English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Robusto

00:28

I got your IPA right here.

tchrist

00:41

@RegDwigнt My pal in Lisbon was just saying how glad he is he installed AC at his home. So they do have AC in Europe. But his crazy Danish home office in Copenhagen has no AC so his coworkers are suffering. And it's illegal in Denmark to have private AC. Might as well just shoot people.

RegDwigнt

01:30

@tchrist I never said they had no AC in Europe. Rob said that.

I just didn't object. Because he's right.

Also I did mention the ACs on Rome metro and buses. Which were teh awesum.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt La Nature aurait voulu que l'Europe s'arrête aux Pyrénées.

RegDwigнt

@Mitch everybody congratulate Mitch for finding the most disgusting image on all of the Internet. It only took him 50 years but he's done it. Good job, Mitch.

@tchrist I will parse that tomorrow. Goodnight.

tchrist

Nature would have had Europe stop at the P.

It's the French excuse for not taking Iberia into account.

But yeah, Greece and Sicily have to be really hot.

RegDwigнt

C'est pas vrais ça is all I shall say for the moment.

Bonne nuit !

tchrist

02:40

> pat [pæjət], pet [pɛjət], pit [pɪjət]

Feeds

03:47

0

Q: What is a good word to describe someone who wastes extreme talent or intellect

Specially to describe someone who is effortlessly talented but has no interest or understanding of how much potential they have.

single-word-requests

Feeds

06:08

0

Q: Words to describe a potential positive future for a person?

I am describing a person who recent performance has been excellent and who future looks potential What words can be used other than "future looks potential" or "has a bright future" should be used to give an idea of an optimistic impression of the person future.

single-word-requests phrases future-tense

Feeds

08:13

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Q: Word for people who ask for treat but never take one when offered

I'd like to apologize in advance if I don't make sense. I'm not a native English speaker. Anyway, here's the background: Back home, it is common that your friends ask you for a treat for every little thing, just another reason to celebrate. However, there are a few people who ONLY ASK for a tre...

single-word-requests

SmokeDetector

09:12

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, potentially bad ns for domain in body, potentially bad ns for domain in title, +2 more: www.supplentforhealthylifestyle.org/shakra-keto/ by youro on english.SE

Feeds

09:32

0

Q: Bring from subconscious state to conscious

Is there an English word that adaquately describes the action of bringing the subconscious mind to the conscious state? For example: showing a watch to someone that makes them remember a forgotten event from long ago.

single-word-requests

0

Q: Any word for oftenly uttered sentence, argument or question

The word earworm cannot be prescribed here to denote any sentence or argument that is uttered most often by someone because of their habit or nature; earworm means: A catchy song or tune that runs continually through a person's mind. Thus, it is wrong to prescribe such word in this case. F...

single-word-requests phrase-requests

Feeds

10:04

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Q: People who are overselling

What is the word for people that tries to oversell something. They often uses words like excellent, fantastic, exciting, Great (used it 7 times). For context, this particular list of words is from a recruiter in a single email.

single-word-requests

SmokeDetector

11:57

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title: "XYZ.Com's Corporate Identity Set" vs. "Corporate Identity Set of XYZ.Com" by Tumaj Nuri on english.SE

Mitch

13:21

@RegDwigнt Thanks man! I don't deserve your effusive praise.

RegDwigнt

It's okay, you can pay me for it, I don't mind.

Mitch

@tchrist I think that warrants an ELU question about the difference between those who triphthongize those vowels and those who have the pin/pen merger. Who are presumably from the south

@RegDwigнt I just did a direct deposit.

I think we can have a competition today.

Whose country is hotter?

RegDwigнt

Those people from the south should do a dev/null merger.

Mitch

And everybody would win.

The competition.

not real life

RegDwigнt

Did you just say "who's" for "whose", you pineapple.

Mitch

13:23

@RegDwigнt I did, and I meant it to sting

But I will fix it now.

RegDwigнt

I'm Elton John. Sting's over there.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Only idiot native speakers make such mistakes

RegDwigнt

I know.

Mitch

like stop dropping, and rolling

RegDwigнt

The King rocks, but he doesn't roll.

Mitch

13:25

@RegDwigнt You, sir, are no Dan Quayle.

@RegDwigнt But does he reel and a rock?

