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11:00
I only have Slave Card.
I have Orson Scott Card.
How's that one different?
He isn't.
@KitFox +1
@KitFox Hence the rhetorical question.
11:00
@JasperLoy Then we are all dead, now that we have seen you.
@RegDwightАΑA Is that what that was?
For our viewers at home: The One Ring = The One Card => The Card = The Ring => we die.
@KitFox I dunno, why not?
So why aren't my calendars checking dates properly?
Didn't I just have those working two weeks ago?
Stupid calendars!
11:02
Two weeks ago is so two weeks ago.
How about the formats?
You should have entered in the calendar that it should work today.
dd/mm/yy?
mm/dd/yyyy?
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@KitFox Perhaps it is time for a refresher course in programming.
yyyy-mm-dd
11:03
mm/pft/tssk.
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@MattЭллен Why laugh? Not funny.
@JasperLoy you're not funny. Gigili was funny
I think it will have to wait until I get to the big screens in my office.
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11:04
@MattЭллен That's what I meant, duh.
I like the colour combination of these tray icons.
@JasperLoy then you know why I laugh!
It seemed relevant.
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@Cerberus Yes I like blue as well.
Yes, blue is very soothing. Vote for me for mod!
11:04
@JasperLoy Really??
@KitFox Haha, you populist...
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@KitFox If blue is soothing, you may consider to change to the blue square as well.
Green is reassuring - vote for me for mod!
It's not easy being green...
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@Cerberus Yes, blue is my favourite colour. One of the reasons I ditched Ubuntu for Debian. Ubuntu is red, Debian is blue.
Of course.
11:05
Kubuntu is blue.
My favourite colour is green.
Ah HA!
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@Cerberus Then use Mint, or openSuse.
It used to be light green, when I was in primary school.
@KitFox indeed, what with nijitsu trained pigs on the loose
11:06
I don't like mint green.
@MattЭллен I had nothing to do with that!
So you say...
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I wonder how Red Hat got so rich doing open source software.
Support.
11:06
yup
My favourite colour used to be like 1 or 6, I think. Something in between.
I had a friend who worked for Red Hat.
@Cerberus Um, what?
Now I am more partial to 2 or 4, I think.
123
456
789
good, good :)
@KitFox As a future mod, you should know this.
@MattЭллен Haha.
11:08
@Cerberus But those colors aren't similar, hence my confusion.
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My favourite blue is of course HTML steelblue.
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You may steal my steelblue.
Oh wait! You're a guy. I forgot you don't see color as well as I do.
@JasperLoy the trick is to make crappy software so people pay for it to actually work, or for someone to explain how to use it.
@KitFox Oh. Yes. True. But my old kind of green just isn't in that picture.
@KitFox I do!
I am not colour blind.
11:09
Sorry, it's genetics.
I see it perfectly!
@KitFox Sorry, it's nonsense.
yesterday, by Cerberus
Racist.
I don't grow hair on my chest, and you don't see color as well.
Jez
Jez
why do people say "what price [NP]?" instead of "what is the price of [NP]?"
11:09
You can't possibly tell what he does and does not see.
Jez
Jez
as far as i can see it's not even an obvious shortening
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@RegDwightАΑA But I still think that Debian Ubuntu is better than Fedora Centos. Maybe Red Hat should switch to using Debian as a base.
I just wanted a shade of green that isn't in that picture, so I had to point to two colours that it was in between.
because they're Non native speakers?
Qualia ( or ), singular "quale" (), from a Latin word meaning for "what sort" or "what kind," is a term used in philosophy to refer to subjective conscious experiences as 'raw feels'. Daniel Dennett writes that qualia is "an unfamiliar term for something that could not be more familiar to each of us: the ways things seem to us." Erwin Schrödinger had this counter-materialist take: "The sensation of colour cannot be accounted for by the physicist's objective picture of light-waves. Could the physiologist account for it, if he had fuller knowledge than he has of the processes in the retina a...
11:10
@MattЭллен That's what she is.
