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12:23 AM

@Færd Me neither

also, I've never actually seen Tatort. I've just heard it exists.

@RegDwigнt If I ever do watch one, I won't tell you about it. That should prove you right.

12:53 AM

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Q: "Fling in the Hay"

I have trouble finding anything about this. Google offers several quotes at the top of the results: Rowena Cory Daniells, "The King's Bastard", 2016 'You fancy her!' Lence nodded, 'And what's more, I've tasted her sweet fruit.' 'No, you never!' 'Autumn cusp, in the hay after ...

meaning etymology

This guy is so damn deutsch that he even writes vigurative for figurative. Also, he's insufferable. But apparently he fixed vigurative at last.

1:07 AM

@Mitch I just learned what that line with the arrows is called (it's a recent question), but I forgot already...a breadcrumb trail? No matter now...it probably always leads to chicken shit.

Chicken shit vs. a candy house...that seems about right.

@Robusto great word for the combined writing of that guy. Most of what he writes is not even wrong, the left overs is just wrong.

@KannE oh I don't know what '->' means either I was just using it as 'rewrite this one thing as another'

1:31 AM

@RegDwigнt: Here's a hillbilly L'histoire du soldat for you.

The Devil Went Down to Georgia

@Mitch Bitch really is the best answer, IMO, but somebody removed the perjorative tag...but I guess it's not in the sense that it's a synonym of gripe.

1:43 AM

Oh, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary, I like to be liked too...so I'm a chickenshit like everybody else, basically.

3 hours later…

4:39 AM

@Mitch I dared...but I blame you, so I still retain my chickenshit status.

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7:37 AM

@RegDwigнt Dear lord. You torn any hopes I had of learning anything from German TV to shreds. That was violent.

But TV is awful no matter where you go, eh? Sometimes less, sometimes more. I pride myself on not having one in my new apartment. True gems are few and far between in that domain.

I've heard positive things about Türkisch für Anfänger tho. I suppose you haven't seen it?

3 hours later…

10:54 AM

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Matt E. Эллен

@SmokeDetector if I wanted to get fit, I wouldn't spend all my time at a computer. read the room, pal

11:19 AM

@Færd well it depends on what exactly your plan is. If it is to learn German, then just watch movies, and not even necessarily German ones. German dubs of foreign movies are absolutely excellent across the board, hands down the best in the world.

And if your plan is to learn filmmaking techniques or whatever, then you won't find any of that on German TV. There is no skill or talent on display at any point anywhere. Once again I'd turn to films. Werner Herzog and Wim Wenders are two obvious starting points, but there's a ton more that I can recommend. Like, Tom Tykwer, for that matter.

@Cerberus because why you ask me, I wouldn't know. I just use the phrase.

@Robusto good effort by them hillbillies, but no match for Chris de Burgh.

Chris De Burgh - Spanish Train

12:22 PM

@RegDwigнt So my plan is to learn German and also sneak a peep at the social and political culture and whatnot, while having as much fun as possible. Films can help with that for sure. Thanks for the suggestions.

(future reference: German filmmakers)

BWT I already watched the first episode of Türkisch für Anfänger: watch.mhzchoice.com/turkish-for-beginners/season:1/videos/…

Cheesy and sloppy at times, but overall not bad at all! So far I did laugh and blush and scrunch up and roll eyes. Based on the reviews, it's supposed to progress as it proceeds.

It's a story of two radically different families moving in together, parents trying to get along but most children dying to sever the tie. I'm looking forward to what comes next. And I'm going to check your suggestions too.

1 hour later…

Matt E. Эллен

1:26 PM

@Cerberus if the centre keeps siding with the right it will kill everybody.

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1:39 PM

@Færd it's an old show but I've not watched it. It got very favorable reviews back in the day. Ultimately I wasn't very interested in the subject matter. I think it was based on a movie, or maybe the other way around.

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4:49 PM

@KannE haha. I have no personal experience with chickenshit myself so I can't really judge. Chick-fil-a however, is excellent.

Also, app rope-oh of nothing, 'colored girls' was a bit outré when the song came out in the 60s.

5:46 PM

@MattE.Эллен It may be reasonable to say the centre has shifted to the right somewhat.

But you need to work with what the people want; you can only steer them in your direction to some extent.

5:59 PM

Yay! Snow day! I feel sorry for you all that have to work today.

Not really.

I mean, not really, I don't feel that sorry for you.

What's the scandal of the week? "How dare you call it an 'Oxford comma' when no one uses it there."

6:50 PM

My StackExchange watch has arrived.

