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Belorusian ruler Lukashenko forbade all firms to raise prices starting October 6
We talked about using Twitter...
@CowperKettle That will work.
> If we believe the Rosstat data, at the end of 2021, the households’ consumption finally reached the previous maximum recorded at the end of 2014, and in the first quarter of this year, exceeded it by 1.8%. (Sergei Alexashenko)
Putin manages to keep Russia's household consumption in the 2012-2014 range.
Thanks to all the millions of years during which massive amounts of organic matter accumulated in today's Siberia.
One wonders how reliable the data of Rosstat are, nowadays.
yes
> according to the regulator, in January-September 2022, retail sales of alcoholic beverages for April-September (statistics are collected quarterly, so there are no data for March) increased by 7.1% compared to the corresponding period last year, including sales of vodka by 6.2%.
> During April-September, Russian companies produced 58.2 million decaliters (dal) of vodka, an 8.8% increase over last year.
@Mitch I know that. I had a book "Introduction to the Ada language" at home in the late 1980s
The title of the book in Russian looked funny, because ada (ада) means "of hell". Ad is hell in Russian, and ada is hell in the Genitive case.
So "Yazyk programmirovania Ada" sounded like "The language of the programming of Hell"
Sounds comfy.
00:29
Two Russians reached the St. Laurens Island by boat, saying they were evading the draft
> According to Silook, the men told villagers they had sailed their boat from the city of Egvekinot in Northeastern Russia, approximately 300 miles by sea.
@CowperKettle Oh, Alaska?
Impressive.
@Cerberus I could argue that I don't want to sink to your level by using that vulgar swear word.
> DHS said the men came ashore "in a small boat on Tuesday" and had been flown to Anchorage, Alaska's largest city, for "vetting and screening".
@si-LV-er_and_b-LA-ck When you're reporting on something, it is more like a quotation. A word only has a certain meaning in context.
I will just mention it.
Use versus mention
00:41
Yes.
At any rate, if you just replace one letter or something, but people know what you mean, you are still using the word.
I'm only talking about speaking, sir.
If you pronounce it differently, you're still saying the same thing, conveying the same message, if any.
Especially the tone in which the swear word is used.
Yes, tone and context are extremely important.
Most notably the emphasis you put on it.
In speech
00:46
I don't like it that today people freely use swear words.
You take that away by saying "f word'
The "uck" sound is removed
UCK in writing
I went to the pond to feed the f-word-ing d-plural-word.
In this case, "uck" is removed twice.
lol
eef-ing ducks
@Robusto If we put the Coen brothers on a time machine, and ship them to Athens in 400 B.C., could they re-create this movie in a Greek theater?
00:54
@CowperKettle I wouldn't put it past them.
Would be interesting to watch.
@si-LV-er_and_b-LA-ck You don't, it's still the same word. Everyone knows which word you mean. And it's ugly.
Anyway, profanity is just one more tool in the self-expression toolbox.
I don't always use profanity, but I enjoy the freedom to use it when I feel it will help the communication.
I almost never use it.
That's just where you and I differ.
00:57
I hear it a lot.
Its like traffic noise.
So what do you say when you hit your thumb with a hammer or catch it in a closing door?
ouch
I don't need to honk like the horns around me.
I accidentally knocked a bottle of hot sauce off a pantry shelf today. It shattered on the floor. I let out a mighty "Son of a bitch!" and immediately felt better.
@si-LV-er_and_b-LA-ck No honking necessary.
> The Russian language teacher, when she jumped with a parachute for the first time, was shocked, surprised, extremely discouraged, but was shouting something completely different. (a Russian joke)
I once nearly severed my pinky finger trying to fix a garage door. I ran into the kitchen holding my injured hand and yelling "Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck!!" ... to see my mother-in-law standing in the middle of the kitchen, looking at me in puzzlement. "Oh, hi," I managed. "Can you hand me a towel, please?"
01:05
I had the tip of my finger nearly cut off by a huge pair of metal-cutting scissors during an arts-and-crafts lesson at school. The nail was black for a month.
And no profanity ensued?
I don't recall ))
On another occasion, there was the Star Wars on the TV on Sunday, and on Monday we started dueling on files at arts-and-crafts. It was cool, because when you duel on files, they produce sparks.
Like light sabres.
I feel an accident about to happen.
01:09
The teacher noticed us, and booted us out of the class.
I had to bring my parent to school, and then buy a new file.
Mar 6, 2013 at 19:32, by Robusto
I stole metallic sodium from the chem lab in high school, and used it for entertainment. A gram or so in a 1,000 ml graduate full of distilled water makes a great Roman candle.
Yes, sodium in water is great
@Robusto I would probably say, "goddammit cunt", now that I think of it, but in Dutch.
Both fairly mild terms.
@Cerberus What is that in Dutch?
I might need it if I ever go back to Amsterdam.
verdomme kut
godverdomme kut
(Google Translate)
01:12
@Robusto Godverdomme kut.
@CowperKettle Google is correct, for once!
verdomde Google heeft gelijk
I remember my mother sometimes swore like GVD, for godverdomme.
Only for that word.
Interjection: GVD
  1. Abbreviation of godverdomme.
In that way, she protected us from the word and we never knew what she meant and never learned it ever.
A huge success.
I'm sure you had an epiphany at some point. "Oh, so that's what she meant!"
01:22
I'm pretty sure I knew the term anyway.
It didn't work at all.
01:48
Little Devil no. 13 - a cute Soviet cartoon, with English subtitles
@CowperKettle Depending on what sort of craft they were sailing, that's a really long way in the open sea, and it's getting late in the season for it, too. Still, we shouldn't be surprised at asylum seekers knock knock knocking on Biden's north-door.
Any port in a storm.
@tchrist Yes, I was also amazed
Maybe they had a motor, and it was a large boat
I wonder how much gasoline one needs to cover 500 km in a motor boat
@Cerberus Or in Spanish. But it has become a bit rude in some dialects.
@tchrist Such things happen to objects.
What a translation.
> For example, a 150-horse engine will use about 15 gallons per hour.
02:02
@CowperKettle At least the regular motors in small craft can run on regular gasoline, not on marine gas oil / marine diesel oil.
@Cerberus Some gilipollas probably wrote it.
But will it all fit in a boat? 500 km is a lot.
It is.
> verga1
Del lat. virga 'vara'.