Great balls of marrying your 13 year old cousin

RegDwigнt

Native speakers suck at English.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt THat sounds like a really good start of a song lyric...

scribble scribble scribble

RegDwigнt

I've been fighting them native speakers on that law question for hours. And they still won't listen.

@Mitch it's a wordplay on "the king rules but he doesn't govern". Which I believe is used by historians to describe some bullshit or some such.

Mitch

It's like I'm Ice Cube, recording the gritty details of the life of a straight A student who lives in a neighborhood of crack dealers

RegDwigнt

We learned it in school, and then a mate of mine who was a big fan of Elvis' came up with the rewording.

Mitch

13:28

You're on crack, right? I want to make sure the details are right. For authenticity.

@RegDwigнt Law?

@RegDwigнt effing Dunning-Krugerrands

RegDwigнt

I'm not on crack no. It's just fucking hot, is all.

Mitch

Because the do something they think they know something

RegDwigнt

0

Q: Is it correct to say "of all the things money can't buy, law isn't one"?

Is "Of all the things money can't buy, Law isn't one" grammatically correct?

grammar grammaticality phrase-requests

Fuck that sentence and everyone who thinks it's fine.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Depends on the king, what kind of management style he has. I'd say 'they have' but a femal king makes as much sense as a democratically elected queen, like QUeen Amidala. What I'm saying is Star Wars is stupid.

@RegDwigнt You learned a whole bunch of things in school that no English speaker would ever learn, right minded or not. Because they're dumb

@RegDwigнt So you've made the first move in the game. Well done, sir.

My move.

It's so hot that I have the air conditioning on.

I know that doesn't sound like much but I want to start slow

@RegDwigнt I'm fucked then

It's totally grammatically correct. But it is a bit too nested in negations. So hard to determine semantics.

It does mean law can be bought

RegDwigнt

Yes it's grammatically correct. And yes that's what it is supposed to mean. None of that is my issue with it.

The negations aren't the issue, either.

The word "all" is.

Mitch

13:35

Oh... you're just saying that it is a sentence that should be derogated via vague sexual innuendo. I don't disagree.

RegDwigнt

That is what is wrong with the sentence.

Mitch

I'm worried about the use of 'the'

RegDwigнt

Lemme just post a few example sentences, take you on a ride. See now long it takes you before you jump off.

Of all the primates, gorillas are the biggest.
Of all the palaces, the Louvre is my favorite.
Of all the primates, crocodiles are not primates.
Of all my favorite palaces, David Hasselhoff isn't one.
Of all the gaming consoles on the market, Reebok isn't one.
Of all my closest friends, Osama bin Laden never was one.
Of all the apples on the table, law isn't one.
Of all the things I can't buy, law is a thing I can buy.

Mitch

It's a dangling participle, which is stylistically misleading, but not logically wrong.

RegDwigнt

It's not a dangling participle, no.

It's a direct modifier. It couldn't be more direct if it tried.

Mitch

13:39

Fine, your case is made., you're right. Now how is the weather where you are? There's a competition going on.

RegDwigнt

There is no weather here, only hell.

Mitch

makes note of patient intransigence

So...

how do you feel about that?

Pretty heated I suppose.

RegDwigнt

Well in my capacity as Satan I'm enjoying it quite a bit I must say.

Mitch

chuckles to self at academic punnery

takes a couple more seroquel

oh what the hell another espresso bean, it's before noon, amirite?!!

@RegDwigнt You're Satan? Oh. I have _a lot _ of questions for you.

RegDwigнt

Pick a number.

Mitch

13:42

Like HOW IS THE WEATHER IN YOUR COUNTRY?

RegDwigнt

666 degrees, stable.

Mitch

Gah, can't keep effing Satan on topic, what hope is there.

@RegDwigнt Oh. hmm. thanks. noted.

RegDwigнt

You shouldn't be effing with Satan to begin with.

Mitch

I saw that episode of Futurama. Don't tell me how to eff Satan

Or rather, you can tell me how to eff Satan, but you can't judge me on how I do it

Or rather, you can judge me on that, but you can't really expect me to listen.

Feeds

1

Q: Shorter "as much as possible" synonym or abbreviation?

