While I don't want to stop people discussing the Israel/Palestine conflict, I think that it is such a hot button topic that it would help keep this room calm if the discussion had its own room.
@M.A.R. I just wanted to make sure your contribution was acknowledged.
@MattE.Эллен Can we talk about 'talking about it'? I'm assuming 3rd order questions are fair game but not sure about 2nd order.
Maybe it depends on whether we're talking about 'talking about the Israeli/Palestinian thing' or 'talking abstractly about ... uh ...' those kinds of things.
@Mitch I'm mostly concerned with the volatility of discourse in here. there are ... people on the SE chat network (noöne from here) who have been being extra spicy and I am being a bit preëmptive about where the heat is contained. So you can talk about talking about it
As an old, I want to use emojis to look cool but my OS makes me use an alternate keyboard like I'm typing in Arabic and zhuyin at the same time.
Which brings up the next topic, can you use emojis in Chinese text? Or really -do- people use emojis in Chinese text and do they mean the same things as in English?
By 'exactly' I mean I cannot tell the difference among any of those, but I'm pretty sure you used two different emojis... maybe they're all distinct I don't know
> “Prophet!” said I, “thing of evil! prophet still, if bird or devil!
Do you think that's bad rhyming?
evil has a long /i/ and devil has a short schwa. I know you're not supposed to pay attention to the length of the syllables in English poetry, but still it stood out to me. I thought maybe it's at least not the smoothest choice.
@MattE.Эллен I don't think so. Both with or without "the" appear to unambiguiously convey the same information. It sounds better with "the" for me but I don't know why.
@Færd That is an awful rhyme for me (AmE), it's not deevil or ehvil.
But there is a concept of 'spelling rhyme' which some people like to use.
I translate in my head 'spelling rhyme' to "not an actual rhyme' or 'I'm cheating' or 'I just can't think of a good word so fuck it this'll have to do'
@Færd That works for me. It's not a perfect rhyme but sounds good anyway.
@MattE.Эллен You know what's annoying? When a notification of a chat flag pops up, and you vote on it (yay! easy UI!) and then you wonder about the context... and then you can't find it. There's no list of voted on flags. I want to check the context, but now I can't.
@Mitch yeah. the system should force you to go to the room before you vote. but I guess if something it truly horrendous then it's better to deal with it quickly than go in search of context
eg this just in "I do. I've watched the last few days of chat as I catche up and the D&D hate is coming through loud and clear. If you say so. I'll let it go."
Well, I would have had some minimal interest in seeing the conversation but I only had enough time to read the flag and c-p it, not enough with that UX to visit and judge well.
I often think authoritatively that simple taboo word recognition is awfully ... over simplified manner to judge for valid flag, but then that's what I can do in the short 5 seconds of the life of the chat flag.
Nikolay Platoshkin, founder of a socialist movement titled "For New Socialism", may get 6 years of penal colony in Russia. The prosecutor has requested this term for him today. znak.com/2021-05-18/…
Putin is trying to suppress all non-controlled parties.
In a separate development, Head of the Chechnya Region recorded a video in which he promises to kill a person who called him a devil in a social network comment.
The Russian General Prosecutor's Office has a history of "not noticing" such statements made by Kadyrov, although it's a punishable crime in Russia.
@Cerberus It seems many people seem to think that the 'person' applies to themselves as opposed to the person/thing they are meeting. Like: I saw the new iPad in person.
Well, he’s arguing that if I say I’ve seen the Mona Lisa in person, which I have, that that’s wrong. I’m saying it’s not wrong, and is in fact a very direct way to get the point across. He could ask on ELL.
That's a value judgment on lots of things, not a descriptive rule. Language doesn't always work with rules. It'd be simpler to for French to say 'nonante et neuf' yet they insist on 'quatre-vingt dix-neuf'
but that could easily be a judgement of the French.
starts torpedo up again
@Cerberus We say what we say because others do and then we do. If there's logic that supports it that is just after the fact rationalization. It may make the pattern easier to generalize and remember but there's no guarantee that it is truly general.
I feel like emojis are not expressive enough. Like it's a little snapshot of one person's (or a committee of friends who are mostly identical) thinking up reactions.
English Language & Usage: Multi-Layer…
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