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Cerberus

00:27

@Færd You would believe it to be a spirit?

@Færd Waaah that's so conflicting.

Should I do the opposite of your literal expression or of the spirit behind it?

Færd

00:44

@Cerberus Definitely oppose the spirit!

@Cerberus Sometimes you just need to forget about words and subside into the bliss of the moment.

Cerberus

The rainbow or yours?

I'll pick yours and continue to listen to Barobax.

Færd

Mine!

Cerberus

Have you had a fun night?

Færd

Then you just listened to me.

Cerberus

That never.

I've been cleaning.

Færd

00:45

@Cerberus Not bad.

Cerberus

Which I hate and hence rarely do.

Good.

Færd

What about your assistant cleaner?

The robot.

Cerberus

He helped!

He did the floor.

Færd

Glad to hear you weren't alone.

Cerberus

I did the stove top and the loo and a few other things.

Færd

00:47

Enjoy dirtying them again.

Cerberus

Yeah, that's what I hate about it most.

It's not an accomplishment, because it is soon destroyed again.

Færd

Such is life.

Cerberus

I am not Sisyphus.

@Færd One would have hoped the underworld to be different.

Færd

The most torturous parts are all about cyclic meaninglessness, according to the accounts available.

Cerberus

I suppose so.

Also in Zoroastrian mythology?

Færd

00:51

Oh, I know little about their idea of afterlife.

I studied their theology a long time ago.

Cerberus

Nice.

I think it is they who invented Heaven and Hell.

Færd

Hmm.

Cerberus

The Jews took it from them, I believe.

Færd

I think the urge to assume that good and bad are going to be answered accordingly is stronger than to be confined to the teachings of one specific religion.

Cerberus

And of course Christian mythology is heavily based on Jewish mythology.

@Færd But different religions have different solutions for that, or only very limited ones.

Hindus believe you'll reincarnate into better flesh if you live well.

Færd

00:55

Yeah. Or worse flesh.

Cerberus

Greeks and Romans believed in a drab afterlife for almost everyone, except heroes and those the gods specifically picked. And a special place of torture. But it wasn't as binary as Zoroaster and friends.

Færd

@Cerberus That doesn't really address the urge I mentioned. They were clearly out of order.

Or it sounds like the religion of the elite.

Cerberus

No, it was the general belief.

Færd

OK.

Cerberus

And I don't believe the Chinese believed in a clear Heaven and Hell either?

Færd

00:57

In Islam there's a range of reward and punishment you get, and some people are believed to be stuck somewhere in the middle I guess.

So it's not that binary.

So there's a tiered afterlife world.

15 tiers, or so.

Cerberus

Right, but isn't that like Christian mythology?

Where you also have circles of heaven and hell, and purgatory.

Færd

Perhaps.

Cerberus

It would make sense, since Islamic mythology is generally based on Jewish and Christian mythology combined with Arabic folk religion?

> Chinese religions have a variety of sources, local forms, founder backgrounds, and ritual and philosophical traditions. Despite this diversity, there is a common core that can be summarised as four theological, cosmological, and moral concepts:[4]
Tian (天), Heaven, the transcendent source of moral meaning; qi (氣), the breath or energy that animates the universe; jingzu (敬祖), the veneration of ancestors; and bao ying (報應), moral reciprocity; together with two traditional concepts of fate and meaning:[5] ming yun (命運), the personal destiny or burgeoning; and yuan fen (緣分), "fateful coincide…

I see Heaven, but no Hell.

Færd

See, this is what cleaning is good for.

Makes you think about stuff.

It's interesting if they believe only in a heaven.

Cerberus

@Færd About Hell?

Færd

01:05

Well, cleaning makes you wish there was Heaven.

Unperturbed bliss.

And then you might consider the exact opposite of that, and get the idea of Hell.

Cerberus

I'd rather not be thinking about these things and not cleaning.

Færd

That's the choice we don't have yet.

Cerberus

Well...

Færd

Put on some Barobax and dance your way round the floor with the mop to keep you from thinking too much.

(What a badly-worded, almost ungrammatical sentence!)

See you.

Cerberus

01:22

@Færd Hmm it looks grammatical enough.

Mitch

02:07

@MetaEd I think the fruit would be happy that it's not known as the worst thing.

@Cerberus Every nagging aunt reinvents that every time a nephew visits

@Cerberus so organized. the religion of German Engineering

@Færd It's also good for when you're on a deadline and avoiding doing the thing you're supposed to

Cerberus

@Mitch Even so, it doesn't really exist as such in most religions...

@Mitch I think that's Wikipaedia's interpretation of some important generalised ideas and concepts: Chinese religion has always been a bit of a patchwork in practice.

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04:26

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Færd

09:00

@Mitch Based on a true story? :)

@Cerberus The infinitive (to keep) should come after its semantic subject (Barobax), I think.

Feeds

0

Q: How can I express the time between late 80s and beginning of 90s (somewhere around 1888-1992)?

I am trying to translate the title of my thesis that spells the following: "Establishment of Political Parties in Georgia (at the conjunction of 80s and 90s)" I am no sure about the part in bold. There, I want to express the time period spanning the last 2 years of 80s 1888, 1889 anდ first two...

Feeds

09:42

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Q: Is there a word for "sympathy, but not support"?

Some time ago, I watched a video appeal, and while I definitely felt sympathy for the speaker, I cannot say that when pressed to make a decision about his cause I would support it. I understand why the position that is opposite to the speaker's exists, and it makes more sense to me logically. Is...

single-word-requests

MetaEd

15:26

Morning, campers.

Mitch

16:39

@MetaEd Camp has not started yet

MetaEd

@Mitch I guess I'd better pull up stakes then.

Færd

@Mitch Because it's over.

Evening.

I'm wondering how erratically participial adjectives (or adjectival participles?) act.

Some have a passive meaning (broken glass), some active (advanced student).

Most are pre-positive, but some are post-positive (the people quesioned).

And some are non-attributive. (~~an arrived~~ train---)

But if you make a compound adjective out of them, they could be used attributively. (a recently-arrived train)

Get your rules straight, you stupid participles.

I guess most of those with an active meaning are from intransitive verbs.

Mitch

17:08

@MetaEd For all in tents and purposes.

@Færd Many times over.

MetaEd

@Mitch arrrrrrr.

Færd

Forgot to say I wasn't talking about present participles.

@MetaEd Aern't they called pegs?

MetaEd

@Færd I don't know, let's take a pole.

Færd

bars the pole

There's tent stakes too, apparently.

Mitch

@Færd bars the door

That was Katy closing the barn door

She couldn't hit the broad side of it

from that dist

Feeds

18:42

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Q: What term describes pretending outrage to escape a conversation?

I'm looking for a term that describes when a person is pretending to be offended in order to end a confrontation. The key here is that the offense is perceived only because the person wishes to use it as leverage to leave the discussion. Below is a poor example, but it's the best generic one I c...

single-word-requests phrase-requests idiom-requests

RegDwigнt

19:03

Okay lovely people, challenge time!

Agony (Zero Punctuation)

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1:55-2:10.

Transcribe that.

Educ

19:29

> There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech.

> The key is not to prioritize what's on your schedule, but to schedule your priorities.

MetaEd

@RegDwigнt I'm still resting on my laurels.

Educ