English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

1:15 AM

Suppose your name were Rupert and you decided to change it to Rᴜᴘᴇʀᴛ. Should publications be expected to "honor" your queer capitalization scheme?

Or if you insisted that instead of Mr. Rupert, you were now mR. Rᴜᴘᴇʀᴛ?

Is that ok?

I imagine someone will say that it is perfectly fine. But how to do you put that on your AmEx card?

I'm pretty sure this isn't going to happen.

And I know, absolutely positively, that you cannot transmit that as the name of the cardholder for a banking transaction.

Well tough, if it was ok to make people print 𝑒𝑒 𝒸𝓊𝓂𝓂𝒾𝓃𝑔𝓈 then it should be allowed for everyone.

And then you learn that Mr Rupert has told you that you must write his name this way now:

When do we say "thanks but no thanks"?

Or words of stronger sentiment even?

"No, I'm sorry, my name is in cursive."

That's nice, dearie.

Proper nouns are capitalized in English. You don't get to change that just for your special little self.

And you don't get to tell the printer how she prints your name.

              T h a t ’ s
             r
            e
           p
          u
        MR
          u
           p
            e
             r
   M y  b u t t, s i r.

> Henceforth my name shall only be written diagonally!

Good luck with that and let me know how it turns out for you.

tchrist

1:53 AM

Oh good, it's all a misunderstanding.

gov.sz/index.php

Cerberus

2:21 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yay! Castles are nice.

There are quite a few in Holland.

@tchrist Of course I agree.

Your language is your own, and nobody can make you change your linguistic habits unless he have a very good reason.

It's Peking and Rome, no matter what some silly people would have you write.

tchrist

@Cerberus This is about the ee swaziland thing.

And, it appears, everyone has misunderstood it.

Their own government spells it Eswatini in English, eSwatini in their own language.

Cerberus

@Færd You'll be run over!

tchrist

@Cerberus aRom?

This isn't about gypsies, is it? :)

"e-" is some sort of prefix locative particle or clitic in their language.

Cerberus

@tchrist It doesn't matter a great deal how they spell it. Especially not in English, for they will not fully understand English conventions.

@tchrist That's fun but not super relevant.

I'm sleeping!

tchrist

I guess they got tired of being confused with Switzerland, like how Australia is always getting confused for that other oysterland.

The thing is that when people learned what they'd decided to name their country in their language, these people thought that meant we had to write it their way in English. And we do not.

Jacqueline du Pré

Jacqueline Mary du Pré, OBE (26 January 1945 – 19 October 1987) was a British cellist. At a young age, she achieved enduring mainstream popularity - unusual for a classical artist. Despite her short career, she is regarded as one of the greatest cellists of all time. Her career was cut short by multiple sclerosis, which forced her to stop performing at the age of 28. She battled the illness for many years until her death at the age of 42. Posthumously, she was the subject of a film titled Hilary and Jackie that was factually controversial and criticised for sensationalising her private life. ...

Yes, her name was du Pré, but when you start sentences with her name, it is Du Pré blah blah.

> Du Pré was born in Oxford, England, the second child of Iris Greep and Derek du Pré. Derek was born in Jersey, where his family had lived for generations.

I blame fucking marking gimmicks for people even thinking it could ever be any other way.

> Oh me oh my the Apple will smite us if we spell it right in English!

I don't think so.

When you get a credit card or a bank account, you don't get to tell them how to capitalize your name. You just don't.

@Cerberus Please please go to sleep. It's my time so it has to have been yours.

user2236

2:51 AM

World's most prestigious maths medal is stolen minutes after professor wins it

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6:02 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching product name in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body, +3 more: www.supplentforhealthylifestyle.org/rapid-tone-ireland/ by jonenal on english.SE

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Q: Word that can both mean "selection" and "adjustment"?

There is a kind of similarity between "selection" and "adjustment": When we have 5 options, and we "select" one option, we are "narrowing down out of 5 options, which one we will get in the end" But when we have an existing object, say a house, and we "adjust" the house to be different, we are a...

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6:36 AM

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Q: Word for manufacturers intentionally making their cheaper products inferior even though they use the same hardware?

As an example, high end video cards sometimes use the exact same chip as their lower priced cousins. The manufacturer intentionally reduces the speed of the cheaper models to make them less appealing, although sometimes one can unlock the higher end functionality through external mods. What's t...

single-word-requests

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8:50 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching product name in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body, +3 more: www.supplentforhealthylifestyle.org/rapid-tone-ireland/ by katpoeton on english.SE

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10:06 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body: Where to get College Admission Entrance Essay Writing Services? by Adam Paul on english.SE

Færd

10:20 AM

One of the possible ways that the current situation with Iran would unfold:

Iran Is On The Brink

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Matt E. Эллен

10:45 AM

@tchrist I suppose it's like Greece vs Ελλάδα

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Q: To make a pilgrimage

Is there a single word for the act of making a pilgrimage? "The text excludes the following people from the requirement to make a pilgrimage..." Thanks!

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Matt E. Эллен

pilgrimage is now semantically satiated in my brain.

Robusto

11:46 AM

@MattE.Эллен "Thalassa or thalatta, the former or the latter?"

@Cerberus Isn't EL&U itself a kind of English convention? We even have name tags!

user1732

12:40 PM

@Færd no need to apologise because you were not mistaken pal :-)

RegDwigнt

1:09 PM

@user2236 World's most prestigious maths medal is awarded to a plum who doesn't even know how to put a medal around his neck and instead just puts it wherever

@Færd yeah quite informative but I do think the keyword is one of many possible ways. If history is any lesson, the outcome of a record fall of a currency cannot be predicted, but only evaluated like thirty years after the fact.

I've been through how many, three record currency falls in my life? Four maybe? I don't even know. Each one panned out completely differently from every other one. And each spawned a million theories about possible outcomes, but each time only one of the million outcomes actually happened, so only one theory was right all along but it took like two decades to figure out which one.

Anonymous

@Robusto Hello, my name is 🐌🚢

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