English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Robusto

00:03

@RegDwigнt Yeah, imagine having to read dance the way you read music.

Xanne

00:23

@RegDwigнt @Robusto en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_rotunda

CowperKettle

@Robusto Oops! Thanks!

Captain Bohemian

how to have everlasting food?

like a thermodynamic process violating a thermodynamic theorem.

Captain Bohemian

01:08

there won't be rain today.

Cerberus

02:03

@RegDwigнt Ein spätes Junowat!!

Cerberus

02:52

@Robusto I use Tasker.

You can use it to automatically set the volume to a certain level as a certain programme is opened.

It's probably more advanced than Automate.

Cerberus

03:17

@Robusto And civilised is not "other than physical"? I am confused.

Xanne

09:15

@CowperKettle It’s not a rotunda, really, because it’s not a circular room in a building. It’s a gazebo—an open-air structure in a garden providing a space with some overhead shelter or definition for outdoor activities, a very elegant gazebo, in this case, to be sure. Probably where the bride and groom stand to get married.

RegDwigнt

11:05

Rotunda (architecture)

A rotunda (from Latin rotundus) is any building with a circular ground plan, and sometimes covered by a dome. It may also refer to a round room within a building (a famous example being the one below the dome of the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C.). The Pantheon in Rome is a famous rotunda. A band rotunda is a circular bandstand, usually with a dome. == Rotunda in Central Europe == A great number of parochial churches were built in this form in the 9th to 11th centuries CE in Central Europe. This type of circular shaped parochial building can be found in great number in Hungary, Poland...

You can put a rotunda on top of your capitol, sure but a) it's already a rotunda before you even start, and b) it's still outside, not inside.

@Xanne a room inside a building can be a rotunda, too, but that doesn't prevent other rotundas from also being rotundas.

A Ford can still be a car even if Mercedes already is.

Captain Bohemian

11:28

making food doesn't require technical knowledge

that means a person who wants to take his profession as food maufacture for humans doesn't need to go to school

you don't need to know the chemical structure of food to make food

maybe it's better for them to recognize and write characters of the language they use to communicate with customers and know how to do arithmetic calculations to sell food.

so they may go to primary school

after graduating from primary school, they can start their profession officially

I am so hungry; food professional, bring me food.

Captain Bohemian

12:01

eating snacks is so uneconomical

it takes time to eat but can't stave off much hunger

Robusto

13:28

@Cerberus I was thrown off by your subsequent reference to her appearance. Yes, civilised is not necessarily a physical attribute, though a manner of dress may partake of both.

@RegDwigнt And it can be a colonnade at the same time. So ...

CERTS IS A BREATH & CANDY MINT

►

Cerberus

@Robusto I mentioned her appearance to explain why I interpreted your "looks good" as not being about her appearance.

Robusto

So I now gather.

Cerberus

Excellent.

Robusto

BTW, Tasker gets worse reviews than Automate.

It also gets some flak as a phishing site, due to the root privileges it asks for.

I dunno. I only want it to do one thing at present. I accomplished that readily enough with Automate. What sorts of things do you do that are more complicated than the functionality provided in Automate?

Cerberus

I have not used Automate: I began with Tasker, because I read it could do a lot more than Automate at the time.

That was when I got my first Android phone, perhaps seven years ago.

Robusto

13:42

Yeah, totally understandable. Go with what you know.

Cerberus

In later years, I kept reading the same thing: Tasker can do much more than the alternatives.

Robusto

This is what made the difference for me: milagromobilemarketing.com/blog/…

Cerberus

When I log into some websites, I get an SMS as 2FA.

Robusto

Someone had already solved my problem using Automate, so that was an easy choice for me.

Cerberus

I have made it so that Tasker processes the SMS, pops up a slider for me to confirm, and then sends the code from the SMS to my computer using Pushbullet.

@Robusto Sure, and you can use Tasker and Automate simultaneously.

I also use Tasker to make a button on my home screen that sets an alarm 8 hours from now.

I have used it to make a widget which displays Telegram messages on my home screen.

Robusto

13:45

I don't know what Telegram is. Some kind of chat app?

Cerberus

Yup, it is like Whatsapp, but better, and not owned by Facebook.

Whenever I copy anything on my phone, a notification appears in the notification drawer, allowing me to share the copied text why any app, or push it directly to my computer, or open it in Firefox (if it is a link).

I use a notification rather than a pop-up, because I don't want it to get in the way.

Robusto

Nice.

Cerberus

Whenever a file changes in a certain folder, that folder is automatically synchronised with my cloud provider of choice (Tasker watches the folder and interacts with a synchronising app).

Etc. etc.

Robusto

The "not owned by Facebook" is certainly a plus.

Cerberus

Yes, and you can use Telegram on your computer without having your phone present.

Robusto

13:48

That's actually pretty nice.

I get tired of emailing shit from my phone to my computer. Images especially.

Cerberus

It automatically shows a thumbnail and snippet from a site when you send someone a link, etc.

@Robusto Then I recommend Pushbullet.

Robusto

I'll check it out.

Cerberus

For incidental communication between phone and computer.

It has a good Tasker plug-in. Might work with Automate as well (I don't know).

Robusto

I don't know either. I just got started with Automate. Looks fairly robust, though, and there are many plugins I totally haven't explored yet.

Cerberus

I also use Tasker to change the time until the screen turns off per app.

Robusto

13:50

Nice.

Cerberus

Automate (formerly Llama) probably has a more intuitive interface.

Robusto

You might think of learning Java at some point so you can make your own Android apps. Maybe make some money.

Cerberus

I might!

They say it is best to start using ehh some integrated programme that lets you create apps for Android.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto what's more, CERTS contains a golden drop of ricin!

Cerberus

But, actually, Tasker lets you create full, installable apps.

Robusto

13:53

@RegDwigнt You've been around Putin for too long.

But thanks for the drive-by!

Cerberus

You can export e.g. a couple of profiles together as an independent app, which you can have other people install.

Robusto

@Cerberus Yeah, but I'm sure there's a lot of overhead that wouldn't be present in a Java app.

Cerberus

I'm sure.

Gigili

@Robusto Java is outdated for that purpose. Learn Flutter, that way you could have both iOS and android output with one code.

Robusto

@Gigili Yeah, but @Cerberus wants nothing to do with iOS.

Anyway, I'm outdated for that purpose, being retired and all.

Gigili

13:59

@Robusto That's unfortunate. I switched to iOS a couple years ago and I always regret not doing it sooner.

Robusto

To get anything like my old job these days I'd have to learn several new frameworks. But then I'd have a job, which would be an epic fail and would cut into my enjoyment of life rather severely.

Gigili

@Robusto Don't say that! You're way ahead of many.

I started learning Flutter recently and it is awesome for designing apps.

Robusto

Ah, I see it's a Google product.

Still, I'm sure you have to have a solid understanding of the inner workings of a mobile phone. I only have an outside-in view at the moment.

I see further that it's a declarative UI, which is certainly consonant with Google. I disliked Angular, but React wasn't bad.

The problem with declarative in Angular was that it didn't scale well. If you have a complicated interface that requires, say, 200 updates based on one action it can get bogged down.

Robusto

14:19

Interesting that Google doesn't call it an Angular-style declarative UI (their own product) but calls it React-style (Facebook origin), since that's what most people have gravitated to at this point.

Xanne

17:26

@RegDwigнt “ Gazebos overlap with pavilions, kiosks,[2] alhambras, belvederes, follies, gloriettes, pergolas, and rotundas.” And some Fords overlap with tin cans.

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Gigili

@Robusto An absolute beginner on the subject.

M.A.R.