Now I wonder if I should do an unboxing video.

I hear they are all the rage with kids these days.

@RegDwigнt Is that like where two people are trying to hit each other but fail all the time?

I am not sure. That's my whole problem.

@RegDwigнt also if you turn up the volume so that you can hear the wrapping crinkle and the heavy breathing and lip sounds

Where's @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 when you need him. I could just send the package his way and he can do his ASMR unboxing thing.

@RegDwigнt Some people would kill to have problems like that

Or at least try to punch each other over it

6:53 PM

@Mitch if they would kill, they'd have a whole different kind of problems.

99 problems and the henpecked husband's wife ain't one. @KannE

Did we ever find a single word for that one?

BRB need to wrap up the violin practice.

a whole bunch of one's that are not the answer

@RegDwigнt duh...record that shit

I wanna hear you do:

Chic - Good Times (Atlantic Records 1979)

G|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
D|-----------------------------0h2-------------4-5p4-----------------|
A|--------------------0--2--4-------0--0--0x-00-0---0-0h2------------|
E|-0--0--0x--0-0h2-3---------------------------------------3---------|

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:26 PM

@RegDwigнt It wasn't precisely an unboxing.

@Mitch WTF is that shit. I knew you were mad but not that you were insane.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I do not put it forth as a prerequisite that your unboxing of my watch be precise.

You can get as messy as you want. Put it next to a nutella sammich, that'll only get more views.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Now I am thinking I should have an unboxing channel where the unboxing is as violent as possible. Boxes opened by ripping them to shreds, etc. But I bet someone already does that.

Well of course as a Canadian you'd seek to put your chainsaw to good use.

@Mitch srsly tho WTF is 0h2 and why are all the strings in the wrong order.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I've never used a chainsaw, except in Doom.

Only one additional reason to start now.

In fact if you rip the packages open using a chainsaw you can then complain how the product is all scratched and broken. #sonysucks You'll make a fortune.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:34 PM

I recently bought a set of Sony noise-cancelling blutetooth headphones. But I didn't unbox with a chainsaw because I might need to return them.

See. It'd be much easier to return them had they been all ripped apart.

Actually that's like the best synergy ever. First channel ASMR, second channel chainsaw.

Now that I bet absolutely nobody has done so far.

@Cerberus That's the tragic part. If only everybody just listened to me.

So that one guy on MuseScore posts a suite of orchestral works and writes on all of them the year as 2893. He also says he's from the future. In his name and on his profile.

@RegDwigнt It's tablature for teaching children and bass players how to read music.

I commented that I'm from 2893 as well and I don't know half the instruments he's using. WTF is "violin"? "Trombone"????

I also commented that the score is clearly missing a part for a kurdl.

7:40 PM

@Mitch Yes, it is, but it's closed on Sundays...because of God; there's always a catch.

I think the bass goes lowest string to highest E A D G just like the lowest four on a guitar

Because all musical pieces in the year 2893 feature at least one kurdl part.

It's all the rage.

@Mitch oh is that for a contrabass. Well we were talking violin. In which case it's the exact same letters but in the completely reverse order.

@RegDwigнt 0h2 is (I think) a hammer on to the 2nd fret for, in your terms I suppose, a legato effect (ie not plucked with the right hand) from an A to a B.

I was wondering if they meant half position.

@Mitch It's probably one in a million...approximately.

7:41 PM

@RegDwigнt You were talking violin which might as well be from Mars.

But then I saw the x and was confused.

I think the violin/viola/cello/doubleb ass tunes successive strings by a fifth, but guitar and (rock bass) by fourths

@Mitch well yes, I was talking violin. Then you said, and I quote, "record that shit I wanna hear you do:".

@RegDwigнt x means another effect, I can't remember. I'm dumberer than a bassist

Well on a guitar I would take it to mean you mute the string.

7:44 PM

@RegDwigнt Oh. You read what I write? What kind of poor living habits did your mother teach you?

@Mitch Also dude, "hammer on" is totally in my terms. As is "pull off". Though yes I play classical so I do prefer "legato".

@RegDwigнt hm. it may very well mean that.

@Mitch yes, quarter to nine. But not in Baltimore.

Since you actually read stuff, here is the legend:

| x  Dead note
| h  Hammer-on
| p  Pull-off

so yes, x = muted

That is not the legend.

This is the legend:

John Legend - P.D.A. (We Just Don't Care)

7:46 PM

How is all this supposed to help me 'find my words' (that diabetes misplaced), if all y'all lost "decent"? A synonym of good...that's where I found it. SMH...

