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11:03 AM

I'm not even talking about rep or anything.. Simply that when choosing to work on something, I give it the best I can, regardless of there being a reward for it

now I'm just being a dick I guess, but leaving in things like 'much be' and 'i' doesns't suggest a very thorough approach :P

Rathony

@Terah Indeed. It was a joke. :-)

Terah

yikes - doesn't*

Rathony

You don't earn 2 rep after you pass 2,000 points, I guess.

Terah

Hehe, sorry then - it got lost in translation ;)

Rathony

You know what is so f-ing frustrating? You do your best part, but missed a typo or two. One user jumps in with a comment. "What the heck did you do that for?"

Terah

11:05 AM

Well, I did the edit, but I wasn't sure about the tags (I really have to delve into those over the weekend) so I left them alone for now

Rathony

@Terah I approved it. Tags are not that critical

And some users don't even care about them.

There are too many tags.

ELL is working on the problem thanks to @IͶΔ

IͶΔ

We are?

Yay

Nay?

May?

Might

11:07 AM

That doesn't end in "ay"

Terah

Thanks @Rathony

IͶΔ

Tags are only critical if you say they're critical.

Rathony

My pleasure. I was once chided rejecting an edit.

IͶΔ

They're pretty important on science sites.

On language sites, they're bad and ignored.

Rathony

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Q: Curious why my suggested edit was rejected

I edited the question found here: What does “(Iran’s hard-liners’) attempt to sabotage an agenda that is about to slip from their grasp” mean? There were several typos in the passage that I had fixed, checking with the original quote. I was rejected on the grounds that my edits went too far in ...

@IͶΔ True. Some tags overlap.

Terah

11:09 AM

Haha, well, I'm still here to learn, so reject away if I ever do a poor edit

IͶΔ

Rejects away

Rathony

I just undeleted my answer for you to see @Terah. See the fucking ridiculous comments.

IͶΔ

@Rathony I'd've approved that. Then again, I'm a rash approver.

@Rath your ionization energy is low.

Rathony

@Terah Let me know when you finish reading it. I need to delete the answer again.

Terah

I read it just now

IͶΔ

11:12 AM

meta.english.stackexchange.com/questions/7532/… -- DISENGAGE, DISENGAGE

Rathony

So you feel why I am tired of editing?

I deleted the answer again. :-)

terdon

@Rathony Your last paragraph doesn't make sense. What does in respect of mean?

Terah

Haha, yeah, go through that a few times and it'd discourage anyone

IͶΔ

BTW do you guys prefer coffee or tea as beverage?

After water of course.

terdon

Do you mean with respect to? That exists, but doesn't really mean anything in this context.

Rathony

11:14 AM

@terdon In which sentence you mean?

Terah

I'm still seeing "This edit will be visible only to you until it is peer reviewed" btw - not that it matters, but just putting it out there

Rathony

@Terah It was not the first time. There were a few public humilations

terdon

> The preposition for could be replaced by in. However, the reason to use for is to mean in respect of and imply that there could be another world when I leave this world.

> I won't be long in respect of (for) this world and I will be in another world after I am done in this world.

IͶΔ

Wha?

terdon

In respect of doesn't mean anything.

And with respect to doesn't make sense. I don't know what you're trying to say there. Perhaps you would be interested in our sister site, English Language Learners. :P

Rathony

11:17 AM

Please edit the post.

terdon

@Rathony I would, but I honestly have no idea what your last point is.

Rathony

@Terah I think it is better to insert "know" between don't and how.

Terah

foot in mouth... added 'know'

that was quite the oversight on my part, sorry

Rathony

No worry. It happens.

I don't see your edit queue yet.

Terah

There it is 'know' was too short

Rathony

11:25 AM

Karl and Rathony are also responsible for the edit as we approved it. english.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/168331

Terah

but the title could use a minor update as well, so I made 6 character minimum after all

Rathony

I see. I think reduced is better than reduce.

Maybe "Can I used the reduced relative clause..."

Oh, you deleted use. That's even better.

Terah

hehe, yeah - another oversight of my first edit -_-

Rathony

I will write a Meta post about your edit!!!

Terah

o.O!

terdon

11:30 AM

@Rathony the only edit I could make is to remove everything after "As the above example shows, it is usually used in a negative sentence.". I'm afraid it's completely wrong.

for could most certainly not be replaced by in in the phrase not long for this world. I mean, it could, but it effectively reverses the meaning. Not long in this world means that you haven't been in this world for long.

Not long for this world means that you won't be in this world for much longer.

Rathony

Please go ahead.

terdon

Also, as I said before, in respect of really doesn't mean anything.

