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13:00
There. I had to go there, after all. But now I'll stop.
go directly to stop
13:15
With only three letters between them, and some similar connotations, 'ex...ary' and 'ex...e' can be mistaken for each other. However, there is little to choose between them; both express the same thing. — Xavier Vidal Hernández 5 hours ago
Not sure how that's a however.
not sure how it's true either
Laters
Aw, I think it is sweet that X wants to share English grammar with you, @Matt.
On the blog? Yeah, it's an interesting thought.
13:23
Q: wordsmithery vs word-smithery?
I like them both
Yes, I do too. The allusive nature of the first intrigues.
Some sort of verbal mythopoeia.
Word smithereens. Powerpoint smithereens, too.
Me cago en tu Word.
Muy grazie.
13:25
Moosey bits to you to.
No joy here.
Mo Diddley to you three.
Ach. Why is this query taking so long to run?
to give you time to chat!
Catastrophic backtracking.
Should be using a DFA instead.
Depth-First Alcohol?
13:26
Dangerously Fissile Albino
Delete Fucking All?
See there, Kitster, if you were merely a language wonk I would’ve gesnowed you there, instead of saying something plausible but wrong.
Wait for @mr.shinyandnew安宇.
expectans expectavit. . . .
There. Now it's done. 6:40 later. I hate those; I never know whether they are broken.
13:28
?
The 45 minute ones were the worst.
Let them write out "I'm still alive" every five minutes.
Every 4:34 minutes, to be precise.
I don't think I know how to do that.
I suppose I'd have to wrap it in a transaction then.
I can't think how to do it
coins paragraphy
13:30
Man, Chrome's all messing with my head and shit.
@MattЭллен Then just click on "Reload" every 4:34 minutes yourself.
Buttons all in the wrong places.
g'morning people
@KitFox offers Pepto-aBysmal
@RegDwightАΑA that would only prove to me that I'm alive
which I would already know
13:31
You can never be sure.
hullo @JSBձոգչ
Are you sure you're not stateless?
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Q: Prepositions to use when indicating locations

xEnOnI am always confused with the prepositions to use when indicating an event happening at a place. Should I use "at" or "in" or "on"? For example: We had our dinner at the McDonalds at/in the shopping centre at/on Sixth Avenue. The McDonalds restaurant is in the shopping centre. The shoppi...

this has got to be a duplicate
@RegDwightАΑA true, I wouldn't want to be extradited while my back was turned because I was really dead
4
Q: "In school" vs "at school"

NemodenI sometimes get confused whether to use in or at. For example, Children were not at school yesterday, because yesterday was a holiday. Children were not in school yesterday, because yesterday was a holiday. Is there a rule of thumb to not confuse in and at?

1
Q: "In office" or "at office"?

Thomson TanI am a little confused about which preposition should be used here as in the title. I prefer to use in office. But how about the other one? Are both correct or not?

13:32
in McDonalds vs on McDonalds
I picked Pinal Dave over SO just now. Haha!
i always eat on McDonalds. then the employees chase me off the roof.
:D
@KitFox biting the hand that, um, irritates?
1
Q: using phrase "weekend of"

Yeeeppp_yepyepyepSay the 24th is a Monday and you say that you’ll be doing something the weekend of the 24th, meaning the 22nd and 23rd. Isn’t that incorrect? I would say the weekend of the 24th means the 29th and 30th.

I don't understand.
Wha—?
13:35
Oh, I misread!
Still, I don't understand.
I don't understand either. If the 24th is Monday, I would not use "the weekend of the 24th."
yes. Weekend of the 24th would mean the weekend where Saturday is the 24th
Or maybe Friday.
maybe
13:53
@RegDwightАΑA Added eleven PRs. Done.
Oh dear.
That’s what the elk bugled.
3
Q: kids books vs children’s books

DJSizzlePuffI know that children’s books is correct, but for some reason I want to say kids books, even though I know that it’s a plural possessive noun ending in an s. A quick search on the web turns up Barnes & Noble, who have a web page title that reads “Children's Books, Kids Books”. Is the major...

