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Robusto
Robusto
00:07
@jlliagre Excellent deduction.
 
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Robusto
Robusto
02:03
Mr. Rogers giving the middle finger - “Where is Thumbkin” song
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Is nothing sacred?
 
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Vikas
Vikas
03:25
#Worldle #160 4/6 (100%)
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
04:04
> In May 2022, production of cars in Russia was 96.7% lower than in May 2021 (state information agency Interfax) interfax.ru/business/849572
> In May, only 3.7 thousand cars were produced in the Russian Federation, which is 5.3 times (81.3%) less than in April of this year.
> The production of internal combustion engines for cars in May fell 2.3 times y/y (by 57%), to 11.4 thousand units (-13.4% compared to April 2022).
The output will rebound, it will be interesting to see how fast.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
04:53
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> In two weeks, the $10 billion James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) — NASA’s super expensive, super powerful deep space optical imager — will release its first full-color images
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
05:11
Sales of household equipment and consumer electronics in June 2022 in largest Moscow stores are down 48% y/y retail.ru/news/…
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
05:32
Word of the day: tank top (It is named after tank suits, one-piece bathing suits of the 1920s worn in tanks or swimming pools)
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> cat fish, Iran, 16th century
twitter.com/WeirdMedieval/status/1542113137616363522
> From a Persian translation of Al-Qazwīnī 's The Wonders of Creation
Zakariya al-Qazwini
Zakariyya' al-Qazwini (full name: Abū Yaḥyā Zakariyyāʾ ibn Muḥammad ibn Maḥmūd al-Qazwīnī, Arabic: أبو يحيى زكرياء بن محمد بن محمود القزويني), also known as Qazvini (Persian: قزوینی), born c. 1203 in Qazvin (Iran) and died 1283, was a Persian cosmographer and geographer of Arab ancestry.He belonged to a family of jurists originally descended from Anas bin Malik (a companion of the Islamic prophet Muhammad) which had been well established in Qazvin long before al-Qazwini was born.His most famous work is the ʿAjāʾib al-makhlūqāt wa-gharāʾib al-mawjūdāt (lit. 'Wonders of the Creation and Uniqu...
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
05:55
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Vikas
Vikas
06:52
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Wow
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+37°C in Ellenabad
Vikas
Vikas
Yeah. Sunlight isn't that strong but still feeling like worst days of this summer.
Hopefully today is last day of this humidity. With the end of June.
Today or tomorrow there should be rain.
jlliagre
jlliagre
07:52
@CowperKettle Eslovenia argentina?
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
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Russian-made replacement of Twix
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
08:19
> In April 2022, real wages in Russia decreased by 7.2%, the highest monthly fall since December 2015, says the state statistics agency Rosstat rbc.ru/economics/29/06/2022/62bc8d639a79473839c1eff6
> Annualized inflation in April was 17,83%, the biggest value since January 2002, twenty years ago.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
08:47
She Spent a Decade Writing Fake Russian History. Wikipedia Just Noticed. A Chinese woman created over 200 fictional articles on Chinese Wikipedia, writing millions of words of imagined history that went unnoticed for more than 10 years. sixthtone.com/news/1010653/…
> The footnote supporting a passage on medieval mining methods referred to an academic paper on automated mining in the 21st century. Eventually, he realized that there was no such thing as the great silver mine of Kashin (which is an entirely real town in Tver Oblast, Russia). Yifan had uncovered one of the largest hoaxes in Wikipedia’s history.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
09:05
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News flash from the Russian Ministry of Defence. The Russian troops stationed on the Snake Island have been withdrawn as a gesture of good will.
Vikas
Vikas
09:38
It could be related to Kaliningrad?
Vikas
Vikas
10:04
It rained a bit in the sun. It will only increase humidity.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
@Vikas We are having a beautiful weather, +19°C, sunny with some clouds
Vikas
Vikas
Nice.
What weather apps you use? I just uninstalled accuweather. It doesn't update on time. It is showing no rain in my area. If I search nearby area, it is more accurate.
I'm using Microsoft weather now.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
I just google
Vikas
Vikas
Ok. weather.com
They also have an app. But too many ads.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
10:27
In breaking news, sadly, the Nazis managed to bring down the Maharashtra Govt. This wasn't surprising, but still unfortunate. And it wasn't good, but with the Nazis in charge at the state level, it will most likely get worse.
I was hoping the current coalition govt would serve out its term. And this is at least the second time they've tried to bring down this govt. Maybe more than that.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
10:55
At least you have democracy and elections. With this, change is possible.
 
