@Jasper I wonder if Leogki Geumseong 럭키금성 is the original Korean name, or if it is a transliteration of Lucky Goldstar being the original name (given an aspirational/marketing English name first).

@Færd That's an ELU question!

@Mitch Flags as spam for ELU

@M.A.R. I flagged it too. We cannot let that stand.

Shameless

But as not mentioned in anyone's comments...

'Afghan' is.a loose wool blanket, macrame mostly or maybe an animal skin?

and by analogy with other countries, 'afghani' seems like that's what the people should be

Shrug

-istan is Persian for "place"

Afghanistan is "the place for Afghans"

( there's no conception (in the US) that there's an analogy with neighboring Pakistan for abbreviating it to the UK slur)

The people came first, not the country name

and anyway no one has ever heard of a currency called afghani why would they name it that...

They don't call it the 'amerikaner'...

unless it is a black and white (half moon looking) cookie.

Minorities in an English-speaking world are more likely to take offense to something because they feel like it's their duty to do so.

@M.A.R. You're saying a lot of facts that at best americans have only the vaguest of notions of, and language isn't based on facts.

@M.A.R. How dare you.

I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing, just that I've seen it often.

There's seems to be way too much in the news examples of American majorities taking offense.

I would feel like I'm the one person representing Iran if I don't know the stats, so I would feel like I need to look and feel responsible, especially about things that relate to my people or culture

@Mitch Well that's a different type of taking offense

I'm trying to explain what I think of that OP's friend taking offense to that word.

@Cerberus I have a hard time thinking one way or the other on that. I have no first hand experience, but it seems like even in professional situations it i non-negligeable.

So it's probably not that they really found that offensive, like an outright slur, but that they gave the smallest chance it might be, and acted on it

And God knows what the social media propagates and what they get exposed to

@M.A.R. I agree. It's a very immature, toddlerish manner of offense.

@M.A.R. Wait... we were talking about something with relevance? I forgot where we started.

@Mitch The ELU question you linked, the OP asked why their friend took offense to "Afghani", and I thought you were explaining why it doesn't seem offensive to you, since it doesn't seem to have any connection to any slurs

@M.A.R. Oh thanks. This must be what it's like to have.... that thing where... where you can't... what is that thing.. it's...

something about...

you can't...

And I'm offering my non-researched but based on quite a lot of anecdotal evidence opinion that this feeling of representation was probably why they took offense

words just...

@Mitch and then

it's like old man's thing...

Alzheimer's?

With the sea?

That doesn't sound right.

Alzheimer was a nice guy. He will never be forgotten

@M.A.R. Oh totally. We're all playing rock paper scissors with unknown opponents who aren't there.

@Mitch I win every time

My dark shadow clones are dumb

which means it is always projection.

@M.A.R. haha. the opponents who are myselves in my imagination are no contest against the superiority of me.

Or maybe it was me all along.

Even when my scissors are rocked, I imagine them to be made by Stark Industries so they chew on rocks

Wonders if there's Schwach Industries in MCU

@Cerberus Nice, but ... out of stock.

@Mitch Interesting! In Iran it is definitely more derogatory to call an Afghan person Afghani. It's never used in the news, for example. And the suffix "-i" is a very productive and versatile one in Farsi. I don't see it in the answers there, but maybe it's an Iranian coinage.

@Færd Hmm, yeah, it feels kinda dehumanizing

@Færd What else would you call him?

Like you're not regarding them as a Person but as something/someone with a certain trait

@Robusto "Afghan"

And the news outlets say "Aghan brothers"

@M.A.R. Where I come from an Afghan is either a dog or a shawl.

Yeah, that complicates things

@M.A.R. What about in Farsi?

same thing?

I just gave you the Persian version

@M.A.R. no '-i' ending?

Nope

Isn't that different (in Farsi) from other nationalities?

-i creates adjectives

I mean, lots of things, but an adjective here

Irani, Iraqi, Saudi, Qatari, Pakistani, Azeri, Tehrani. etc etc...

@Mitch We refer to a German Almani, to a Russian Roosi

I guess none of those have an -istan in their country name though

Right, so in Farsi, it's natural to add the '-i' ending for 'person from...'

Turkoman

Even though there shouldn't be a relationship here? I dunno Farsi

@M.A.R. You'd know better than us.

