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12:08 AM
@Gigili Too many good candidates mean a greater possibility of getting two great mods. Kit, Matt, Meta, maybe Robusto soon--all great candidates.
Also: question to watch
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Q: police run down leads

fuaryWhat does it mean when police run down leads ? Could someone show me a dictionary with the definition for this use of run down? Thank you very much!

I'm suspicious.
 
@simchona Makes choosing harder though.
 
@Gigili True, but then...less chances to go wrong!
@waiwai933 Ha! I was right!
I was hoping he'd ask another question so I could be sure, since he's not banned for this question on UE yet
 
@Gigili They've dismantled Joe Paterno's statue at Penn State, but they're going to move it to the university library to help induce people to "keep quiet."
 
1:09 AM
@Robusto Piece by piece? I have no idea how that would help them in inducing student to keep quite.
Because of the missing word?
 
 
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2:19 AM
@Gigili It's a joke. Paterno managed to keep his whole department quiet about the child abuse going on there.
 
 
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user19161
5:32 AM
I have decided who to vote for and the order of the votes. However, they shall be kept secret, shh...
 
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Also, I noticed I have five stars on the star wall now, this is quite amazing!
 
I'm still contemplating running. I might give it a shot.
No harm in trying, I suppose.
 
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I now use my own algorithm to decide on who to vote for on SE.
 
Oh, good.
An algorithm is neat.
 
user19161
First, I pick the three candidates I want to vote for since there are three votes to cast.
 
5:37 AM
OK.
Go on…
 
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Then I order them according to rep. The highest rep user will get the first vote. Simple.
 
If you say so.
 
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Still, one cannot guess who they are, because they don't know about the first step.
 
Yeah.
Well, I think I'll write up my nomination thing tomorrow, and submit it.
 
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OK. Then I will need to rerun my algorithm.
 
5:42 AM
Sure.
 
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@Mahnax Are you going to say Nyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeur?
 
@JasperLoy Nope.
I'll be serious.
If I am elected as a moderator, I will be more serious about everything here.
 
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@Mahnax Oh noes.
 
@JasperLoy Not too serious, but more serious.
 
user19161
@Mahnax Yeah, like reducing mwahahahaha to mwahaha.
 
5:45 AM
@JasperLoy Eh, I don't use either of those.
 
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I read EC's statement and the comments there. I have great difficulty trying to fathom his personality type.
 
I was a little surprised when I read MetaEd's nomination.
 
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Well, his statement makes it clear.
 
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Haha, I just commented to EC that he misspelled "Wiktionary".
 
And this IAdapter fellow…
 
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5:51 AM
I was surprised at EC and IA actually, since they don't seem to do much here, each having less than 1k.
 
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I think a mod should at least have 1k of rep.
 
I think a mod should have a decent bit of rep, at least for a site this old.
Maybe 5k.
But reputation does not necessarily a good moderator make.
 
6:17 AM
Is "in due course" very formal?
You can be assured that you will be contacted in due course for the updates
 
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6:39 AM
@Meysam Well, I think it is alright. It does not sound like you are trying to use a difficult word.
 
@JasperLoy A friend of mine received it in an email from the U.S. embassy indeed.
@JasperLoy, are you not going to nominate yourself?
 
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@Meysam Hmm, I think not.
 
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@Meysam I see. Well, of course, we don't hear it often because it is used only in the situations where that meaning is warranted.
 
@JasperLoy Why? Everybody is doing that. even me!
 
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@Meysam You are nominating yourself?
 
6:48 AM
@JasperLoy Yes, seems silly though
 
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@Meysam Hmm, OK. I wonder if Gigili is also doing so.
 
@JasperLoy I don't know
Will you vote for me?
 
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@Meysam I have to see the entire list of candidates first just before election.
 
@JasperLoy Fair enough! I am not a good candidate; but I will nominate myself.
 
