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Kit Z. Fox

18:00

Rep-whore DEPRECATED

user208178

hello kit. I hope you are well

Rejlan Givens

hey Kit

Kit Z. Fox

@Arrowfar Yes, thank you.

@RejlanGivens Hi. Do you want to talk now?

Rejlan Givens

Kit I'm in a real hurry just wanted to say hello

and check when you're available next time

Kit Z. Fox

Sure OK. Hi.

I'm not usually around on weekends, but I'll be in on Monday.

Rejlan Givens

18:03

Can you tell me Kit

okay

are you French?

i checked your info the other day

Kit Z. Fox

Non, je suis americane. Pourquoi?

Rejlan Givens

because the guy that I wanted to complain about was French

I won't complain about him

just wanted to check with you about the rules for posting that is all

Kit Z. Fox

He's not French.

Rejlan Givens

what is considered as a proper use of forum

so I know in the future what to expect

Kit Z. Fox

I wanted to explain that he is using boilerplate text. He is one of the regular reviewers on the site. He's not targeting you specifically.

Rejlan Givens

18:05

okay Kit that also

It sounded like a human playing a bot

Kit Z. Fox

Do you know what 'boilerplate' means?

Sorry, I used it without thinking.

Rejlan Givens

and don't see it helped anyone in my case

of course Kit

is my english that bad?

nooooooo

Kit Z. Fox

No, I'm just never sure when I'm using lingo and when I'm using normal human vocabulary.

Mazura

@KitZ.Fox screw that. I demand satisfaction!

Rejlan Givens

that was fine use of vocabulary as far as i'm concerned

anyway, i'm not going to bother you too much with questions about the rules, just a few clarifications

and before i go can I ask you for a little help very quickly

with vocabulary disambiguation

Kit Z. Fox

18:08

So we have specific standards for questions. Questions should not be discussion-style. Also, you need to write into your question the things you have already tried. That seems to be the guidance he was giving you, but I don't have the information in front of me anymore. Do you want me to create a private room to discuss it?

Would you be more comfortable with that?

Rejlan Givens

can't right now Kit really have to go

but i'm grateful

that you're helpful with this

Kit Z. Fox

I can create the room now and you can leave me messages there when it is convenient for you.

Rejlan Givens

hope I catch you up some other time

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox I've always found that term distasteful, but now that Ive read it so much in that question, I'm extraordinarily aware of it, like someone mentioning your tongue, and you can't get the idea out of your head because your tongue is right there in your mouth.

Kit Z. Fox

@Mitch You mean "deprecated"?

Mitch

18:14

and this may be naive, but are there any good alternatives? rep-monger?

Kit Z. Fox

Specifically not any of that.

user208178

what about "attention whore"? It can be used in a friendly way I guess.

Kit Z. Fox

Read the post. Basically, it suggests that we attack users with that kind of terminology.

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox instead of 'distasteful'? I meant distastetful

@Arrowfar 'whore' is the problematic part. it's too pejorative

user208178

by "attack" you mean "suspend"?

user208178

18:15

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox oh, now I understand the misunderstanding. I find the term 'rep-whore' distasteful.

'deprecated' is fine, I like it as opposed to 'eschewed'

user208178

@Mitch yeah I thought so too.

Kit Z. Fox

It's not just the "whore" part. It is focusing on assumptions about user behavior.

Q: Space vs area around

I'd like to know if "area" and "space" can be considered as perfect synonyms when they are used to refer to regions surrounding a physical object, as in this sentence: This zone is applied to the area/space within the pumping station, the area/space around the storage tank 5m in diameter, a...

vocabulary

So I was thinking about this.

And does it seems like "space" is empty where "area" might contain other objects, or is that just me?

Tonepoet

@Mitch I didn't want to endorse what I consider malapropism, so I didn't answer at the question asking for a substitute, but I think rep-monger would probably work just as well.

Kit Z. Fox

@Tonepoet No, I mean that's specifically addressed in the comments on one of the answers.

You don't call the user anything. See this comment on the question — ChrisF 10 hours ago

Mitch

18:25

@KitZ.Fox OK. but the terminology really adds stigma to it. Is it actually not a thing then, a practice of answering lots of closable questions to scrounge up empty points?

Kit Z. Fox

Just read all the stuff and then ask questions.

Tonepoet

@KitZ.Fox It was a long time since I looked at the question, and I think it was posted to the main site originally, assuming it's the same one I meant. While I can understand a user by a pejorative name is bad, we might need a name for the class of users engaging in behavior to effectively discuss policy, don't you think?

Kit Z. Fox

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox OK. But then that should be answered in the question to make it clear to people.

Kit Z. Fox

That's in the post.

user208178

18:27

Nice chatting guys.

user208178

Farewell.

Mitch

@Tonepoet I think that's the point of the post, that even non-pejorative names for the activity presumes tendentiously that a person is doing it. guilty by labeling.

@KitZ.Fox where in the post?

Kit Z. Fox

I have to go do other things.

Mitch

nice. I'm currently avoiding doing other things that I should go do.

Færd

@Mazura Thanks. That n-gram chart doesn't prove your point, but I can imagine all of them being referred to also as the vet.

Mazura

18:37

Either way, the important word is veterinarian: "veterinary practice, hospital, or clinic" Register Your Veterinary Practice - because they're either a licensed vet or they're not. I would bet money that all those locations are registered with their state as a "veterinary" something.

Færd

Mhm. That seems to be true.