I'm looking for an alternate way to replace "as much as possible" with a functional, preferably shorter equivalent in the following sentence: Camera set orthogonal wrt. COP as much as possible. Any ideas?

single-word-requests abbreviations

RegDwigнt

13:44

He gave me mechanical ears,
Effective though just a bit garish
In return without shedding a tear I agreed
That I'd give him my hand

(Real Robot Devil) IN MARRIAGE

Mitch

Or rather.. augh, fine, it's hot as hell there.

Did you just rhyme 'garish' and 'marriage'?

RegDwigнt

No, Matt Groening did.

Mitch

Next thing you'll be doing is rhyming 'range' and 'purple'

RegDwigнt

Also yes I'm Satan I can rhyme anything, what are you gonna do about it, sucker.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt sends link to plagiarism police

RegDwigнt

13:45

The entire police are here in hell with me already.

Gigili

Today is a good day to die.

RegDwigнt

Tomorrow never dies.

Mitch

So long suckers!

►

@Gigili Because the heat will distract everybody?

Because some many other people will feel just as bad?

Gigili

For no reason.

What game do you play there days? @RegD

Be specific.

RegDwigнt

Mostly Fallout Shelter on my Switch.

Don't have much time for anything else.

I have a backlog of like maybe 400 titles? On three different consoles...

tchrist

13:58

@Mitch SINGLE WORD REQUEST

Also, just because you have three vowels in a row doesn't mean you have a triphthong: they need to be tautosyllabic.

Compare "why" with "buyer".

Or Baby Huey.

Mitch

@tchrist for peeyun, it's not ...tautosyllabic?

@tchrist /wa/ vs /bar/ haha not my accent

tchrist

I'm a northerner. I hear it as two syllables.

Don't pee on me.

Mitch

I ain't no holla-on-your-back girl

I'm pretty sure that's not what holla means

@tchrist ooh, so how hot is it in your country?

there's a contest going on.

we're all losing

tchrist

Portugal may break their record.

Old record was 117.

express.co.uk/news/weather/998105/…

> SPAIN is currently baking in a record-breaking heatwave. But how hot is it in Spain now and what is 48 degrees Celsius in Fahrenheit?

Not that Portugal lies in Spain, but it's the same weather system.

Mitch

I heard somewhere that it is illegal to have private AC in (some weirdo country in) Europe.

I'm all for public AC

but also window screens for days when you just ant a breeze

@tchrist weather stops at the border

I'm pretty sure, as relative to Spain, that as refreshing as the highlands in Scotland are right now, I bet they're pretty uncomfortable at 35C

tchrist

14:13

Sevilla and Lisboa are not in dry deserts. Nor in wet ones. It's not like they're in the Arid Zona.

dodrantal dudrental duderennetall

nytimes.com/2018/07/19/magazine/the-water-wars-of-arizona.html

Mitch

14:31

mommy

tchrist

@Mitch airnow.gov/index.cfm?action=topics.smoke_wildfires

Feeds

14:47

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Q: Heternormative for nuclear family structure?

Heternormative is used to refer to a world view that promotes heterosexuality as normal or preferred. It is usually in reference to sexual orientation. Is there a separate word for describing a traditional nuclear family of mother, father, and child, as opposed to single parents, elective co-pare...

single-word-requests kinship-terms political-correctness gender-politics

tchrist

Heliocentric.

tchrist

15:05

Helicocentric.

tchrist

15:22

0

Q: Can we refer to windows cmd as a terminal?

People always call it command prompt or just cmd. But, saying terminal is so much more elegant and... I don't know. Can I call cmd a terminal without getting hated? Edit: To not get this downvoted and deleted from SO, i ask another question: is CMD a terminal? Edit 2: How did this get on Engli...

programming

hettend

Mitch

15:37

@tchrist We have the best fires

Southern Spain is pretty good at them too

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch Wow fire snake dragon thingy

Mitch

We have good earthquakes. But Japan and Italy and Nepal have some good ones

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch Japan's are gooder

We also have best earthquakes

Mitch

Hurricanes, sure, and Taiwan and SE Asia gets some good cyclones.

It's not like the US has some monopoly on tornadoes.

Or flooding

tchrist

You're conflating too many swirligigs.

Mitch

15:40

Or snowstorms.

But what makes America great?

We have them all

tchrist

Tetons.

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Oh yeah, pretty strong ones

But America has them all in one package.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I hate premium packages in games

Stuff for fancypants to show off

Fancypantses?