I took it out.
You should put those in a comment.
13:56
Why?
Maybe I should, but I cannot.
Therefore it must go in the question.
Then in two comments.
Why?
"Possibly related" doesn't belong in the body of the question.
Also, I saw the snark.
Linked questions only appear at the top when it is closed as a dupe.
The snark is not visible.
What is the comment length limit?
Dunno. 300 characters or so.
13:58
It was 1030 characters, not counting hidden comments.
If you think it's a dupe, you should just vote to close it.
So you want me to to 4 comments now?
I have seen @RegDwightАΑA place long PRs in the body.
Is that so?
I asked him why it wasn’t a dupe; he made his case. So I said I would work on adding possibly relateds.
Which is what I did.
And which you undid.
You should do so in the comments.
Not the body of the question.
14:00
@RegDwightАΑA Please comment.
@KitFox And you will delete the comment chain.
I am not pleased.
Why would you think that?
The comments are where it should go.
Because you delete long comment chains.
And this one shall be long.
By putting it at the top of the question the way you did, you left the impression that the question was closed.
Relateds go in the comments.
14:01
I only had to take the Place names out.
That was my intention. I would be glad to make the header different.
@KitFox 600.
@RegDwightАΑA Your just bananae's.
I was not trying to make it seem like something it was not.
@RegDwightАΑA Thank you.
14:02
I was trying to make it look good.
@tchrist linky please.)))
@tchrist But it looked like you were trying. It has to seem effortless.
@Robusto ?????
Anyway. For starters, everybody thank tchrist for hunting them all down. You know it's a nightmare.
14:03
Thank you. It was hard to hunt down!
wth. we have a tag
Can all this question-housecleaning be done without pushing them to the front page?
@RegDwightАΑA What, he killed all the zombies? Then there's nothing left for us to do.
(Hello \o)
@coleopterist Not really.
14:04
@coleopterist i wish.
@coleopterist only the Chaos team can do that, contrary to what their name suggests.
@coleopterist There are certain sorts of Team-generated burninations that can be done sub rosa, but not by us peons.
Yes, sorry. Thank you @tchrist for finding all of those. It was a good thing to link them. It was only just that you put them in the wrong place, is all.
jinxy
@KitFox I wish you had talked to me.
14:05
What have I been doing?
He means prior to your rollback.
Chastising.
Yes, exactly @Reg.
@tchrist and Rob is joking right there.
@tchrist I see. "sub rosa" huh? :)
Well, I was just going to stick them into a comment for you, but then I thought that you might want to do that.
14:06
Is @Kitfox no longer a peon?
@KitFox you must know that tchrist has been having some que se j with his soda, and no s.
It's been a hard day's week.
I see.
I’m on an effing call with India, for 90 minutes, with 90 minutes to go.
Hahaha.
I mean.
Good luck.
Man, India is such a pain.
14:07
I hate being made to get up at five o’flipping clock for $dayjob.
I was trying to do something mindless and useful in the bg.
Are you training your replacement? :)
No, it’s not that. Too complex to explain. Mixed team on- and offshore.
I didn’t merely link to 11 PRs.
I also edited each and every one of them to clean them up.
First.
It looked pretty.
14:09
I tried to weigh in with some crosslinking but got bored immediately.
Like I said, I was going to dump them into comments, but I thought you might like to do it instead.
@RegDwightАΑA Yes, exactly. It is tedious and superboring work.
Which is why I came back to say that they should be in the comments instead of the body of the question.
2
Q: Using abbreviations incorrectly?

Stephen CookIn English it's considered correct to ask I do it like this, don't I? or Why can't I go? whereas "don't" is an abbreviation of "do not" and "can't" is an abbreviation of "cannot". However, keeping the structure and no longer abbreviating the words, you get I do it like this, do n...

And this is a dupe, @JSB.
Well, kind of.
yeah, i wasn't going to that phase, yet
14:10
I think it ever really got answered by nohat in a comment.
Using abbrevs. incly.?
@Robusto I like how you abbreviated useing to using. Can I us that?
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Q: Do contractions (e.g. "don't") and full phrases (e.g. "do not") have the same meaning?

Srinivas Reddy ThatiparthyWhat is the difference between "don't" and "do not" in the English literature as well as spoken English? Are they same? The same question goes for "wouldn't" and "would not", "couldn't" and "could not".

It is not always the case that you can replace don’t or can’t etc. with do not or cannot directly; e.g. there is no unawkward way to uncontract Why can’t I?nohat Sep 20 '10 at 0:16
Sowewhere we had a younger question in which I linked to that comment.
@RegDwightАΑA u cn
@KitFox I understand that you no longer have the luxury of gently explaining things to people as you once did. Or perhaps you think I deserve a brusque heavy-handed treatment. If so, it is hardly my place to gainsay or even criticize you, and so I shan’t.
OK.
14:13
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Q: Can you say "are not we all?" instead of "aren't we all?"

