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12:00 AM
A strategic weapon does not blow up enemy soldiers?
And a tactical weapon is not used to blow up a factory?
 
ballistic missiles, the intercontinental kind ;p
 
Beyond long term v. short term and long range v. short range, it all seems a bit vague.
 
@MετάEd That's strategical tactics.
 
@MετάEd error..error..re-engaging flag deployment
 
@Cerberus Yes, basically. But don't quibble about there being a few soldiers at the factory. They're not trying to break through your lines. There's no "battle" going on.
 
12:01 AM
@MετάEd that makes sense but I've never been able to remember it.
 
@Mitch That's because of the fnords.
 
@Mazura And ballistic means they don't use rocket power during most of their trajectory?
 
@Cerberus Right, unpowered. They simply fall.
 
@MετάEd That's really not what I would think of, but OK. And you know what the next question would be: when is something a battle?
 
@Cerberus No, but that's true. Only means its type of trajectory.
 
12:03 AM
If a sniper commando goes out to kill some enemy officers?
 
@Cerberus Thank goodness you didn't ask that!
 
I'd never!
 
You totally would.
 
@MετάEd Well, unpowered: is that really true?
 
Gravity works.
 
12:04 AM
Surely a launcher is not capable of launching a missile like a rocket into orbit high enough?
It would probably be very inefficient and destroy the rocket?
 
If your launcher is the STS, no problem.
 
@Mazura No, gravity does not work. The earth sucks.
 
"Ballistics (gr. βάλλειν ('ba'llein'), "to throw")"
 
STS?
 
It was the slogan of a martial art I once knew. Gravity works.
 
12:06 AM
Stratego-Tactical System
 
STS-1 (Space Transportation System-1) was the first orbital spaceflight of NASA's Space Shuttle program. The first orbiter, Columbia, launched on 12 April 1981 and returned on 14 April, 54.5 hours later, having orbited the Earth 37 times. Columbia carried a crew of two – mission commander John W. Young and pilot Robert L. Crippen. It was the first American manned space flight since the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project in 1975. STS-1 was also the only maiden test flight of a new US spacecraft to carry a crew, though it was preceded by atmospheric testing of the orbiter and ground testing of the space shuttle...
 
@MετάEd One of my SFF answer mentions that.
 
@MετάEd This was the first American ICBM. Looks pretty powered to me.
@Mazura I see power.
 
Not once it's in orbit.
 
12:09 AM
7 mins ago, by Cerberus
@Mazura And ballistic means they don't use rocket power during most of their trajectory?
I said this.
Both of you disagreed: no, it can't be using power at all during its trajectory.
A truly ballistic missile imo. is like a cannon ball or an arrow.
 
@Cerberus Both of us who?
 
But I can understand why you would call it ballistic as long as it is unpowered most of its trajectory.
9 mins ago, by MετάEd
@Cerberus Right, unpowered. They simply fall.
 
The operative word being "right". I agreed.
 
I can't remember the difference. There's howitzers and cannons. One of them is ballistic, and the other is... um [word].
 
Or I could have said "no" or "wrong".
 
12:11 AM
OK then.
I thought you were correcting me.
 
all bullets are 'ballistic'
 
Yeah.
@Mazura Rockets?
 
cruise missilse are not ballistic, they are self powered
 
But are howitzers really rockets?
Aren't they more like mortars?
 
One of them needs a direct line of site and the other doesn't.
 
12:13 AM
nuclear bullets.
 
@Mitch Indeed.
 
@Mazura I thought a howitzer is a cannon.
 
No, I'm trying to point out the difference in 'trajectory' as it pertains to projectiles.
 
Although cruise missiles may not be 100% self powered?
@Mazura I believe you.
 
99.99%
they are dropped from planes I think
then they start up.
 
12:14 AM
All howitzers are cannons, not all cannons are howitzers.
 
OK.
 
"at relatively high trajectories, with a steep angle of descent."
 
I think submarines can launch cruise missiles.
 
oh. yeah. they shoot up for a bit then they go sideways and are then selfpropelling
 
Or perhaps it is the missile's engine that lifts it up from the deck?
 
12:17 AM
What's the question? lol
Pretty sure subs have ICBMs these days.
 
