English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Daniel

00:25

@Robusto Yo, I learned something new that day.

That a mod is a mod in all chatrooms. Sorry, will not be repeated.

I never noticed, for instance, that my name is blue

Wow, the background of my king is white. How ugly. I thought I made it the background of ELU.

That pixellated pink parchment...

Too much to learn.

(removed) indeed.

Jason Marsh

Guys, I'm planning to go through the following book:
http://www.amazon.com/Word-Power-Made-Norman-Lewis/dp/067174190X

I'm going to take IELTS to score overall band-score 8, would you recommend the book to me?

I've already bought the book because it wasn't too expensive at the book-store. I was solving first few pages of questions in the book and found that they are little bit challenging for me.

Daniel

00:44

I cannot; I have never heard of it.

I am a native speaker though, so I have not ever had to use an English manual such as the one you mention.

It looks like most of the chatters are not chatting right now.

Jason Marsh

I know.

Daniel

Seeing as you already own the book, why do you want a recommendation for it?

Jason Marsh

I wanted to hear some opinions from you guys. Plus, I was bored.

Daniel

I wouldn't be surprised if someone here could recommend a specific textbook.

Jason Marsh

btw

I was partially tempted to by the book because it had a section to improve words of insult.

Daniel

00:57

Ah. I suppose that's a thing to do when bored.

Jason Marsh

However, insults in the book don't sound strong enough to actually insult douche-bags on Dota 2.

They sound like some grandfathers of age 70s would use.

They are boring and not insulting at all.

This book is phucking pointless, isn't it?

No one in Dota would get enraged by me calling them "battle-ax"

Daniel

So far you are right. How old is it?

1949!

No wonder.

Cerberus

01:31

@JasonMarsh So what does it say about "skeptic"?

Jason Marsh

"There's no God - That's your position and you're not going to budge from it" (You are an atheist)

Omg, this book hurts my feeling =*(

skullpatrol

Books have a way of doing that...

...and so much more.

Cerberus

@JasonMarsh That is a strange characterisation of a skeptic...

Jason Marsh

Yeah

Jason Marsh

01:59

wow

they give you 30k if you have side-effect after getting Lasik in Korea.

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Oh, that AC. Yeah, I knew that one. Duh.

Cerberus

@tchrist I should have saved this one for April 1st, but try and find a font to properly display this text... web.archive.org/web/20080804223658/http://www.bartleby.com/61/…

Jason Marsh

02:19

Guys, would it be ridiculous to get braces in age 23?

Most people get it done when they are in highschool right? =D..

Mitch

02:33

@Cerberus and rule-like 'admonition'

skullpatrol

It's not ridiculous @JasonMarsh

Mitch

Even much older get it. Teeth can (slowly!) move later in life and so require straightening.

dude! did you just wake up?

Jasper Loy

@JasonMarsh It's not ridiculous to do anything at any age. Age is just a number.

Mitch

some things are more difficult. Like getting braces when you're 5 years old is a waste.

Jasper Loy

I felt pretty good on Tue. Now some things happened on Tue and I feel pretty hopeless again, sigh. It's hard to deal with these obsessions.

skullpatrol

02:44

Try to "isolate" the things that happen pal.

Put them to one side and look for the different factors that make them affect you.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@JasonMarsh I got them at 29.

Robusto

Plus the ones they have today are invisible, more or less. At least they don't look like you're eating a birdcage.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I had the regular-ass train tracks version.

Lisa, these braces are invisible, painless, and periodically release a burst of Calvin Klein's Obsession for Teeth.

skullpatrol

Who's your team to win the SB pal @cornbreadninja麵包忍者

Robusto

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That wasn't a come-on, btw.

Just a comment on braces, in general.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

02:56

@skullpatrol We don't even know who's playin' yet. That said, ima say it'll be Packs/Pats and take the Packs.

Robusto

Packers are going home empty from Seattle.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Yeah, probably.

skullpatrol

:O

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Pats/Seabirds, Pats to win.