@RegDwightАΑA That is true. But he produces less retinal pigment and fewer cones than I do because he's XY.
@Jez Probably from "what price [is] that statuette?".
@KitFox and? Perhaps that makes him see better.
=> what price's that statuette => what price' that statuette => ...
@RegDwightАΑA Maybe, but it doesn't make him distinguish colors better.
11:11
Why not?
Lower resolution.
Colorwise.
Jez
Jez
@Cerberus doesn't seem to be a good candidate for be elision there. i don't know why, it just doesn't sound right
@RegDwightАΑA well it's subjecttive, but none the less, the resolution of colour would be worse
@KitFox Are these averages or absolutes?
oh, damn, Kit got there first
11:12
@KitFox Have you forgotten how synaesthetic I am?
There are only three kinds of cones. Either he has all three, or he does not. Either all three are functional or not. Is all.
I can pin-point the right colour for numbers, letters, etc. very closely.
@RegDwightАΑA but there is varying quantity
@RegDwightАΑA Right. But that means he is able to see colors.
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@RegDwightАΑA Whoa, when did you become a biologist?
11:13
@MattЭллен well I'm trying to understand. How is that relevant?
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By the way, GIMP has both colorify and colorize.
@RegDwightАΑA maybe I have 100 of each type of cone and if I'd been born XX I'd have 200 of each
@RegDwightАΑA It doesn't mean he can distinguish between fine shadings.
@RegDwightАΑA like pixels on a screen
The letter a, for example, is a very specific shade of green. Or at least two possible shades. In the test, I had to pick the same colour several times, and they looked extremely alike afterwards.
The test also gave me 99 % or so.
11:14
only instead of shape definition it's colour definition
@MattЭллен Yes, I get that. But if the screen is blue, how does it matter if it's 1024*684 or 2000000*1200000?
It might as well be 1*1.
@RegDwightАΑA because you don't get as much activation with fewer neurons
Well, it could be that I am making this all up, just to rile you.
so the definition of what you're seeing isn't as clear
so you can't tell between as many shades
@KitFox I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that someone could have made this all up just to rile you.
11:16
There is a reason that men are much more susceptible to color-blindness.
because we hate choosing wall paper
Haha.
@KitFox how is that relevant?
@RegDwightАΑA No, I'm saying that I am making this all up just to rile you.
Color blindness is a disturbance. We are talking about normal, not abnormal.
11:17
@RegDwightАΑA Right, but normal for men is 50% of normal for women.
These are my results.
I don't know what that means.
I can clearly see the differences between each instance of a a letter.
@KitFox yes, but that's not causation; that's not even correlation. That's just one data point.
11:18
But I had to pick the same shade blind.
user19161
Are there other types of blindness other than actual and colour?
What's "actual" blindness?
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Can't see at all.
They gave me a colour picker, and I had to pick the same shade thrice for each letter, the one that corresponded to my inner eye.
Without seeing what I picked last time, obviously.
@JasperLoy people stop being able to see things in one visual field or other, despite being able to see them, after a stroke
11:19
@JasperLoy yes, your heart can be blind.
@JasperLoy That's actually pretty rare and usually caused by having no eyes.
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@KitFox So what do the blind people see?
I can see that all As are slightly different.
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@RegDwightАΑA The heart does not have eyes, duh.
@JasperLoy Light and dark usually. Sometimes they can detect motion.
11:20
Because it is very hard to pick the same colour twice without reference, and with some time in between.
@JasperLoy the hills do, though.
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@RegDwightАΑA I know that whoosh.
The coolest is blindsight.
The Hills Have Eyes is a 2006 action horror film and remake of Wes Craven's 1977 film The Hills Have Eyes. Written by filmmaking partners Alexandre Aja and Grégory Levasseur of the French horror film Haute Tension, and directed by Aja, the film follows a family which becomes the target of a group of murderous mutants after their car breaks down in the desert. The film was released theatrically in the United States and United Kingdom on March 10, 2006. It earned $15.5 million in its opening weekend in the U.S., where it was originally rated NC-17 for strong gruesome violence, but was late...