1. f. pene.

2. f. Arco de acero de la ballesta.

3. f. vara (‖ palo largo y delgado).

4. f. Tira de plomo con ranuras en los cantos, que sirve para asegurar los vidrios de las ventanas.

5. f. Mar. Percha labrada convenientemente, a la cual se asegura el grátil de una vela.

6. f. Ven. vergajo.

7. f. desus. vara (‖ rama delgada).

8. interj. vulg. El Salv., Méx. y Ven. U. para expresar sorpresa, protesta, disgusto o rechazo.
Especially on high seas.
On still water, in an old Soviet outboard motor boat, one can cover almost 100 km on 22 liters of gasoline.
22 liters being the standard gas tank on an old Soviet motor boat.
So it will take some 150 liters to cover 500 km.
At full sea?
02:05
No, the calculation is for lakes/rivers.
The waves can make a huge difference.
Yes, indeed.
It also depends on the engine, how deep it is.
But I found no calculation for seas ))
With a 'shallow' engine, you go very slowly on high waves.
02:06
@CowperKettle 40 gallons.
That's a lot of gas cans.
Or special spare tanks.
45 gallon fuel tank
There you go!
37 inches is about 1 meter
That might fit in a boat allright
About.
My brain leaps to 39.37" without looking it up.
So theoreticall it's possible at least.
02:09
Yes.
The Republican senators of Alaska were quicker to support the Russian asylum seekers on their border than I might have worried about. Good for them.
It's not usually the Republican way. I do think it's important here though.
@CowperKettle I'm never sure what other people know so I had to submit to "explaining things in the internet"
Do we know the size of this boat?
@Mitch Thank you for reflecting on the AI/neural network news! I find them interesting, but lack the knowledge.
They all say "sailed", too.
02:16
Maybe they had a sail.
After the mutiny on the Bounty, several men traveled 6,500 km on a ship's boat, and lost only a single man.
02:28
They had a better navigator.
@tchrist I think some people use sailing for motor boats, too?
Maybe? I honestly don't know. I don't have a whisker of maritime history in my blood.
> Of persons: To travel on water in a vessel propelled by the action of the wind upon sails; now often in extended sense, to travel on water in a vessel propelled by any means other than oars; to navigate a vessel in a specified direction.
Apparently it's been...watered down.
@tchrist Inflated.
Today is Putin's birthday
Aww.
#Worldle #259 1/6 (100%)
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03:02
> At the age of 16, Aaron Stark decided he wanted to commit a mass school shooting.
03:48
@tchrist After his ship mutinied and cast him and the men who remained loyal adrift in an open boat, Captain Bligh navigated the boat over 3,500 miles to a port in the Dutch East Indies. So yeah, 300 miles ain't that much.
 
