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tchrist

13:00

Thousands of people died at the fort.
Thousands of people died on the fort.
Thousands of people died in the fort.
Thousands of people died for the fort.
Thousands of people died by the fort.
Thousands of people died under the fort.

Robusto

Thousands of people died with the fort.

tchrist

Just use whichever one you mean.

Robusto

Thousands of people died above/below the fort.

tchrist

He who lives by the fort dies by the fort.

Robusto

Is Brazil the only Portuguese-speaking country in So. America?

tchrist

13:02

Officially.

Robusto

Pockets exist in other countries?

tchrist

Portuguese is the official language in Brazil, Mozambique, Angola, Portugal, Guinea-Bissau, East Timor, Equatorial Guinea, Cape Verde, and São Tomé and Príncipe.

Matt E. Эллен

Thousands of people died the fort

tchrist

A Comunidade dos Países de Língua Portuguesa comprises nine member states.

But that doesn’t mean nobody else speaks it.

My catsitter is Portuguese. :)

Robusto

@tchrist That's what I was asking when I said "Pockets exist in other [South American] countries?"

tchrist

13:04

But his Spanish is better than his Portuguese; he’s a native English speaker.

Robusto

Pockets of Portuguese speakers.

Enclaves, so to speak.

OK, time for my Mac EFI Security Update 2015-001.

So I will leave you all for a while.

tchrist

Yes.

@Robusto In Uruguay and Paraguay in particular.

Not Portuguay. :)

Visitors from neighboring South American countries who visit Brazil often come speaking a Portuñol creole, but that hardly counts.

Justyna Nogala

Do you know to say that someone gives somebody to death ?

tchrist

I don' t know what that means .

Kills someone?

Justyna Nogala

something like turn sb in

yes

how to say that in the best way

tchrist

13:12

Gives them up for dead is something else.

You mean when somebody reports the poor person to some death-dealing agency and thereby condemns that person to death?

“Was complicit in the murder of”

Justyna Nogala

look

Rabbi said he was not the one who gave them lives and would not be the one...

to give them up for dead/?

Matt E. Эллен

there are 5 hits in google books of "gave him over to death"

Justyna Nogala

to send them to death ?

tchrist

I am unimpress.

> “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.”

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt Yikes! That looks like a new city.

But which one? They all look alike.

tchrist

13:18

@JustynaNogala That might be better, yes.

Justyna Nogala

which one ?

to send to death ? right ?

tchrist

Possibly, yes.

Robusto

@JustynaNogala " . . . he was not the one who gave them their lives so he would not be the one to send them to their deaths."

Justyna Nogala

"to their deaths" sounds kinda artificially to me

its like everyone of them would die a different death

What is to be said is that the will be executed i.e either shot or buried alive

the will die the same death

tchrist

Each man's death is his own.

RegDwigнt

13:25

@Cerberus yeah, barely 3000 years old. With early traces of civilization going back a measly 270000 years.

First hint of scale:

Robusto

@JustynaNogala Who you gonna trust, me or your own sense of English?

RegDwigнt

@Robusto haha nonono you must never ask her that.

I tried, it did me no good.

Besides, you full well know the answer.

Robusto

Ah me.

Justyna Nogala

everyone can be wrong

Robusto

@JustynaNogala What are the odds that your sense of English is better than mine? Seriously.

Justyna Nogala

13:28

I can't trust anyone

Robusto

OK, you have trust issues. I get that.

Justyna Nogala

I didn't say that

:D

RegDwigнt

Fact: some people have full-time jobs making up for other people's ineptitude at being wrong.

Justyna Nogala

How do I know you're not telling me the wrong answers?

Matt E. Эллен

why are you asking, then?

you might as well write it out on a piece of paper and imagine the conversation.

RegDwigнt

13:29

@JustynaNogala How do you know you're not asking us the wrong questions?

Robusto

@JustynaNogala If your level of distrust is that deep, nothing I can say to you will convince you that I am sincere in my effort to help you. Not only sincere, but immensely competent.

RegDwigнt

Also, rich and handsome.

Justyna Nogala

Oh my god

Robusto

11 mins ago, by Robusto

@JustynaNogala " . . . he was not the one who gave them their lives so he would not be the one to send them to their deaths."

Justyna Nogala

I was joking

hahaha

ok let me go back to work

RegDwigнt

13:31

Oh hahahaha, now I get it. Haha.

Robusto

Humor is the hardest thing to translate.

Matt E. Эллен

in internet noöne can hear you sarcasm

Justyna Nogala

good point

RegDwigнt

1. Take humor. 2. Take some C-4 and a crowbar. 3. Translate.

Robusto

@Cerberus it looks like Carthage?

RegDwigнt

13:34

Carthage against the machine.

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt is it a literal heat map of Addis Ababa?

Robusto

In other news: Apple is buying Tunisia and renaming its capital iTunis.

Matt E. Эллен

I will buy Apple and rename it iPple

Robusto

You can't afford to buy Apple these days.

Nobody can.

Matt E. Эллен

I'll trick them to sell it to me for some fake deeds I don't own. TheTaj Mahal and Buckingham Palace or something

Robusto

13:39

I think Apple already owns Buckingham Palace. Better check again.

Seriously, can you imagine the queen using a Windows PC?

I wonder if the queen tweets.

Matt E. Эллен

I can't imagine her using anything that isn't steam powered

Robusto

So that's where all the steam is going. Seriously, what does the queen do all day?

RegDwigнt

@MattE.Эллен no, and this shall be the last hint: it is a literal heat map of the price of tea.

Robusto

I can't imagine being presented to the queen. How bizarre would that be? And how much more bizarre if you were high at the time?

