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12:15 AM
Well, I think I may have got to the bottom of my surprise restarts.
Someone (namin' no names) hasn't cleaned the ventilation filter in quite some time. That seems to have been causing the graphics card to overheat. Silly supposition, I know, because graphics cards never overheat — but still ...
 
That's a synonym of , isn't it?
 
Oh I hope so.
 
@KitFox Pretty sure that’s a mod-only tag.
 
Nah, it's a rocker-only tag.
 
12:29 AM
Hey Rob, do you still go to the WMT room?
 
The mods and rockers were two conflicting British youth subcultures of the early to mid 1960s. Media coverage of mods and rockers fighting in 1964 sparked a moral panic about British youths, and the two groups became labelled as folk devils. The rockers considered mods to be weedy, effeminate snobs, and mods saw rockers as out of touch, oafish and grubby. The rocker subculture was centred around motorcycling, and their appearance reflected that. Rockers generally wore protective clothing such as black leather jackets and motorcycle boots (although they sometimes wore brothel creeper shoe...
@KitFox Haven't been in ages. So long that it's off my history.
 
Whoa.
 
Browser history, that is.
 
How long since the band broke up? I can't even remember now.
I was (and am) such a slacker.
 
What band?
 
12:30 AM
The faction.
 
Beats me. I haven't been on kongregate since before my surgery.
Speaking of which — ta-daaa! — I have 140° flexion and 0° extension as of today's PT session. Within a few degrees of my other knee. Yay!
 
Hey, that's big news!
Congrats.
 
Thank you.
 
My husband and I have been playing Moxie.
It's a game by a Maine company.
They also created 7 Little Words.
Two very fun games, and they help support my home state's economy. Can't be beat.
 
Can't beat that with a bat.
 
12:38 AM
Right now, I am alternately writing notes for a useless training tomorrow and revising my story.
I am trying to write an authentic journal entry, which is funny in two ways.
One is that I (used to) keep a journal, so you think it would come naturally to me. Two is that I had a very self-conversational journal style, which keeps making it sound like I'm just speaking out the plot.
 
And that is bad because ...?
 
I think it gives the whole passage a contrived feel.
Which is something I want to avoid.
 
Oh, you mean "authentic journal entry" as in "fake journal entry that sounds authentic" ...
 
Oh yes.
Sorry, yes.
I can see how that was unclear.
Authentic sounding journal entry.
 
"authentic-sounding" would clear it up.
Jinx.
 
12:42 AM
 
Yeah, well, does it fit the character's voice?
 
How's that for authentic?
 
You're the author, you tell me?
 
I meant the Coke.
It is much harder than I thought to write a journal entry in another character's voice.
I read it and it sounds like me to my ear.
 
I never have a problem writing in another character's voice, because I can't even write the character until I get their voice. I can't write at all, in fact, until I hear the voice of the narrator.
Hmmm, let me see, if I were writing in Kit's voice I might say:
giggles
Damn .Net won't give me any peace!
Does anyone know regular expressions? bats eyelashes
@KitFox Not even close?
 
12:55 AM
I don't bat my eyelashes.
And usually it is jQuery that I'm wrestling with. Or SQL.
But pretty close.
 
You damn well do bat your eyelashes. You think we don't notice?
 
Did we have a question whose answer was "semantic satiety"?
 
And I was going to say SQL but I thought better of it because I don't know enough SQL to continue in a convincing way. But I guess that would have been in character, wouldn't it?
 
Ouch.
 
@KitFox Yes.
 
12:57 AM
I can't find it. Do you remember any other keywords?
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Q: Is there a word or phrase for the feeling you get after looking at a word for too long?

Boofus McGoofus(Perhaps this only happens to me, but I doubt it.) Sometimes after looking at a word for a while, I become convinced that it can't possibly be spelled correctly. Even after looking it up, sounding it out, and realizing that there's simply no other way to spell the word, it still looks wrong. ...

 
Uh, no.
 
Got it.
 
Except it's "semantic satiation" — not satiety.
Which is why the search was busted.
Remember the feeling you had after you learned how to read, and you wondered how those markings on the page ever didn't mean anything to you? I did. And when I tried to make them not mean something, that's what would happen. I remember laughing that the could mean something, and be spelled with those characters, those lines ... ah, but it was easy to get high when you were five years old, wasn't it?
Aaaaaaand ... leave it to FF to spoil the party:
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A: Is there a word or phrase for the feeling you get after looking at a word for too long?

