English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Matt E. Эллен

16:00

@Cerberus Taipei's tallest building is good to go up

RegDwigнt

What about going down again? Not good?

Cerberus

@MattE.Эллен I like old temples! And they have the fabulous museum.

Have you been to the museum?

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt the closer you get to the ground the more people are around you

RegDwigнt

Go deeper, then.

Matt E. Эллен

@Cerberus I went to a couple. which one do you mean?

RegDwigнt

16:01

Trust me, there's very few people at the Earth's core. Basically just Hillary Swank.

Cerberus

I don't know, but the one where they brought the countless treasure trains from Peking to?

Probably the National Museum or something?

Matt E. Эллен

Oh, I think I know the one you mean.

@Cerberus yes, the National Museum. I know I walked through the park there, and looked at the trains. I can't remember if I went in the museum

probably

Cerberus

> By the time the items arrived in Taiwan, the Communist army had already seized control of the Palace Museum collection so not all of the collection could be sent to Taiwan. A total of 2,972 crates of artifacts from the Forbidden City moved to Taiwan only accounted for 22% of the crates originally transported south, although the pieces represented some of the very best of the collection.

National Palace Museum

The National Palace Museum (traditional Chinese: 國立故宮博物院; simplified Chinese: 国立故宫博物院; pinyin: Guólì Gùgōng Bówùyuàn) is an antique museum in Shilin, Taipei, Republic of China. It is one of the national museums in the island nation of the Republic of China (Taiwan), and has a permanent collection of more than 696,000 pieces of ancient Chinese imperial artifacts and artworks, making it one of the largest in the world. The collection encompasses over 10,000 years of Chinese history from the Neolithic age to the late Qing Dynasty. Most of the collection are high quality pieces collected by China's...

Matt E. Эллен

oh. maybe I didn't see that one...

I went to 228 peace park

I think I went around the museum there

maybe I did go to the palace museum

I remember the name. like someone suggested it to me

Cerberus

Hmm.

Do you remember seeing the meat-shaped stone?

Matt E. Эллен

16:18

mmmm. looks like roast pork

I do not recall that stone

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

wow, it really looks like meat

Frankly I'm not that impressed by the meat-shaped stone

I make stone-shaped meat like, all the time

Matt E. Эллен

it's making my mouth water

A Beautiful Mind

Hi, I am feeling bad today again. =(

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

It would be better if it were on a plate

with some gravy-shaped stones and maybe some rice-shaped stones

Matt E. Эллен

@ABeautifulMind what's up?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 roast potato shaped stones. mmmmm yeah

A Beautiful Mind

16:25

@MattE.Эллен Nothing new. I have said everything in the email. I just need to break out of this current cycle.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 And stone-flavoured, too?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 How many gravy-shaped stones?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Enough to make it look good. Nobody presents a roast pork on a gold stand like that.

Cerberus

Not even to the Emperor?

Robusto

Stone Soup

Stone Soup is an old folk story in which hungry strangers trick the local people of a town to share their food: a good confidence trick that benefits the group from combining their individual resources. The story is usually told as a lesson in cooperation, especially amid scarcity. In varying traditions, the stone has been replaced with other common inedible objects, and therefore the fable is also known as button soup, wood soup, nail soup, and axe soup. It is Aarne-Thompson tale type 1548. == Story == Some travellers come to a village, carrying nothing more than an empty cooking pot. Upon their...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I feel it would just flop over.

Cerberus

16:34

It would.

Presumably, it would be cut on a different plate out of sight.

Then represented on a tiny standard, one piece at a time.

It is impossible to find when the meat-shaped stone was made.

All I get is that it was made under the Manchus.

Johan Larsson

17:03

dotnetfiddle.net

shrug

Robusto

It's a start.

Glen The Udderboat

I saw somebody write 'Bout time. Is that correct? Or should it be 'bout Time or 'bout time?

Cerberus

17:40

@GlenTheUdderboat I believe 'Bout time. is correct.

Unlike in Dutch.

Robusto

Not used as much as you might think, though. It takes so very little to include the unstressed syllable in about.

Mitch

18:19

It's about time someone stated the truth out loud...

'Bout "bout time"

Glen The Udderboat

@Cerberus Thanks. (As you know, Dutch is where I'm coming from.)

Cerberus

@GlenTheUdderboat Yup.

Mitch

@Cerberus so what's the point of that stone? If it were meat it would be great. Since it's not, it's just an ugly stone. Was it used to kill someone important and those are old blood stains?

Cerberus

@Mitch Well, before photography, the imitation of reality per se was among the most valued forms of art.

And it still is high on the list.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt I thought the stats were going to show that it's been snowing less lately.

@Cerberus So reproducing a rock was the art here? Why not just get a rock? I got plenty of them.

Pfft, artists and their 'craft'.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

18:27

@Mitch reproducing a cooked piece of pork.

