This Is Fine

Tim Stone

12:00 AM

Trump lead in Georgia has now fallen to 3635

Napoleon Wilson

@TimStone Now I really want to hear that speech, though. ;-)

Private Pansy

> To repeat myself (and others) a bit here … it’s odd that Trump is once again arguing against the validity of late-counted mail ballots in some states when they’re the only thing that gives him a chance in Arizona (and theoretically, in Nevada)

He really wants his cake and eat it too

Memor-X

@PrivatePansy oh no, he's not arguing that, he's arguing only about the Democrat gains

see the fraud can only happen if the gain is to the democrats, the system is perfect if the gains are GOP

Private Pansy

The 538 liveblog is just giving up on fact checking him lol

> but we’re not really doing any play-by-play because most of what Trump is claiming is false and/or baseless.

Napoleon Wilson

As much as I wouldn't want the Republicans come clean out of all this since they are entirely responsible for it and have furthered it till almost the last second, it is somewhat relieving to see his supporters drop one by one and hopefully make this end in just a sad little troll who's either going to get literally evicted out of his house in January or has to make a coward escape out of the country.

Private Pansy

12:14 AM

@TimStone The continuation of this thread is even more entertaining ^

Memor-X

12:29 AM

@PrivatePansy Diamond: if you even suggest that the Democrats are swiping legal votes from another reality with some sort of space/time object replacement device, i'm going to have you comitted

Private Pansy

I kinda want a Doctor Who fanfic of the Doctor popping up in that courtroom now

Memor-X

@PrivatePansy i'm more thinking Professor Membrane sitting there going "oh yes, it's entirely possible, i built said device myself. however we know it hasn't been used because there are no Fish in Bear Suits outside. trust me, i'm a scientist"

Tim Stone

12:46 AM

> We obtained a deposition shedding new light on the links between Texas AG Ken Paxton and Nate Paul, the developer linked to corruption allegations. Paul hired a woman who sources tell us had an affair with Paxton

Also Bannon's Twitter and YouTube accounts have been suspended after he called for checks notes beheading officials

Jolenealaska

Beheading?? Um, wha??

Wipqozn

1:22 AM

I see Trump's PA lead is only 60k now

Oh Nevada actually provided another less incompetent update

It's still extremely close in Nevada, but his lead is slowly widening.

Only a 3k lead in GA. Maybe it'll actually flip.

Jolenealaska

I am listening to beautiful music at obnoxiously high volume. It's 4:30 pm so as good a time as any. If music can help you through this time, may I recommend:

Beethoven : Concerto pour piano n°3 ( Alice Sara Ott / Orchestre philharmonique de Radio France)

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From a comment 11 hours ago: "this video shows one of the best classical music concerts ever recorded under live conditions"

MBraedley

1:52 AM

Biden only needs a ~60% vote share in the remaining PA ballots to take the state and win the election.

I believe he's been averaging in the 70-80% range.

And Biden just netted 2,500 votes.

Jolenealaska

Jeez

There isn't enough Beethoven for this!

I could die happy tonight

Sterno

I still feel like 2020 is Lucy, Biden is the football, and I'm Charlie Brown

Jolenealaska

2:17 AM

well put

Memor-X

@TimStone link to artcile

> Twitter banned an account associated with Steve Bannon on Thursday and YouTube removed one of his videos after the former Trump adviser called for the beheadings of two federal officials.

Bannon, in a video for his podcast recording, had said he wanted to behead FBI Director Christopher Wray and Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious diseases expert.

> Bannon ... wanted to behead ... Dr. Anthony Fauci

let that sink in

pandemic out of control, 100,000 infected a day record set, nearing 250,000 dead. lets behead the one guy who's been warning against all of these

Jolenealaska

> Bannon said he would “put the heads on pikes” as a “warning to federal bureaucrats,” referencing Tudor-era England.

Hmmpf GoT reference, really

Memor-X

though it would be a different warning, there's over 200,000 he could use instead

Sterno

Literally feels like half the country voted for Joffrey

Memor-X

"and here we see some of the heads of those who died from the COVID Pandemic, a warning to never trust the GOP when it comes to the pandemic"

Sterno

2:25 AM

Remember when 2016 seemed like the worst year? Those were good times.