Robusto

Pats 31, Seattle 27 in SB

skullpatrol

02:58

Come on guys. What wins championships?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Damn.

Robusto

How do you write 49 in Roman numerals? I'm drawing a blank.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

XIX

no

Mitch

@Robusto Depends on the birdcage.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

wtf

IL?

Robusto

02:58

XXXIX?

XXXXIX?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Naw, that's 39

Robusto

Second one.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Next year it's Superbowl L.

skullpatrol

L -1

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

is IL

Robusto

02:59

But this year is like a Christmas song: No L.

Mitch

XLIX

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Yes.

Mitch

I now stuff.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

XL = 40, IX = 9

Mitch

Ask me another

Robusto

03:00

@Mitch Stupid romans.

Mitch

@Robusto Try multiplicaton. shudders

Robusto

How the fuck did they ever rule the world with that numbering system?

I guess they killed anybody who made fun of them. And it.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Stealing shit from the Greeks.

skullpatrol

How did the Romans write zero? @Mitch

Mitch

Slaves. They beat the slaves to learn their tables. That's what it takes.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

03:01

L'oeuf.

Jul 31 '12 at 15:05, by Robusto

When you hit a French chicken in the stomach, does it say oeuf ?

Mitch

The Romans were excellent Engineers. Arches, domes, roads, bridges that last forever.

@skullpatrol They didn't. That's how good they were.

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Wow, you remembered that one.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto I love it.

Mitch

It's like the greeks and geometry. How did they do all that without variables? They just remembered stuff.

Robusto

@Mitch How did they do trig without zero?

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 We've already established that you are a woman of discernment and taste.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

03:03

@Robusto But not in the present continuous. That's reserved for McDonald's.

Fucking present continuous. Everyone abuses it now.

Mitch

@Robusto you mean like sines and cosines? They didn't, that's pretty modern (Arabs maybe?)

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I have a history of zero book somewhere.

skullpatrol

gopetition.com/petitions/…

Robusto

@Mitch I thought Pythagoras and Euclid were somehow responsible.

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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Hey.

Robusto

03:06

even your mother won't detect it so you're father won't know

Mitch

@Robusto Lot's of triangle proofs (side-angle-side etc), but no sine cosine tangent stuff, no 'prove sine 2 theta = 2 sin theta cos theta' or cos 30 = sqrt(3)/2

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

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Robusto

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Sindee. With an S.

I must go play Minecraft.

Robusto

Sinebad

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

03:09

After Moondog.

It's a sine of the times.

Robusto

Yeah, I'm kind of digging this Moondog.

I already played FarCry 4 tonight and got tired. I'm on my way to bed.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

That's a far cry from . . . nevermind.

Night!

Robusto

Night!

Still waiting for the bells to stop.

skullpatrol

Later!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Toodles!

Robusto

03:12

I'm out. Sleep well, me babies.

Mitch

@Robusto yes, there are things that are equivalent in Euclid, (law of sines, law of cosines) but I wouldn't call them trigonometry. geometry yes.

snore

skullpatrol

It's kind of interesting that today they teach trig before geometry

Jasper Loy

04:21

@Mitch Are you still around?

Charles Koppelman

05:38

@Cerberus So... admonition is different than admonishment?

And why wouldn't demolishment be a word?

Jasper Loy

09:08

Hello @MattЭллен.

Matt Эллен

Hi @JasperLoy

I posted on Programmers.se today. my first post there in a long time

I expected it will be downvoted :D

Jasper Loy

I will be meeting my prof next week to tell him about my problems and my plans and see what he says. I met one of them last year, and cancelled another three because I was too unwell to go out.

@MattЭллен It's good to get downvotes. Once you get them, you no longer fear them.

Matt Эллен

some small progress then. good :)

@JasperLoy true

@JasperLoy what do you think he will say?

Jasper Loy

@MattЭллен I don't know. From day one, I am already prepared for the worst. Like I said, I might never get well or go to grad school. But I will give myself another 6 more years to achieve that.