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Robusto
Robusto
12:09
#Worldle #160 1/6 (100%)
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https://worldle.teuteuf.fr
Easy because they just had this one a few days ago.
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Wordle 376 6/6

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Wow. Not easy at all.
Robusto
Robusto
13:01
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Clear skies are back!
jlliagre
jlliagre
#Worldle #160 X/6 (46%)
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I excluded the correct answer because I wrongly thought it wouldn't reappear so quickly... I chose random locations I had no clue about. Not a good strategy.
Robusto
Robusto
@jlliagre You shoulda looked at my hint, above.
jlliagre
jlliagre
Too late, I had already played when you wrote it.
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Robusto
Robusto
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For anyone who doesn't know what a virga is, this appears to be an example. I still can't believe this friend schlepped a camera kit with multiple lenses all the way up the crest.
I suppose the rain could be hitting the ground.
hard to tell from that photo.
@jlliagre You need more coffee.
tchrist
tchrist
@Robusto I never thought of using virga as a count nount.
Robusto
Robusto
13:15
> In meteorology, a virga, also called a dry storm, is an observable streak or shaft of precipitation falling from a cloud that evaporates or sublimates before reaching the ground.
@tchrist Heh, count nount is working hard to make a rhyme. ;)
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@CowperKettle I wouldn't call what we have democracy. Elections, yes. And change is possible everywhere.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
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Change is possible, but after a country has fallen into a totalitarian black hole, change is bloody.
user4539917
user4539917
13:45
Before you decide to watch the world cup this winter; perhaps, browse this article.
Human rights in Qatar
The state of human rights in Qatar is a concern for several non-governmental organisations, such as Human Rights Watch, which reported in 2012 that hundreds of thousands of mostly South Asian migrant workers in construction in Qatar risk serious exploitation and abuse, sometimes amounting to forced labour. Awareness grew internationally after Qatar's selection to stage the 2022 World Cup, and some reforms have since taken place, including two sweeping changes in 2020. Domestic servants, who are often poor women from South-east Asian countries, have few rights, and can become victims of huma...
user4539917
user4539917
13:59
Revealed: 6,500 migrant workers have died in Qatar since World Cup awarded
Vikas
Vikas
14:53
I watch only Cricket.
user4539917
user4539917
Are you going to watch the T20 world cup?
Vikas
Vikas
@user4539917 Yes! And next year 50-50 WC
user4539917
user4539917
Coolio
Vikas
Vikas
Do you watch too?
user4539917
user4539917
I try.
Vikas
Vikas
14:57
OK. Are you from cricket playing nation?
user4539917
user4539917
nope
Vikas
Vikas
Cool
I tried watching football but never worked for me.
user4539917
user4539917
There's a cricket chatroom.
Vikas
Vikas
Yeah I know
Mitch
Mitch
@CowperKettle I do not remember them. Who are they?
Vikas
Vikas
15:03
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user4539917
user4539917
Mongolian wrestling? lol
Vikas
Vikas
Sadly India Pakistan don't play with each other. Except WC.
Mitch
Mitch
I wouldn't laugh until you've wrestled a Mongolian
user4539917
user4539917
True dat.
Mitch
Mitch
Football is a big deal in the US, but I'd bet basketball and baseball are pretty close to being nearly as popular number-wise
I watch only Superbowl ads
user4539917
user4539917
15:07
@Vikas do they ever have riots at the games?