Tim Stone

It's still 2016, @badp's Eternal 2016

Memor-X

going out with a bang

Jolenealaska

This one (unlike 2016) might end on a high note

Wipqozn

@Sterno The good ol' days of 2016

Sterno

If Wolf Blitzer says "indeed" one more time I'm gonna lose it

Jolenealaska

2:27 AM

I can't wait for John Oliver on Sunday

Sterno

That'll be good, but man, I hope it's after a win so it can have joyful mocking rather than depressed mocking

Jolenealaska

Edited out of a sense of propriety

Wipqozn

TV networks cut away from Trump’s ‘most dishonest speech’ ever theverge.com/2020/11/5/21551991/…

Memor-X

> Hello, i'm John Oliver, no longer in the white void i have been in previous weeks because as we are now, all of us, in hell

Wipqozn

> On CNBC, anchor Shepard Smith said, “We’re interrupting this because what the president of the us is saying in large part is absolutely untrue.”

> NBC News anchor Lester Holt said the president had made “a number of false statements, including the notion that there has been fraudulent voting. There has been no evidence of that,” he said.

> CNN and Fox News continued to carry the speech live, but CNN reporter Daniel Dale, known for his rigorous fact-checking of the president’s statements, tweeted “I’ve read or watched all of Trump’s speeches since 2016. This is the most dishonest speech he has ever given.”

> MSNBC reporter Hayes Brown tweeted that even Twitter had ended the live feed of Trump’s speech in its app, removing the “watch live” option. Twitter didn’t reply to a request for comment Thursday about why it decided to end the feed.

This is why Conservatives dislike honest news reporting folks

Sterno

2:32 AM

Even Rick Santorum was like, "Dude, no"

Memor-X

and then Fox News come out and goes "nope, we can't do it any more. even Tucker and Hannity are telling us to stop"

Wipqozn

Same reason the Canadian Conservative party wants to defund the CBC

Memor-X

meanwhile, OAN drools over the idea that if Trump wins, they might be the only ones to kiss his ass, having all of it's tanned orangey goodness

Private Pansy

I really hope this doesn't become 2020's Florida

Memor-X

@PrivatePansy does it have an estimate of how many are left to count?

like not a %

Jolenealaska

2:42 AM

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Private Pansy

I don't think so. Also I suspect that 99% is like the Windows Vista copy dialog box 99% - it'll stay there perpetually until all votes are counted

SaintWacko

Yeah, it's 99% of projected votes

Wipqozn

@PrivatePansy yeah it's been at 99% since I think yesterday? /

murgatroid99

I'm pretty sure it was lower before

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 Might be. It's been at 99% for a while now, but its also been a long week sooooo, my sense of time is off.

Tim Stone

3:07 AM

@Memor-X About 16000

> MSNBC is reporting that PA Democrats are predicting that Biden will overtake Trump between 4 and 5 am ET

Sterno

I didn't need sleep anyway

Though nothing says you can't overtake him and then get a batch for Trump that puts you back under

(not that it's likely)

Tim Stone

3:24 AM

Yeah, judging by where ballots are still out in PA, not at all likely once we cross that threshold

Wipqozn

@Sterno I'm sure some will arrive for Trump on a USB drive ;)

Tim Stone

Especially since Biden is overperforming in pretty much the whole state

Sterno

Shhhhhh, don't jinx it

Jolenealaska

I predict a stormy night in Philadelphia.

Wipqozn

GA is done to a 2k difference

Definitely going to be a recount no matter what the result

Tim Stone

3:26 AM

Yeah, even if Biden takes the lead in Georgia they won't call it, because military ballots haven't been counted yet

So the margin is too close to know

Sterno

They won't bother to recount if Biden wins a ton of other states

a ton = PA

Tim Stone

I mean I guess the campaign could force it so Trump can claim he barely lost but that would be really dumb

So naturally it'll probably happen

Wipqozn

I meant at the state level. Aren't recounts automatic if a state is really close?

