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Cerberus

16:00

First time in ages we've had an interesting question.

> Don't implement this feature if it will significantly increase the complexity of the user interface.

How do you feel about this one?

Kitḫ

@MetaEd I need to read this book now.

@Cerberus Sounds perfectly normal to me.

Also, isn't it a dupe?

Cerberus

@Kitḫ Yeah it sounds fine to me too.

Kitḫ

It was the second of the first set of examples that was all wrong.

Cerberus

So there is something about "will" in conditions.

I wonder why Kris is adamant that it is wrong.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus except we've had that question before. Countless times.

Kitḫ

16:02

> We decided to go for a walk if it didn't rain in the evening. ~~(...if it wouldn't rain in the evening)~~

user19161

@Cerberus Bad conditions increase the will to survive.

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 Yeah, I couldn't find it though.

Anyway, it ought to be "We decided to go for a walk if it doesn't rain this evening."

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 But asked in a way that was actually interesting and that led to interesting answers?

@Kitḫ Yeah, I don't know about that one. It sounds off either way.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus So?

MetaEd

@Kitḫ Yes. Everybody does.

Cerberus

16:04

@Kitḫ What if it was about some evening in the past?

user19161

I still don't really get may might will would shall should can could.

Kitḫ

@Cerberus Why conditional then?

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 So then it deserves to stay open.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I can ask for a recipe for a really tasty egg-salad sandwich in a way that is actually interesting and leads to interesting answers.

4

Q: "If" and "would be" when talking about future events

I am watching a basketball game right now, and the team that I am rooting for is losing. I want to say that if they win, that would be something. Which one is the correct way to state it? If Miami pulls this off, it would be something. If Miami pulled this off, it would be something. If M...

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 Oh, please do!

Matt Эллен

16:05

but on cookery.se

or however that's spelt

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Crookery.SE.

Kitḫ

"Cookery." That's so charmingly British.

Cerberus

@Kitḫ I'm imagining someone thinking last Wednesday, "hmm, if it won't be raining tonight, we should go for a walk". Except that I don't know how to say it.

user19161

Why is spelt spelled spelt or spelled

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Because.

Next question.

Kitḫ

16:06

@Cerberus If it is not raining tonight, we should go for a walk.

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 Crockery.SE

MetaEd

@WillHunting I stuck my oar in.

Robusto

"It's a crock!"

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto cockery.SE.

Robusto

mockery.SE

Cerberus

16:07

@RegDwightѬſ道 Not the same question.

@Kitḫ Okay, and now in the past tense?

Matt Эллен

if it wasn't raining tonight we would have gone for a walk

Kitḫ

^That.

user19161

@MattЭллен We? Who? You and Cerb?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus You know, unlike you I actually search for the original.-

Cerberus

And now make it about last Wednesday. "If it hadn't been raining, we would have gone..."?

Matt Эллен

16:09

@WillHunting well, we're too far apart

RegDwight Ѭſ道

It's easy to just sit here and go "no, no, no".

Go search yourself if you're so awesome.

MetaEd

"no, no, no". What was the question?

user19161

@MattЭллен Face to face but a thousand miles apart

Matt Эллен

at least to go for a walk tonight

Cerberus

I guess that may be it: the situation is hypothetical because it is in the past, and that is why the tenses in the OP's example are all wrong.

I was trying to come up with something in the simple past but couldn't, probably because I shouldn't.

Matt Эллен

16:10

if it hadn't rained on Wednesday, we would have gone for a walk

Cerberus

OK then I think we have reached consensus?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

1

Q: Is "even if..." followed by present or future tense?

Is it correct to say: even if only james bond will benefit from ... or even if only james bond benefits from ...

tense conditional

Kitḫ

I have no idea.

Matt Эллен

I don't know either :F

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 I know. But search never works for me when I try, and I hate searching.

MetaEd

16:11

No. As advocatus diaboli I must insist that there is no consensus.

