do and haven't mentioned that)
@Mitch I suppose they must be tolerated until the state has managed to provide housing for everyone.
If they cause problems, though, then something must be done about that.
@Cerberus They mentioned the 'home first' strategy, which is to put people in permanent shelter first, and then try to deal with their other issues (drugs, mental health, jobs).
I don't know what the experience has been (what studies have been done) to show whether that or traditional 'treat the drugs/mental health/job' first strategy is better.
4:44 PM
@Mitch It is not either-or.
People deserve to have shelter from the weather, and physical safety.
Whether they are crazy or not.
So build cheap, 'temporary' container housing on the edge of the city as fast as possible.
5:20 PM
Q: Why did the Iranian president use an old American helicopter?

ArwenzWhy did the Iranian president use such an old helicopter, and for which, being American-made, there were difficulties in procuring spare parts? Why Iran is not buying new Chinese or Russian helicopters? Reuters reported on the 20th that Iran's state-run IRNA news agency reported that Raisi was r...

Found on AtlanticCouncil: "In 2022, Iran bought $2.12 billion worth of machinery from China, as well as $1.43 billion worth of electronics." That's enough money to buy some helicopters though. linkArwenz 20 hours ago
Old unmaintained American machinery is one of modern Iranian infrastructure's defining characteristics
@Cerberus I dunno what those were for but renovating choppers would be very far down the list
There are far more essential industries to dust up
We're having power outages more frequently and rumor is it's because of the horribly outdated power grid infrastructure
horribly outdated power grid infrastructure here as well.
5:38 PM
@M.A.R. But it's the government's own luxury toys!
Even the plumbing is falling apart in some places
Who cares, as long as the president has a nice helicopter?
@Cerberus Problem: nobody wants to live right next to that housing, and it isn't cheap if it has to meet the usual standards for fire safety, accessibility, etc.
@alphabet Lower the standards considerably, temporarily.
Anything is better than no housing.
As I said, put it on the edge of the city, far enough away from other houses.
5:53 PM
@Cerberus Here "the edge of the city" is full of suburbs that are usually much wealthier and more expensive than the city center, and even more hostile to such projects.
@alphabet Beyond the suburbs.
Wherever there is space.
Just give them a roof over their heads.
@Cerberus And those people will get jobs...where?
None of that matters.
They need to have a safe place to sleep.
I think many of them would rather be on the streets in the city than trapped in a shack an hour's drive away from anywhere.
That is not our problem.
The camp can be cleared if they have a reasonable place to stay.
6:03 PM
But they wouldn't have any way of finding a job that would let them move anywhere else.
They would.
You underestimate how rural those areas are.
Take public transport, work from home, drive a car, whatever it takes.
This is a city, not the countryside.
You said we should put people "beyond the suburbs."
Beyond the suburbs is the countryside.
No, it is attached to the city.
Wherever you would build the next suburb, there you reserve a small area for cheap housing for homeless people.
6:06 PM
Look at that map. See Boston on the right? Now see how far away you have to get for property values to start dropping.
There's nowhere to put another suburb.
There very much is.
Just as I said above, it's very simple.
Where exactly?
The land suitable for building good suburbs is already covered by good suburbs (except for a few dirt-poor areas where nobody wants to live).
Moreover, all those areas already have town governments; you'd need to persuade the existing residents, however few their numbers, to build affordable housing. This has been tried and it doesn't work out too well.
Random example.
Worst-case scenario: you build the temporary units where the shanty town is now currently.
@alphabet Dirt-poor areas are a great improvement over no housing.
You can build the new temporary housing in a many tiny areas. Just a few houses a piece, split them up.
6:29 PM
@Cerberus Can't say I know enough about Ithaca geography to comment on that specific plot of land, but it certainly qualifies as "rural."
Or rather the exurbs.
@Cerberus So, you raze the existing cheap very-low-quality housing, and replace it with cheaper even-worse-quality housing?
@alphabet None of that matters! Just give those people a damn roof over their heads!
@alphabet You speak in riddles.
Tonkatsu (豚カツ, とんかつ or トンカツ, pronounced [toŋkatsɯ]; "pork cutlet") is a Japanese dish that consists of a breaded, deep-fried pork cutlet. It involves coating slices of pork with panko (bread crumbs), and then frying them in oil. The two main types are fillet and loin. Tonkatsu is also the basis of other dishes such as katsukarē and katsudon. == Etymology == The word tonkatsu is a combination of the Sino-Japanese word ton (豚) meaning "pig", and katsu (カツ), which is a shortened form of katsuretsu (カツレツ), an old transliteration of the English word "cutlet", which was in turn adopted from the French...
6:54 PM
It appears from the forecast that the awful Boston summer weather has begun. It's 87 today; Thursday we get a lovely mixture of 82-degree heat and heavy thunderstorms.
7:13 PM
@alphabet Same here, except without the thunderstorms, the humidity, and the traffic.
87 F is 30 C
This is quite unpleasant.
@CowperKettle Not where I live it isn't. It's just fine.
Well, your dog's mileage may vary. Everybody here likes temps in the 80s.
For one thing, it doesn't hit 87 until late afternoon, when you're inside under A/C.
For another, mornings (when I ride) are just lovely.
7:40 PM
I second Cowp. 30 °C is hot. Not too hot, but hot enough that I'd like it to be cooler
7:52 PM
@M.A.R. Just sit in the shade.
87 isn't hot when there's no humidity.
It's fine.
But perhaps you're overdressed.
You may have to take off some body fat.
Of course if it's humid then even 67 is too hot, let alone 87.
I've got 55 here.
Humidity is 46%, so decent for Boston.
It's only 80 in Albuquerque. No belling-achin' allowed.
AT ELEVEN PERCENT HUMIDITY. So you may need a light jacket.
Of course tonight humidity goes up to 98%, but the temperature will have dropped by then.
Indoor pussycats.
IF the temperature and humidity together sum to less than to 100, you're fine.
8:06 PM
You know what I love? Installing window air conditioners. Just endless fun.
@tchrist 78 here at the moment.
This cool weather has brought in a flock of migrating ultra-colorful tanagers and orioles. It's an explosion of riches at the jelly-feeder.
Life tip: install your window A/C when someone you don't like is on the sidewalk below. Perfect plausible deniability.
8:27 PM
#WhenTaken #84 (21.05.2024)