That's a phenomenon that occurs in some people with cortical blindness.
11:21
@Kit, can you describe the difference between these three shades?
I see clear differences.
They say they can't see anything, because they can't consciously perceive it, but they can for instance pick the correct object with greater than random chance accuracy.
The first one has a tinge of blue compared to the others.
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@Cerberus Almost not at all.
The right one is a tiny bit lighter and more saturated than the middle one.
@Cerb You must have missed the part where I told Reg that I was trolling.
And yes, I can see the differences between the three.
11:22
@KitFox Oh! Damn you, moderatrix-witch!
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@Cerberus New noun?
For you, yes.
Oh, my little one is awake.
Later!
Bye, moderatrix-witch!
I can clearly see how the fourth Г is more orange, and fewer a Г, than the rest.
11:24
Very perspicacious.
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@RegDwightАΑA Have a cookie.
@RegDwightАΑA I don't believe that in the least.
@Robusto I never asked you what you beleft.
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@RegDwightАΑA The potatoes also have eyes.
@Cerberus There are many shades of orange (or peach) in the bar fragment you failed to trim from your gammas. You failed to gamma-raze.
11:26
@Cerberus I'd just say it's yellowisher.
@Robusto peach? That's salmon!
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Q: "Sit back and relax" but what is "Kick back and relax"?

Muhammad Kashif NadeemI have seen so many times while installing software "Sit Back And Relax" I understand that it means it will take a while to install. Today while installing a software I have seen this "Kick back and relax..." What does it mean? Is this some kind of slang or what? Image:

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@RegDwightАΑA Maybe on your monitor. Rule #1 of web design is this: no colors look the same on any two monitors, even ones you've calibrated yourself.
Jul 27 '11 at 18:53, by RegDwight
Preemptive warning: no XKCD.
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11:29
@RegDwightАΑA My favourite fruit is there too, the banana!
@JasperLoy I thought yours was the anana.
@Robusto hence the second chart. The second chart is for me. The first one is for the rest of you.
@RegDwightАΑA Anyway, I guess you're a girl after all. You called a color "salmon" ...
That was the joke, yes.
Jul 16 at 19:23, by RegDwight ΒВB
This analysis has been brought to you by the Joke Decomposer.
@RegDwightАΑA You're welcome. Someone had to pull the wings off that one, and I'm just glad the lot fell to me to do it.
11:32
You see, it was funny because it was in reply to you being all girly.
I could have posted a picture of Princess Peach, too. That would've been even funnier.
One day, perhaps. One day.
@RegDwightАΑA BTW, can we agree on no JPGs in chat? The artifacting makes this image messy and unpleasant.
@Robusto I wanted to raise the colour gamut a bit.
@RegDwightАΑA I suppose you could say that.
@Cerberus Well, you contaminated your sample.
@RegDwightАΑA Apples and oranges. Mine was a serious academic inquiry; yours was merely an attempt — an attempt, mind you, not an achievement — at humor. JPGs in the service of scientific inquiry are permitted; in the service of a crude lunge at humor, not so much.
Well I'm just saying.
Mar 23 at 18:18, by Robusto
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Same rules for everyone; you know I'm a commie.
Also, no achievement without an attempt. Nothing ventured, nothing gayed.
11:37
Why are you packing a 1911 instead of one of your Kraut guns, like a SIG-Sauer or a Glock? Hier herrscht Ordnung, Herr Dwight.
@Robusto Glock makes you sound like a chicken, that's why.
@RegDwightАΑA No, it makes you sound like a chicken. Me it makes sound like a bell.
Die Sage von der Bremer Gluckhenne (auch: Die Sage der Henne mit den Küken) ist die berühmteste Bremer Volkssage und gilt als Gründungslegende der Hansestadt. Sage Nach angeblich hunderten von Jahren der mündlichen Überlieferung schrieb der Autor Friedrich Wagenfeld die Sage 1844 in seinem Buch Bremens Volkssagen nieder. Inhalt Um das Jahr 778 fuhr eine kleine Gruppe vertriebener Fischer flussabwärts die Weser entlang. Sie waren vor Angriffen geflohen. Nun hatten sie nichts mehr, außer ihre Boote und Netze. Sie wären auch bereit gewesen, diese herzugeben, konnten sie sie doch schnel...