No consensus. No, no, no.

What was the question?

Cerberus

Why not just leave it open? Who cares?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I care.

Because we have had this exact discussion before.

Cerberus

@MetaEd Thank you for your valuable input. We will consider it.

user19161

@matt Guess which song that line came from?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

And if we leave it open, we will have this exact discussion again.

user19161

16:12

@RegDwightѬſ道 But perhaps not in the exact manner.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 About when exactly will is used in conditions?

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting that boyzone one?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I know that you don't care because you just forget everything, but I am bored by having to go over the same stuff over and over and over again.

user19161

@MattЭллен Nope.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting Then I don't know.

user19161

16:13

►

Matt Эллен

I see

MetaEd

@Cerberus Anytime. Consider it my little gift.

Matt Эллен

hmm, I think it becomes important when time travel is possible. "If he used the elevator on Tuesday, then we will have been able to get to the treasure yesterday. Check your back pack!"

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Well, who forces you? In any case, do as you see fit; I have stated my opinion and will object no more.

user19161

@MattЭллен Or when 4D printing becomes possible.

Cerberus

16:15

Actually Fumble's answer is the only one that tackles the question in a satisfying manner, though I'm not sure he is right.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus What do you mean, who forces me? I got elected to go around closing dupes, and I am not even getting paid for that.

Kitḫ

0

Q: Need suggestion

I have started to prepart for Gmat recently,But I am having a tough time with verbal section,My standard of English is very poor.I just need some tips so that i can excel in better way,As per my grading My standard currently is that of 6th grade student.

grammaticality

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ Forward to JA.

user19161

@Kitḫ He needs to ask JA.

Matt Эллен

:D

user19161

16:17

Jinx.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Jinx

Meta-jinx.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 So you are not forced to do anything but by your inner drive, right?

Hahaha brilliant.

Kitḫ

Dare you to put that it the comments, and ping JA when you do it!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus look, you won't distract me from the fact that this question is a dupe.

user19161

JA != Ja. QED.

Robusto

16:17

@Kitḫ If he is preparting for the GMAT, he's going about it wrong.

Cerberus

@Kitḫ I will gladly do it if noöne else will. I have nothing to lose.

Matt Эллен

and everything to gain!

Kitḫ

Mad love!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

So, what is "prepart"?

Matt Эллен

the part before the part

RegDwight Ѭſ道

16:19

Prep art.

Kitḫ

And that's 6th grade level? I am definitely going to have to homeschool my children.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Andy Warhol.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 I disagree. The question asks about a rule when to use will and when the present tense; in addition, it provides a specific example sentence that one could say yes or no to. None of the others seem to do either.

MetaEd

What's JA.

If y'all are going to fall over yourselves to avoid putting a useful link in the comment, let me know what it is and I'll post it.

Matt Эллен

@MetaEd Jeff Attwood

Kitḫ

16:19

@MetaEd Who. Jeff Atw—.

Cerberus

Kitḫ

Jinx!

MetaEd

Oh.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus because none of the others is the question I have in mind, and I am still looking for that other one.

And you are not helping.

MetaEd

<- humor impaired

Cerberus

16:20

Well, good luck.

Kitḫ

@MetaEd It's not funny.

user19161

@Cerberus The third time at least.

Cerberus

Uhuh.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Yeah I'll need it. Searching for "will" and "if" is a nuisance.

Kitḫ

3

Q: Conditionals in the future

My colleague and I have a hot discussion about which is correct. My version is: If you don't fix the bug I will send you a patch. and his one is: I would send you a patch if you don't fix the problem. Discussion context is: there is a bug in a project. I will send a patch in case tha...

modal-verbs future-tense conditional

Is that it?

Cerberus

16:21

@RegDwightѬſ道 So how is the OP supposed to find this question if he is looking for an answer to his question? How is this site supposed to help people?

user19161

Nuisance != nonsense.