Mitch
Mitch
@user4539917 That's the most popular sport in Europe. Riots after soccer games
There all these movies in Iran about women dressing up like men so they can go see a soccer match. But in other countries where there's no rules about it, women are smart and don't go at all.
user4539917
user4539917
There will be no rioting in Qatar.
Mitch
Mitch
Too hot to riot
user4539917
user4539917
👍🏼
The Q without the u hurts my eyes
Vikas
Vikas
@user4539917 No. I believe most people enjoy it because it. It's top rivalry. But some people might post on Twitter like boycott this boycott that.
During World Cups, there are not riots or protests even on social media. There are only memes XD
Depending on who wins or loses.
user4539917
user4539917
15:14
Coolio
Vikas
Vikas
But fans get too emotional during world cup matches. They post hate content on Twitter when their team loses or a player doesn't perform.
Mitch
Mitch
or corrupt refs
they're so obviously bought
user4539917
user4539917
It was a sad day when they actually admitted to it in the NBA.
Mitch
Mitch 
:61485248 > grep -e "[Qq][^u]" /usr/share/dict/words
Iraqi
Iraqian
Louiqa
miqra
qasida
qere
qeri
qintar
Qoheleth
qoph
Saqib
zaqqum
OK that's weird... Qatar isn't in the word list
But neither is Iraq. But Canada is. Something is going on.
The ref for the linux dictionary was bought
user4539917
user4539917
zaqqum? 🤯
Mitch
Mitch
15:20
@user4539917 I only recognize Iraqi, Iraqian (wait...what?), and qoph. all the rest I've never seen ever and couldn't tell you anything about them
Louiqa?
They just made that up!
user4539917
user4539917
yeah, looks like the fix is in
user4539917
user4539917
15:32
Wow! TIL George C. Scott was the first actor to decline the academy award.
Mitch
Mitch
not .. that other guy... ?
Marlon Brando?
What was Scott's excuse?
user4539917
user4539917
Brando was second
Mitch
Mitch
There needs to be a ranking
user4539917
user4539917
He said actors shouldn't compete
Mitch
Mitch
I have a question for ELU but I would probably probably vote to close it.
@user4539917 Oh. That's very... principled?
Cerberus
Cerberus
15:37
@Mitch This is exactly the problem of ELU...
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus So here's my... well not my question exactly but the thing I'm thinking about.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Closed!!
Sorry, you were too late and A. passed by.
user4539917
user4539917
Over competition kills web sites
Mitch
Mitch
So recently (past 5 years) one of the AAE-isms (slang that's popped up out of African American English) is the term 'finna'.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yeah and intolerance.
Mitch
Mitch
15:39
As in "I'm finna to go to the convenience store. Want anything?"
meaning "I plan on going soon"
So here's the opinionated part. I had never heard of this before and it looked so ... alien... like where could this word possibly have come from. (I'd never heard it out loud by anybody nor read it)
Cerberus
Cerberus
Etymology?
I'm finally going to?
Mitch
Mitch
But then someone wrote that it comes from 'fixing to'
as in "I'm fixing to go to the convenience store"
Cerberus
Cerberus
Ah.
Mitch
Mitch
which is -very- natural to hear, but I would probably never say it it's way too hillbilly sounding.
And then I realized 'finna' is an misleading spelling to me. If they had written it 'fitna' I would have been like yeah what's the big deal it means 'you're about to' kinda like slurring through 'fixing to"
'fitna' is just eye-dialect for /fi? nə/
user4539917
user4539917
I was just going to say that this needs the underlying intonation pattern to work :-)
Mitch
Mitch
15:45
I mean to a hearer it might be indistinguishable from /fi nə/
user4539917
user4539917
We need audio chatrooms like discord
Mitch
Mitch