@DanBron It is your work. You are forced to work at this site and answer my questions, likewise you is our slave. This is basically what you are saying. Keep demonstrating how cool and important you are. Attacking questions is a best way to demonstrate your strength and make a name, right? — Valentin Tihomirov 2 hours ago
We have a problem user.
 
<waves black flag>
 
@MετάEd that was well-reasoned and insightful. clear headed and even.
 
You probably was puzzled by the question and inspired your answer from the discussion with sumelic. Certainly, your capacity to disregard (the question) deserves a high price. I see how you've made your capital. — Valentin Tihomirov 2 hours ago
 
Yea you was, yo!
 
@Mazura you can do that? rethinks entire surrender strategy
 
"I ask questions here because I cannot find the answer in EOL. Those monkeys cannot find the answer there as well. Guess, what do they recommend me to look at in the comments.

Looking at the behaviour of monkey, I guess that EOL was intentionally designed to shut down questions at english.se site. EOL contains a couple of words, a supreflows description of every words, which is not sufficient for everything. But, the fact that you can find a sentence on every words makes monkeys happy forcing you to believe that EOL answers everything."
 
Every all them words.
Also, WTF is EOL?
ELO?
Good music.
 
No idea.
 
Oh wow. They are not a 1rep. Yikes.
 
12:22 AM
@Mazura I imagine it's Etymology Online.
@Mazura The user profile seems to be a personal attack on monkeys^h^h^h^h^h^h^hpeople who suggest that he do research.
 
And I would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those damn monkeys!
 
Reg is good at letting new users know to play nice. Too bad he's on hiatus.
 
They're not all that new though.
That what scares me.
Look at their site list.
They seem to be relatively capable of civility. We grammar nazis can be a tough crowd.
 
@Mazura When you factor out the +100 bonus they're all low rep.
 
I don't think it took me a whole year to figure out SE though...
 
12:35 AM
@Mazura Us grammar nazis. Grammar Nazis.
 
I figured you don't capitalize it. Like googling something.
 
It's a Capitoline word.
 
At least I don't think it should be. That be offensive.
 
Maybe I mean it's a Caryatid.
 
We is better than us.
 
12:38 AM
We have met the enemy, and it is us.
 
Have we?
 
Made you nictitate.
 
Without pedantry, this site would not exist.
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Pogo is the title and central character of a long-running daily American comic strip, created by cartoonist Walt Kelly (1913–1973) and distributed by the Post-Hall Syndicate. Set in the Okefenokee Swamp of the southeastern United States, the strip often engaged in social and political satire through the adventures of its anthropomorphic funny animal characters. Pogo combined both sophisticated wit and slapstick physical comedy in a heady mix of allegory, Irish poetry, literary whimsy, puns and wordplay, lushly detailed artwork and broad burlesque humor. The same series of strips can be enjoyed...
 
@MετάEd I have to look up all most everything you post.
 
12:41 AM
@Cerberus Purism.
 
Italics are not pure English.
 
@Cerberus Angles are not pure Italian.
And gullible is not in the Dictionary.
 
You should just use Roma...oops.
 
And it ain't, if'n you're reading the one by Ambrose Bierce.
@Cerberus How you like them apples?
 
lalala
 
12:44 AM
@MετάEd as a close relative of monkeys, I take exception to these attacks.
 
@Mitch As an ape, I have to agree.
Okay. Time for me to transport my hairy self home.
 
Or shave?
 
@MετάEd I don't know what 'taking exception' means. It just sounds good. Ruffled. Equivocant. A la mode even.
 
1:04 AM
Google doesn't like your equivocateness.
@Mitch At least with you it's only a quarter of what you say I have to look up ;)
 
1:41 AM
@MετάEd Memories.....
@MετάEd ELP
 
your thoughts on singular they?
 
@user3587180 Yes.
Singular they is the use in English of the pronoun they, or its inflected or derivative forms, such as them, their, themself, or themselves, as a gender-neutral pronoun to refer to a single person or an antecedent that is grammatically singular. It typically occurs with an antecedent of indeterminate gender, as in sentences such as: "Somebody left their umbrella in the office. Would they please collect it?" "The patient should be told at the outset how much they will be required to pay." "But a journalist should not be forced to reveal their sources." The singular they had emerged by the mid-14th...
I refer to OPs as them they and theirs
I don't know anyone's gender over the internet.
 
got a bad grade in a paper for using... even though it's right
 
It is ambiguous, but that's better than making a gender mistake.
 
agree
thanks
 
1:53 AM
In school you might get docked for ambiguity, IRL it's the other way 'round
However, that's my opinion and not shared by even the majority of people, I think.
 