I scored 920/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 442.4 metres - 🗓️ 6 yrs - ⚡ 193 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 777 km - 🗓️ 8 yrs - ⚡ 166 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 1156 km - 🗓️ 5 yrs - ⚡ 162 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 3 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 199 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 399.7 metres - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200

@jlliagre Almost tied ya.
@tchrist A house finch flew into our slider today while I was riding. My wife said she put it in the yard to let it recover. It hasn't yet. I'm skeptical that it will.
8:43 PM
@Robusto Google translates that sentence to Je t'ai presque attaché but that figurative meaning doesn't work in French :-)
8:54 PM
@jlliagre Yeah, I kinda thought it wouldn't. ^_^
9:05 PM
@tchrist It's 100% humidity here.
@Robusto 勝つ :-)
@jlliagre Better to say 勝った (ka'ta).
@Robusto I guess, but katsu was more on topic.
@jlliagre Past tense. You're not still winning.
@alphabet yeah there are a lot of issues that need to be dealt with like those you mention, jobs, location, transportation (the US just doesn't have that like @Cerberus expects)
9:11 PM
The characters are so small, smaller than emojis even, that I have to put them on a separate page and blow them up so I can see them.
It's like reforestation, yes, plant all sorts of things now. There will be problems with fires later (like in the sahel), but those can be planned for.
@Mitch The areas Cerberus was discussing--the exurbs--often lack such luxuries as municipal plumbing and functioning police forces.
#WhenTaken #84 (21.05.2024)

I scored 943/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 1 km - 🗓️ 2 yrs - ⚡ 198 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 350 km - 🗓️ 4 yrs - ⚡ 185 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 961 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 170 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 95.9 metres - 🗓️ 4 yrs - ⚡ 196 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 110 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 194 / 200
@alphabet Not to mention transportation and prime panhandling locations.
A couple of the years BENEFITTED from it being hard to hit an exact number in a cell phone. Usually, I try to round to the nearest 5.
10:22 PM
@alphabet another issue is that, at least in the US, there's a large number of homeless who are not loners, but are moms with kids.
I wonder who are the likely inhabitants of tent cities in places like Paris. I suppose people think they're mostly immigrants, but I don't know.
@alphabet Most American cities have areas within the city limits that are uninhabited (former buildings torn down, empty houses because of economic downturn).
eg large, multiple such areas in Detroit and Houston
But... all these American cities also have literal 'public housing' (not intended for the homeless but for low income), but the waiting list to get in is supposedly long.
To bring this being more on-topic... it's only recently come to my consciousness that there is a new preferred word for 'homeless' which is 'unhomed'.
I don't get it. There's still the word 'homelessness' which seems to be OK (it and 'unhomed' are used in the same sentence in that NYT article).
Also, the two words sound entirely identical, and I don't see the nuance that prefers the new one.
It's ripe for the euphemism treadmill.
Do people get upset at the word 'blind'? and prefer 'unsighted' or 'sight-impaired'.
10:44 PM
@Mitch I've heard "unhoused." The idea is that it shifts the blame onto society for not "housing" them. It seems like a rather reductive framing of the problem.
@Mitch Turns out there's a new form of affordable housing: nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna151750
I'm glad she moved out of that rooftop sign. Now a family of raccoons can put it to much better use.
We must talk about how exterminators have created a raccoon unhousedness crisis.
11:05 PM
@Mitch Well, you see, it's so much better to be "unhomed" than it is to be "homeless." It totally solves all the problems deriving from that social stigma of being homeless.
Euphemisms are the salvation of our society. Ignore them at your peril.
Many humans have also failed to properly maintain the raccoon apartments in their attics and crawl spaces, leading to serious issues with fire safety, ventilation, and a lack of air conditioning.
These days some sheds and garages are simply too unsafe for raising a litter of cubs.
@alphabet oops, yes, unhoused.

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