Olly Price Because "aren't" translates to "are not" I pose the question, can you use both interchangeably (in the context of "aren't we all?")? "Are not" sounds very grammatically incorrect in this situation. Can you say "you need not go there" as opposed to "you needn't go there"? Basically, I thought y...

We should force people to use the tag on their own questions.
dupe or dope? :|
@Robusto SO had that useful tag, .
Yes. That would be nice too.
14:16
@ehtimse1970 - On this matter you could ask in meta site, where you can find an excellent user with the lozenge (KitFox) that surely has a balanced answer for this! — Xavier Vidal Hernández 2 hours ago
@tchrist I'm sorry that you felt injured. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I started fixing the question and came in to tell you what was going on. My attention is divided today, so I was not careful with my wording, but I didn't think I needed to be with you. My apologies.
No questions found in that tag.
@simchona Hmm, lozenge ... I think he means suppository.
@RegDwightАΑA Say it with a rising inflection.
2 days ago, by RegDwight АΑA
Ange is French for angel. Loz is Spanish for misspelled plural definite article. In conclusion, QED.
14:25
@Robusto I do rather get up people's asses.
@RegDwightАΑA Angina is word meaning pain in the lady parts.
@Robusto It’s no lozenge; the ♦ used for postfixing a moderator’s username is U+2666 BLACK DIAMOND SUIT.
I feel like a harlequin.
@tchrist I'm glad we cleared that up.
14:27
That's why they are called diamond mods.
And by they I mean us.
@KitFox mmmm Harlequin
But, seriously, I doubt if any of our mods are black. So they should have white diamonds.
@KitFox You are 🃍 U+1F0CD PLAYING CARD QUEEN OF DIAMONDS
Off with their heads!
I doubt that any of the mods have a high refractive index either ...
@tchrist why the hell does there need to be a character for that?
Do they also have a code point for Mona Lisa?
14:29
they have code points for cat faces
/me looks up "elide"
@Robusto Hey! I'm biracial!
@RegDwightАΑA Because there are texts that use it.
People write up Bridge hands, for example.
@tchrist as a single character?
Yes.
14:30
Wow.
Or Poker hands.
@KitFox What you do behind closed doors with consenting adults is none of our business.
@coleopterist when stars elide like you and I, no shadows block the sun.
@Robusto what if it's in front of closed doors?
@MattЭллен Definitely not.
14:32
For example, there are Poker rules books that say things like 🂢🂲🃂 beats 🂡🃑.
Now stop bothering me, I'm trying to fix someone's middle-tier issue.
is it my middle tier issue?
It’s lachrymous?
Or lachrymose?
@tchrist they don't have anything like chess notation?
They have to draw little pictures?
♔ 2654 WHITE CHESS KING
♕ 2655 WHITE CHESS QUEEN
♖ 2656 WHITE CHESS ROOK
♗ 2657 WHITE CHESS BISHOP
♘ 2658 WHITE CHESS KNIGHT
♙ 2659 WHITE CHESS PAWN
♚ 265A BLACK CHESS KING
♛ 265B BLACK CHESS QUEEN
♜ 265C BLACK CHESS ROOK
♝ 265D BLACK CHESS BISHOP
♞ 265E BLACK CHESS KNIGHT
♟ 265F BLACK CHESS PAWN
14:33
I knew you would say that.
yes! all of those work. I might never play bridge, but I can play chess
Which is specifically why I am referring to chess notation. No one ever draws a black knight. No one. Ever.
The problem of using the white diamond is the same as that of the white dragon.
@tchrist It's lacrymosa dies illa.
14:35
@RegDwightАΑA :)
@Robusto What, you think I don’t know that?
@RegDwightАΑA Nice opening move. I didn't know you could do that.
@RegDwightАΑA Yes.
@Robusto I can.
@tchrist If you knew it you'd have said it.
14:35
@MattЭллен Shouldn't this be "alluded"? The have to is optional in the wish because it can be elided through back reference (or what ever it's really called) to the previous statement.
@RegDwightАΑA It's the Slob Opening.
Giant Gelatine Slob.
 🀆  1F006       MAHJONG TILE WHITE DRAGON
        = baiban
 🃟  1F0DF       PLAYING CARD WHITE JOKER
        * may also be red
 ◇  25C7        WHITE DIAMOND
        x (combining enclosing diamond - 20DF)
