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@RegDwigнt Nice. Looks vaguely familiar. But I don't recall ever seeing it in palaeography.
 
On Trump's next firings: "The first thing is going to be: Who's left, who's been loyal and who's been competent?” said one Republican close to the White House.
So the loyal will remain and the competent will be fired.
 
Colorado registered a record-clubbering 3,369 new cases today. A lot of the state is moving to the penultimate level of restrictions tomorrow morning.
And yes, clubbering is the word you use for baby seals.
 
1:16 AM
@tchrist My scientist son texted me yesterday: "I just can't fucking believe there are literally over 1,000,000 Trump supporters in MA. Granted, Biden still won every single district here, but to think that 1 in 3 people here are still that fucked just blows my mind. I never had any hope for the rest of the country, but I thought we had some kind of bubble up here."
I texted back that no matter where you are there is still a bottom to the bell curve.
 
I have lost all faith and hope in America with 70 fucking million of the electorate asking for four more years of American carnage.
We aren't better than this. We're trash.
 
I did like Massachusetts for the fact that the population is in general smarter and better educated than most of the rest of the country.
@tchrist Let's not flagellate ourselves. Or at least let's not let that stand in the way of continuing the struggle.
 
Some 19% or 34,479 voted for Trump in Boulder County. I can't even.
@Robusto I'm sickened.
I know you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but who the hell knew that some meant half?
 
I think we need to fight harder, put up more progressive candidates, get some candidates that people genuinely can get behind, instead of an "OK" inoffensive tepid oatmeal candidate whom no one feels strongly about.
 
@Robusto I think many people vote for a candidate even though they disapprove of his character, if they feel he supports certain policies which are important to them.
 
1:24 AM
Oct 4 at 14:22, by Robusto
You've heard the old saying "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"? Well, Trump's support seems to be bedrock at about 40%. Which gives us a number for how many people you can fool all the time.
Well, now it's closer to 50%.
Who knew?
 
Evangelicals hate Trump's behaviour, but they feel his conservative policies are more important.
 
@Cerberus The point is, they don't hate Trump's behavior. They only profess to hate it.
There are signs on pickup trucks all over the country that say "Trump-Pence 2020: Make the liberals cry again."
 
@Robusto What that suggests to me is that either the polls are wrong, or more of Trump's supporters decided to vote.
 
They love that this asshole is a scourge to the liberal "elites."
 
That's what it's all about: hurting others. Making them cry. Making them suffer. Laughing at their misery with sadistic glee.
 
1:27 AM
@Robusto Well, they make disapprove of Trump's behaviour and characters, but feel those are less important than fighting certain 'liberal' policies?
 
@tchrist Aye.
@Cerberus It's not the policies, it's the liberals themselves they want to hurt. You don't know these people like we do.
 
My unfounded suspicion is that the whole PC stuff is doing a lot of damage. I don't know whether it outbalances the supposed mobilisation of the outer left wing of 'liberal' voters.
@Robusto You don't need to make an argument from authority.
 
Remember what happened to Jack Nicholson in Easy Rider.
Nothing changes. These are monsters.
 
@Cerberus You know, I used to think that. But it doesn't really matter what liberals do, and in the absence of any cause they will create one.
 
I'm sure it is a combination of factors.
 
1:30 AM
@Cerberus I'm surprised you didn't accuse me of argumentum ad verecundiam, Latin-boy. But let me explain why my argumentum is not one of those. I live here in the US and am simply reporting what I see.
 
Fear of immigration may be another big motivator.
 
I remember when they lynched little Matthew Shepard and hung his body on the barbed wire to die just over the border in Laramie. These are monsters.
 
@tchrist Yes.
 
If we don't like you, we get to kill you. That's the American Dream.
 
> Candidate - Odds - Percent Chance
Donald Trump - +1350 - 6.9%
Joe Biden - -1429 - 93.1%
 
1:32 AM
And even if they won't let us kill you, we'll make you cry. It's on our bumper sticker.
 
The betting sites don't favour Trump.
 
@Cerberus So what? Half of America has thrown in with a monster, asking for more monsters. The problem is worse than ever. This time they knew. They wanted it.
 
@tchrist: In more uplifting news, I see Cameron Peak is 92% contained and Calwood is 85%.
 
What greater evil is there than taking pleasure in hurting others?
 
I've always felt that deliberate cruelty is the one truly unforgivable sin.
 
1:36 AM
circus maximus
 
@tchrist Yes, it is an issue.
 
