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Cerberus
Cerberus
00:03
@WhoSaveMeSaveEntireWorld The zoomed-out meaning seems to be the same, yes.
@CowperKettle That is very cool. Even though I'm not into dogs.
@Mitch I think you're pretty close already!
@Man_From_India Oh, what is it?
@tchrist We all know Pakistan, and especially the ISI, are the most terrible and destructive force in Afghanistan. But I'm not sure what you are telling me.
Man_From_India
Man_From_India
@Cerberus in BNC I found almost no hit for "objective is/waa verb+ing". Only a few when we have a modifier before "objective" like "primary/main" etc.
 
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tchrist
tchrist
02:28
At his rally in Alabama on Saturday night, Donald Trump heard the unusual sound of booing and jeering aimed his way, after he told supporters: “I recommend taking the vaccines.”
Wow, their messiah actually did the right thing for once but his minions are still rejecting it even coming from him, and actually jeering him for it.
@Robusto ^^^^ Cue Dorothy Parker horticultural joke.
But this one blew it:
> “I’m told that my infection was brief and mild because of the vaccination that I received,” Greg Abbot said, in a video posted to Twitter. “So I encourage others who have not yet received the vaccination to consider getting one.”
No. Not "consider" you buffoon. Tell them to get it, not to consider it.
Robusto
Robusto
02:57
@tchrist You can lead a whore to culture ...
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
04:20
> No ships called at the islands from 1909 until 1919, when HMS Yarmouth finally stopped to inform the islanders of the outcome of World War I.
Tristan da Cunha
Tristan da Cunha (), colloquially Tristan, is a remote group of volcanic islands in the south Atlantic Ocean. It is the most remote inhabited archipelago in the world, lying approximately 1,732 miles (2,787 km) off the coast of Cape Town in South Africa, 1,514 miles (2,437 km) from Saint Helena and 2,487 miles (4,002 km) off the coast of the Falkland Islands. These distances equate respectively to 1,505, 1,316 and 2,161 nautical miles. The territory consists of the inhabited island, Tristan da Cunha, which has a diameter of roughly 11 kilometres (6.8 mi) and an area of 98 square kilometres (38...
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
04:33
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S.M.T
S.M.T
05:37
@CowperKettle @Cerberus @reith The war has broken out in panjshir now
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
09:25
It is +35.2°C, another all-time high.
It has only reached +33C in 1923 on this day. e1.ru/text/summer/2021/08/23/70093712
A record-hot summer for Yekaterinburg, again.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
10:02
The heat wave will now move to the east from Yekaterinburg. Because of this, the Novosibirsk Oblast has just issued an emergency warning, expecting temperatures to overshoot the 30C mark. tayga.info/170856
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
10:12
I have a financial terminology question - not sure if this is a suitable forum.
I'm working on my taxes. I need a term for money that is earned by something other than capital gains, which are treated differently in India for the purposes of taxation.
American terminology is "ordinary income". I might use that if I can't find anything else. Any other suggestions?
Oh, and would such a question be suitable for the main site?
To be clear, here ordinary income is income that is earned separately from capital gains.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
10:28
@FaheemMitha Maybe it could be asked on Personal Finances?
Personal Finance & Money
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
@FaheemMitha difficult to be sure. It's single word request, so if you follow the rules for that it should be allowed, but there might be people who think it should be asked somewhere like Personal Finance & Money
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
Neuroscientists find brain matter makeup at birth is linked to children's degree of language skills at five years old
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@CowperKettle @MattE.Эллен Yes, I was wondering about Money SE too.
Would it definitely be on topic on Money SE?
Terminology questions don't seem like a particularly good fit. I can't remember ever seeing one there. Let me check what the scope says.
money.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic isn't particularly helpful.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
It might be relevant to bookkeeping
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
> Taxes as they pertain to an individual's return
seems like the best fit.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
10:33
or that
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@MattE.Эллен Yes, maybe bookkeeping too.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
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Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
@FaheemMitha Personally I would like to think it's on topic here, but I can't predict the whims of the user base
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@MattE.Эллен Here as in ELU?
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
yes
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
10:34
OK, I'll consider posting a question. Thank you.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
no problem!
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@MattE.Эллен Is migrating from ELU to Money SE an option? Or would I have to create a fresh question there if it didn't work here?
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
@FaheemMitha If it gets closed at EL&U you can flag it for migration to money and a moderator can do it
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@MattE.Эллен OK. That would work. Thanks again.
Matt E. Эллен
Matt E. Эллен
you're welcome
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
11:35
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
12:21
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tchrist
tchrist
13:19
@CowperKettle Wudja pleaz esplain why formerly respectable publishers now write gonna in I-dialick instead of writing the correct going to? [sic, sic, and even more sic]
It's like the ill-lettered are forever vomiting sic.
And no, I can't post it as an ELU question. The yumer would be lost.
> Orgun docters make emoshunal plee to the unvaxinated: ‘We cannot keep fiting this fite without cher help’
Life in Orgun is sher tuff fer a norvern state.
Neyow Midul Inglish, here we cum!
Let's just call it Muddle English.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
13:51
@tchrist Maybe cause it's shorter
cacodemon rhapsody
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tchrist
tchrist
14:52
@CowperKettle You know, you may well be on to something there. Newspaper editors are forever trying to shorten things up by dropping as much as they think they can get away with. This started forever ago due to the price of newsprint, and even though that doesn't make sense any longer in digital-only media, old instincts never die out.
 
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Who Save Me Save Entire World
Who Save Me Save Entire World
16:02
@Cerberus Thanks.
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
16:34
@tchrist Twitter has a limit to message length, although it was upped some time ago
CowperKettle
CowperKettle
17:12
First of its kind study found aggression in US couples saw a 6- to 8-fold increase during the pandemic.
 
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CowperKettle
CowperKettle
19:21
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Xanne
Xanne
21:39
@tchrist @CowperKettle Maybe there is a more profound change going on here, as the ill-lettered write vast amounts on social platforms not in Standard Written English but as they speak, not only to be brief but to be informal and cool—and also to avoid trying to be “right” and therefore revealing that they really have no idea how to write SWE. SWE may become more phonetic and accept verb forms like *gonna.”
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This suggests that there’s far more interaction between the spoken and the written than the current view that all that counts is the spoken language.
Xanne
Xanne
21:58
A fair amount of US TV advertising appeals to those who believe themselves to be ill-lettered, with apparently intentionally ungrammatical jarring phrases, like “When I got my pillow I’m asleep right away.”
This is not new, of course.
But to get back to the main point: the technology is reversing the Gutenberg effect, driving the written language and spelling closer to the spoken, after these many centuries.

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