I don't care so much about the grade.. rather looking for objectivity when someone is grading something.. nbd though
just wanted to see what the community thought about it
 
I would teach kids not to use it.
At least not in formal language.
But opinions are divided.
 
So what do you use in formal writing if you don't know their gender?
 
He.
The traditional common gender pronoun.
 
I use his or her. But it makes writing boring
 
1:59 AM
Heh.
Using his is international and ancient.
His or her is long.
Varying between his and her is...nice, I suppose, but distracting.
 
her for mother earth ;)
 
@user3587180 - The last discussion I had about it: world building transcript
 
Haha sure!
And ships.
Other vehicles.
Any proper name ending on -a.
Many proper names ending on -e, like France.
 
@Mazura thanks for the link
 
I'd have to think singular they is considered more gender neutral then he of all things, regardless of correctness.
 
2:02 AM
@Cerberus right on!
 
@user3587180 Where the only one chiming in disagreed... so, there you go.
 
@Mazura Neutral, sure. But I often find the plural...discordant.
 
he is more ambiguous then they. Or rather, can be misleading. they says I don't know.
That it should be reserved for plural is what I disagree with. Or at least I think that was Daaaahwooshes's point
Context should tell you if it's plural or not. If it doesn't, it doesn't matter.
 
They can be equally misleading.
@Mazura Just as context tells you whether it's masculine or common gender.
All other languages use he, that I know.
And English has used it for millennia.
Singular they has existed for a few centuries in English, but it was never big, until recently.
 
The OP says he's such and such.
The OP says they're such and such.
 
2:12 AM
One problem is that it they isn't even really singular.
 
1st one says he's a dude to me. 2nd one say's it's one person.
 
To me, the second one tells me the OP is talking about several people.
 
You can't run around calling everyone he.
 
Sure I can?
It's traditional.
 
OP is singular.
 
2:13 AM
Yes, so they does not refer to the OP.
 
There's no other ... um... subject (?) in the sentence.
 
No, but he could be talking about other people.
 
Hmm, I see.
 
We don't know.
One thing about singular they is that it isn't even treated as singular, because it takes a plural verb.
 
wonder why the english gurus did not create a word that is not "they" but reprints he or she
 
2:16 AM
Reprints?
 
other language(s) have this
 
Well, whatever, so long as we don't stat using that other word.
 
@user3587180 I'm not sure what you mean, but other languages use he.
At least the ones I know.
 
There's a neologism that hasn't caught on, thankfully.
 
Oh, there are many...
 
2:17 AM
enu or something
 
i speak an indian language and in writing we can use a word that represents he or she
 
And thon...
@user3587180 Ah, you have a special word that can be he or she?
Which language is this?
 
Hir is a gender-neutral pronoun used as him/her or his/her. Hir or HIR may also refer to: == Places == Hir, Iran, a city in Ardabil Province, Iran Hir District, a district in Ardabil Province, Iran Hir Rural District, a rural district in Ardabil Province, Iran Hir, Qazvin, a village in Qazvin Province, Iran Hir, Sistan and Baluchestan, a village in Sistan and Baluchestan Province, Iran Honiara International Airport (IATA code), Solomon Islands == Other uses == Harvard International Review, a quarterly journal on international affairs Halogen Infrared Reflective, a type of lightbulb ==...
Yuck.
 
Haha.
There are 1001 such creations.
 
@Cerberus i'm not disagreeing with you.. just wondering why english language creators did not think about this..
@Cerberus language is hindi
 
2:20 AM
I didn't think you were disagreeing.
 
The word is human.
 
@user3587180 The reason is that, in practice, using he as the common gender is not ambiguous because of context.
@user3587180 OK good to know.
Just as they can be misleading but is probably not ambiguous in context, usually, once you get used to it.
 
I can't not use it.
Once I found a way to not apply gender, I didn't look back.
When I fill out forms, I mark other. 'cause that's wack, yo.
 
Haha.
Those who use he don't see it as a specific gender in the right context.
A word can have different meanings.
 