When their goal is unrelenting cruelty and humiliation, it can never end. They can never have hurt the other side badly enough to stop, because some still live.
It's like some form of toxic masculinity taken to a national level of inflicting pain.
Speak of the devil.
> “Make them cry” turns the phrase specifically into a narrative of power. The president and his followers are so very strong and manly that they can make the liberals lose control of their emotions in the most helpless, ineffectual way. The liberals are babies, maybe, or even worse — feminine. To be made to cry is not about losing or paying. It is about humiliating. It is about strong people humiliating the people they see as weak, for the fun of it and because they can.

“Again” is the second-most interesting word in the phrase. It turns the sentence into a narrative with some backstory:
"strong people humiliating the people they see as weak, for the fun of it and because they can"
I know evil when I see it.
> "Mene mene tekel upharsin." --Graffiti found on an inside White House wall
Unfortunately, Trump can't read מנא מנא תקל ופרסין.
 
1:59 AM
@tchrist Trump is Belshazzar?
 
Yes.
Mene mene counts the votes.
 
Why does the "mene mene" have to be meno mosso?
 
That sounds suspiciously Turkish
Anyway here's a T-shirt with some life advice
 
Belshazzar's feast, or the story of the writing on the wall (chapter 5 in the Book of Daniel) tells how Belshazzar holds a great feast and drinks from the vessels that had been looted in the destruction of the First Temple. A hand appears and writes on the wall. The terrified Belshazzar calls for his wise men, but they are unable to read the writing. The queen advises him to send for Daniel, renowned for his wisdom. Daniel reminds Belshazzar that his father Nebuchadnezzar, when he became arrogant, was thrown down until he learned that God has sovereignty over the kingdom of men. Belshazzar had...
 
2:06 AM
And here is a fun little ditty about elephants and me not fearing them.
 
Everybody should have their forks at ready. It's nearly time.
 
@tchrist oh, pretty coincidentally then
 
Hey what's happening?
 
You're late.
 
How's the palestinian problem working out? Oil in the middle east?
Did the conflict in East Timor get resolved?
Who succeeded Medvedev as President in Russia?
China is probably doing ok right?
Im just visiting from 1990
I don't have long to find out stuff
Any stock picks before I sling shot back?
IBM?
 
2:23 AM
@M.A.R. Uhh...what is this?
@Mitch How did you know about Medvedev??
 
@Cerberus That guy? We were at the academy together in the 70's
Good times
Haha
 
Why did you think he would become president in the future?
 
That's a time traveller joke
 
Oh, hah, hah.
 
You'll get it in about 12 years ago
 
2:30 AM
I'll try to forget, which counts as remembering back in time.
 
See you got it
Any daily affirmations you got for me?
Like "don't eat the yellow snow"
 
I have one: you will destroy a large empire.
 
Ooh sassy
This reminds me of the drone harvest on Telluride
Wait... Sorry... Wrong timeline
Thank God for autocorrect herr
 
Oh, no, not Telluride.
That will have been awful.
 
Yes Telluride
 
2:38 AM
Oh, really?
 
??? If course really. I'm typing words. How is that not a thing?
 
I'm just asking again in case I misheard.
Or had my wrong glasses on.
 
If I were designing life, just hear me out here....
 
Or in case your exotic animal was jumping up and down on your keyboard.
Or screaming in your voice recognitor.
 
I probably would not have thought of animals consuming each other.
 
2:43 AM
Why not?
 
@Cerberus cats are no good at typing . Paws too big
 
Yeah.
Exotic is better.
 
@Cerberus I'm just saying I wouldn't have thought of it. It's pretty wild
 
I suppose it is.
How about things consuming each other?
 
People get all worked up over sex and death and dna-independent cellular organelles, but nobody says anything about how eating became a thing
Maybe I don't hang out in the right places
 
2:49 AM
You're missing your period.
 
IT'S NOT MINE!
 
You need to put a stop to this.
Oh it looks like Mariposa County has gone off to count sheep for the night.
 
@tchrist I'm no longer Gunga Din?
Haha autocorrect
 
You're just kipling it tonight, sirrah.
Never trust an android to pilot your iron horse for you.
 
Hold on gotta pull a rikki out of my tikki tavi
Why don't they make an animated movie out of -that- one?
 
2:56 AM
@tchrist Or Maricopa?
 
Scare the living bejeesus out of ten year olds
 
@Cerberus :)
 
Well?
Utra comitas?
 