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06:28
> About 50% of tanks currently serving in Ukraine were captured from Russia (UK estimate)
07:11
Wordle 475 4/6

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08:25
Wordle 475 X/6

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Godverdomme kut! I missed the only one in the set that made it to French...
🌎 Oct 7, 2022 🌍
🔥 1 | Avg. Guesses: 7.12
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More luck with #globle
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09:39
I wonder how soon it would be possible for an artificial neural network to ask questions on StackExchange and to actually understand answers and thus to learn
@CowperKettle It already does and even self-answers ! ;-)
Well, I'm not pretending it understands the questions or the answers.
@jlliagre Thank you, but there it seems like it answers its own questions
I thought about an AI that would ask questions, and humans would answer them.
Here's a description of StackRoboflow: stackroboflow.com/about/index.html
> Stack Roboflow uses a recurrent neural network to generate artificial questions about programming. It does this by using a language model that was trained on a subset of the questions asked on Stack Overflow, a community of coders helping other coders.
Interesting.
10:02
@CowperKettle It seems like it answers its own questions: Yes, that's what I meant with "it self-answers" ))
Looks cool, the author writes that he made it on a home computer.
So in 20 years' time, a laptop would be smarter than 99% of people?
Full-exome sequencing of a newborn's DNA, ready just 7 hours after birth genomeweb.com/sequencing/…
If it becomes cheap, it will solve a lot of issues. You could instantly diagnose a lot of conditions and prevent some.
 