Robusto

I just added my $.02 to FF's answer and upvoted him. So there.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus I have no idea what you are talking about.

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ he gets hot with his colleagues

RegDwight Ѭſ道

The OP's question is open and collecting answers.

Robusto

16:21

@Cerberus Hmm, he looks like he scored very well on the GMAT. You can see it in his eyes.

user19161

@Robusto It's better to write it as $0.02.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Once I find the original, it will get closed as dupe to prevent further duplication of effort.

Everyone wins.

Robusto

@WillHunting Why waste the pixels? You knew what I meant.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 That may take over 9000 years.

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 And this is how a dupe can prevent duplication.

Cerberus

16:22

@RegDwightѬſ道 If you can't even find that question, how is the OP supposed to find an answer to his question on this site?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ Nah, saw that. Though actually I'm looking for Barrie's comment he's referring to in his answer.

@Cerberus who says he is?

You are imagining things.

Cerberus

Or he wouldn't have asked his question, d'oh!

MetaEd

@Robusto Especially the black pixels. We go through a lot of those.

Cerberus

@Robusto Absolutely! Maybe...99%?

Robusto

Those take the most energy, unless you have an OLED monitor.

Cerberus

16:23

Or what was it?

Robusto

@Cerberus 99th percentile. Let's get this straight. Wouldn't want to embarrass the boss.

Cerberus

Ahh.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

FFS, why is this tagged future-tense:

0

Q: The evergreen question of poverty

Poverty has been the root cause of most modern day problems - it leads to desperation, war, disease, exploitation, often a complete wipe out of clans / tribes / communities, to name a few. Out of interest, what can change this in the context of the developing world?

future-tense

Cerberus

So there are only 3 million Americans better than he?

MetaEd

If I had a DLP monitor it would not matter.

Cerberus

16:25

@RegDwightѬſ道 Haha, now that question you have my blessing to close. Except that it's closed already.

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 Because it projects a hypothetical situation into the future?

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightѬſ道 because the future is tense

Cerberus

DLP?

MetaEd

"Page Not Found"

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 deleted

Cerberus

16:26

Awwwwwwww.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@WillHunting I know, I just did.

Cerberus

@MetaEd Get moar reps!

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 I clicked on delete and it got deleted the same moment. HB!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@MetaEd the entire content of the question is now right here in chat.

MetaEd

DLP is the projection system used in many movie theaters for digital movies.

Cerberus

16:27

Ahh.

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 I forgot about that one.

> I'd be glad, if proper usage of English, or any other, language could help us eliminate poverty. Since this is not the case, I'm afraid you're asking the wrong community. – Philoto Nov 8 '11 at 11:09

Cerberus

I might like to have me one of those DLPs.

MetaEd

@RegDwightѬſ道 Perhaps OP typed in "future" as keyword and had it autocompleted to "future-tense"

Robusto

0

A: Is "even if..." followed by present or future tense?

Hypothetical clauses that are headed by if (including even if) may only use the modal auxiliary verb will (or won't) in its Deontic sense of 'intend, be willing', and not in its Epistemic sense of predicted necessity. Frank won't hand in his homework. (epistemic, a prediction) If Frank won't ha...

This sounds like rules for a high-school dance sponsored by a fundamentalist religion of some sort.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Yes it does.

user19161

16:28

Is there a badge for closing X questions?

Robusto

Or something from MSDN.

user19161

I think JA should introduce such a badge since he wants more closed.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@MetaEd Or he started typing "futon", and had that autocompleted to "future-tense".

5

Q: Future tense usage: "When you see it ..."

I wonder why the phrase is "When you see it you will shit brix," and not "When you will see it you will shit brix." Is the version with two will incorrect? What grammar rule says that you should not use will see in the above phrase?

future-tense

This one has when rather than if.

Vitaly

@Reg are we supposed to fight Serenity?