Mariposa maripoça miracopa marimacho I can't keep them strait.
 
Which one is a butterfly?
 
2:58 AM
It was a pointless joke, perhap slur.
Why is it that everything looks like a coronavirus outbreak now?
 
It's weird watching TV and movies I'm so worried for everyone who's not wearing a mask.
 
@Mitch Yeah, it's weird.
 
@Mitch Haha I know the feeling.
I'm thinking Captain Janeway is so rude, moving her face close to people to talk to them.
 
But I am sort of ok with the relaxation on hugging
 
No!
Hugging is evil!
 
3:02 AM
Exchanging aerosols and other bodily fluids.
 
It's just immoral.
Sex must be had through a hole in the sheets.
 
To their mortal peril.
 
> Do Orthodox Jews Have Marital Relations Through a Hole in a Sheet?
False
 
You need to wear an N95 or it'll leak through.
I hear they're still running TV commercials with unnatural fleshiness.
 
Burn them!
 
3:09 AM
Like adult friends who you haven't seen for a week used to give hugs. I always thought that weird
 
Never took you for a bachelor Norwegian farmer.
 
I've never taken one either!
 
1797.
Take one down, pass it around....
Those are Georgians, of course.
 
OMG friends. Lady friends. Family lady friends. Perfectly fine people.
It's just a culture I'm not used to
 
Kooties?
 
3:15 AM
And I -live- here
 
Trapped in the hen house?
 
Oh wait ... What year is it?
I mean what time is it in ISO somethety something
 
@Mitch Hmm I'm glad most people wouldn't do that here.
I'm kind of hoping that hugging and kissing will remain at a lower level after the epidemic.
 
3:33 AM
Can you imagine looking back in history at this crazy moment in time with all the reporting going on right now with everybody in masks?
@Cerberus You're German(ic). The Romanic peoples hug.
The Dutch standoffishness is renowned throughout the world.
118k new covid cases here today.
 
Well, I think we are fairly typical for northern Europe.
Scandinavia is more standoffish.
> And as recently as the 1950s, Scott writes, it wasn’t uncommon for an aboriginal tribe in Australia to say hello via genital grabbing. Aussie anthropologist M.J. Meggitt reported that men of the Walbiri, upon visiting each other, would place their penises in their host’s hands. “To refuse a penis,” Scott writes matter of factly, “was a sign of hostility.”
 
@Cerberus Well sure. That's only normal amongst bonobos.
 
I have heard of crotch-grabbing as a greeting in some regions/villages in Spain.
 
Disbelief. That's some weird fraternity freak.
 
That's not what I read.
 
3:40 AM
Show me.
 
But I read it long ago, and I am not sure it has been verified.
I doubt whether I could find it.
 
They're not very hung up about male affection in youths.
You see it in the 16-25yo set a lot.
Like on sports teams or soldiers.
 
Adolescents like to be affectionate.
 
It's a painful process.
dolens
It's a recombinant error.
ad+olor ≠ a+dolor
Do do you grow through stink or sorrow?
It's supposed to be the smelly one not the painful one.
But, well.
 
No smell.
It's related to alimony.
Ol = al.
 
3:57 AM
<BLINK>
So now you're old enough to feed a wife?
 
No, you are being fed in the process of growing up.
 
Why does it look inchoative?
 
Because it is.
 
Good reason.
 
But its inchoative meaning probably mellowed as the years passed.
 
4:08 AM
I guess growth spurts happen then.
 
Cf. senescent, obsolescent.
 
That all feels more like a mark of continuousness than of initiation.
 
Yeah.
It seems the suffix had lost its edge by the classical period.
 
@Cerberus I'm no biblical scholar buy I think I heard the same thing about the old testament, something about getting people by 'taking the thigh's or some such euphemism.
 
Getting → greeting?
Sounds interesting.
 
@M.A.R. Thank you! I really would wish there were many universes, that's more interesting than just having a heat death that ends everything.
@Cerberus Ewww. Looks very odd.
 
Well, if that is their custom.
> In zeven gemeenten in het noorden van Denemarken wordt het openbaar vervoer volledig stilgelegd en moeten alle scholen, restaurants, cafés en sportscholen sluiten omdat een mutatie van het coronavirus van nertsen is overgesprongen op mensen. Ook wordt Denen gevraagd niet van en naar de aangewezen regio’s te reizen. ...