@RegDwigнt Martians like you are always so hip until the joint gets passed around and you bogie it.

Who do you think you talking to, Skylar? I am the one who passes the joint.

@KannE You can SYH but don't STB

Also I don't bogie joints. If I did, I'd know the word.

@RegDwigнt Gimme the address already, I've been driving around the block for an hour and musta passed the joint several times.

7:49 PM

Passed out several times maybe.

@RegDwigнt It's the Dunning Kruger effect: those who don't know Dunning and Kruger's names are bound to get embarassed at their parties

@Mitch My dad's name was Fred...hahaha, word association is fun.

E-Rotic - Fred Come To Bed (1995) Videoclip, Music Video, Lyrics Included

@KannE I just found a word for you... oh... no not that one. um... how about... no that one is a little too salty. um how about 'lugubrious'?

There's a fun word association for ya.

7:51 PM

'ya' is Martian for 'your mom'

It is also Spanish for something else.

Tell me already

Sec, I'm still trying to figure out what it means in German.

In Russian it means "I".

waiting

Hey!

So do you have a free online app that creates midi music for you?

Also, Sir Arafat used to be prefixed by a Ya, but I never understood why.

7:53 PM

Can you do it at that site you posted a few days ago?

yes I do have a free online app that creates MIDI music for me.
I do not have a free online app that creates MIDI music for *you*, though.

@Mitch which site? ELU? I post so many sites I lost count.

But yes you can go to either Soundslice or MuseScore which are the two that I use.

Soundslice does it in-browser and I advise against listening to the result.

hold on I'm working on a sir, monsieur and Ararat pun. It's kinda taking a while.

MuseScore, you need to download a desktop application.

@RegDwigнt mf

Yes, you can do mezzo forte in it as well.

Indeed that is the default setting.

7:55 PM

@RegDwigнt how about tiramisú?

I know mi, and I know ti though I call it si. But I never heard of su or ra. Are you still on the contrabass or is this flute now?

you can tuna fish but you can't tune a flute

or can you?

Of course you can.

Cut a bit off and the sound gets higher.

I don't let facts get in the way of what I want

That's why flautists wear chainsaws around their necks.

7:57 PM

@RegDwigнt When I was a kid I made a number of flutes out of bamboo.

Don't you say this room never makes sense.

@Mitch oh, oh, I know, I know! Was it five?

Good guess but no.

Well shit.

Anyway, they all came out sounding like bamboo

That's back to math studies for me.

7:58 PM

very disappointing

Better than sounding like baboon.

Or -- God forbid! -- bassoon.

de babooonibus non est disputandum

Carthago delenda est

Clothes make the man

I had a babooney bus on the short bus.

@RegDwigнt Have you seen a doctor about that?

It wasn't pretty. But I was.

8:00 PM

That's what socialized medicine will get you

a baboon face

That and many other things.

Moonstations, hookers, you name it.

Or -- God forbid! -- bassoon face

Well unsocialized medicine will take your face off and then charge you for it.

I always check the flags, in case it is for myself. I'm usually disappointed

And then put Nick Cage's face on you once you pay.

It's all around broken.

Thanks, Obama.

8:01 PM

I blame Bush

I can flag that.

JEB!

I am definitely flagging that.

No Florida in this chat.

You're awful

I know. What else is new.

Also no I'm not. I'm very pretty. Only the bassoon is not.

8:02 PM

@RegDwigнt Ask the oboe about that first

Oboe is Russian for "both".

I never understood both what. They never specify.

That just shows more of the insanity that is Russian

Well. You can't show less of the insanity that is Russian.

I'm doing that as we speak

No you're showing your insanity not theirs.

I am actually doing both.

Maybe that's what oboe means.

8:04 PM

Spreading yourself thin

That's fitting, since in Russian "oboe" also means "wallpaper".

And you need to spread the glue very thinly lest it falls off.

in summer

There's no Summer in Russia. Only in Firefly.

you can't find good wallpaperists these days

You can find a lot of pauperists tho.

Haha look at this:

Pauperism (Lat. pauper, poor) is a term meaning poverty or generally the state of being poor, but in English usage particularly the condition of being a "pauper", i.e. in receipt of relief administered under the English Poor Laws. From this springs a more general sense, referring to all those who are supported at public expense, whether within or outside of almshouses, and still more generally, to all whose existence is dependent for any considerable period upon charitable assistance, whether this assistance be public or private. In this sense the word is to be distinguished from "poverty".Under...

Main picture: "Homeless sleep near the LUKOIL in Moscow"

See. It all makes sense.