FumbleFingersBased on this NGram... ...I'm tempted to suggest semantic satiation is a 'failed coinage'. Personally I think it's misleading to imply the phenomenon is restricted to the issue of semantics in the first place. In my experience it's not so much that the word 'loses its meaning'. It's more a matt...

With an NGram, no less!
 
Quelle surprise!
 
What does an old, crabby lobster say to all the young lobsters? Get off my prawn!
 
1:03 AM
Bonjour!
 
Ou soir.
 
Bon soir.
Jinx
 
Bonne nuit.
 
Jinx du jour.
 
Pas encore.
 
1:03 AM
Oh, it's already six? Wow.
 
Gauchlings.
 
I was out all day.
 
I'm not gauche. I'm very adroit.
 
Touché.
 
OK, laters me peoples.
 
1:06 AM
Night.
 
Zurdo soy, y zurdo fui, y zurdo mañana seré.
Just no abs.
practices twirling his hyperbaton
I found a great imprecation to put in my pocket for the next time ɥɔʇᴉƜ or ℲℲ go off on one of their postmodernista rantings: “Shake yourself out of this parochialism of time!”
 
1:28 AM
@tchrist Yes, I've read Lord of the Rings.
 
@Luke I think I asked you that because of the various archaisms in there.
 
Hello.
 
Good morning.
 
Good something.
 
Oh, madrugada, right.
Are you lying in bed listening to a grand piano?
 
1:36 AM
Just lying in bed this time. It's 3 am.
And you?
 
Hm.
Just got off the phone with my dad for his 70th birthday.
 
Isn't a madrugada some kind of musical piece?
 
Madrigal.
 
Congrats!
 
Been drinking, eh? :)
Madrugada is the time after night and before dawn.
 
1:38 AM
Ah.
 
By the way, how come your dad gets to be younger than mine?
 
Precocity.
Which is the kinder of the two solutions of that equation to relate to one’s interlocutor.
 
Oh, dear! Is it the season already? I should buy a new hat. What's in in Ankh Morport at the moment?
Hope is ascribing a positive trait to itself out one's father kinder to one's interlocutor?
*oneself
*or
 
It’s kinder to say one’s own may have been early than to say that one’s interlocutor’s was tardy.
But I also know people 16 years my junior whose fathers are the same age as mine.
These things stretch.
 
1:45 AM
-2 is more positive than -1.
 
Oh joy! Number theory!
Do you like my new ægis against the parochialism of time?
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A: Is this correct: "Aloof the hallow things shall always be"?

tchristYes, this is the poetic device known as hyperbaton. It is quite common. See also its treatment here, which discusses the devices of lyric poetry, including in Le Guin and Tolkien. Speaking of whom, in Letter #171, J.R.R. Tolkien, responding to criticism of his ‘archaic’ style, wrote the follow...

 
@tchrist Yep.
 
Ægis is a funny word. Apparently it’s of uncertain origin, per a discussion in Liddell and Scott.
Jun 17 '11 at 15:07, by Cerberus
I use Aegis (heals all 2, Imp), Poseidon (Imp, heals all 1, siege, anti-air, 6 hp), the Raider siege thing (speed 1 / attack 1 / hp 5), and Chaos Wave (because no EMP).
 
I could not but support thine aegida.
Especially since I use it, apparently.
 
> 1812 Byron Ch. Harold ii. xiv, ― Where was thine Ægis, Pallas, that appalled Stern Alaric?
I’m (ever so slightly) surprised you thought to use thine there. Byron fan, perchance? :)
Noöne but Reg commented on this, and even that only in chat:
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Q: US/UK spellings of tags should be synonyms

tchristI propose, as a matter both of policy and principle, that any tag name that exists in one of the major spelling variants (loosely, US-vs-UK, but not so limited) should also exist in the other as a synonym. Here is the list of current-as-of-this-writing tags which this would apply to, along wit...

 
2:00 AM
Have any of you heard of Summerland Sweets?
It's a brand of jam/syrup.
 
Nope, sorry.
Which one?
 
Which one…?
 
Surely jamsyrup?
 
Why surprised at all? What word wouldst thou have had me use?
 
They make both.
 
2:01 AM
Ah, makes sense now.
 
Hello.
 
Only surprised, hardly astonished.
It caught me unawares.
 
Anyways, we went to their orchard today. It was quite lovely.
 
What is it made of?
 
Wherefor?
 
2:03 AM
@tchrist Are you asking me?
 
@Mahnax Yes. Fruits des bois / frutas del bosque, then?
 