Fancypantae

Mitch

I mean, it's a big country, so maybe you just get earthquakes and brushfires in one area, but Hurricanes and flooding in another.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch If you close it like a book, they will solve each other

Mitch

15:43

So maybe you'd consider that cheating in the contest of who's got the worst natural disasters.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

But you'd get lots of water vapor

Mitch

But within the borders we got it all.

Blistering heat wave? We got it.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch I quit. This is so pay-to-win

Mitch

Crippling snow storm? Yeah

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

What about blistering snowstorm?

tchrist

15:44

@Mitch Most of the country is crippled by a half-inch of snow.

Mitch

Morons in the government? Everybody has some.

tchrist

Wusserie.

Mitch

Long lines at Starbuck's? We're all in it together.

Ooh... shooting ramapages? Sigh, we're pretty good at that.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

No Starbucks lines here

CowperKettle

Evening, Muhammad

Mitch

15:46

Bloody government coups? OK, we suck at that, haven't had that for a while. We used to be good at that.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

\o

Pseudohuman

o/

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch Well, you helped us with one

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ +1.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch Is that sarcasm? Are you implying the egg Earth hoax is real?

CowperKettle

15:47

No lines at all in Yekaterinburg

I had some coffee during a rainstorm a couple of hours back ))

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ You need to up your game. What special natural disasters do you have? Doesn't have to be unique. Earthquakes... um... what else you got?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CowperKettle Imma take your word for it, 'cause I can't see the image

@Mitch We already ruined our forests, so we're way ahead in the game

CowperKettle

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ There's a naked girl there. A bicycle. A cup of coffee. And big glass window with drops of rain.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@CowperKettle so philosophical

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Oh. Hm. Wait, 1951 was bloodless. 1978 was ... OK though not intentional on our part, yes, we had a lot to blame.

@CowperKettle OK then you can't count that as a natural disaster.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

15:51

cough intentional cough

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ natural disaster. that's man-made.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Dude, synthetic disasters are the big thing now

Like dollar prices. One dollar is 120,000 rials now

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I heard. Is it getting worse?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch I guess so

Mitch

for 'getting' = any # of derivatives

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

15:53

I heard this economist guy say it's a result of the government trying to suppress inflation instead of trying to fix it.

Every once in a while, the damn dam breaks, and prices skyrocket

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I slipped. I was thinking of the US.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

So your government morons apparently do listen to economists, and even then synthetic disasters happen.

Mitch

It's always about us.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Our government morons are moroner and don't listen to economists

Mitch

The US is the protagonist in every movie

whether it was written that way or not

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

15:55

@Mitch The US tried really hard to liberate us from ourselves, but we liberated back

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ not at the moment

but currently the economy here is great so mistakes don't show up

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch Trying to up your synthetic disaster stats huh

WELL FAT CHANCE

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ there's no disaster being even considered at the moment.

but there's talk about 'if a few bad things happen, a lot more could follow' because of what's being done now.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch well, the non-crispy cheeto thing could get reelected

@Mitch And if those follow-up things happen?

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ sure. but most worries are hypotheticals, unless you're a immigrant, or need healthcare, or are in the 90%, or are a woman, or a whole bunch of things, and then it's not necessarily a disaster but things look bad real soon. Unless you're an immigrant child and then you're screwed.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Oh, economics-wise, no economist who is actually smart thinks tariffs are anywhere near a good idea economically (they might be good for cultural reasons, like to preserve Japanese rice in Japan). But also, re all the huge tax cuts in the US and the huge cuts in service (except for the military), economists say that's all idiotic and totally the wrong direction.

Most intelligent economists say that when the economy is really good (like it is here in the US), raise taxes a lot and pay down debt. But when things are falling apart, that's when to reduce taxes and pump money into the economy. The current admin is doing things bass ackwards.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

16:05

Now I want Japanese rice

Mitch

It's pretty good!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Iran rice is the best

Mitch

well, it's good. Good in it's own way like other places make good things

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I've heard.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I just wanted to try something inferior

@Mitch I like how Iran is raising taxes when things are falling apart

Mitch

I've heard that other places may grow pretty good rice, but that Iran knows how to cook it better.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

16:07

I might tell you the secret recipe

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ That's when the government should borrow lots of money and pump it into services for the population, creating jobs for people. Then once the economy recovers, supposedly the government will be in a better position to pay back those banks.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Well, 80 percent of Iranian dishes nowadays use rice, so

Mitch

I don't actually know anything. I'm just repeating what I hear. And it doesn't sound totally wrong.