Sterno

Yeah but it costs money

Tim Stone

It depends on the state's election laws

Sterno

3:28 AM

Oh, if it's automatic, maybe not then

Tim Stone

Some have automatic recounts, some let you request a recount under a threshold, etc

Sterno

Georgia doesn't have automatic recounts based on my first google search: ballotpedia.org/Recount_laws_in_Georgia

Wipqozn

I wonder if Nevada will finish counting by December 10th

Sterno

Oh, but the state pays for it. Sucks to be you, GA. You're recounting

Wipqozn

@Sterno They should just demand recounts in all Biden states just to stick it to the libs then

Sterno

3:30 AM

I just keep watching this

Flash The Sloth Laughing Scene - ZOOTOPIA (2016) Movie Clip

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Wipqozn

@Sterno Better than what the fox says

Sterno

Most states have laws on the threshold to recount. Georgia is if within .5% of each other

Okay, that was a bad link to it, but whatever

Jolenealaska

3:44 AM

Trump Is Losing the Election, So He's Trying to Destroy Democracy: A Closer Look

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Tim Stone

> Newly counted Philadelphia ballots: Biden 11,993 (87%) Trump 1,740 (12%) Trump's statewide margin down to 26k and dropping fast...

it's happening dot gif

> Sen. Chris Coons tells @MSNBC that Stacey Abrams brought a plan to him 6 years ago to flip Georgia blue: "We've got a very strong ground game in Georgia because of the leadership of Stacey Abrams."

Gonna assume that most of the Dem leadership just uhhh didn't look at it, then? And left her to do the work with local activists herself?

@TimStone Kornacki says he expects it to be between 1 and 3 am now

Tim Stone

4:13 AM

> Hours before the president went on TV to declare that ballots received after election day are illegitimate, Republicans were pushing PA voters to turn in absentee ballots by tomorrow's deadline—in apparent violation of state law

Unionhawk

yesterday, by Unionhawk

pounding on table

T W O

the most anticipated sequel

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone the CRIMES

@TimStone not sure if its better that DNC didn't mess her up or sad that they didn't give her any resources

Tim Stone

Fair

Unionhawk

Unrelated to everything currently happening, strong recommend to 5-4, a podcast about how much the supreme court sucks which goes into some of the more egregious cases in history like Citizens United v. FEC or Epic Systems v. Lewis westwoodonepodcasts.com/pods/5-4

Jolenealaska

What is this t-shirt referencing?

GodEmperorDune

4:26 AM

@Unionhawk rejected, this isn't ALAB

Jolenealaska

?

I've got heebie-jeebies about Philadelphia tonight.

Memor-X

4:41 AM

> #BREAKING As the vote count in the country's chaotic presidential election continues to imperil his presidency, US ruler Donald Trump has for the first time offered to accept the result if he loses and to hand over power to his son, Donald Trump Jr, who he has named Crown Prince.

^ someone tweeting the events of the US election as if it was in the developing world

Jolenealaska

I took it for serious until about halfway through :)

Tim Stone

> Philly police investigating alleged plot to attack Pennsylvania Convention Center

Jolenealaska

aarrgghhh

Stop. Feeding. My. Paranoia.

I could potentially get my cast off tomorrow. I should really be in bed.

GodEmperorDune

5:38 AM

system of a down has new music for the first time in 15 years to fundraise for humanitarian aid in artsakh

skullpatrol

6:11 AM

Let's get ready people, he's going to want to go out in a blaze of glory.

Jon Bon Jovi - "Blaze of Glory"

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Jolenealaska

6:26 AM

Stephen Rips Up The Monologue And Starts Over After Trump's Heartbreaking Thursday Night Lie Fest

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Tim Stone

@TimStone Lead down to 18,229

Jolenealaska

out of?

sorry

nvm

Jeez

skullpatrol

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Q: Why is vote counting made so laborious in the US?

At the UK General Election in 2015, the constituency of Houghton & Sunderland South, declared its result in under 49 minutes, from close of polling. Polling stations at UK parliamentary elections always operate from 7.00am to 10.00pm. This proud winner, Bridget Phillipson M.P., displays the tim...

49 minutes

GodEmperorDune

6:44 AM

> The 650 parliamentary constituencies have an average electorate of 60 to 70,000 people.

Mad Scientist

I can't believe that shit isn't over yet

GodEmperorDune

i feel most US districts are larger than that

also top answer is correct but leaves out that many of the affected states wanted to process mail in ballots ahead of election day to avoid this very scenario but were prevented from doing so by republican groups

skullpatrol

Local news:

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Q: Will we have a winter bash 2020 this year?

(or some other end of year fun?) At the end of last year, there was discussion suggesting that "winter bash 2019" (with the hat thing) was the last one (see here to learn more). Now that December is near, I would like to know if the 2019 winter bash (with the hat thing) was indeed the last one? A...

discussion winter-bash fun winter-bash-2020

Tim Stone

7:42 AM

Biden is now 665 votes behind Trump in Georgia

With almost 5 million votes counted

Jolenealaska

Are you looking at NYT?