Tot dusver is het gemuteerde virus vastgesteld bij vijf nertsen en twaalf mensen. Gevreesd wordt dat de mutatie resistent is tegen een toekomstig coronavaccin en er dus een volgende epidemie kan ontstaan.
A new mutation in Denmark.
Holland. Looks like closing the cafés at 22.00, then closing them altogether, helped.
 
I recently learned that in XIX century Russia there was a custom of the head of the family having sex with his sons' wives while the sons were away in the army or long-term work projects
In the Russian Empire, snokhachestvo (Russian: снохачество, lit. 'daughter-in-law privileges') referred to sexual relations between a pater familias (bolshak) of a Russian peasant household (dvor) and his daughter-in-law (snokha) during the minority or absence of his son. With a view to attracting additional workers to the household, marriages in rural Russia were frequently contracted when the groom was six or seven years old. During her husband's minority, the bride often had to tolerate advances of her assertive father-in-law. For example, in the middle of the 19th century in Tambov Governorate...
 
Lovely.
 
I never knew about this until several days ago, and it turns out that this was discussed by many Russian writers.
 
4:20 AM
I think it was also customary in some places for the lord of a realm or fiefdom to have sex with daughters of serfs.
 
But in Russia's case it was not an ancient custom, it was frowned upon. It was rather caused by the state's oppressive penchant to take away males for long-term stints in the army (25 years) or in the construction projects.
 
Yeah, be glad you're living now.
 
@Cerberus I can't understand how anybody could think that drinking establishments can be open now.
 
Well, when the numbers are low, it doesn't make much of a difference.
 
Exponential growth never looks like it matters at the start.
 
4:29 AM
I think the reduction in the rate of reproduction of the virus estimated for closing all bars and restaurants was about 0.15.
So you can fluctuate.
In Norway, I think there was no closing time for bars until today. Now it's midnight.
 
I don't know what they're thinking our current effective reproduction rate is. Something like 1.6 or so.
 
That's high.
 
And our positivity rate is now over 11%.
It's not quite so bad in my county, but the Republican counties are flaring badly.
 
I wonder how many votes Trump has lost directly by corona deaths.
 
A bunch of these go from yellow to orange at midnight:
That shuts most businesses down to 25% max capacity.
 
4:35 AM
@Cerberus Not enough.
 
Now, now.
 
So, positivity is very concerning here.
 
4:57 AM
Are we travelling in time here?
 
No, different metrics.
 
Ah, of course.
 
I just noticed that Biden has an actual majority of the popular vote now, not just a plurality.
 
The majority of the plurality?
 
Bets say he has a 94.5% chance of winning.
 
5:05 AM
20:1
 
@skullpatrol 50.5% of the popular vote at current numbers.
That's a majority, not a plurality.
 
Plus or minus?
 
Biden: 73,726,718 votes (50.5%)
Trump: 69,651,725 votes (47.7%)
You can figure out the arithmetic yourself.
 
They should declare Biden the winner by 0.5%
 
@Cerberus Trump will lose. This is not in question any longer. But Trumpism has won.
@skullpatrol The popular vote doesn't matter.
The Compact will eventually prevail. But not yet.
The AP may call it "tonight".
Ere dawn localtime mine.
 
5:16 AM
Is this the largest voter turnout?
 
Certainly.
It's also a record vote for Evil.
The last time the proportion of eligible voters who actually voted was this high was in 1900.
But of course, the population was much smaller then.
 
People want an escape from all the COVID-19 news.
 
It's a damned shame they don't want an escape from all the COVID-19 instead.
 
That would take discipline.
 
Nobody fucking cared. It made no difference. He shot 230,000 Americans on 5th Avenue in broad daylight and 70 million of them still voted for Evil.
 
5:21 AM
@tchrist Beware, we have no certainty yet!
 
North Dakota elected a Republican Congressman already dead of covid.
 
There could be surprises.
And recounts could be granted if the margins are small.
 
It won't matter. Pennsylvania will be too far ahead for any of that to change anything.
 
Most probably.
But not certainly.
 
They live streamed the vote count in Pennsylvania
 
5:31 AM
But not any more?
 
Oh I think they still are.
More than 3 out of 4 of the mail ballots are Biden's, and there are still 175k outstanding.
Trump is only ahead by 22k. He's doomed.
 
5:42 AM
Most probably.
But one can never be certain.
@tchrist By the way, where do you keep track of the elections?
 
@tchrist Thanks.
 