CowperKettle

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I read that things are going pear-shaped in Iran. I'm very sorry.

Mitch

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Oh?

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ What's one that doesn't involve rice?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

16:09

@Mitch Well, what I've heard is that the government is corrupt and doing better than alright

Mitch

Oh. America is also great as to starch.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mitch shorba

Not sure about the romanization

Mitch

We make rice and potatoes_ and wheat and corn

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Chorba

Chorba is one of various kinds of soup or stew found in national cuisines across the Balkans, North Africa, Central Europe, Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Middle East and the Indian subcontinent. == Spelling variants == Chorba or Shorba is considered by sources to be an Arab word, derived from the Arabic word meaning gravyAlthough an other source states it to be derived from a Persian term شوربا from shor ("salty, brackish") and ba/ab, آب، ما ("water/stew"). Or a cognate of Persian and Arabic. Chorba is also called shorba (Persian: شوربا‎, Arabic: شوربة Amharic: ሾርባ), shorwa (Pashto: شوروا‎),...

Mitch

but those aren't natural disasters so it's sort of another competition altogether.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

16:10

The image looks gross though

@Mitch that's too much

We also have these special kinds of noodle soup or soup

With lots and lots of vegetables

Usually yummy

Even with non-veggie standard

That makes up for 10 percent of non-rice dishes

RegDwigнt

The image looks delicious. I'd dive right in.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Færd I don't have VPN so you should explain it. Too Censored; Didn't Watch

RegDwigнt

You want a gross image, look up cazu marzu.

@Robusto I've been thinking about your comment for two days now but I still don't get it.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@RegDwigнt It looked like a normal mud pie but the description was, well.

RegDwigнt

Yeah the cazu marzu mafia always hires the best photographers to lull you into a false sense of security.

Mitch

16:23

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ hm...now that I think about it, when driving across multiple states, all you see is corn and soybeans. So maybe all that other stuff is imported from Potatostan

RegDwigнt

And it's not even proper corn. It's sweet corn...

Mitch

the alternative to sweet corn is ... cow corn?

for cows

RegDwigнt

Yeah I dunno what they call it in your neck of the woods. In German it's called fodder corn and yeah they feed it to cattle and pigs and whatnot.

Idiots.

It tastes so much better.

I'd kill for some fodder corn now.

Mitch

Oh

RegDwigнt

Thing is, even of your "non-cow" corn, you still feed like two thirds to cows.

63% sez wiki.

tchrist

16:37

@Konrad: Thanks - I know what “ἀπὸ” means, and what it takes, but my point is that, in this case, the genitive admits - at least in theory - an ellipsis of the form "ἀπὸ [missing] τῶν νεκρῶν" which would be consistent with Mr Lister's suggestion. In Latin that can't work because mortuis is ablative rather than genitive. — psmears 40 mins ago

That must be some sort of Cerberal abstrusion.

RegDwigнt

Apotennekron?

I am twelve and what is this?

tchrist

Yes.

From the deads.

Something like that.

I have no idea. It's abstruse.

RegDwigнt

Well it's psmears. He like studied this shit and all.

tchrist

Hablative cases are too chatty anyway.

RegDwigнt

Wait till you see the blahblahtive cases.

tchrist

16:40

Story of my life.

RegDwigнt

Hm, why is that OP misusing "eventually" like a German would, when his profile says Tokyo Japan?

Also since when do our profiles just tell everyone where we are?

tchrist

Since you took the blue pill?

RegDwigнt

I don't mean the mod tools. I mean the profile proper.

Oh, contrary to what the icon suggests, it's not GPS wizardry. It's the good old plain-text field that you just fill out yourself.

Another day, another mystery solved!

Scoo to the by to the doo.

5k people reached with three questions, tho. That's rich.

tchrist

Hah.