@JasperLoy: EC has a bit of a history on SE
 
6:55 AM
Oh! Hello, folks.
 
Hey mahnax
 
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@Meysam Sure. If you want to nominate yourself, the intention must be to win then. Some people nominate themselves but say they don't really want to win, which does not make sense to me.
 
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@Meysam A comma is preferable to a semicolon there. Also note that I don't really punctuate properly in chat.
 
Ouch, I have a huge blister on the bottom of my foot.
 
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@Mahnax You seem to get blisters and in grown toe nails all the time. Did you follow my advice from 9000 years ago?
 
6:57 AM
lol
If it was that long ago,, maybe he's getting forgetful in his old age?
 
@JasperLoy What advice?
Cut off my feet?
That would solve so many problems and create over 9000 more.
 
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@Mahnax I told you how to cut your nails and how to wear your socks.
 
user19161
@Mahnax No, that will only make you lame.
 
@Mahnax: I half jokingly mention wanting to remove my little toes
 
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6:59 AM
@JourneymanGeek By the way, I really did tell him that.
 
@JasperLoy Right, well, a week of walking for 2 hours per day in awful shoes creates blisters.
 
(I have horrifically wide feet. I barely fit into a size 11 extra wide)
 
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@Mahnax Well, since I have told you about nails and socks, I think I should tell you that you need to get correct shoes as well. Pick the best two adjacent sizes and go for the bigger one.
 
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@JourneymanGeek I am US size 7.
 
@JasperLoy Goodness.
@JasperLoy How tall are you again?
 
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7:02 AM
@Mahnax Is that very small? Oh sorry I forgot I meant 8.
 
user19161
Yes, it is 8 and not 7.
 
@JasperLoy Still tiny, but OK.
 
user19161
@Mahnax Shorter than you.
 
@JasperLoy Alright.
 
user19161
@Mahnax So the best two sizes for me are 7 and 8, and I choose 8.
 
7:03 AM
The best size for me is 12.
 
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@Mahnax Geezis.
 
I am 180cm tall now, I think I am done growing.
 
user19161
@Mahnax No, you are only done at around 20.
 
@JasperLoy Pshaw.
My mother hasn't grown an inch since middle school.
 
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@Mahnax I predict you will have another 10 cm added.
 
7:04 AM
@JasperLoy Goodness no.
I really don't think I'll get any taller than this.
BRB.
Well, goodnight all.
 
7:27 AM
@Robusto It's not funny that they've dismantled Joe Paterno's statue.
 
7:41 AM
No, it's not funny at all.
 
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8:01 AM
@Gigili Not everyone is as funny as me you know.
 
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@Mahnax Good night! I will bring you fresh socks and shoes for your blisters in your dreams!
 
First Robusto responds in a jasperish way, then jasper claim he's the funniest.
I have to reboot my mind, BRB.
 
user19161
8:29 AM
@Gigili Breakfast reaches beyond?
 
9:53 AM
good morning
 
Huzzah
 
Hooray
 
Juhuu
 
Morning!
 
Whoa, 9 candidates.
 
9:57 AM
Wow, was I really up earlier than you guys?
This is sick.
Candidates?
 
Afternoon!
 
For what?
 
facepalm
 
Oh dear, you had a little accident again?
I know it's hard to use your face and your hands all at the same time.
 
@Cerberus I've been awake since 06:30.
 
9:59 AM
Ahhh!
sign of the cross
 
It's ok! calm down. Deep breaths
 
Oh, there is an election?
 
> You are man mate :) – speedyGonzales 1 hour ago
 
@Cerberus Yes. You could be a moderator!
 
Oh God, look at that list.
What a wasp's nest.
And where is @Reg?
 
10:02 AM
he's already a mod
 
I am a mod, in case you haven't been noticing.
 
the current mods are staying
 
Ohh it's for new spots?
OK.
 
Are you sure you're awake?
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10:02 AM
How was I supposed to know?
I only hear about this now.
 