GodEmperorDune

@Jolenealaska decision desk

i think nyt is asleep

Jolenealaska

Got it. That one works for now.

I really should be trying to get some sleep.

But I just can't. I try, but then I just have to know if something has happened in the last 15 minutes.

Eddie Kal

8:23 AM

GA senate race doesn't look like a toss-up. GOP is going to win that one.

Tim Stone

Unless Perdue manages to pass 50% again, both the GA senate races will go to runoff election

Tim Stone

8:40 AM

@TimStone Now 463

Stormblessed

9:30 AM

BIDEN LEADING IN GA BY 917 VOTES NOW

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@EddieKal I wouldn't count Ossoff out totally, Dem enthusiasm should hopefully be really high — the race will determine who wins the Senate.

but yeah generally Dems don't show up at runoffs

Jolenealaska

@Stormblessed Holy shit!

That's a beautiful sight

Rand al'Thor

11:03 AM

What to do when your president has a temper tantrum - Guardian opinion piece

>
> There are several reasons presidents cry. Anyone who has ever had one and been up half the night with it – or all the night with it, night after night – can tell you this. Sometimes presidents cry because they’re tired, sometimes they cry because need their nappy changed, sometimes they cry because they don’t want you to leave them, sometimes they cry because they have a gnawing pain in their tummy, and sometimes they cry because they’re just being impossible that day and you should probably go to bed and leave them to it but somehow you just can’t.

Wipqozn

11:35 AM

@Stormblessed I was not expecting to wake up and see GA flipped but not PA (yet)

@TimStone Honestly I've been waiting for this to happen. I'm confident it's part of why Trump keeps yelling fraud. And if his supporters would kidnap and execute a Governor for him, then why wouldn't that do this too?

Ronan

Police, sowing: Hell yeah

Wipqozn

I see Trump was having a busy night of yelling and lying on twitter last night

... Did he upload his entire speech in 60 second segments?!

No he didn't. Just parts of it where he lied the most, I think.

> NEW: I’m told that President Trump can’t get his messaging straight on counting the votes because he doesn’t understand what “stop the count” means. On a call this morning, an adviser had to explain to him that if they stopped counting votes right now, he would lose the election.

INJECT IT DIRECTLY INTO MY VEEEEEINS

Mad Scientist

it does make much more sense if you translate it to "just cheat already, my minions"

Wipqozn

> I’m told that on the phone call this morning, Trump said he assumed people knew that by “stop the count” he didn’t mean he wanted to stop the count. The adviser had to explain to him that actually people figured he meant he wanted to stop the count when he said “stop the count.”

Elva

slowclap

Ronan

11:46 AM

Where's this coming from?

Wipqozn

@Ronan oh right, chat is terrible now

twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1324505213349335044?s=19

Elva

This is a recurring thing, wasn't there also something he said on twitter was declassified so many many people immediately went "Oh, FOI act, give me that" and then his lawyers basically had to go "When he said 'Declassify X' he did not mean 'Declassify X'" and the judge said "I'm gonna need that straight from him"

Wipqozn

@Elva I didn't realize it got to a judge ads they had that amazing response.

Elva

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/16/judge-trump-russia-probe-declassification-429832

“I think the American public has a right to rely upon what the president says about what his intent is,” said Walton, an appointee of President George W. Bush. “It seems to me that when a president makes an unambiguous statement of what his intent is, I can’t rely upon White House counsel saying, 'Well, that was not his intent.' Maybe White House counsel talked to the president. Maybe they didn’t, but I can’t tell.”

It was about the investigations into the russia thing apparently I forgot that bit

Wipqozn

As did I. I just vaguely remembered it. He just does so much stupid stuff it's hard to keep track of it all.

Ronan

11:55 AM

"When you really think about it, words don't mean things"

Mad Scientist

Rand al'Thor

Trump will be a regular citizen on Twitter when he steps down, beholden to all its rules

Ronan

While I appreciate it happening, the cowardice of doing this to save face only after there aren't any consequences is astounding

Wipqozn

12:11 PM

@Ronan Yes

but also what if Twitter does more against Trump than the courts? that would be quite embarrassing.

Sterno

1:03 PM

If somehow Trump ends up legally challenging all of this and winning, America is done

skullpatrol

Nah, then the lawyers win.