RegDwigнt

17:14

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Q: Grammar meaning usage

Hello guys should I use "to" or "for"? Do I need to be registered before I can apply for university or Do I need to be registered before I can apply to university Do I need to be registered before I can apply for my Bachelor of Education or Do I need to be registered before we can apply to my B...

single-word-requests meaning grammar word-choice word-usage

Question title words hard

Feeds

18:11

0

Q: Word for Blade within a Blade

Is there a single word that means "blade within a blade"? It doesn't have to be "blade" specifically, but anything sharp (i.e. "knife within a knife", "dagger within a dagger", "[sharp object] within a [sharp object]"). Not certain if this is a valid geometric phenomenon, but the desire for such...

single-word-requests

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Does all your shit make sense? Far from it, dude. Allow me to shoot at a joke and miss, please. It happens.

RegDwigнt

18:30

@Robusto Er. But that's not what I'm saying. Like, at all.

I'm not saying that it missed. I'm saying that I missed it. And asking what it was aiming for.

I could still find it decidedly unfunny after that, if you insist. But right now I can't even do that. Right now for all I know it was actually hilarious and clever but I'm not allowed in on it.

RegDwigнt

18:45

Goes to show just how much time we've wasted joking and punning and being cryptic and incomprehensible that now when I say "I don't get it" the default is to assume that it means "Oh I got it alright, it's just that it's garbage". When in reality it can actually mean "I don't get it".

Not often, no, but if anything that only makes it a Special Badge of Honor that you can wear with Pride.

Feeds

19:14

0

Q: What is the job title of the person who tries to get people to come inside a restaurant?

Most of us have seen this: a person standing outside a restaurant, sometimes holding a menu, trying to entice passersby (usually tourists) to come in to dine. Is it a "host/hostess"? Is it a "hawker"? What's the correct title for this person's job?

single-word-requests

Mitch

@RegDwigнt holy shit, that response got smacked down pretty hard. I don't know what to think.

tchrist

19:27

Castilleja

Castilleja, commonly known as Indian paintbrush or prairie-fire, is a genus of about 200 species of annual and perennial herbaceous plants native to the west of the Americas from Alaska south to the Andes, northern Asia, and one species as far west as the Kola Peninsula in northwestern Russia. These plants are classified in the broomrape family, Orobanchaceae (following major rearrangements of the order Lamiales starting around 2001; sources which do not follow these reclassifications may place them in the Scrophulariaceae). They are hemiparasitic on the roots of grasses and forbs. The generic...

Monotropa uniflora

Monotropa uniflora, also known as ghost plant (or ghost pipe), Indian pipe or corpse plant, is an herbaceous perennial plant native to temperate regions of Udmurtiya in European Russia, Asia, North America and northern South America, but with large gaps between areas. It was formerly classified in the family Monotropaceae, but is now included within the Ericaceae. It is of ephemeral occurrence, depending on the right conditions (moisture after a dry period) to appear full grown within a couple of days. Unlike most plants, it is white and does not contain chlorophyll. Instead of generating energy...

Please stop pretending that the I-word must be banned. It's incredibly offensive to suggest this.

And as soon as we start bashing people who don't use whatever synonym comes up first in Google, you can kiss your sweet A-word goodbye.

Majority doesn't make right. Or anything.

RegDwigнt

@Mitch what response?

Mitch

Mother tongue? That's racist comment. I speak English. My first language is English. I was born and I grew up in an English speaking country. Different language has got nothing to with this. — akbar hussain 7 hours ago

RegDwigнt

Lol.

tchrist

That's because you aren't allowed to say that Hoosiers speak English, as that's offensive to all red-blood Englanders. You have to say that they speak Indianan.

Mitch

@tchrist How is it offensive to suggest that 'Indian' as a modifier should be avoided under certain circumstances?

RegDwigнt

19:40

"They often uses" is not a thing that a native speaker of English would say. Likewise for "What is the word for people that tries". This has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with the fact that you lack the most basic proficiency in English. — RegDwigнt ♦ 5 secs ago

Mitch

Snap

tchrist

But when you do that, you've subjected yourself to one-lfag deletion for having disparaged the good citizens of Scunthorpe.

@Mitch Indian giver is pretty rude. Name one more out of 500.

Mitch

You're arguing a point that you've had a long internal discussion about. I don't know what you're talking about.

RegDwigнt

> When referring to one observer to many object.

Mitch

@tchrist Indian path?

RegDwigнt

19:42

That's another thing our friend akbar said on StackExchange.