Well it's the top starred message and all, and you've been awake for much longer than all of us combined. So.
Certainly you've read all of the transcript to keep yourself entertained while we were in the Dreamlands.
 
Indeed, what else is there in life?
 
OT: just read the Larry King AMA, and liked it way more than expected.
 
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@Gigili Will you be nominating yourself?
 
10:07 AM
> As qualifications, unverifiable as they are by you, the votee, I will mention my 13-year position as board member of the housing complex I used to live in (33 apartments)
 
@JasperLoy No.
 
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@Cerberus That is relevant though.
 
@RegDwightАΑA I just woke up, silly, and I was away last night. And I don't regularly read transcripts or even stars.
@JasperLoy It is mainly very funny.
Made me chuckle.
 
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Buongiorno Signore @Carlo!
 
Good morning
 
10:09 AM
@Cerberus excuses, excuses. Lame. Where's your nomination?
 
Pah.
 
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@Cerberus Yes, I chuckled as well.
 
I know I cannot represent the community.
 
@Cerberus I don't speak Indonesian.
 
@Cerberus Yeah, nominate yourself!
 
10:09 AM
@Carlo_R. Hey Carlo, will you nominate yourself?
 
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I now have six stars on the star wall. A miracle must be about to happen in my life...
 
My views differ from the consensus, so I couldn't be a moderator.
 
@JasperLoy the six stars are the miracle. Move on.
 
@Cerberus Yes you could! You could be a maverick
 
@Cerberus I don't follow how that's a "so".
 
10:10 AM
> The call for moderators seems connected to recent events.
 
@Gigili - in this period I'm very engages with the work. I cannot.
 
Is this true? Is it Nortonn?
 
@Gigili - Are you candidate?
 
We've been waiting for the elections for a couple months.
 
user19161
10:11 AM
Isn't the mod election triggered by NS?
 
@RegDwightАΑA I agree with Joel and I would go even further. I couldn't do that as a moderator, so it would just be frustrating.
 
It is triggered by the time of the year.
Look at Maths.
And other sites.
 
Ahh OK.
 
I do not think I can vote you. @Gigili
 
10:12 AM
@Carlo_R. Umm, that's sad. Good luck anyway.
 
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@RegDwightАΑA So there is supposed to be election every year?
 
So the election season is summer?
 
There's a queue, and we've been waiting for our turn, and now it's our turn.
 
When all the naughty school boys have time on their hands to troll us?
 
@JasperLoy well yes if the site actually keeps growing.
 
10:12 AM
@Carlo_R. I'm not a candidate, so literally yes, you cannot vote for me.
 
Oh.
 
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@Cerberus Summer is the time where the babes and hunks come out to tan.
 
A queue, I see.
@JasperLoy I don't see any here.
 
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@Cerberus I am here though.
 
@Cerberus where are you looking?
 
10:13 AM
Why I have gained the "Caucus" badge?
 
And tans are for workers or mongrels (like me), the stupidest things ever to aspire to.
 
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@Carlo_R. Because you visited the election page.
 
@Carlo_R. have you read the description of the badge?
 
@RegDwightАΑA So after 10 years, a site like ELU will be moderated by 99 mods?
 
You can also gain a silver badge by actually voting.
 
10:14 AM
@MattЭллен No
 
@JasperLoy I see no sun in this hot room.
 
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@Gigili Yes, because it will have over 9000000 users.
 
@Carlo_R. that would be the first place to start your research :D
 
@RegDwightАΑA I voted for you last election!
 
@Gigili if it keeps growing to need 99 mods, then yes. Except that your math's completely off, as usual. :P
 
10:14 AM
And for the other two moderators.
 
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@Cerberus I am not the sun; I am the hunk. QED.
 
@Cerberus I think those badges are retroactive. You should've got one.
 
In that case, yay!
 