@tchrist They have peaches, apricots, blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, and more.
 
I was unaware that stone fruit (fruit with pits) grew so far north.
Although I suppose choke-cherries grow everywhere.
But apricots? Neat.
 
It's really hot here.
Apparently there are deserts in this area.
The Okanagan, they call it.
 
Our stone fruit crop comes from the arid western slope.
Although I've a lovely nectarine tree in back.
@Cerberus Did you know the British don’t call a peach pit a peach pit?
 
2:06 AM
I like nectarines. I'm not so fond of peaches, but only because of the skin. I like the taste of the fruit.
 
I know just what you mean.
Of course they will all come ripe right at once. Not sure what I'll do with them.
I think I could be happy eating 6–8 per day.
 
I bought two little containers of jam, one raspberry, one apricot.
Plus a little bottle of blackberry & raspberry syrup.
 
They are smaller than the commercial once because I do not pluck off two out of every three fruits as they set on, to encourage growth in the others.
Raspberries are exquisite, better even than blueberries.
 
I like cherries the most.
 
You live in the prairie, don’t you, not the forest?
The Montana cherries are in right now.
The wild berries native to Cascadia are many and “exotic”, and delish. Things you just don’t get elsewhere, nor which are grown commercially nor distributed.
 
2:10 AM
@tchrist Erm, I'm not really sure. We have lots of forests, but we also have large, open fields.
 
@tchrist I heard that. and question the association.
 
Ah, I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
 
@tchr I should expect them to use stone? I'd personally not use pit, possibly because of that, or because I'd subconsciously avoid the Dutch word, which is, you guessed it, pit.
 
@Mahnax What berries grow in your forests? Blackberries and raspberries, and strawberries, and blueberries and huckleberries, and cloudberries and thimbleberries, and choke cherries and wild grapes?
@Cerberus Guess is hardly the operative term. :)
 
Then what is it?
 
2:13 AM
All matter of framboid delicacies.
 
@tchrist We have raspberries that grow in some places, as well as little tiny strawberries that pop up near the ground. We don't get blueberries or wild grapes, but we do get chokecherries and cloudberries. We also get saskatoons.
 
I specifically knew that North America uses pit because of the Dutch influence.
 
Oh, really?
 
Because it is a foreign word to the Brits but not to us.
 
I had no idea!
 
2:14 AM
So you dig up why that may have come about.
 
Then again, we rule.
 
Saskatoons are yummy.
 
> Etymology: app. a. Dutch pit, early mod. and late MDutch pitte fem., MLG., LG., WFris., EFris. pit pith, kernel, pip, radically agreeing with OE. piþa masc., pith.
 
Nice.
 
Oh! Saskatoon = juneberry.
 
2:16 AM
Now it's bed time.
Good night, both.
 
@tchrist Really? Neat.
 
Night.
 
Bye Cerby!
 
Save a few berries for me.
 
@tchrist which postmodernist rant of mine are you referring to?
 
2:17 AM
Anyway, did rule. :(
"Postmodernist" is actually the wrong word.
 
poof
 
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way
2
 
snaps fingers, hums a beat
 
@tchrist You threw an imprecation my way, it'd be nice to know the reason.
 
You and FF both seem to think that newest and currentest is bestest in a way that seems to suffer from a parochialism of time that does unjust injury to the wealth and range of expression that English embraces.
And I wish you did not.
 
2:21 AM
Oh. Can you refer me to a rant where I acted like that?
 
Yes, probably.
Moment.
 
dances to @Mahnax's beat
 
Yay!
 
if you've a date in Constantinope / she'll be waiting in Is-tan-bul
 
Oh boy. My friend is sending me a coupon on Steam for 75 % off Portal 2 because he already has it.
 
2:22 AM
@Mahnax it's already down to liek $5 isn't it?
 
Here’s the first of a zillion.
'Muster', or mustering', as fun as it sounds, is archaic, and recognizable only by Tolkien readers. — Mitch Dec 22 '11 at 15:02
 
@cornbreadninja Not anymore.
 
you should play team fortress!
 
Is it for Mac?
 
@tchrist that doesn't pass muster.
 
2:23 AM
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A: What is the name for the grammatical device of putting "not" after a verb to negate it?

MitchThe syntax of "N V not" ("I know not") in English is called simple negation. It was much more common in Early Modern English. The negation pattern that is more commonly used now, "N do not V" ("I don't know") is called just plain negation (it is the unmarked (expected) form).