Country of origin and race? : Earth, human.
@Cerberus - Now that I even know that, I still don't think I'll ever see it other wise.
 
2:29 AM
You mean the country as opposed to the city?
@Mazura If you read anything from before 1950 or 1900...
This is nice.
Microsoft Office malware.
The bad document wants you to turn of macros.
Never seen such a thing, have you?
 
@Cerberus Gah. Stuff isn't loading for me today. Someone wana star that so I can get the link?
 
How's that?
 
Not available.
 
Ow.
Then the domain of Ars Technica must be blocked for you.
Or loading images in your browser is blocked.
 
It would be adblock's doing then, I'd guess.
 
2:32 AM
And this?
 
Nope.
 
OK that was Imgur.
 
I'm on XP so...
 
Then it's images.
I'm on XP too.
You must be using a crude ad blocker.
Switch to Ublock Origin!
 
Firefox stopped loading pics like 6 months ago. Had to switch to chrome. Who's spellcheck sucks...
Whom's?
 
2:34 AM
Huh.
 
No one says that.
 
Then there is something wrong with your Firefox.
 
Whom's spellcheck sucks.
 
Whose.
Have you tried it in a new profile?
 
Erm, profile?
I'm using the default adblock plus. What you got?
 
2:36 AM
I use Ublock Origin.
You don't know what a Firefox profile is?
 
Nope.
 
File → open profile manager.
Create a new profile to test it.
Or File → launch another profile (if you already have other profiles)
 
The only 'open' I have is "open file".
 
Huh.
Maybe I have that option because of an addon I use, then.
 
I've never made an account.
 
2:40 AM
Nor I.
You can do Help → Restart with addons disabled.
Just to test it.
 
I suppose I could test it w\o adblock, but that's no solution until I get some other blocker going.
You're right.
It's adblock... or, unlikely, some other random add-on.
Sweet, so I can switch back. Chrome is a little too resource intensive on my old internet box here.
And get to use the spellchecker that I've been teaching for the last five years.
 
This is Ublock Origin.
It's the best ad blocker at the moment.
It's a little bit more fiddly than Adblock Plus.
But it's also not corrupt.
 
Advice? oh... so it's not run-and-done?
 
Almost.
I actually think it is.
But if you want to change things, it may be a bit more complicated.
But perhaps you never change anything in your ad blocker anyway?
 
Default is usually good. I never had any complaints with ABP.
 
2:48 AM
You can try it, disable it if you don't like it.
Adblock Plus accepts money from big companies that want their ads whitelisted by Adblock Plus.
 
99% of the garbage is gone, and until recently it was 100%.
 
OK.
Ublock Origin is 100% to me, I think.
Facebook ads, Youtube ads, all of it.
 
ABP has people's lists you can add. I'm not sure if they negate any of the white lists though. I only wish it blocked the we see you use adblock ;( please don't pffft
 
Ublock Origin has all that and more.
It uses the exact same lists, like Easylist.
But you can check a few more lists, including ones that block "we see you use adblock".
Oh haha, you can't see that.
 
Sweet!!! Coming to you live from Firefox! Thanks for the link and the tips. - Now I can.
 
2:57 AM
Oh! Congrats!
You have Ublock Origin installed?
 
<closes chrome and regains it's half gig of memory used to display text>
@Cerberus Yep, thanks.
 
Great.
 
Bookmarking that makes sense. Oh, how I've missed thee.
 
Yay!
Bookmarking the Ublock page? Smart!
 
3:38 AM
No, I mean Chrome's UI is clunky. It's like they tried to applize and failed. You know what I'm talking about. XP FTW.
 
Absolutely!
 
It's just round enough.
After XP it was over.
 
3:54 AM
@Cerberus I just used he for an OP. Now I'm divided about they.
Damn language is languaging.
@IͶΔ Do you have a link to that; what Shog said about it?
 
4:18 AM
@Mazura Haha nice!
@Mazura Well done!
 
4:35 AM
@Mazura google is weird like that, not recognizing all nonwords
 
 
1 hour later…
6:01 AM
SE needs a script that returns a Google search of your title and asks you if you still want to post your question.
90% of for lack of research VTCs would cease.
 
 
2 hours later…
7:54 AM
@Mazura Hi, Mazura. How are you.
Ladies and gentlemen, 64th edit!!! english.stackexchange.com/questions/3/…
 

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