Trump is telling his supporters to attack the polling stations
Make America Great Again
 
6:01 AM
@skullpatrol How very Lincolnesque.
 
He's gotta go out like the gangsta he is.
 
Like Mussolini.
 
In a blaze of glory.
 
@skullpatrol An auto-da-fé?
More like a candle. In the wind.
 
I was thinking more along the lines of this:
 
6:07 AM
But the stench will linger. Linger and fester.
A Hand of Glory is the dried and pickled hand of a hanged man, often specified as being the left (Latin: sinister) hand, or, if the person was hanged for murder, the hand that "did the deed." Old European beliefs attribute great powers to a Hand of Glory combined with a candle made from fat from the corpse of the same malefactor who died on the gallows. The candle so made, lighted, and placed (as if in a candlestick) in the Hand of Glory, would have rendered motionless all persons to whom it was presented. The process for preparing the hand and the candle are described in 18th-century documents...
 
you win
 
6:45 AM
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Q: Why does New Mexico resolve election ties with a game of Poker?

divibisanI just learned today that, according to the New Mexico Constitution, if an election ends in a tie, the race will be decided by a game of chance, either a coin-flip, high-card draw, or a single hand of poker. According to the New York Post, this was discussed during the 2000 election, where Gore e...

 
6:58 AM
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Q: Will we have a winter bash 2020 this year?

BelovedFool(or some other end of year fun?) At the end of last year, there was discussion suggesting that "winter bash 2019" (with the hat thing) was the last one (see here to learn more). Now that December is near, I would like to know if the 2019 winter bash (with the hat thing) was indeed the last one? A...

 
@RegDwigнt I believe you.
@Cerberus I see.
That semantic argument for helfen taking a dative is sounds rather counterintuitive to me. It could, in theory, be extended to lots of other verbs that do take an accusative. Cf: Er schlug mir, Es rettete mir.
Then again, you get the dative with assistieren: Er assistierte mir. Maybe I'm missing something.
 
7:26 AM
 
@tchrist I remember that appears at the end of that Bellairs novel. But that's the only time I've heard of it.
 
8:23 AM
 
 
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9:47 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer (62): "He plays on his mobile phone" or "He plays games on his mobile phone"? by Mohammed Rohan on english.SE
 
10:32 AM
What do we call oil rig workers that fly in, work for 28 days, then fly out, and rest for 28 days?
Rotational shift workers? Fly-in-fly-out workers?
In Russian we call them вахтовики
I found this:
> Certain jobs in the oil and gas industry require that persons work in rotational shifts of 28 days. That means being on site for 28 days and taking a break for the next 28 days.
 
 
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11:48 AM
@Cerberus obviously heed no do permitted to going THE PERSON!
They didn't have a stroke while typing that, they were right in the middle of a bypass surgery
 
Word of the evening: endoscopy tower
 
 
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1:03 PM
@tchrist a lot of weird stuff going on back then
 
2:00 PM
Can this be true? Sounds mad.
 
2:34 PM
@CowperKettle I don't know of that specific incident, but it would not surprise me at all. And there are worse things in the history of the American South.
 
2:45 PM
people will always get away with all kinds of implicit discrimination
 
@Cerberus neither do I. I am actually thinking of buying that book now. It's been a while since I last bought a maths book.
@Cerberus hm, where's my whoosh.
I think Jasper still has it.
Ah no, here it is:
WHOOSH
Anyway. I thnk De Volkskrant, just like all other fake news outlets wondering about the same thing, seem to be completely missing the point.
 
@RegDwigнt I was disparaging your reading skills!
 
For years America has been cutting its international ties with such fervor, dedication, and thoroughness, that as a direct result nobody cares about them anymore.
Much like nobody cares about Africa. It is not a difference, it is quite the same thing.
Yes, they do still write a lot about Africa. But they also do still write a lot about America. Again, same thing, not a distinction we can draw.
America has taught to the world that a) the world has to live without it, and more to the point, b) that it can.
When you take your ball and go home, anyone still watching the game isn't watching you. Simple.
And we discussed as much in this very room a while ago.
Do you think that maybe De Volkskrant should be reading us and not the other way round?
@Cerberus my reading skills need not be disparaged, they do that themselves for free.
 
I agree with you that De Volkskrant is not representing the situation very well.
@RegDwigнt ...but now it turns out you could read it?
 
Well, it has letters and words. I can read letters and words.
My six-year-old godson can.
 