@user4539917 Right. It's like a caught-cot merger I can hear clear as a bell and I could IPA the shit out of that, but it's pretty dang subtle. Like how do speech therapists get a deaf person to distinguish those. fractions of a millimeter tongue position difference.
So it's not a question at all.
Simply that everybody is dumb and I should get credit for pointing it out.
That's why I would close it.
God what a jerk
@user4539917 do those get transcripted or is it just you hear it while you're there but if you're not it's gone?
user4539917
user4539917
Speech therapist's are required to have infinite patience
@Mitch The latter case.
Mitch
Mitch
@user4539917 so sort of like 'Clubhouse' but you don't have to pay?
user4539917
user4539917
Yup
Check it out
Mitch
Mitch
15:54
@user4539917 They also kind of have to be ... uh...
well
not exactly racist
but
elitist
user4539917
user4539917
sometimes
Mitch
Mitch
Kind of like any language teacher, they bascially know what's right and what's wrong.
prescriptivist
@user4539917 Discord is like every possible menu from every existing restaurant plus all the restaurants that could possibly exist
how does anybody find a 'place'?
oh
shooting video games
wait
user4539917
user4539917
@Mitch Encouraging a fish to climb a tree is not easy
Mitch
Mitch
@user4539917 wow
wait
who's the fish?
user4539917
user4539917
The learner.
Mitch
Mitch
15:58
They're just not doing it right
no don't use that fin...
OMG
fins don't work
also the fish is now dead
what if we put the tree underwater?
user4539917
user4539917
good idea
Mitch
Mitch
the fish could go straight to the top. no problem.
but all the usual tree climbers have drowned
user4539917
user4539917
That's their problem
Mitch
Mitch
to bring this back to reality, at what time in evolution did fish start to come on land, and similarly when did trees happen in evolution?
This is a great question because both the word 'tree' and 'fish' are labels for a group of things that do not form categories.
user4539917
user4539917
Putting the tree under water is like continuing to think in your mother tongue while learning a foreign language, no?
Mitch
Mitch
16:02
eg a hagfish and a salmon are both called fish, but a salmon is more closely related to a human than a hagfish
And a palm tree and an oak are both called trees, but an oak and an orchid are more closely related than to a palm
@user4539917 Yeah. It's like it's easier to understand another learner than it is to understand the native speaker teacher.
user4539917
user4539917
Yup, the accent issue disappears.
(underwater with other fish :)
My point is never judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree 🧐
Mitch
Mitch
16:46
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17:56
Hey, hi. Do you find it typical or acceptable to use the verb to diss with an abstract notion? Maybe a bit like you would with to bash ie. they bashed my ideas? Merriam has it with wardrobe. merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diss
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4469766572736974C3A9
18:06
@Mitch Thanks that was very interesting. And troubling.
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
18:47
@CowperKettle: This is what Indian "democracy" looks like. This wouldn't be out of place in a Kafka novel.
thewire.in/rights/…
For people who can't be bothered to go through the link, India's Supreme Court, after dismissing a petition for justice, directed that the people bringing the petitioner should be arrested. So they were. No, I'm making this up. I wish I was.
> Separately, several lawyers have also condemned the Supreme Court, which said, while dismissing the plea of Zakia Jafri, that “all those involved in such abuse of process, need to be in the dock and proceeded with in accordance with law”.
From the article.
twitter.com/gautambhatia88/status/…
> Indian SC's contribution to global jurisprudence is to decide an individual vs State case by telling the State to arrest the individual.