9 mins ago, by RegDwigнt

Don't you say this room never makes sense.

8:07 PM

Like cats sleeping on the stove

@RegDwigнt I feel like I've seen that before.

That's Putin's stove though. I advise against sleeping on it without a Russian passport.

Are Russian passports that warm?

@Mitch weird, I also don't feel like that at all. We should be friends or something.

BRB, a snack is calling me.

@Mitch everything in Russia has to be warm because everything in Russia is so damn cold.

@Mitch In that case I would suggest you kill it before you eat it.

8:19 PM

@Mitch I was losing words like luggage. Go get me...those things...on wheels...in the storage building...to take to the airport...to put clothes in--suitcases!

@Mitch I had no idea Eeyorish was a word. Thank you. I'm happy now.

@KannE Is that what it means? I thought it was more like... oleaginous.

@KannE That's all I do. It's that thing ... that.. you know... goes like... with... those things...and...then...oh, coat hangers.

In German, one euphemism for a gay man is "a warm brother".

I don't know why.

Are gays warm?

If being gay raises your body temperature, I suppose I understand why Russia fights them so hard. They need to buy much less vodka in the winter.

Warmduscher

Well that's kind of the exact opposite in every particular.

Sitzpisser

8:33 PM

That's not a common one at all. Stop asking the Internet. Internet knows nothing about reality.

Stupid internet

Sitzpinkler is way more common than that one, and it's still not common at all.

pinkle. a word only your aunt ever uses. and only when talking to you.

should be flagged on ELU

Pinkle pinkle little star.

So why do you need to make a MIDI, Mitch.

Just listen to Jean-Michel Jarre that should do the trick.

Maybe Vangelis.

Or A-ha.

MC Hammer if you feel all SJW like.

I can't find a good translation of 'pussywhipped' which sounds like the worst dessert topping ever.

8:37 PM

I am not sure MIDI will help you in solving that.

@RegDwigнt man that's old

@RegDwigнt because it's cool

Everything is old.

Look in the mirror.

cool whipped

@RegDwigнt sigh

Wait for MIDI 2.0 then.

They just announced it.

@RegDwigнt I have a really great self-image, but then I look in the mirror.

8:40 PM

Pretty much everything can create MIDI these days. You don't need too specific an app for that really.

My last waltz I wrote on a digital piano on my tablet at 3 in the morning because I couldn't be arsed to get up and walk over to the piano and wake up everybody.

It's like a free app that barely fits two octaves on the screen. There's like a trillion billion of those.

And of course if you're the cool new kid on the block you can just write MIDI with a text editor I suppose.

You only need to type three characters for a note. One byte for note-on, one for which note to play, one for the volume. Then it will play on forever until you send a note-off.

@RegDwigнt 'cool new kid' = 'person with no actual talent'

Well. We are talking about MIDI here.

If the kid had talent they'd be playing a fucking pipe organ rather than installing apps on their phone.

9:25 PM

@RegDwigнt their interface is buggy and the sound, as you say, sucks

but it's free! I'll play with it until I get bored.

OK I'm bored.

9:52 PM

@Mitch it's all in-browser, so they can't just make you load a 150MB soundfont.

That app is really meant for practicing. You look at them notes and then you make the sounds.

If you never want to touch an instrument, or learn what notes it can even produce at all, that's what MuseScore is for.

Tons of people on there who don't know the first thing about music.

Just last night someone uploaded a piece in 3/4. And their time signature said common time. Like WTF.

If that is the kind of effort you want to put in and still manage to sound like Vangelis, then that's the app for you.

@RegDwigнt That's Jazz!

The 2.x version actually runs on my 32-bit Vista PC with 3 MB of hard drive space and no MB of RAM at all.

Sometimes you want to go to a bartender and have them make just the right drink.

Sometimes you go to the bar to get the pineapple and cherry garnish.

Sometimes you want a bottle of tequila and a pizza, all to yourself.

@Mitch well not really, that's the thing. It was not playing against the beat. Like, I have pieces like that myself, where it's a waltz but the figuration in the melody is only 2/4, or 5/8 even. It's a cool effect. And surprisingly hard to play.

For the record, alcohol tastes nasty

Also, mac and cheese.

9:59 PM

But that person was not doing anything of that kind. Their beat was firmly on every third beat. It's just that they didn't know about time signatures, is all.

Flame away, people with no taste

Alcohol doesn't taste nasty, alcohol doesn't taste at all. Alcohol kills your tastebuds with kerosene.

@RegDwigнt People are dumb. They tink music is just a bunch of notes

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