Matt Эллен

do you hope for the best?

Jasper Loy

09:14

Anyway, I am particularly worried that I might not be able to resolve certain OCD themes. These involve other people and I don't know how they will react when I try to resolve them. They may act in ways which prevent me from resolving them.

@MattЭллен Yes, I try to have some hope in my heart.

Matt Эллен

good. preparedness and hope are equally necessary

Jasper Loy

My life is really a tragedy. Things would be very different if my father died the day I was born.

Matt Эллен

09:29

@JasperLoy Each day is a day you're further away from the bad that happened

RegDwigнt

@Robusto yeah, I mean, that's like the definition of sinus. Duh.

Matt Эллен

09:46

@RegDwigнt I see you are a commie, with your sin US stance.

RegDwigнt

09:57

That is not even tangentially related here.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy there will always be some things in life that you cannot change; who your father is and what he did to you is certainly one of them.

Be strong my friend.

Drag yourself up...one step at a time :-)

skullpatrol

10:25

chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/95?m=19451838#19451838 @JasperLoy

Jasper Loy

11:03

@skullpatrol Thank you.

skullpatrol

You are very welcome @JasperLoy

Remember @JasperLoy we learn from our mistakes as well as our successes.

skullpatrol

11:31

If you drag yourself up three steps and fall down two, you are still one step ahead of where you started from. Plus you can learn what to do differently next time. @JasperLoy defeat is not falling down. Defeat is not trying to get back up.

skullpatrol

11:55

@JasperLoy

Cerberus

12:36

@Robusto XLIX

It is best to think of Roman numerals thus.

skullpatrol

As numerals created by Romans? :D

Cerberus

1=I
4=IV
5=V
9=IX
10=X
40=XL
50=L
90=XC
100=C
etc.

Matt Эллен

CMXCXLIXIV

skullpatrol

I find it interesting that they were unable to understand the concept of zero.

Matt Эллен

NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY AND FOURTY NINE FIVE

Cerberus

12:41

You must use those numbers, and in that order, until you get the number you need. If you need any of the other numbers, so anything starting with 2/3/6/7/8, you use multiples of the highest number possible that starts with 1. So the basic building blocks are the numbers I gave above; you have to use addition or multiplication based on those: no subtraction.

@MattЭллен Umm surely this was in jest, Mister.

Matt Эллен

me? jest? mister?

skullpatrol

Watch your mouth mister :P

Matt Эллен

I can't see it from here

unless I pucker up extremely

skullpatrol

Not you pal

&

not me

Matt Эллен

XC + LIV + II = CXLVI

skullpatrol

12:45

Show me the Roman numeral for one half.

I/II

-I/V = -1/5

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Correct!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus woo!

Cerberus

Now it's work-time.

skullpatrol

What was 500 again?

Cerberus

Fare ye well.

D.

skullpatrol

12:50

Thanks pal

See you later

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus cu

bit of a chuckle for folks with 10k+

tchrist

13:16

@Cerberus The idiofuxen have used images not code points.

Andrew Leach

13:29

@MattЭллен Hyperbole.

Matt Эллен

@AndrewLeach is the adjective "hyperbolic"?

Andrew Leach

Yup.

Matt Эллен

Cool. I wasn't sure if that was only used for the graphs

Jasper Loy

@Cerberus Why are you teaching us how to write Roman numerals? We all know already!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

14:04

A simple video explaining why laws requiring back-doors in technology can't prevent people from communicating privately

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RegDwigнt

Yay Grand Budapest Hotel. Nine Oscar nominations.

Apparently all it takes for one of the finest movies ever crafted to actually get nominated, is a year completely devoid of any other movies.

Matt Эллен

I heard good things about The Theory of Everything

I haint whatched it, tho

RegDwigнt

I heard good things about Wild. But haven't watched either.