A remarkable constitutional innovation.
Robusto
Robusto
19:27
> Your connection is not private
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Guess I won't try today's Redactle.
Robusto
Robusto
19:42
Wordle (ES) #175 3/6

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Robusto
Robusto
20:40
@Mitch That would be my supposition.
Hillbilly dialect and AAE have a lot in common.
 
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jlliagre
jlliagre
21:48
@Robusto The site owner forgot to renew its certificate, not a significant risk given the interaction we have with it but I didn't start today's game anyway. The color theme changed to a pure black and white page and hurts too much the eyes to be playable. I also gave up with the previous one after 460 attempts... I only guessed the first title word. Now that I know the solution, I feel stupid...
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Cerberus
Cerberus
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I wonder why southern Alaska is so much colder than northern Russia.
Oceanic streams?
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto Have you seen '1883'? There's lots of southern/country-western/hillbilly accents in there.
There's one African-American but his accent is hard to pin down. He does the 'bird->boid' change which is typical of ... some one particular Southern accent but I can't remember which one.
But yeah, th-fronting (th->f, eg brother->bruvver), some monophthongization of ai (/aj/->/a/, eg "I'm gonna"->"Ah'm gonna"
@Cerberus I read the map as the Aleutians (the southern part of Alaska) is too cold to have trees.
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Mitch Err yes, that's what I meant: I said it the wrong way around, sorry.
Colder!
Southern Alaska is much farther away from the North Pole than northern Russia. And the former should have a sea climate.
Mitch
Mitch
yeah
Cerberus
Cerberus
And yet it appears to be far colder.
Mitch
Mitch
22:02
it does ask for an explanation
Cerberus
Cerberus
I demand an explanation!
All I can think of is streams.
Mitch
Mitch
I am willfully withholding one. I'm just not going to tell you
Cerberus
Cerberus
You can see that the polar ice also extends farther towards Alaska.
But not by that much.
Mitch
Mitch
@Cerberus one explanation for change in biome is rain shadow, a mountain range 'stopping' humidity from cross over, so that one side has rich vegetation and the other side sparse.
but like you said, it should be oceanic
but then also why is Greenland so desolate?
Cerberus
Cerberus
Right, mountains can block stuff.
Mitch
Mitch
22:04
I think the more noticeable thing is why is so much of Canada is treeless
Hey I though most of Siberia was treeless taiga.
I guess not?
Cerberus
Cerberus
But consider how the coastal regions near the strait between Alaska and Russia are colder than the mountainous areas deeper inside Alaska.
@Mitch Yeah I wonder about southern Greenland, too.
But southern Alaska looks the weirdest.
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto There's one main character (actually also the narrator) who speaks a very poncy (is that a word) Southern accent. Totally inappropriate sociologically (she was raised in Tennessee by parents played by TimMcGraw and Faith Hill who speak their regular accent (modern Mississippi and Missouri). But the daughter's accent could well be accurate but still sounds a bit too 'Gone With The Wind'.
@Cerberus I'm not going to tell you why. You have to figure it out yourself. It's pretty obvious.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Waah!
Mitch
Mitch
haha I really have no idea.
I still feel like the Gulf Stream from the Gulf of Mexico just can't explain all the things it is used to explain.
@jlliagre OMG I thought the gray theme was awful. But this black and white is terrible.
@Cerberus I'm not sure I trust that map. It shows the north part of Norway/Sweden/Finland as trees all the way up to the northernmost. And from what little I know of there from National Geographic Specials on the Saami and reindeer and such from 50 years ago, there were no trees there.
Maybe they've grown since?
Maybe the snow covers what are very short trees?
Cerberus
Cerberus
I read that the tree line can shift hundreds of metres yearly.
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Other maps show a similar tree line in Lapland.
Mitch
Mitch
22:25
@Cerberus Yes (I've been hunting too) but...
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The red line is a temperature line and the green line is the tree line.
and that matches my vague memories better.
so I think it is the correct one.
haha
no seriously
but hey Iceland has trees all over?
Cerberus
Cerberus
Perhaps there are different definitions?
Mitch
Mitch
They have some splaining to do
@Cerberus argh. Science.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Oh, well, it will be in a different place soon anyway.
Mitch
Mitch
-or- people are taking the red line )which I think seems to match the other maps) as the treeline
@Cerberus yeah. the permafrost is melting.
 
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Robusto
Robusto
23:50
@Mitch No. The Red Line goes out to Porter Square. The Green Line goes to Fenway Park.

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