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#Worldle #259 4/6 (100%)
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Wow, really fucked up that one.
Somehow that country always seems to include all its neighbors for me.
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#globle
Lousy showing.
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Poor showing all around. Not my day.
> It is impossible to watch Vladimir Putin’s arrogant invasion of Ukraine without being appalled by its savagery. Dead men and women strewn on the streets of Bucha, hands bound behind their backs. Russian soldiers raping women, sometimes in front of husbands or children. Russians seizing loot of every size, from cellphones to giant John Deere wheat-harvesting combines. And, again and again, testimony about torture: beatings, electric shocks, near suffocation with plastic bags.
> Most often, we find cruelty like this when human beings are divided by religion or ethnicity. Consider the Crusades, the Holocaust, the lynchings of thousands of Black Americans in the South, and, for that matter, the two recent Russian wars against the Muslim Chechens.
But both Russians and Ukrainians are white, Slavic, and, if religious, usually Orthodox Christians. In eastern Ukraine, many victims of Russian atrocities are native Russian speakers—as is the country’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky.
13:25
@CowperKettle That is a leap that, while reasonable to make out of the language that talks about AI, is entirely unbridgeable.
Or to take it another direction, computers, or rather the minimal electronic circuits available in your washing machine, are already insanely smarter than humans.
For their specific tasks.
eg just doing arithmetic you can give the circuit almost arbitrary length digits to multiply, nut humans would surely not be able to do them (at least without pen and paper, humans can barely do two digit multiplication).
What are "nut humans"?
Some kind of squirrel, perhaps?
Anyway, back to the other direction, atackroboflow is just taking a statistical approximation of the text of stackoverflow and creating syntactically not too weird remixings of things it has seen already and sort of interpolating (coming up with items not seen before but somewhere between instances that exist in the database).
@Robusto Squirrels are not as smart as they seem.
They bury their nuts in lots of places
We need AI squirrels.
But they don't remember the exact places they left them, they just bury in a lot of places and look for them in places they kind think they would have buried them in before.
Ask them.
The honest ones will tell you so.
You are soooo anti-squirrel. It's a form of speciesism.
13:34
@Robusto Squirrels are like rats but more nervous and cute bushy tails. But they also have fully functional digits.
When the revolution comes, it'll be the squirrels in charge
@Robusto We need to prepare and I'm pointing out the most obvious enemy
And yet you host squirrels in your back yard. How do you explain that?
Rats will be our only allies
@Robusto You don't know how I live
I should preface that with 'How dare you'
I know where you live there is a plenitude of squirrels.
Also, the chipmunks are the ones who run my backyard
I've been watching them
It stands to reason that you host squirrels.
13:36
They've been watching me too so it's a fair game
until I break out the warfarin
It's a crime to kill cute animals.
@Robusto The chipmunks are holding back the squirrels for the most part
@Robusto Says the squirrel-lover spits
So the chipmunks are on our side? What about Alvin?
Alvin? Fuck Alvin.
But Alvin is the funny one.
And cute.
And they all have cute voices.
13:38
That guy is a joke.
Uncle Tom-Alvin
Whoa whoa whoa ... next you'll be telling me that Chip 'n' Dale are jokes too.
sigh
Don't you read the newspaper?
I can't be the one to educate you
My newspaper cut the chipmunk section. Downsizing, I guess.
One little cute little rodent who sits on your knee and nibbles seed from your hand?
It'll be your entire hand next
@Robusto Oh... that's the squirrel lobby.
They bought out all the local newspapers
Have you looked at the crime section lately?
That's a conspiracy theory. Next you'll be telling me George Soros is behind the squirrel movement.
13:41
All chipmunk-on-squirrel crimes
@Robusto You've never noticed how that guy sits?
Open your eyes
La la la la la la la ... I can't hear you ... la la la la la la!
Oh cripes, don't bring Elmo into this
Besides, I have to get ready to ride. First dry day all week. So unusual for here.
To be continued.
Watch out for chipmunks on your ride.
Because they're watching out for you.
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16:36
> The Cheka, a domestic terror instrument to which Lenin granted unreviewable power to torture and kill, published an anthology of verses, including: “There is no greater joy, nor better music / Than the crunch of broken lives and bones.”
> Beevor writes, “They pulled ‘gloves’ off people’s hands, i.e., the skin, after soaking the hands in boiling water. … An old colonel was roasted alive in the furnace of a locomotive.”
The “ice statue” method of killing economized bullets: Water was poured over naked victims who were left outside to freeze solid. Or: “A short length of pipe was attached to the stomach of a victim. … A rat would be introduced into the pipe, and a fire was lit at the far end, forcing the rat to eat its way into the intestines of the prisoner to escape.”