2:55 PM
> Look, there's really not much we can say about The Big Lebowski that hasn't been said already. You either abide The Big Lebowski as the masterfully envisioned madcap stoner epic masterpiece that it is or, well, you're just wrong. And yes, of the Coens' many meditative genre mashups and cinematic experiments, The Big Lebowski is the one that ties their entire filmography together.
 
It's just not a proper language. And it's always about tulips. Is all I'm saying.
 
But I think the reason why Western countries are not yet damning Trump is rather because they don't want to spoil the relationship even further until they know more?
@RegDwigнt What, in particular, stood out in this text?
Was it just that there were some words you didn't know?
 
@Cerberus I dunno. I genuinely believe everyone is just sick and tired at this point. They just shrug and move on. Especially at these times of corona and terrorism.
@Cerberus I knew almost all the words. Only had to look up tulpen and kaas.
 
Another reason is that foreign governments generally try not to meddle if there is still a chance that the situation will be resolved properly, because meddling may have the opposite effect: people often get angry at foreigners interfering with their stuff, and they may be more likely to accept the unjust situation at home in that case.
@RegDwigнt Well then what in particular made this text stand out?
 
Ik weet niet wie van ons de ander voor de gek houdt.
I'm very confused.
 
3:07 PM
You were always that way. Dutch had nothing to do with it.
 
True.
I'm just saying, let's not confuse the matters further. I am the one responsible for doing all the trolling. If we upset the balance, that'll only make everyone lose what little is still left of their minds.
 
That ship has saild.
 
But it has circumnavigated the globe and come back laden with exotic spice.
 
I think it sank.
 
Mmmmmhhhhh.... bananas....
and pineapples....
 
3:11 PM
Nutmeg ftw.
 
That shit's poisonous.
Or maybe venomous.
 
Or maybe just tasty AF
 
Depends on whether they've grown legs on the journey.
 
@RegDwigнt don't confuse the baby with the bathwater
 
Nutmeg and the Dutch have a relationship going back hundreds of years.
 
3:12 PM
@Mitch how is bathwater formed?
 
@RegDwigнt In civilized countries they have packets of instant water. You empty the packet in the receptacle, add the baby for extra flavor, turn on the tap and voila instant water.
I don't know what they do where you are.
 
3:28 PM
Hm. So just add water, you say. That's your solution for everything.
Get it? Solution? Haha I'm so clever.
 
4:26 PM
> Thou blossom bright with autumn dew,
And colored with the heaven’s own blue,
That openest when the quiet light
Succeeds the keen and frosty night.

Thou comest not when violets lean
O’er wandering brooks and springs unseen,
Or columbines, in purple dressed,
Nod o’er the ground-bird’s hidden nest.

Thou waitest late and com’st alone,
When woods are bare and birds are flown,
And frosts and shortening days portend
The aged year is near his end.

Then doth thy sweet and quiet eye
Look through its fringes to the sky,
 
4:42 PM
I'm afraid this election story will drag on and on, in the courts. Vote by mail looks like a bad idea, too prone to loss of bulletins and to violations, because you cannot make sure that voters are not paid, for instance.
> But sudden evening muddles all the air—
There seems no time to want a drink of water.
Nurse looks so far away. And here and there
Music and roses burst through crimson slaughter.
He can’t remember where he saw blue sky.
More blankets. Cold. He’s cold. And yet so hot.
And there’s no light to see the voices by . . .
There is no time to ask—he knows not what.
 
5:24 PM
When you read this sentence, "You know your worth, but they may not yet", what does the pronoun "they" refer to?
Because according to French translation (Google Translate), there is no mention of the pronoun "they".
 
@EnthusiastiC Some other people, probably mentioned earlier in the text
 
Indeed. The scholarship committee
It's an article from the web.
 
Google Translate is not perfect yet
 
It was obvious from the beginning but the translation tricked me (out).
 
Maybe in a couple of years it will be.
 
5:50 PM
@tchrist and @Rob I think we've known that for at least since 1964, when Barry Goldwater ran with the exact same agenda as Trump, and with much the same tricks and tactics, and got 40% of the popular vote.
And remember the voter turnout, too. To beat Goldwater, LBJ like Biden had to become the most voted-for presidential candidate in history until then. Which only made Goldwater the second-most voted-for candidate, I should point out.
Biden may have received the most votes ever, but that only means that Trump has received the second-most votes. He is the second-most popular choice, ever, for running the country.
 
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