Cerberus

> You cannot just pick it apart in isolation and call ‘will’ a modal and ‘see’ the bare/citation form and stop there,satisfied that that’s all there is to it—any moreso than you can dissect a frog and call the resulting goo a frog.

user19161

16:30

There is also if and when.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

The funniest part is, there's a chat cast going on in the Teachers' Lounge right now, and so far I have missed it all because of this.

Cerberus

And you're looking at me?

Look at the OP!

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting nah, he wants fewer ESL people to come here asking questions he doesn't like.

Cerberus

Or your own brain!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Vitaly We kind of were, but now that Lightbringers are catching up I suggest we switch back to them.

user19161

16:32

@MattЭллен But there's no badge for not coming here!

Vitaly

@RegDwightѬſ道 OK.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 Call me when they bring in the food.

MetaEd

@RegDwightѬſ道 future-perfect would have been better.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting true, well not an SE badge. You might make your own and say "I kicked my SE habit". you could have a ceremony, and Joel Spolsky could give you some cake

Robusto

We need a third term for an approach to language rules: there is descriptivism, which simply observes and notes patterns in living language; prescriptivism, which attempts to apply set and apply sometimes arbitrary rules to the language itself; and proscriptivism, which seeks to ban all language not expressly approved of by the pedantry. Excuse me, I meant "which seeks to ban all language of which the pedantry disapproves." Sorry, Proscriptivist Council.

user19161

16:33

@MetaEd There is a nice EL site called that. Let me find it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto cool story, bro.

@WillHunting ask antimoon? It's dead as disco.

Matt Эллен

@MetaEd if you want something to look like a tag: [tag:tag-words]

user19161

@MetaEd future-perfect.co.uk

user19161

Worth visiting!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

worth-visiting

MetaEd

16:35

How many forms of markdown are there here? There's Q&A markdown, comment markdown ... is chat markdown eqv comment markdown or is it a third markdown language?

Matt Эллен

hmmm, I don't know. Chat expands things inline, like youtube and wikipedia, so it could be a third way

RegDwight Ѭſ道

OVER 9000

user19161

What's the difference between markup and markdown?

MetaEd

2 days ago, by Will Hunting

I am aroused by over 9000 things.

I get it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@WillHunting The ending.

user19161

16:37

@MetaEd I learnt it from him who in turn learned it from a cartoon.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting mark up is a way of doing something, e.g. HTML is a way of marking up hypertext. markdown is a way of writing text that can be translated into HTML

MetaEd

@WillHunting Markdown is the name of a particular markup language.

Matt Эллен

yeah, or what MetaEd said

user19161

Crabs mark sideways.

Cerberus

@Robusto Usually self-proclaimed descriptivists are crypto-prescriptivists (and even crypto-proscriptivists) who forbid us to use words like "subjunctive" and do not even understand the significance of style and that it is not separate from grammar.

They make me furious.

Kitḫ

16:38

english.stackexchange.com/questions/44614/…

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus you can't use subjunctive

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Wow Kit's still on it.

Kitḫ

What? We gave up?

Robusto

@Cerberus “Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog: you understand it better, but the frog dies in the process.” — Mark Twain

MetaEd

"Just think how messy this discussion will been when time travel was become invented."

Kitḫ

16:40

5

Q: How can you make "to be" explicit and simple in this future conditional sentence?

I can say "Jerry's been a bad pussycat this morning" or "Hey, Jerry, you be a good pussycat now" or "Jerry's been active all morning so he's being a good pussycat now". All these involve the use of the verb be. Now if I said "if Jerry bes a bad pussycat, put him in the laundry," I'll sound ungra...

grammar verbs subjunctive-mood irregular

Now I've forgotten the original dupe.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

"Original dupe". Sounds like a movie by Gus Van Sant.

Vitaly

wait, since when linking to comments is available to everyone?

Kitḫ

Thanks.

MetaEd

Right. "Original dupe" is like "first repeat".