Still I kinda feel it's a little like when people reproduce the image of Jesus in their toast

Cerberus

@Mitch Imitating something in a different material.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 mmm... ham sandwich

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch sacrelicious

Mitch

@Cerberus Like reproducing pebbles with stones?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 treifilicious.

Cerberus

@Mitch What are pebbled made of?

(By God, no less.)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

18:34

@Mitch Infidelicious

Mitch

@Cerberus pebbles are made of rock. Stones are unto themselves.

Cerberus

@Mitch If you say so.

Pebble.

Noah

@Cerberus

Would you mind if I asked you something related to learning English as a second langauge?

Cerberus

18:55

@Noah Sure!

But I will probably have little to tell you.

Robusto

@Cerberus Surely one of the three heads will have something to say on the matter.

Cerberus

@Robusto Or something to bark.

A Beautiful Mind

Happy Chinese New Year.

Robusto

What's so happy about it?

A Beautiful Mind

Nothing. I have nothing to be happy about.

Robusto

19:00

Well, you're looking at the world through shit-colored glasses then.

At some level you have to take responsibility for your own happiness.

A Beautiful Mind

Wait, I think I said the wrong thing, sorry.

Mitch

At some level you have to take responsibility for your own face" said some out of touch artist

@Cerberus if I'm a pebble then you're a ... thing.. or something else.

Robusto

Archaic Torso of Apollo
by Rainer Maria Rilke

We cannot know his legendary head
with eyes like ripening fruit. And yet his torso
is still suffused with brilliance from inside,
like a lamp, in which his gaze, now turned to low,

gleams in all its power. Otherwise
the curved breast could not dazzle you so, nor could
a smile run through the placid hips and thighs
to that dark center where procreation flared.

Otherwise this stone would seem defaced
beneath the translucent cascade of the shoulders

Noah

@Cerberus When did you start learning English? Like how old were you?

Cerberus

@Mitch Thank you, I know.

Mitch

19:05

Wow, Rainer. Dude it's just a statue.

Cerberus

@Noah Well, in the broadest sense, the first time I heard an English word, which is probably when I was very young.

Robusto

@Mitch You must change your life.

A Beautiful Mind

I must change my life.

Cerberus

In the narrowest sense, we had some insubstantial formal English classes in the final year of primary school.

Mitch

changing life... done

Robusto

19:06

Go back and change it again. You cheated that time.

Mitch

Now what? Not much has changed.

I am hungrier. Does that count?

Robusto

I dunno. I need better drugs, I think.

A Beautiful Mind

They say Happy Halloween. What is happy about it? Nothing.

Noah

@Cerberus When you were 14-15, did you speak English?

Mitch

I changed every atom in my body over the past few months. It was hard work and I had to eat every day to do it

Cerberus

19:08

@Noah You'll have to be more specific. "Speak English" is too vague.

Mitch

Nobody says happy Halloween. There's an Eli an on that

Noah

@Cerberus Could you speak properly?

Cerberus

What is properly?

No doubt I made tons of grammatical and idiomatic mistakes.

Noah

So does it mean when you were way over the age of puberty, you still didnt speak English as well as you do now?

Mitch

Well, moms at the door on Halloween night do. So I'm wrong. So sue me

Noah

19:12

@Cerberus And did you have to learn the language or was it more like picking it up as you were growing up?

Cerberus

@Noah Yes.

Mitch

So the Dalai Llama says "hey I'm no camel"

Robusto

Lies

Noah

@Cerberus Do you think you have native level fluency except for the accent now?

@Mitch He is not.

He is a human being and seems to be a bit smaller than a camel

Mitch

So after the Dalai lama gets his hotdog ("make me one with everything") he waits for his change. The vendor says "Change comes from within"

Noah

19:17

@Mitch LoL and then he gets angry and slaps the guy across the face and says that's for others only not for me.

Mitch

And as a result was enlightened.

Noah

@Mitch He grabs his burger and gobbles it up and sees that the world is bright because it's sunny.

Mitch

But can't be truly be enlightened caught within the wheel of life and dumpster behind the McD'a

Cerberus

@Noah In some respects above that level, in others below.

But I have to run now, literally.

Later!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

20:01

The Dalai Lama walks into a pizza shop...

whoa, there is text there

Noah

And orders a chicken supreme from Pizza hut

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

when did the video title start appearing next to the one-boxing?

yesterday, by Robusto

►

That video, posted yesterday, has no title.

Noah

"Do you want any extra toppings on your pizza" asks the server. "no, I want a simple pizza, simplcity is my motto," comes the reply.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I'm Gonna Kick His Ask

Robusto

20:28

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Philosophers have pondered this for years, grasshopper.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

clever of them, since it only started happening recently

infinitesimal

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 nice vid :-)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@infinitesimal I just wanted to see if the title would embed

infinitesimal

icic

Robusto

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's philosophers for you. Always one step ahead.