Matt E. Эллен

not much more bizarre, probably. Already lots of bright colours and an incomprehensibleness to proceedings

RegDwigнt

13:42

@Robusto a coworker of mine holds a couple shares. I think if you do the math, the portion of the company he owns is the size of one Tim Cook. But Tim Cook runs the entire thing, ergo my coworker holds the entire company.

Robusto

@MattE.Эллен If you laugh during the proceedings do they throw you in the Tower?

Matt E. Эллен

depends if the Queen told a joke or was being serious

RegDwigнt

@Robusto tea, signing boring papers, tea, gossip, tea, gossip, signing boring papers, tea, rocking us, making supersonic men out of us, tea, sleep.

Robusto

Surely at here age she has signed all the papers there are to sign.

Unless they're just giving her make-work.

Matt E. Эллен

but it must be done in triplicate

RegDwigнt

13:45

No, she forgot the one paper saying "I herewith have signed the last of you".

Robusto

How many fucking papers do you have in England? And why haven't you digitized them by now?

???

RegDwigнt

LOL DUDE. How do you sign a digitized paper???? She's a Queen, not a megabyte.

You've really not been to the Middle Ages, you noob.

Robusto

A monarch is merely another form of arch.

RegDwigнt

Not unlike this one.

Matt E. Эллен

the image available at molon.de arch

molon: a colon made of moles

RegDwigнt

13:49

Molon: a Chinese moron.

Robusto

Molon labe (in greek μολὼν λαβέ) is the gun nut's favorite tee shirt these days.

Matt E. Эллен

Μολον λαμπε

RegDwigнt

Shia Labe (in Transformese) is Michael Bay's.

Robusto

Only the twits spell it in all caps.

RegDwigнt

@MattE.Эллен Maly had a little lamp.

Matt E. Эллен

13:51

that's how the Greeks say it :D

Robusto

The Greeks didn't even have guns.

M.A.Ramezani

@RegDwigнt . . .tea, making fake pics of her stand in a sandwich queue, tea. . .

Matt E. Эллен

"Octomber" is my favourite

Robusto

I'm fine with gun nuts owning spears and bronze swords and all that.

RegDwigнt

What does the Greek say? Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow! Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho!

M.A.Ramezani

13:52

Hey guys, sorry for my shtoopid jumping in.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt Yes, but the old inner city is only a tiny speck compared to the new, sprawling suburbs, right?

Peking?

M.A.Ramezani

I'm double-triple-quad-multitasking now.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus ding ding ding.

Cerberus

I knew it.

RegDwigнt

Which is Greek for something.

Cerberus

13:53

I'm afraid not.

RegDwigнt

It is.

Otherwise the Greek wouldn't say "Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!"

Cerberus

In Greek, you can't have an ng sound followed by nothing.

M.A.Ramezani

I thought that was Nokia.

Cerberus

Nor even an ngg sound followed by nothing.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus Exactly! Which is why they follow it up by a D or an exclamation mark.

Cerberus

13:54

@RegDwigнt That sounds more like Dutch.

RegDwigнt

Someone help Cerberus out.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt I don't think that is possible either. Greek has rather strict phonological rules.

RegDwigнt

Oct 23 '13 at 20:59, by RegDwigнt

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Cerberus

My cousin is in Peking now.

She is wearing a mouth cap on most days.

Robusto

Better tell her to duck!

RegDwigнt

13:54

My posse is on Broadway.

Cerberus

She is female.

Matt E. Эллен

He is male

Robusto

She is always female. And he is always male.

jinxish

Matt E. Эллен

jinx

Cerberus

Really??

RegDwigнt

13:55

I am always lol.

Robusto

@MattE.Эллен NO U

Cerberus

You Englishers are so wise.

bows to room

RegDwigнt

Love is a bird, he needs to fly.

Justyna Nogala

what to call an enormous cemetery ?

RegDwigнt

Susan.

Call it Susan.

Justyna Nogala

13:55

xDD

Cerberus

L'amour est un oiseau rebelle.

Robusto

@JustynaNogala Is it full of lawyers?

Matt E. Эллен

Wiser than the river Danube

RegDwigнt

Or Your Mom.

Justyna Nogala

you and your sense of humor

RegDwigнt

13:56

Call it Your Mom.

Cerberus

^ Sounds rather feminine.

Oops, I misspole.

Robusto

Can't Understand Nothing Today!

RegDwigнt

@MattE.Эллен Tommy Wiseau than the river Danube.

Cerberus

It is un oiseau.

RegDwigнt

2 hours ago, by RegDwigнt

Cerberus

13:56

Rebelle sounded so feminine.

M.A.Ramezani

teknia.com/greekalphabet/greek-punctuation-syllabification Hmm. . .

RegDwigнt

L'amour est un Wiseau rebeil.

Cerberus

I'm sure @Robusto knows the line.

And Reg too, prolly.

RegDwigнt

Il faut l'apprivoiser.

@Cerberus no, I only know the lines before and after. Sorry!

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt I knew it!

Robusto

13:58

Carmen, of course.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt Lies.

Is there a line before it?

RegDwigнt

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Cerberus

@Robusto Of course.

Justyna Nogala

lets say there are 10000 bodies buried in the woods. The place of the burial has no boundaries is it still a cemetery ?

Robusto

@Cerberus Not one that is sung.

Matt E. Эллен

13:59

@JustynaNogala it's definitely a burial ground

M.A.Ramezani

@JustynaNogala No, it'll be called nature then.

Cerberus

@Robusto Right.

@JustynaNogala No, more like a mass grave.

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