 
No one uses oftentimes. It's recognizable, but sounds old-fashioned. — Mitch Apr 28 at 2:02
 
@tchrist Why do you wish that I did not? I can see why you might have that attitude towards me. I am particularly annoyed by answers to obvious second language learners containing obvious archaisms.
 
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A: Use of the subjunctive for verbs other than "to be"?

MitchThe verb 'to be' is not special here. Your examples are correct but only in a stilted, overly formal, hardly used context. In the rare context it would be incorrect to use the simple present. But if you used those forms nowadays, it would sound strange to most English speakers of most current ...

 
@cornbreadninja Huh. I might try it sometime.
 
2:25 AM
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A: Is this usage of "all" considered archaic?

MitchIt's not a particularly common phrasing when used as a descriptive, which might give it the air of archaism, and you particular example is somewhat poetic, adding to that nuance. It sounds like a poetic elision of 'the afternoon was all...' where 'all' is an adverb, modifying the predicate. But...

 
Then you disagree with my statements?
@tchrist Those aren't accurate nuances?
 
@Mitch Whiles is a word, e.g "He whiles away the day in Stack Exchange Api V2 Chat" — Matt Эллен Apr 25 at 19:08
 
@tchrist were he living, my dad would be (does math) 77 this year.
@Mahnax hooray
 
'hence', though it does save space, is a bit too formal sounding and on its way to being archaic. — Mitch May 9 '11 at 16:39
 
@cornbreadninja Have you played Limbo? Fantastic game.
 
2:27 AM
@JoelBrown: the subjunctive is becoming rarer (and more archaic sounding). — Mitch Apr 6 at 15:40
 
every limbo boy and girl / all around the limbo world
jack be nimble, jack be quick / jack go under limbo stick
@Mahnax no, what happens? do you go under a stick?
 
Those are rants?
 
@cornbreadninja Nope, you go into Limbo.
 
@Mahnax pulls collar away from neck aieee
 
@tchrist So you object to the term 'archaic'?
 
2:28 AM
They're very old-fashioned. Don't use them unless you want to sound weird. — Mitch Aug 8 at 13:35
Don’t follow Mitch’s advice unless you want to sound boring. — tchrist Aug 8 at 13:52
 
@Mahnax have you made any contributions to Penhousing?
 
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A: Usage of and equivalents of Sir

MitchIn AmE, the use of 'Sir' (or 'Ma'am') in speech is deprecated, even in formal situations. Though a fifty year old 'Amy Vanderbilt' (etiquette guide) might still be followed for addressing mail, it is just not used in speech. Except in Southern English where it is usually used for someone older o...

 
@cornbreadninja Nay. I shall at a later time, though.
 
@Mahnax good good.
 
I use sir frequently.
In the sirvice industry, it's a must.
3
 
2:32 AM
And this one you get very very very wrong:
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A: Is employing hyperbaton correct in English?

MitchStandard word order in English is SVO (subject, verb, object). The given sentence (with a bit of complexity due to the helper verb) is more SOV. In one sense it is totally incorrect grammar. In another, if you went around talking in SOV order like the above, you'd have the tendency to sound like...

See for example:
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A: Is this correct: "Aloof the hallow things shall always be"?

tchristYes, this is the poetic device known as hyperbaton. It is quite common. See also its treatment here, which discusses the devices of lyric poetry, including in Le Guin and Tolkien. Speaking of whom, in Letter #171, J.R.R. Tolkien, responding to criticism of his ‘archaic’ style, wrote the follow...

 
@tchrist How did I get it wrong? You should comment then to correct me.
 
You like to brand things as archaic, old-fashioned, sounding weird. You seem to want everyone to write like they were drunken truck-drivers.
You have fallen into the previously discussed parochialism of time.
 
parochialism of the current time or the past one?
 
The current one, clearly.
Only the most commonly used turn of phrase is acceptable to you.
It sucks.
You’re afraid of being noticed.
 
So you got me...I tend to the descriptivist. And I take it you don't?
 
2:37 AM
No, you do not.
 
?? I do not what?
 
You tend to be disparaging of linguistic diversity.
And that, sir, is where I draw the line.
 
??
 
The cherries beckon. I shall return anon.
 
How am I disparaging of linguistic diversity?
 