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An obscure word. A Communitesque reference.
Still only ten nominees. Boring!
11:43
> Bormann's edict of 3 January 1941 at first forbade only the use of blackletter typefaces. A second memorandum banned the use of Kurrent, including Sütterlin, which had only been introduced in the 1920s.
@RegDwightАΑA Küken = kuiken (chick)?
LEO.org says that Küken means "cock plug".
Excuse me?
What is that anyway?
It's technical. Get an expert to help.
11:45
Something to fend off roosters?
Those kinky technologists.
Well I sure as hell am not googling for cock plugs.
That's OK.
Ask Mr Shiny.
He has experience in this field, I believe.
@Reg: Every time I see it, the German use of a year without a preposition strikes me again.
It is so unusual.
It strikes many Germans as well.
Id est, some morons use the English approach.
I mean, I finally figured out the lack of preposition in im Herzen Jesu or something.
11:48
@Cerberus You are too sensitive to such lacunae.
@RegDwightАΑA Which means...? In? I thought in was also possible?
@Cerberus Wait, there's a preposition there. Right at the beginning.
@Robusto I don't see your doing it either.
@Cerberus everything is possible. Doesn't mean it should be done. You as a prescriptivist should know.
@Robusto But there's also an hiatus, isn't there?
The reason is that Jesu is a rendering of the Greek genitive, which would be Iêsou.
11:50
@Cerberus that's something even more Germans don't get.
@RegDwightАΑA So in is generally not recommended by style guides?
You will see all kinds of Jesus genitives.
Yeah.
Das Leben Jesu, that's probably the commonest phrase one sees.
@Cerberus I never read a German style guide. I only read German books.
I believe it is taken from Latin.
Really?
Surprising.
11:51
Well, Germans are thrifty people. They don't go around profligately spending prepositions. Just wait. When Greece and Spain run out of prepositions, whom do you think they'll be running to, hat in hand, just begging for a few German prepositions?
And they don't have cases either!
See?
Tossed them like rubbish.
Style guides are for wussies who have the attention span of a Twitterer.
Pah.
11:52
Read a book. Read a hundred. You will figure shit out.
@Cerberus Cases are rubbish.
A good style guide, of which there are few, is a delightful read.
@Robusto Nonsense!
@Robusto that's why English still has them today!
@RegDwightАΑA We are doing our best to get rid of them. Give us a generation or two.
@RegDwightАΑA Of course reading is more important; but still, style books can give you new insights.
11:53
@Robusto you have been at it for centuries.
Look at your word order. It's fixeder than evar.
These things take time.
Word order, but without case markings in most cases.
That is the point of a fixed word order.
Then all is well.
@Robusto A case without case markings...interesting.
@Cerberus The Case of the Missing Case Markings — my next novel.
11:54
Great.
You didn't do that on purpose, did you?
But if you find such a case, then the markings are not missing. In that case, we're OK.
@Cerberus No, I never write novels on purpose. They just happen.
The other thing.
What if I find a suitcase? Would that one suit you?
I'll be sure to give your new book a prominent place in my book case.
@Cerberus A magician never reveals his secrets.
11:56
Nor his accidents.
Like burned or skewered assistants.
@Cerberus In the west, we call them occidents.
A true magician never has secrets to begin with. He just excels in recognizing people for what they are: dumb.
Or, worse, butchered sentences...
@Robusto old! You made that joke on the main site already! It's used! Pah!
@Robusto Now you're our oriental friend.
The yellowish-blue one.
11:57
@RegDwightАΑA It was just a nudge, a reminder of former cleverness. I'm resting on my laurels, but no one seems to notice anymore.
Peter is like that.

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