I guess that's where Orwell got Winston Smith's final fear.
> After reading a Post report from Bucha, where Russian occupiers beheaded a man, then “burned his head and left it out for all to see.” After reading the Associated Press report on the 10 torture sites its reporters visited in Izyum after this Ukrainian city was liberated from Russian occupation. (“They beat him, over and over: Legs, arms, a hammer to the knees, all accompanied by furious diatribes against Ukraine.”) After reading the Wall Street Journal report from Izyum. (“Most of the 436 bodies had signs of violent death including gunshot wounds, broken limbs, bound hands and amputated
17:13
Thank you. 🙏
@Robusto It wasn't from any specific place that I'm aware of. But dislike of rats is very common and quite generic. In any case, that was an unfortunate scene, IMO. Its author agreed, calling it "vulgar".
18:41
How would one change the first part to make it read more like standard idiomatic English?
> Even at time when I typically brought my own food, I typically was going to lunch with colleagues in the canteen once or twice per week.
I'm specifically referring to the "at time" part.
Perhaps "Even on the days when..."?
@FaheemMitha Many different ways. One is just to leave out at time (NB: "at times" is how one would say that).
> Even when I brought my own food, I would typically lunch with colleagues in the canteen once or twice per week.
That is a better rendering.
@Robusto I was thinking of going with:
> Even at the times when I typically brought my own food, I typically was going to lunch with colleagues in the canteen once or twice per week.
@Robusto Your second part is certainly better and shorter.
Why do you need "typically"?
Probably a German speaker.
No, a Twain reader. ^_^
You don't want to be profligate with words. They can obscure your meaning and tire the reader.
18:52
@Robusto That qualification suggests that he or she didn't always bring his own food during the period described, but did most of the time.
@Robusto Generally agree. But tell that to Henry James.
@FaheemMitha If you absolutely need it, fine. But don't repeat it.
@Robusto I don't need it. But it was already in the sentence.
Well, don't repeat it.
And put it where I did. It works better there.
@Robusto I like the part about "digestible sustenance". As opposed to "indigestible sustenance"?
@Robusto OK, I went with your version.
> Number of words, 220-and the facts are all in.
19:00
Yup.
@FaheemMitha A wise policy.
LOL
@Robusto To be clear, I mean the author is probably a German speaker.
Just an educated guess.
Tried to submit the edit, but was informed that there was already a pending edit waiting for approval. I can't remember when that happened before.
@FaheemMitha Perhaps. Hard to tell.
What's the correct handling of:
> I am now quoting the sentence "This is a complete sentence."
Should there be an extra period at the end, or not?
19:17
Why?
The sentence is referring to itself.
This: "This is a complete sentence." is a complete sentence.
@si-LV-er_and_b-LA-ck Because the period at the end is terminating the enclosed, quoted sentence. Not the enclosing sentence.
Though having two periods at the end would undeniably look awkward.
You need a capital letter at the beginning of a sentence.
"This is a complete sentence.".
@FaheemMitha No.
@FaheemMitha Awkward, and improper style. Find me an instance of two such periods in a reputable publication.
19:33
There are plenty of reputable linguistic publications which will argue at length about the distinction between sense and reference; but, as Rob says, it is nonstandard.
Self-reference is a rabbit-hole Bertrand Russell opened up with these kinds of questions.
Standard practice is to rely on a single punctuation mark. In case a sentence continues on after an enclosed complete sentence, use a comma in place of a period; if it's a question or exclamation, it is fine to use one of those marks.
He looked at me with hate in his eyes: "Stop and you're dead," he said.
He looked at me with hate in his eyes: "Stop and you're dead!" he shouted.
He looked at me with hate in his eyes: "And why shouldn't I kill you?" he mused, almost to himself.
19:50
@Robusto OK.
@Robusto Well, that's a cheery selection.
@Robusto Also "Stop or you're dead" would make more sense.
I just wanted to get your attention.
@si-LV-er_and_b-LA-ck Yes, I used one, didn't I? And how is that relevant?
@FaheemMitha Depends on the circumstances. But more than likely you're right. I wasn't thinking about that particular detail, only the punctuation.
@Robusto You had it regardless.
I'm joking with you.
19:55
@FaheemMitha what is the context?
42 mins ago, by Faheem Mitha
> I am now quoting the sentence "This is a complete sentence."
I am now quoting the sentence: "This is a complete sentence."
that^ looks ok to me
@si-LV-er_and_b-LA-ck You only added a colon.
Yup,
a colon makes it a list
@si-LV-er_and_b-LA-ck Yes, that was the context. As you can see, I started the sentences with capital letters.
 
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22:08
@Cerberus it really has nothing to do with "superstition," sir.
What I am talking about is using a swear word as a "weapon" to hurt someone's feelings or to make them angry during a verbal confrontation.
The victim or target of the swear word doesn't have to repeat the vulgarity back to the "attacker."

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