2:38 AM
@tchrist puts on khaddafi hat, crosses line
 
People ask questions about how to say things, and I try to respond with what I hear, noting where there are differences and what the nuance of that difference is.
How did I get the hyperbaton question wrong? Are you saying that using it does -not- make one sound poetic?
I think I see where you are coming from. I only just saw this:
...read your recent answer. Sure...Tolkien all the way. but that's not how most people speak or write nowadays. If second language learners spoke like that, they'd be laughed at by native speakers of all varieties. If you want to write like that, then great, but that's the nuance I ...
 
@tchrist I was the last child / just a punk in the street
 
...try to add what the drunken truck driver does say, in whatever variety is relevant.'
Sure the Tolkien answers are great but the truck driver isn't going to understand, not because of some proletarian innocence, but because that ain't his language.
 
2:59 AM
It is only fit and right that someone must at whiles oppose those who would strip our language of all vestige of lyric beauty, of stirring rhetoric, of diversity of syntax and vocabulary.
Perhaps I have stumbled upon the wrong site. I keep hoping this will be something better than the perpetually plaguing ESFL&U that has now almost entirely become.
But it isn’t, and those who beggar our language into a second-class pidgin patrolled by texting teens behind truck consoles do grave injury to us all.
But so be it. Let us embrace our ESFL&Usery once and for all.
For much of the world is forced to speak in a language that is not theirs but ours.
 
I'm not trying to be disparaging of refined speech. In all the examples you gave of mine, I'm trying to give the unmentioned actual speech. If it is factually incorrect then please correct and comment. If the particular facts are not appealing, or you fel are teaching to a lower range, then that nuance might be welcome too.
 
Here is but one pathetic example of the sort of dross that these miserably incompetent ESLlers bring us:
“My private tragedy, which cannot, and indeed should not, be anybody’s concern, is that I had to abandon my natural idiom, my untrammelled, rich, and infinitely docile Russian tongue for a second-rate brand of English, devoid of any of those apparatuses — the baffling mirror, the black velvet backdrop, the implied associations and traditions — which the native illusionist, frac-tails flying, can magically use to transcend the heritage in his own way.”
 
@tchrist the site is what you make of it a long with everybody else. I'm guessing you're not toeing the prescriptivist line but pushing erudition. That's good and great.
 
That is my standard of ESLlers. I expect nothing less here.
 
@tchrist OK (I don't know who said that). So you're trying to teach English literary writing. I'm only trying to add the alternatives that might or might not be used in casual speech.
 
3:06 AM
His name, rendered into our Latin alphabet, is Vladimir Vladimirovich Nabokov.
Perhaps you shall have heard of him.
 
I'm not sure if you're making fun of him or me. But I guess that's part of the fun.
 
I am sick of truck-driver answers.
 
OK. Then downvote them and comment as to why they are wrong. Please. That's the only way people will get to a better answer.
 
We are not here to teach people how to pass their ESL test.
Period.
 
@Mahnax dude, then why didn't you comment to that effect?
 
3:09 AM
> The English Language and Usage Stack Exchange is for linguists, etymologists, and (serious) English language enthusiasts.
 
@tchrist OK, but that seems contrary to everything you've said so far. You're for erudition, and that's what those tests are after, not for the truck-driver vernacular that you call what I put forth. I don't recommend all the answers I give for ESLers on their tests.
 
We are not here to teach the unEnglished how to pass their ESL trucking exam.
You constantly denigrate anything but what a 500-word idiot might understand.
Why?
 
@tchrist OK. But we are hre to help them pass their ESL collegiate entrance exam?
 
Are we?
 
3:12 AM
Sorry...that was a question.
 
Indeed.
 
You said we're not here to help pass an ESL truck driving exam, but from what you said before, that leads me to believe that you think we -are- here to help ESlers pass a higher register exam. And So I ask that as a question. Are we?
@cornbreadninja you're missing everything.
@tchrist Why? I'm (usually) being descriptivist of casual English. I don't denigrate the higher register, just want to give the additional perspective of what people actually tend to say.
 
@Mitch …what?
Was that a mis-ping?
 
Quoth Mitch: “No one” uses sir. “Not one” uses oftentimes. Whiles is “not a word”. Hyperbaton produces “totally incorrect grammar”.
Every last one of those is dead wrong.
@Mahnax No, it wasn’t.
 
I wasn't even around when that was asked.
 
3:21 AM
And “dead wrong” is the very sweetest way I can put it.
 
And I just did comment to that effect, but it was here and not there.
 
I leave it to an infantryman’s colorful imagination to come up with a more fitting turn of phrase.
It’s not the misguidedness I object to.
It’s the misguiding.
 
agrees
 
The only thing that pushing lower-class English on to people does is lock them into the uneducated classes.
Nothing great was ever achieved by aiming low.
 