So, the money stays local.

:-)

Here's the Russian perspective:

Wipqozn

@Sterno I'm actually feeling confident he won't win such a legal challenge now.

Also, I guess this concession speech from McCain in 2008 has been trending lately:

John McCain's humble 2008 concession speech

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The contrast between him and Trump is stark

Sterno

@wipqozn Yeah, weird, politicians who care about the country. Haven't seen that in a while

skullpatrol

Refreshing these election results is getting burdensome.

Wipqozn

1:19 PM

@Sterno yeah it's strange. Like something out of the Twilight Zone.

skullpatrol

Watching the world's reaction on the Internet is kinda fun.

Memor-X

@Wipqozn Trump: no you listen to me. when i say Stop the Count, i mean stop counting Democrat votes.......i dont care what you do with them, dump them, burn them. any democrat vote is an illegal vote. only our votes are legal

Wipqozn

@Memor-X That is indeed exactly what he means

skullpatrol

China has been silent.

Memor-X

@skullpatrol only because they are picking fights with Australia

their spokesman was just saying today that we would pay dearly for going along with Washington after they are threating more trade restrictions

skullpatrol

1:24 PM

Yeah, people are fleeing Hong Kong

Wipqozn

1:40 PM

lol so Pence is still standing by Trump

which I suppose he kind of needs to, but certainly shows how terrible he is

Quite a few republicans have spoken out though globalnews.ca/news/7445950/us-election-trump-speech-republicans

ABANDON SHIP

Meanwhile. Kevin McCARTHY is another GOP standing with Trump

twitter.com/atrupar/status/1324044580623392768

> Trump said votes being counted is 'a fraud on the American public' and 'an embarrassment to our county.' Do you think POTUS should be sowing doubt?

> McCARTHY: "Your questions never change ... what POTUS wants to make sure is that every legal vote is counted."

MBraedley

1:56 PM

@Wipqozn "Also, he wants to define what a legal vote is."

Tim Stone

Decision Desk has called PA for Biden as he takes the lead following count updates from Philly

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Wipqozn

THANK YOU ZEUS

@Sterno can get rid of his paper bag now

Faded Giant

Mit dem Angriff Steiners wird das alles in Ordnung kommen.

Unionhawk

We're still like far from over lol

Since it wasn't like a night one unavoidable blowout

Mad Scientist

@FadedGiant Der Angriff Steiners ist nicht erfolgt

Faded Giant

2:04 PM

Es bleiben im Raum: Keitel, Jodl, Krebs, und Burgdorf.

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Yeah, but at least there's no real path to even court shenanigans here

Like they haven't even gotten to the potentially contestable ballots yet

This is still just shit that arrived on time

Mad Scientist

If Nevada and Arizona stay with Biden, there's really no way he can win in the courts.

Wipqozn

@MadScientist Unless the GOP appointed SCOTUS members are just beyond corrupt

which for the record I'd be willing to believe

but considering how many GOP are jumping ship, makes me think that they think those justices aren't corrupt (enough)

Tim Stone

There's not really a practical way to do it

Unionhawk

He did put jared in charge of it apparently

Instead of like any of the guys that did bush v gore

Tim Stone

2:13 PM

If the race was decided on late ballots or something that would be different, but right now it's just the same kind of counting we've always had

Sterno

Well, now Fox News keep replaying the president's speech yesterday and then bringing on commentators to back him up

Mad Scientist

The only way I can see is state governments overriding the electors. Which would be so blatant that it could seriously backfire

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk I mean James Baker even wrote an article being like "Wow this is dumb"

Wipqozn

@MadScientist or faithless electors

Mad Scientist

@Wipqozn that would require a whole lot of them

Wipqozn

2:15 PM

@MadScientist oh right because PA

Tim Stone

@MadScientist This would ostensibly be illegal in PA, and while Republicans do control the legislature, they don't control the Governor, Lt. Governor, or AG, and the Lt. Governor could take them in a fight, so

Anyway it's extremely funny the President made us go on for checks notes pretty much the whole four years talking about how decisively he won

Since Biden is now on track to pick up 2 more electoral points

lmfao

Failson #1 postulates that the explanation of why Democrats "stole" the White House but literally nothing else was that filling in one bubble is faster

Ronan

How solid is the lead now? There was stuff about recounts for <1% differences?

Wipqozn

@Ronan Ignoring recounts, the PA lead is huge.