@Mitch Now, Torki is for people from Turkey, or with Turk ethnicity(?). But those ethnic backgrounds in North Iran, we call them Torkaman, not Torkamani

So in Farsi, the 'person from Afghanistan' doesn't follow the usual 'place name + -i' rule?

No, even though it can

And we call someone from Pakistan Pakistani

?? Can?

So the general rule is 'add '-i'', but Afghan and Torkaman are exceptions?

So you say, "Afghani accent"

@Mitch Yep

That's all that needed to be said at the very beginning of all this (at that original question).

-i creates a lot of adjectives. Zamin (Earth) Zamini (Earthling, relating to Earth or the ground)

And also make the distinction between English and Farsi (or Dari)

@Mitch An Afghan already opined on it, and I guess the consensus is it's not offensive

There's also some truth to Henry's answer

@M.A.R. The collection of answers go in different directions.

I should have on-boxed it before.... I can't find my link...

@M.A.R. Wait... what truth? He seems to be saying that someone from Afghanistan -would not- take offense at 'Afghani', right?

Also, to start another thread entirely... well not entirely... mostly the same but tangential.. where was I... oh yeah... what is Farsi for 'Indian'... 'sindi' or something?

Well, I'm from North West, and I've only ever interacted with Afghans on my trips to Mashad, so I don't have much regional background on it. What I do know is "Afghani" can be an honest mistake, simply because the language allows it, and it can also be demeaning to be said by someone with a different nationality, like calling someone "a black"

@Mitch Hendi

Hend = India

The answer from the Afghan fellow has an Afghan as a speaker, I suspect

@Mitch I can't say if "Your friend is probably not an Afghan" is true, but the linguistic description seems accurate

@M.A.R. Ah, so in Afghan languages, this suffix -i is not used?

(I believe the suffix is Arabic anyway, but it is used in various countries around the Near, Middle, and Far East who don't speak Arabic, like Israel, Iran, and Pakistan? And even Bangladesh?).

@Mitch: To paraphrase your post yesterday, "Why are people so fuckin' stupid?"

@Robusto Hmm let me see if I can find another one.

tweakers.net/moederborden/vergelijken/…

The ones in this list should have all the features you need and be of top quality.

Wifi too on the board?

Unnecessary: if you really want that, you can always buy a separate Wifi card or dongle. Even with Wifi built into the motherboard, you'll still need antennae sticking out of the back, I believe.

Which may or may not come with a Wifi motherboard.

tweakers.net/moederborden/vergelijken/…

This is with Wifi.

Hmm. I have a wifi card on my current PC. I suppose I could use that.

Sure.

If you drop the Wifi criterion, you should be able to save quite a bit of money.

BTW, you wondered if the case supported optical drives, and all it needs is a slot. All the mechanics are onboard the drive itself.

@Cerberus Thanks. I appreciate the help.

@Robusto Yeah, it's connected internally to motherboard and power supply.

But you really need the opening.

I'm reasonably sure it will be there. It's such a standard feature.

Not any more!

I saw many cases that don't have one, such as mine.

I don't really know why I ordered the writable one, btw. Habit. Even though I've never burned any optical media since, oh, 1999 or so.

@Cerberus You'd think a full tower would have one at least.

Well, if I were ordering a DVD player, I'd order a writing one, too.

@Robusto More likely than a smaller, case, yeah. But I'm not really up to date.

Perhaps towers don't have them either any more, and they all use external DVD drives now.

@Cerberus Thing is, thumb drives are so much easier and faster.

Exactly.

Flash drives used to be much more expensive, but that is barely the case any more.

And DVDs are much smaller now than the average flash drive.

> External 5.25" Bays: 2

Those are the optical bays. They'll come with a cover in case you don't need them.

Ah, OK.

This is the case you picked?

Yes.

Then you're good.

I couldn't see where those slots would be.

@Cerberus Even Blu-Ray media is only 40 GB or so. It's just easier to get a 64-GB flash drive.

I think the front panel must be a door you can open?

@Robusto Exactly.

@Cerberus Yes. That's normally true.

@Cerberus Lies! It can't be wrong. It's on Wikipedia. If it were wrong, you would've changed it.

@Cerberus of course it doesn't exist in the Harry Potter corpus. Why is that of any relevance.