Mitch

wait...I did this already

RegDwigнt

One observer to many object.

tchrist

Mitch

@RegDwigнt His mistakes don't sound native...so...

RegDwigнt

Yeah like come on, even I don't pretend to be a native speaker.

You can't fool people.

Especially if you're a fool.

tchrist

19:43

I look forward to observing your defamation suit against the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette for their racist use of Indian paths.

RegDwigнt

Everyone knows the Venango trail actually leads to India.

tchrist

You mean to Hoosierville, right?

Feeds

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Q: Where do you incarcerate people?

When using the word "incarcerate", how are you supposed to say where you incarcerate people? You can say something like this, using the word "confine". "I confine a bird in a cage." "His parents confined him to his room for a week." And I assume that you can use "to" or "in" to specify where ...

single-word-requests meaning word-usage prepositions

tchrist

R. Dean Taylor - Indiana Wants Me (Lyrics)

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@Feeds You incarcerate people in the cárcel, duh.

Where else would they go anyway?

Did you know that the State of Hoosierana actually officially changed its offensive demonym? You aren't allowed to call them Indianans any longer. I kid you not. It's on the government website. You must only reefer them as Hoosiers.

RegDwigнt

Wouldn't that be incarcelate?

Clearly you incarcerate people in a carcerate.

@tchrist yeah whatever, I never read their website so I don't give a damn.

Mitch

19:49

@tchrist OED doesn't have the disparaging sense of the word?

tchrist

@Mitch Correct.

I've never heard of it. And trust me, we have Indian paths in Wisconsin.

RegDwigнt

Low Indian or High Indian?

tchrist

And Indian corn. And Indian pipe. And Indian summer.

We also have Indian apples, but those are Mayapples, pace Madame Therèse.

RegDwigнt

Maya is offensive. You should call them Brondingnags.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt High, of course.

Mitch

19:51

@tchrist You may not have ever heard of it, but I have.

You seem to be really angry about appearing impolite.

tchrist

I can't wait till we tell kids that they didn't find Indian pipe any longer.

RegDwigнt

Yeah I don't want to appear impolite. I just want to be impolite. The whole nine yards.

Be, or be not. There is no appear.

tchrist

@Mitch I’m angry that hundreds of perfect innocent uses of a word are now suddenly flaggable offences.

Mitch

looking at your links above, those two plant items have alternate names not involving 'Indian'

tchrist

So why the fuck do we care?

RegDwigнt

19:53

@tchrist see it this way. Flaggable they have always been. Nothing's changed.

tchrist

Telling people they can't use the name for something they grew up with is asinine.

RegDwigнt

Anyone can flag absolutely anything. And they do.

Mitch

@tchrist Oh. OK. I get it. That is annoying.

tchrist

No no, not Indian paintbrush, you S-ing P-word, you! It’s Castilleja, and if you don’t cough when you say it we'll rip your throat out.

Mitch

@tchrist On that though there are many instances where it is not asinine. I gave a couple examples in my comments.

RegDwigнt

19:56

@tchrist well they managed to implement the changes fairly fast with the Freedom Fries. Nationwide. It worked like a charm.

It's possible!

Yes we can!

Mitch

@tchrist How dare you call me an S-ing P-word! goes through all pairs of S and P words to find the worst one

tchrist

@RegDwigнt The problem is that freedom kissing now has the mark of Judas upon it.

Of fuck me, I said the J-word.

RegDwigнt

Careful, that's German for Jew.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt French was never disparaging there. also the people who did that are idiots

tchrist

jinx

RegDwigнt

19:57

Not only did you say Jew, you said it in German of all languages. You s-ing p-ing x-ing Nazi.

@Mitch I believe it is very much Tom's point that people who do this Indian thing are idiots as well.

Mitch

if you say s-ing and p-ing enough it really deson't sound as bad

RegDwigнt

Yes, let's all chant the n-word for an hour or so.

That'll semantically satiate the racism out of our galaxy.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt I get his point. But I think if you take that reasoning far enough it applies to my examples of 'welshing on a bet' and 'jew down the price'

tchrist

You also aren't allowed to refer to residents of the state of Hawaii as Hawaiians any longer. It's on that government site.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt But I don't think it has been established that people are trying to remove 'Indian' entirely.

@tchrist Do they give an alternative?

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