It'a 20 votes, and biden needed 6

Ronan

Yeah but that's <0.1% margin right?

For the state I mean

Mad Scientist

in PA the lead will only grow

Sterno

2:27 PM

Georgia will likely recount though it probably wouldn't end up mattering either way

Ronan

I keep forgetting that they're counted on a state level rather than county, so 0.1% is still a lot of votes

Like where I live that'd be 700 votes

Xander Henderson

@Ronan In my county, 0.1% would be about 100 votes. :)

Wipqozn

@Ronan and I think it's 0.5% for automatic recount?

Although it might vary state by state?

Sterno

GA has no automatic recount, but it can be requested at the state's cost if within .5%

Trump seems like the kind of dude to request it even if it doesn't matter

Mad Scientist

he does have to pay in that case

Sterno

2:41 PM

Not in Georgia

Napoleon Wilson

@Sterno So you want us to count or to stop counting?

Sterno

Why would I want anyone to stop counting?

Ronan

Start stopping

Napoleon Wilson

The guy, not you "you".

Ronan

Stop starting

Wipqozn

2:41 PM

@Sterno I think he meant that's what they ask trump

Sterno

Ah

Tim Stone

Yeah, Toomey isn't backing Trump's claims that there was voter fraud in PA, so that's a pretty good sign he's done

Wipqozn

I wonder if NC will flip as well

Tim Stone

Nah

Sterno

Very unlikely

Wipqozn

2:42 PM

Okay

Ronan

There's technically enough votes

Sterno

Okay, if Trump goes away, maybe in 2024 I can get back to my pledge to vote for whoever gets rid of Daylight Savings Time

Wipqozn

@Sterno DST is the worst

I also wouldn't be surprised if Trump just runs again in 2024

Napoleon Wilson

@Wipqozn I think the GOP are starting to get sick of him.

And with some kind of moron third party, the chances are probably low.

The chances of running in 2024 were higher if he had won this one. ;-)

But I wouldn't be surprised if he had done away with DST actually.

Elva

Still plenty of facists wanna bes supporting hem

Wipqozn

2:54 PM

Yes

Tim Stone

> Big deal out of AZ: Voters have passed a tax on high earners (+$250K) to fund public schools, 52-48

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Tim

Any update on NC senate race?

If Biden can catch up in NC, that will be good news for senate.

Sterno

Fox News sent out a memo that once Biden is projected winner, they're not allowed to refer to him as President-Elect on-air

Wipqozn

@Sterno lol what a trash station

@TimStone Amazing. Huge win.

I just regret that I didn't bet on Biden when the odds were against him

SO MUCH MONEY I COULD'VE EARNED

Sterno

ONES OF DOLLARS

Napoleon Wilson

3:10 PM

@Elva Sure, but I don't think they are enough. There's also a lot of classic GOP voters among his voters. The guys who'd literally follow him everywhere aren't those whole 49%.

It makes a difference if that is propagated by half of the entire politcal system, or some loony margin party.

MBraedley

@NapoleonWilson Ahem, 47.7%

Napoleon Wilson

Or that.

Jolenealaska

NYT and WaPo are still not calling it :/

That's when it will feel real.

Tim Stone

> Hearing from multiple administration sources that Trump might fire Defense Secretary Mark Esper, as early as today. Maybe CIA Director Gina Haspel too

lmfao

dumb if true

Napoleon Wilson

Hmpf, since the states won't finish their counting it seems we're postponing the whisky drinking at work to monday, when I might not be at work.

Memor-X

3:24 PM

just listening to ABC before i go to bed. a guy is suggesting what Biden would do if he is confirmed as president is present himself as President, get all the security briefings done and treat Trump as an annoying noise

that last bit would be what Trump will become for the next 2 months

SaintWacko

@Memor-X I don't think that would work, but it would certainly be fun

Memor-X

Trump: *in Biden's face* CHEEEEEEEEEEEAT!
Aid: *holds up sign "is your hearing aids on?"*
Trump: CHEEEEEEEEEEEAT!
Biden: *holds up sign "no"*
Trump: CHEEEEEEEEEEEAT!

Wipqozn

@TimStone During his lame duck I suspect he's going to be way more unhinged than ever

In fact, how much damage can he actually do during lame duck if the senate AND house don't support him, due to GOP jumping ship?