@RegDwightАΑA I flagged you as bah.
 
@Cerberus wait. are we already in hades? Is that why you're here so much? You're making sure we don't escape.
 
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I think I will cast my votes for the election and then I will retire from this site. Yes, I have said this 9000 times.
 
@MattЭллен Hades, the Matrix, whatever you like to call it.
@RegDwightАΑA Yay!
So who is this Speedy Gonzales? I have seen him before, but he seems completely nuts.
 
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@Cerberus I saw his comments on almost all the candidates.
 
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I think he probably had a drop too much.
 
He actually discloses who he'll be voting for.
Transparency!
 
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Also, I am sad that my Wiktionary comment on EC only got one upvote.
 
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I expected it to have 9000 upvotes.
 
@JasperLoy in a couple decades, every comment on this site will have over 9000 upvotes.
 
10:18 AM
@MattЭллен - Thank you for your information.
 
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@RegDwightАΑA And I might be dead, haha!
 
Haha. How funny.
 
@Carlo_R. Always happy to help!
 
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@carlo I see you are the purple square. I am the blue square!
 
Flirty again, huh.
 
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10:20 AM
Nope, just observing the colour of the squares.
 
@MattЭллен Like like a psychotic maniac to me.
 
@JasperLoy You are dark blue
 
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@Meysam It's called steelblue in HTML I think.
 
I would call it greyish blue.
Steel blue, yes, that sounds appropriate too.
 
@Cerberus yeah, you should see what he does to Sylvester the cat
 
10:21 AM
@Meysam that Farsi song has been stuck in my head for ages. I blame you. My wife keeps humming it as well.
 
As long as Sylvester likes it...
@RegDwightАΑA Which one?
I want to hear it.
 
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@RegDwightАΑA That Pepsi is stuck in my stomach.
 
@Cerberus it's hard to tell, he keeps coming back for more.
 
@RegDwightАΑA Which one?
 
Apr 13 at 9:49, by Meysam
@Cerberus take care. You'll never forget it.
 
10:23 AM
@MattЭллен Very hard to tell.
 
@RegDwightАΑA I cannot open youtube now, what's the title?
 
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I have changed my three votes, shh...
 
@RegDwightАΑA Nice hijabs!
 
خاک مهر آیین
 
@RegDwightАΑA Oh, nice
 
10:23 AM
Indeed it is.
 
@RegDwightАΑA It's interesting that the spoken language doesn't matter :)
 
That's how music works.
 
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Music is the food of the soul.
 
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Mathematics is the food of the mind.
 
exactly
 
10:25 AM
food is the food of the stomach
 
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Money is the food itself.
 
Nice.
 
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Why am I so funny today?
 
@Meysam I often don't understand most of the words of a song in a language I know, like English or Dutch.
 
@JasperLoy actually I think it was Leibniz who said that music is nothing but your soul exercising in mathematics.
 
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10:26 AM
@RegDwightАΑA Leibniz is dead. Move on.
 
If you know anything about musical theory, you will know how spot on he was.
 
Understanding the words can make music more interesting and enjoyable, but it is often not necessary, and sometimes even detrimental, when the subject turns out to be too trivial or vulgar.
@RegDwightАΑA Bach, perhaps...
 
> Music is a secret exercise in arithmetic of the soul, unaware of its act of counting. — Gottfried Leibniz.
 
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@RegDwightАΑA Well, for one, I know that the frequency of the note doubles when we jump an octave upwards.
 
@Cerberus no, any music. Britney Spears, too.
The math is the same. That's the amazing part.
 
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10:29 AM
I am surprised there are so many people running for mod this time.
 
how many were there last time?
 
> "When you see the Greek treatises on music, you see elaborate drawings that looked like something out of a geometry textbook," Weiss says. "They weren't musical notes, but they described notes."
 
I know mathematics is involved in musical theory.
 