How about "a good listener"? — Robusto 29 secs ago

infinitesimal

20:39

Robusto

Aww, now I want to go off and do drugs. Because Joe Palooka is disappoint.

The Velvet Underground - Heroin

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

that guy has a big neck

Robusto

Or a small head.

infinitesimal

or both

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yeah the picture needs something else in it for scale

the haircut doesn't help either. makes him look like a trapezoid.

Robusto

20:41

Like a bathroom scale.

infinitesimal

or a ruler

Robusto

Queen Elizabeth II

infinitesimal

Henry the 8th

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Queen Elizabeth wearing a lizard costume

Robusto

The Henry line peaked with Henry IV.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

20:43

They should just name them all Henry

infinitesimal

tell that to his beheaded ex-wives

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

They're not listening

infinitesimal

true^

Hi pal @ABeautifulMind how are you?

Robusto

beheaded => eh, beaded => he be dead

infinitesimal

he be je beeiz?

A Beautiful Mind

20:46

@infinitesimal Not good.

infinitesimal

@ABeautifulMind Are they're any fireworks on new year's eve?

A Beautiful Mind

@infinitesimal 31 Dec? Yes.

infinitesimal

18 Feb

A Beautiful Mind

I am not sure. I don't think so.

infinitesimal

@Robusto heebie jeebies :-)

phrases.org.uk/meanings/heebie-jeebies.html

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

20:59

4

A Beautiful Mind

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Looks like a tiger and a donkey.

A Beautiful Mind

21:41

I am going to sleep. I hope I get my miracle soon.

infinitesimal

later pal

crl

not amused

Mitch

22:19

The cruelty of it all.

Andrew Leach

Red in tooth and claw (and rather red in the face, in the last pic).

Mitch

"I will have my revenge. I will... I will... sniff at my food... forever!"

Johan Larsson

candybox2.net

2

infinitesimal

22:45

abstrusegoose.com/93

Johan Larsson

:)

infinitesimal

:)

tchrist

23:07

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That isn't even five feet. The east coasters get so flibberty-tigity about their weather, like they are special. Well, they aren't; everybody has weather. And a lot of us get plenty of snow. And now they're giving names to their squalls, which is as stupid as naming a cloud. Really wish they'd get over themselves.

Cerberus

23:19

@tchrist We had 8 degrees and sunny.

Is that weather?

Mitch

"Human victory, even on the grandest scale, is not meaningfully different from a tribe of ants glorifying in the discovery of a dead rat. There would be no win, no loss, just the ongoing rearrangement of particles as they sleepwalk toward entropic purgatory"

@Cerberus No, that's not weather.

tchrist

@Cerberus What did you name it, Octavius?

It's 42 and sunny here.

But unremarkable and anonymous.

And tomorrow it shall be 60. Then we will get another 4 to 20 inches over the weekend. That too is unremarkable, and unremarkably nameless.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Savannah?

Cerberus

23:34

@Mitch This applies to anything.

@tchrist We call it...a nice winter day?

What little snow we had in the city melted very quickly.

An almost snowless winter.

tchrist

The caerulean skies are cheering. The foot is down to a hand in most places already.

Cerberus

We can walk and bike everywhere.

tchrist

And so can I and so can any man, but do you really get anywhere?

We've only had about five feet total so far. They owe us our other 50% or summer will hurt the farmers. Snowpack is only at 80%.

Summer agriculture is dependent on winter snows, not on summer rains.

The world is very different west of 100 degrees. All the rules change.

TRiG

@Mitch SMBC is a bit too nihilist for my taste.

tchrist

You shouldn't encourage peole to turn off the lights early.

Cerberus

23:49

@tchrist Yes, because we have no snow.

tchrist

I live in Colorado. Snow has never truly stopped me from getting anywhere I wished to go. It has only inconvenienced me from time to time. Although I did get trapped in Silverton once by a blizzard when they closed all roads leading out of there. So you wait.

user105491

Umm, I have a question - I don't really know how to phrase this, but here goes nothing. What would be the natural generalization of the following sequence of words: marked, scaled, ...

tchrist

Two data points do not a sequence make.

user105491

Yes, true. But I'm really open to anything.

tchrist

Need more data.

Give three more in your would-be series.

user105491

23:55

I'm just looking for anything whatsoever that generalizes the two words above.

tchrist

Nothing. They have nothing to do with each other.

Now if you added plucked and butchered, or stamped and delivered, then we could go somewhere with that. But not the same somewhere.

user105491

(These are the names of particular kinds of things called "simplicial sets" in math. I'm working with marked simplicial sets, which is generalized by scaled simplicial sets, which is generalized by something called "n-trivial" simplicial sets, but I'd really like a better name for these n-trivial simplicial sets.)

tchrist

See, that changed everything. We aren't scaling fish nor weighing things any longer.

user105491

Ah, I see what you mean.

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