Cerberus

@MattЭллен AAAAAHHHHHHH GRABS SUBJUNCTIVE AND USES IT TO SMACK YOU

user19161

16:41

@RegDwightѬſ道 He directed me.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Vitaly since she has that browser extension.

Robusto

How about a mutually inclusive oxymoron?

MetaEd

(In music, the first repeat is the first time through the repeated section … before you repeat.)

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto That's you, but what am I?

Kitḫ

mutually oxymoronic inclusion

Vitaly

16:42

@RegDwightѬſ道 nope, those grey dates are actually links now

user19161

Oxy is a pimple cream. Moron is a user on SE.

Robusto

@Cerberus Had you really grabbed the subjunctive and smacked him, he would have been destroyed.

2

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Vitaly Ah that. That's a couple months old.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus takes SUBJUNCTIVE off you I said you couldn't use that. Now look, you've gone and given me a black eye.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@MetaEd poor translation from Italian. Prima volta.

Kitḫ

16:43

@Cerberus So that explains why he yelled at me for posting a link to a question about the subjunctive.

Cerberus

@Robusto No, I have merely subjected him to my whims. Now he is my subject.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Somehow I don't feel like catching up on the TL chat cast anymore.

user19161

@Cerberus Or is he your object?

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Nah I smacked you on the scalp.

Robusto

I had a teacher in grade school who solemnly proclaimed that you couldn't have "a whole half" of anything. I argued with her, and she punished me, making me stay in detention for half an hour. "A whole half-hour?" I replied.

MetaEd

16:44

@RegDwightѬſ道 I don't know that it's a translation of Italian. It's just strangeness in music terms. We will also say we'll repeat three times, meaning a total of three times through the passage.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 Because there is no food.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@MetaEd Who is that "we"?

Cerberus

@Kitḫ Who, Barrie? Yes, he is like that. Colin does it too.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus I'm still confiscating this! waves SUBJUNCTIVE accusingly at Cerb

Kitḫ

giggles

Cerberus

16:45

@Robusto You brat!

user19161

@Robusto Half whole is also permissible.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен But it's MINE! I will subjoin your every subjuncture if you will (sic) not submit!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto cool story, bro.

Robusto

We need an objunctive mood to go with the subjunctive. For when you're not feeling tentative enough, but still want to rattle the proscriptivists' cage.

user19161

Half whole = whole half = half != whole.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

16:47

Semantic satiation.

Now all I see is Milf whore = whore milf.

Cerberus

@Robusto Hmm I suppose they won't take offence at the indicative any more these days?

user19161

In case you missed my favourite one, vanilla coke = original coke != coke with vanilla = vanilla coke.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 I think you're typing in the wrong tab.

MetaEd

@RegDwightѬſ道 We meaning me and people I've made music with all my life. So if it's a regionalism look at usage in the American Midwest.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus Unlike you, I never.

Cerberus

16:48

The other, flesh-coloured tab is what you're looking for.

Robusto

@Cerberus There isn't anything they won't take offense at.

aedia λ

Whullo?

Cerberus

True.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@aediaλ Yes, Whullo 13. With Tom Hanks.

Kitḫ

@aediaλ smooch

Robusto

16:49

@RegDwightѬſ道 You misspelled OPollo.

Cerberus

Horsey! jumps on horsey

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus wait, so you'll be at the end of my every subjuncture? I don't know what one is, but I'm keeping this and planning to have subjunctures more often.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus no flirting in this chat.

See who's confusing tabs?

MetaEd

@Robusto Anybody for petticoatjunctive?

Gigili

'Ello @all. Just wanted to thank you all again for your help.

MetaEd

16:50

Petticoat Junction

Petticoat Junction is an American situation comedy produced by Filmways which originally aired on CBS from 1963 to 1970. The series is one of three interrelated shows about rural characters created by Paul Henning; the others are The Beverly Hillbillies and Green Acres. The setting for the series was the Shady Rest Hotel just outside of the farming town of Hooterville (later the location of Green Acres). The Shady Rest Hotel is situated on the train line of the C. & F.W. Railroad, halfway between the towns of Pixley and Hooterville, which are each away. The characters seem to go to Hoote...