        x (diamond operator - 22C4)
        x (white diamond suit - 2662)
        x (white medium diamond - 2B26)
        x (alchemical symbol for soap - 1F754)
 ◈  25C8        WHITE DIAMOND CONTAINING BLACK SMALL DIAMOND
@coleopterist I mean removed
Cross between the Slave Defense and the Grob opening, with overtones of Siciliano Accelerated Checkmate.
14:37
@Robusto I have sung the Mass a hundred times, kiddo.
@MattЭллен Ah. Cheers.
no problem :)
@tchrist And it still hasn't taken? Damn. The only one that matters is the one they sing for you.
Fa dièse irae, sol dièse illa.
@RegDwightАΑA The chess pieces were in the original Unicode spec, lo these twenty years ago and ageing.
For whatever reason.
Lemme go check a couple of printed books. I have a hunch.
14:39
Yeah. They should have a code point for "whatever".
> In some publications, the pieces are indicated by icons rather than by letters, for example: ♞c6. This is called figurine algebraic notation (or FAN) and has the advantage of being language-independent.
It also has the disadvantage of looking like a tiny gelatine blob.
so... you're saying aliens could learn chess?
@MattЭллен Who else has the time?
doesn't this weaken our position? They will learn our strategies and conquer us
 🃟  1F0DF       PLAYING CARD WHITE JOKER
        * may also be red
@RegDwightАΑA It’s the pessimally illegible choice of face and point used in this stupid room.
14:43
we must protect our selves from invasion. burn all books on chess and outlaw chess. we can't let this information fall into alien hands
What's with the may also be read part?
I cannot find my Shogi book.
What is the Borges quote about librarians not knowing the contents of their own libraries?
Seriously.
It’s in El Alef.
🃟 1F0DF HE WHO HAS THE TIME
* may also be he who has no time
@MattЭллен tchrist will find them off with ginormous postings about codepointz. You'll see. Soon they will get bored and just head back to their home planet to die.
14:45
👽 1F47D EXTRATERRESTRIAL ALIEN
👾 1F47E ALIEN MONSTER
Hey, they're leaving already.
Looks like more of an illegible Unicode monster to me.
You gynormity is damned short.
Reg, WTF do you expect to be able to read in a 6-pt font?
6? How about 3?
You cannot print CJK as small as you can Latin.
14:46
these aliens have disguised themselves as hexadecimal numbers in squares. we're doomed.
@tchrist I can. With the results you're observing.
These idiograms are the same way.
@MattЭллен Get a real computer.
@tchrist do actual drawing
His computer can't draw, only write.
Even 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒
𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀮 𓀯 𓀰 𓀱 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶
𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁌 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑 𓁒 𓁓 𓁔 𓁕 𓁖 𓁗 𓁘 𓁙 𓁚
𓁛 𓁜 𓁝 𓁞 𓁟 𓁠 𓁡 𓁢 𓁣 𓁤 𓁥 𓁦 𓁧 𓁨 𓁩 𓁪 𓁫 𓁬 𓁭 𓁮 𓁯 𓁰 𓁱 𓁲 𓁳 𓁴 𓁵 are easily distinguishable — viewed at 1200 dpi resolution and a reasonable 18-pt font.
YOUR SCREEN has no resolution.
14:49
yours has no imagination
I wouldn't call that easily distinguishable, but okay.
Hey, I've got just empty boxes.
are they big enough to sit in?
Clicky-clicky.
@KitFox @Mahnax doesn’t.
Look. @Tchrist. Here's the ugly truth. If the latest and greatest SteveOS does not have your Unicodez, and the latest and greatest GeekOS does not have your Unicodez, then your Unicodez might as well not exist. You can call them codez if you wish, but I object to your calling them uni.
14:55
Who here is running under Mac right now?
Robusto, at best.
Emoji are loaded.
Hieroglyphics and cuneiform are not.
You cannot expect any font to contain representative glyphs for all possible codepoints. It shall never happen.
@RegDwightАΑA And you know full well that MicroSloth lacks support for even superbasic Latin characters from the original 20yo Unicode spec. It is outrageous, and you know it.
Of course.
Ich piesacke Dich nur.

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