OK

Rathony

Edit is to improve a post.

Thanks.

Oh, I answered @Terah's question before...

I didn't even know it was @Terah's question.

Terah

Haha, I was reading back on this and thought 'this looks familiar' :P

Rathony

@terdon So sorry. I thought you were talking about my ELL answer.

I was looking for MY ELL answers.

I was completely at a loss.

terdon

11:35 AM

Oh, my bad, since you said you'd answered @Terah's question, I looked at the only question she (he?) has on the site.

Terah

He*

Rathony

@Terah you need to pass 3K mark.

Terah

Haha, appreciate it

I was already pleasantly surprised by the 100 rep I got after signing up with ELL

Rathony

I heavily upvote those users who contribute a lot.

That's just a bonus because you have rep points on ELU.

There are also interesting sites like History, Law, etc.

Terah

Well, there's still a lot to learn here for me, not just about the English language but about best practices concerning moderation, etc so I hope to be contributing for a long time to come :)

Rathony

11:38 AM

If you are religious, you can visit some religious sites, too.

@Terah We need more close-voters. That's 3,000 mark.

Terah

Yeah, I noticed that too, but I'd just swamp myself, so I put that on my 'somewhere this year' list.

Rathony

You can always flag when you see off-topic questions. You will get a gold badge if you pass 500 helpful flags.

Terah

As for religion.. I think religion is a naturally occurring phenomena to help man deal with things that cannot be rationally explained. I do think there is more out there than just stars (and whatnot) but I don't 'believe' like I guess most religious people do, in that I should live a certain way, or that a deity will judge me... If/when I'll be judged, it'll be by the balance of life itself, or karma.

(just a little background info on me there)

Well, I'll do my best to get to the 3000 as soon as possible, mostly by edits (<2000) and answering questions the best way I can (hopefully attracting some upvotes along the way :))

Rathony

@Terah I have accounts on all the religious sites. I sometimes visit them and read hot questions. (mostly upvoted). It is very insightful.

@Terah There are not many users who are very active. Your efforts will be noticed.

Terah

Oh, I don't shy away from religious topics, but I see religions, especially the old ones, as first attempts at philosophy

Rathony

11:46 AM

The problem is there are not many answerable questions. :-)

@Terah Exactly. philosophical questions about life and everything.

Terah

I like those :)

mostly because often there is no one answer, and it's always nice so get other people's views on things... really broadens one's horizon :)

BRB for bit, really need to get some food in me

Rathony

Yeap. I got to watch Spotlight. See you around.

IͶΔ

Terah

12:19 PM

If I were Paul, I'd change hotel :O

Rathony

1:07 PM

@terah Hi, are you here?

Regarding this question, english.stackexchange.com/questions/311500/…

You can edit the question making it more focused on the term if you want. Then, it will appear on reopen review and we can start to vote.

tchrist

1:24 PM

> But with all its manifold new words from other tongues, English could never
have become anything but English. And as such it has sent out to the world,
among many other things, some of the best books the world has ever known.
It is not unlikely, in the light of writing by English speakers in earlier
times, that this would have been so even if we had never taken any words from
outside the word hoard that has come down to us from those times. It is true
that what we have borrowed has brought greater wealth to our word stock,

@Cerberus ^^^^^^

It's like that curious incident of the dog in the night-time with Sherlock Holmes.

Saladin

hello

in response to an email from hr with starting line goes like

"We are pleased to welcome you on behalf of all xyzTeam. We value your association with us and hope you have an enriching experience throughout the tenure. "

can i reply back saying "thank you for warm welcome"

Rathony

@Saladin Thank you for your e-mail. I will be looking forward to working with you all.

It would be simpler and to the point.

Saladin

thanks @Rathony

Rathony

@Saladin There could be millions of ways to write it. It's just a personal style and preference.

Terah

1:50 PM

@Rathony I'm here and I read your message, tnx for the info!

I was trying to leverage work against browsing SE - this stuff is addictive

@tchrist This reminds of an article or book I read (and I can't remember the name or write for the life of me) about how the English that is now so prevalent was at one time nothing but a nearly extinct dialect that somehow manages a huge revival...I'm going to find out what the book was called, it was very interesting (imo).

Rathony

@Terah But the problem is it doesn't look very easy to save the question.

Terah

@Rathony - I agree completely. I just added a comment urging the OP to move the question to the writers SE. I really hope he/she understands why and will cooperate.

At first I wasn't sure, but as the comments are piling up, it's clear this is not a question for ELU.

Rathony

@Terah I doubt it would be an on-topic question there. I am not familiar with Writer SE, but tough.

Definitely Writer SE will be a better site for that question than ELU.

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