Indeed. I wonder where Mitch is now.
 
3:25 AM
I’ve probably been too forceful.
I don’t want to help people pass their ESL exams. I want to encourage more Nabokovs from non-native speakers, and more Tolkiens from natives speakers.
Sure, it’s asking a lot.
But so be it. See the aiming-low thing again.
@Mitch “I am sorry to find you affected by the extraordinary 20th. C. delusion that its usages per se and simply as ‘contemporary’ – irrespective of whether they are terser, more vivid (or even nobler!) – have some peculiar validity above those of all other times, so that not to use them (even when quite unsuitable in tone) is a solecism, a gaffe, a thing at which one’s friends shudder or feel hot in the collar.”
 
@tchrist Where did you get that? (Asking because of quotation marks)
 
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A: Is this correct: "Aloof the hallow things shall always be"?

tchristYes, this is the poetic device known as hyperbaton. It is quite common. See also its treatment here, which discusses the devices of lyric poetry, including in Le Guin and Tolkien. Speaking of whom, in Letter #171, J.R.R. Tolkien, responding to criticism of his ‘archaic’ style, wrote the follow...

 
@tchrist Nice.
I love Tolkien.
 
I don’t expect non-native speakers to reach such grand achievements as Tolkien’s.
I expect no more of them than of Nabokov.
And no less.
 
Lolita was by Nabokov, yes?
 
3:37 AM
@Mahnax The line I quoted of his was indeed the very last sentence in that very book, from its afterword.
 
@tchrist Neat.
 
Even the lurkers are uncustomarily few tonight.
 
Yeah. Perhaps there is some lurker meetup somewhere.
 
Listening to some rousing oratory by a young Churchill come again.
Or even a new Kennedy.
 
So, @tchrist, what is perl most often used for?
 
3:43 AM
Text hacking.
But most data processing is text.
You can do general-purpose programming in it, although not at the machine-language level. But all its domain-specific shortcuts and idioms relate to text strings.
 
Have you rafted with the chicken?
Reg rafted for quite some time, back in the heyday.
 
I am now.
 
Ah, good.
Of this I approve.
 
Surpassingly few are the non-native speakers whom I would steer thither and hold some hope that they might parse out the words in that particular accent.
Reg, yes, probably.
But not many.
 
Which particular accent?
That of Nabokov?
 
3:48 AM
That of the singers.
Your chickenfolk.
 
Ah, meine Chickenfolken. Meine fake, awful German, too.
 
A nice, a tièrce de Picardy.
 
@Mahnax I was just saying that you should go to my answer on the 'sir' question and add your statement (that you use it all the time in the service industry) as a comment. Or maybe better, as an answer.
 
@Mitch Oh, OK. I'll comment, I guess.
 
A Picardy third is when you raise the third at the cadence, switching a minor-key piece so that it suddenly ends on the major. It’s somewhat cliché if overdone.
Actually sounds more Scots than Irish.
 
3:50 AM
@tchrist (I'm not clear on this obviously), so do you approve of Nabokov's language in that passage or do you disapprove?
 
It is to weep, it so masterfully done. Makes me want to learn Russian.
 
But you seemed to be negative towards it.
"Here is but one pathetic example of the sort of dross that these miserably incompetent ESLlers bring us:" then followed with the Nabokov quote. Were you just being sarcastic?
 
I think that shows that you misread me 180 degrees.
 
My brother weeps over sport.
 
He shouldn’t lose so much. :)
At least one of the singers is a Yorkshireman.
 
3:54 AM
He lost to his older (my younger) brother in tennis and has been incredibly infuriated in the time since.
 
Heather Wood is from Sheffield.
You know who else is from Sheffield?
 
@tchrist So can you set me straight? You said 'here is a pathetic example' then quoted something, but were you agreeing with what was said -in- the quote?
 
@Mitch, it is called dramatic irony.
@Mahnax Sean Bean is from Sheffield.
 
what is in the quote? or the situation?
 
sighs
 
3:57 AM
@tchrist Interesting.
> Fighting a battle of tantamount proportions!
Ma'am, you've been a native speaker for 42 years. Figure it out, kiitos ja kiitos.
 
If the writer has been brought so low that he can only produce such dross as that, so devoid of cultural references as he would feign pretend it to be, what then of his infinitely docile mother tongue that we are forever denied?
How can you not weep?
How can you not want to learn Russian?
 

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