J. K. Rowling can't even english. Much less latin.

Wikipedia is known to be wrong, and sensationalist.

@RegDwigнt I only change Wikipaedia, not Wiktionary.

@RegDwigнt Hah.

@APerspicaciouslyCuriousMind So is Cerberus. Your point being?

It is a large online corpus that is freely available.

You're a large online corpus that's freely available.

Thank you.

De nada.

Only free on weekdays.

You have a paywall?

He has a paydyke.

Not in the lesbian sense. Though maybe also in the lesbian sense.

play you pay

Here is their complete declension: wiktionary.org/wiki/cuius#Declension.

You no like it you go change it.

Except you didn't even live at the time, so what do you know. Cæsar did live at the time, and lo, he hasn't changed it.

This article is missing a whole book by Stephen King.

Slackers.

Maybe you can add that while you're at it.

Wow.

archimedes.fas.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/…

It seems to actually exist!

It says "rare".

Rare enough that that particular form you gave is never even used once in the HP corpus, but it would seem to be legitimate, as an archaic form.

The normal forms are qui, cuius, cui, quem, quo, etc.

@RegDwigнt Also look at the plural of buttocks while you're at it.

I do still think your case is awfully expensive!

Is it even all metal?

@Cerberus Yeah, but not aluminum. I'm not married to the case. I'd prefer something lighter. That was just an impulse. The problem is there are so MANY choices.

@Robusto assassin?

Yes. Assassin's Creed: Buttocks.

Assassin's creed: "I like big butts and I cannot lie".

Jinx.

Back it up!

I'm twerking on it.

I'm in analysis paralysis about building my next PC.

Too many choices, too much fear of making a mistake.

Sorry for the long wait, I had to check the wall calendar if it was 1992.

It says, 2007.

Why are you building a PC in 2007?

Next up you'll tell me your Honda isn't even flying.

Anyway. In the spirit of being genuinely helpful for once: it does not matter. Anything at all that you do or use will be wrong and obsolete six months from now. That's just how it works.

So just buy whatever as long as it knows how to run Minesweeper and do your tax returns.

@RegDwigнt I just want it to work right now. I'm already using an 8-year-old PC that functions pretty well all around.

Well same here except make it 10 or 12, I can't even remember.

So basically I myself am hoping to start looking for something 64-bit that can run a DAW. Or Firefox.

DAW?

So basically I'll just choose the DAW first and see what specs it requires, add some headroom and then buy the PC according to that.

Digital Audio Workstation.

You of all people should know!

Sorry, initialisms are my bête noire. Who can remember everything.

I stopped remembering the DA- series when my DAT became obsolute.

Dat is unfortunate.

I still have it in my closet.

Obsolute is a lovely word though. So I'm torn.

I couldn't even give it away to the kid I sold all my audio equipment to.

Wait another decade. Everything new is thoroughly forgotten old.

When we moved I got rid of all my vinyl. Like 1200 albums. Because, you know, digital is better. Even the schmucks who know that still want to pay $4,000 for a McIntosh tube amp and $8,000 for a Thorens turntable with a Rabco tone arm and blah blah blah. Fuck 'em. There are only a few cases where I can't find digital recordings of things I want.

Not worth all the fucking aggravation. Not to mention storage space.

Yeah the space is the issue really.

Problem is, they should fucking invent something final for once. First we bought CDs because they took up less space than vinyl. Then we bought MP3 players because they took up less space than CDs. Then we bought memory cards because they took up less space than MP3 players.

So now we're sitting on all them memory cards and all them CDs and all them vinyl records. And ten old iPhones.

To coin a phrase: the fuck.

@RegDwigнt Well, not just that. All vinyl records have surface noise. The only digital recordings that do are ones that are ripped from a turntable. I spent half my fucking life wishing that I could put an end to those snaps and pops and hisses and bullshit. Fuck the RIAA curve. I'm so over that shit.

I just want to have all the things without owning anything.

Really quite a problem with LEGO. And musical instruments.

Crap, I have to run. Dinner calling.

TTYL.

Have a good one.

I only really dropped by to post a video by bro just sent me. Never meant to stay and talk to people!

I need a banjo.

@Robusto OK, so you'd like aluminium. Any other requirements/desires?