Xblast time! BBL
 
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Before running for mod, one must learn to walk, and after running successfully, one can start to fly without wings.
 
10:31 AM
@RegDwightАΑA CU
 
Bai!
 
@Cerberus Only in an occulted way.
 
How do you mean?
 
No real musicians think about how math works in music while they're playing it.
Math works in biology, too, but you don't think about how your cells are using math. You just live.
 
but that's not theory
 
10:33 AM
@Robusto Yes, that's what I was saying to Reg. But musicology is quite different, isn't it?
 
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@MattЭллен Musicians do music. Musical theoreticians do musical theory.
 
Even in theory, it's not about the math. It's about, to quote Wallace Stevens in another context, "sounds moving through sudden rightnesses." Etc.
@Cerberus Musicology has nothing to do with music theory, per se. It's more about history.
 
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What is the opposite of music? I think it is noise.
 
@JasperLoy The opposite of music is Fox News. Or politics.
 
music is its own antonym
 
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10:37 AM
There are no comments on IAdapter's election post.
 
clearly his nomination is perfect
 
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I guess there is nothing to comment.
 
How can I use the word say in English? e.g. In say twenty years, it will be done.
 
@Robusto Isn't music theory part of musicology? In any case, I meant the mathematical part.
Musical set theory provides concepts for categorizing musical objects and describing their relationships. Many of the notions were first elaborated by Howard Hanson (1960) in connection with tonal music, and then mostly developed in connection with atonal music by theorists such as Allen Forte (1973), drawing on the work in twelve-tone theory of Milton Babbitt. The concepts of set theory are very general and can be applied to tonal and atonal styles in any equally-tempered tuning system, and to some extent more generally than that. One branch of musical set theory deals with collection...
Like this.
 
@FrankScience it can be used in place of approximately, in some instance
 
10:43 AM
@MattЭллен Is it adjective? and I saw saying express the same meaning.
 
And it is conventionally set off by commas.
 
@FrankScience it can also be used to mean what if: "Say that ball hit me, what would happen next?"
 
It is short for "let's say" or something similar.
@MattЭллен Yeah, that is a different use.
 
@Cerberus yes
 
> If England should attack with, [let's] say, twenty ships, the French fleet must not be left behind in Cherbourg.
 
10:45 AM
@FrankScience it's a verb that's behaving like an adjective
 
It is not really an adjective: it is a parenthetical clause.
 
@Cerberus but you can replace it with approximately or about
 
The first is an adverb, the second a preposition.
 
so the parenthetical clause is behaving like an adjective
 
You can sometimes also use it after the number you are down-playing.
 
10:46 AM
@Cerberus ok, an adverb, I get muddled up
 
> Suppose there were twenty frigates, say, and the Dutch had only fifteen.
@MattЭллен It is not clear what it is...
The only thing that's for sure is that it is originally parenthetical.
 
@Cerberus about is an adverb when it means approximately
 
And I believe style books recommend commas, so I prefer to treat it as such.
 
@Cerberus it means approximately, so it's adverbial
 
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Another new candidate. The most surprising names turn up.
 
10:49 AM
I saw say in many academic articles.
 
@Cerberus sure, keep the commas, include them in the fact that the clause is adverbial
 
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@Cerberus What matters to me is to either use no commas or two but not one.
 
@MattЭллен I can't agree with that reasoning.
 
@Cerberus but the context tells you what it is. how can it not be adverbial?
@Cerberus suppose there were 20 frigates, approximately, and the Dutch had 15
 
Because I'm not sure I would call something that modifies a number an adverb?
 
10:52 AM
@Cerberus unlike approximately?
 
Numbers are just a bit more complicated than adjectives. A number is not a mere adjective.
 
@Cerberus but that's the what if meaning I indicated above, so that's different anyway
 
But I can see why would might want to call about an adverb when it modifies a number.
 
"It's approximately red" vs "It's, let's say, red"
see!
 

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