Tim Stone

> @IowaSOS page now shows @RitaHartIA leading @millermeeks by 162 votes in #IA02 race

Memor-X

@Wipqozn i was just thinking that. wouldn't it just end up like how 2016 was where no one listened to him or did what he said

@SaintWacko you mean being able to operate a president or being able to just ignore Trump?

SaintWacko

3:33 PM

@Memor-X Being able to operate as president before the inauguration

Memor-X

@SaintWacko yeh i wasn't sure what an incoming president could do before then. do they get the security briefings after inauguration?

SaintWacko

@Memor-X I'm not actually sure

Xander Henderson

Incoming presidents generally start getting briefed before they are inaugurated. They need to be able to hit the ground running, after all.

However, they have no power or ability to enact policy until after inauguration.

Note I said "generally". Presumably, providing briefings to the president-elect is done only with the cooperation of the outgoing executive, and we have seen how little respect Trump seems to have for historical norms and traditions. Who knows what will actually happen, presuming that Biden is declared the winner (and, for example, there are not enough unfaithful electors to sway things, or that no other shenanigans occur).

Elva

I Liiiiiveeeeee

Someone didn't like me saying what I believe is a tautology, ah well

Tim Stone

> Melania Trump reflects on Be Best initiative amid ongoing vote counting

lmao

SaintWacko

3:46 PM

@XanderHenderson I mean, Trump's not going to the briefings, someone may as well

Memor-X

@TimStone meanwhile her Son (or step son) is making threats to republicans

Sterno

My dad can beat up his dad

fredley

Tim Stone

Trying to imagine being the kind of person who would want to wake up and take a big ol' sip of coffee from my mug with Joe Biden's face on it and just no

MBraedley

@fredley twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1324409806719889408?s=20

SaintWacko

3:56 PM

@fredley They're really reaching aren't they

Private Pansy

@fredley That cannot possibly be real, can it?

fredley

@PrivatePansy It is I'm afraid

Memor-X

Guess who's in Phoenix and not yelling at shit on the road

fredley

Tim Stone

> Those Maricopa ballots have probably closed down Trump's path in Arizona. He needed to do much better

Sterno

4:09 PM

What was the percentage he needed? 60?

Tim Stone

I think it was around there, trying to find the exact number

Yeah, I think he needed like 57% but now he needs 61%

Sterno

> president trump is the leader of the USA as as far as im concerned even if biden wins (BY CHEATING) he is still my president and i will only take orders from him and HIM ONLY and if i have to be under bidens rule then i will pack my bags and go away from the us

I need to stop reading Trump's tweet comments

Tim Stone

Napoleon Wilson

@Sterno How's the chance this dude is actually going to pack his bags?

Sterno

@NapoleonWilson What are the chances this dude knows how to pack a bag?

Tim Stone

4:19 PM

> @NateSilver538, who's been more bullish than most on Trump's comeback chances in Arizona, says the latest batch of votes was "really bad news" for the president, and now sees Biden as likelier to prevail there

What uh

What is Nate on? Or is that just normal for him?

Mad Scientist

@TimStone I didn't see him as very bullish there, only mentioning that the mail ballots in Arizona are very different than the mail ballots in the other states where Biden gets a large majority of them

My impression was that everyone was putting AZ into the "who the fuck knows" basket because it was unclear how many ballots even were still there to count

Tim Stone

He described himself as previously "optimistic" about Trump's chances in the clip, which I guess is what that was talking about

But he also looks like he did a line of cocaine or something

Mad Scientist

Looking too closely at this election is probably worse than cocaine

Tim Stone

4:35 PM

> Senate committee talk from Graham: If we keep the Senate which I think we will and I become Budget chairman. I'd like to create a dialogue about how can we finally begin to address the debt

lol these predictable jackasses

SaintWacko

Wow

Mad Scientist

without the senate this is going to be a really frustrating 2-4 years

SaintWacko

Yeah, that's my concern

A Republican senate will make sure that absolutely nothing gets done

ALTHOUGH

With Trump's precedent of abuse of executive orders...

Tim Stone

> Clark ballots are in, Biden doubles lead to 22K in Nevada. It is over

SaintWacko

@TimStone Yep, just saw that the numbers had changed

Tim Stone

4:43 PM

@MadScientist It's certainly possible that Dems pick up the GA runoff seats but they're also Dems so I'm sure they'll sabotage the local people somehow

Toomey is retiring in PA though, Dems might be able to pick up that seat in 2022

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