Robusto

Or maybe we should call it the "superjunctive" mood. For when you're feeling tentative but dominantly so.

Cerberus

Qui peccet non opprobret.

2 mins ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

Now all I see is Milf whore = whore milf.

user19161

@Gigili No problem, even though I am not @all.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto I was going to propose "supjunctive" but got distracted by milfs and dogs humping horses.

Cuz obviously the antonym for <sub> is <sup>

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 The horse is too big for the dog.

aedia λ

16:51

I'd go for some warm pollosupjunctive right about now...

Matt Эллен

hi @aedia :)

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 "Supjunctive" sounds like an informal greeting.

user19161

@aediaλ Boo!

Gigili

@WillHunting You're a member of the set? $\all x: x \in \text{ELU chat}$.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto You are getting predictable. Don't.

Robusto

16:52

@RegDwightѬſ道 I knew you were going to fall back on that old chestnut.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

There's no falling back, just firmly sitting.

user19161

@Gigili I noticed you sound like Ubuntu. You have three i's, Ubuntu has three u's.

Robusto

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@WillHunting Yeah. That is totally the same.

@Robusto They translated that?

Robusto

Plus c'est la même chose, bitches!

Gigili

16:54

@WillHunting what a coincidence!

Cerberus

@WillHunting I noticed you sound like Matt. He has no i, and you have no a.

user19161

Is totally awesome a common remark in the US?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto Am Arsch die Brüh'!

Cerberus

@Robusto What does "plus" mean here?

user19161

@Cerberus True, and the number of syllables match too, in each case.

Robusto

16:55

aedia λ

@WillHunting If you mean totally wicked awesome then yes :)

Kitḫ

@Cerberus From the ne...plus construction?

Cerberus

@WillHunting Yes, those as well!

Kitḫ

@aediaλ wicked! Northeasterner!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto Are you hungry or what?

user19161

16:55

@aediaλ I thought wicked is common in the UK.

Gigili

@Cerberus I noticed you and RegDwight are one person, as both have an 'e' in the second place.

Robusto

@Cerberus The opposite of menus.

Cerberus

@Kitḫ You think so? It sounds weird to me before "c'est".

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Gigili I don't have a second place in the first place.

Cerberus

@Gigili He is my sock puppet.

Gigili

16:56

But your first place is second.

Cerberus

I like little owl puppets that hoot against me.

Robusto

@Cerberus en.wiktionary.org/wiki/…

user19161

Sock != puppet != sockpuppet != sock.

Cerberus

Ah, so "the more... the more...?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Suckpoppet?

Robusto

16:57

You mean NOBODY here has ever heard the expression plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose?

Cerberus

Heraclitus again, huh.

Matt Эллен

I have

but I figured everyone else had too

Cerberus

@Robusto No, it sounds familiar.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto not sure about NOBODY, but NÖONE surely has.

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 Oh, for Pete's sake ...

Cerberus

16:58

But if you cut off half, it doesn't look so familiar any more.

aedia λ

the more it changes, the more people choose memes, right?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus that is true of everything.

Gigili

When someone says "I'm a German teacher", does it mean that person is a teacher and is German as well, or does it mean the person teaches German?

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Yes, Jasper.

user19161

@Robusto I don't drink sake.

Robusto

16:58

@Cerberus Blame Google. I linked to a whole picture.

Kitḫ

@Gigili I would think it meant they taught German.

Matt Эллен

@Gigili I agree with @Kit

Gigili

Right, guessed so.

Cerberus

You could also say a teacher of German to avoid ambiguity.

Robusto

@Gigili It means that whatever you do, you're gonna be in trouble.

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