Matt Эллен

I enjoyed the Immitation Game, but I don't think it's oscar worthy

RegDwigнt

Anyway, the point is they really were in deep trouble this year trying to find enough nominees.

Matt Эллен

14:11

yes

RegDwigнt

Both film- and actor-wise.

And Grand Budapest Hotel is like from February last year or something.

They literally dug up something that could have competed last year.

Anyway. At this point it is long overdue for Wes Anderson to be decorated head to toe.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that is so fricking cumbersome.

Not to mention so not new.

That video is completely devoid of any information. Fascinating.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt Yes, not new. But that's the point. It's an old idea and it's unbreakable.

@RegDwigнt Sometimes the government needs to be reminded of what people already know.

Not to mention regular people who know nothing about encryption.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I am not even sure about that. If you can be stupid enough to take your ID to a shootout, then you can be stupid enough to not burn a piece of paper. Or to make over 9000 typos in a three-word message rendering it unreadable to anyone.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So while the UK's PM is trying to make a law requiring back doors in all encryption, that demonstrably does absolutely nothing to help prevent, say, criminals from communicating securely.

without even computers

@RegDwigнt Nah, typos are just typos.

each character is decrypted individually, so a typo doesn't make the rest of the message garbage.

RegDwigнt

Right okay, with this system you're right of course.

Lulz @ "To save time, here's one I already transcribed".

That is the opposite of saving time, you encryption god. You had to transcribe it twice now.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

14:18

So when lawmakers try to "improve security" by weakening encryption, all they really do is reduce security, because it's been trivial for decades for people to communicate securely.

@RegDwigнt yeah "I don't know how to edit a video, so I'm going to make copies of my OTP which is actually a terrible thing to do"

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 so that brings me right to my main question. Who is the target audience of this video?

Matt Эллен

Cameron

RegDwigнt

Lawmakers won't give a shit. For people who know about encryption, it will be pointless blather. For people who know nothing about encryption, it will be well over their head.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt The UK public, and the UK gov't. because the govt is trying to push through a law requiring back doors in all encryption.

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен yes. He will watch it, and he will proceed to change his ways. The only thing holding him back so far was the lack of this video.

Matt Эллен

14:20

@RegDwigнt just because someone won't watch something doens't make him not the target

RegDwigнt

Okay okay okay.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt All it takes is for the message to get out "What you're asking for is stupid AND impossible", and then if enough people repeat it, he might understand that what he's asking for is not only stupid, but impossible.

RegDwigнt

I thought the target was Teresa. Now I'm confused. I'll just shoot Cameron as well. Thanks at Matt Ellen from London for teaching me.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So Matt, your job as a Brit is to spread the word, get the papers to take up the story.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt You are welcome Elton John from Hollywood

RegDwigнt

14:22

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah. Like the million people that went to the streets of London to tell Blair to bugger off from Iraq. Totally worked.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think it's already in the Guardian (the idea that it's stupid, any way)

RegDwigнt

You see, "enough" is a weasel word.

You only know how much is enough in hindsight.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

how would a UK paper write the headline? "CAMERON ENCRYPTION BACK DOOR LAW STUPID AND IMPOSSIBLE"

nah, too clear

needs more noun piles

RegDwigнt

Too long. Needs three two-letter words.

Or two three-letter words.

Like, "THE SUN". Yeah, that will sell.

Matt Эллен

theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/13/…

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

14:24

"PM TECH HOLE PLAN STUPID, IMPOSSIBLE"

Matt Эллен

Old man thumbs nose at PM, you won't believe the result

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

13 reasons the PM's plan won't work. #9 shocked even the NSA

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 too much appeal to reason. This is press, not a university.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен Reasons 1-8 and 10-13 are "It's stupid" and #9 is "It's impossible"

RegDwigнt

14:26

You put a giant photo of Cameron's on the front page and write "THIS FUCKER RULES US". Much better already. Appeal to deep instincts.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 lol

RegDwigнt

Anyway, call be back in ten years to tell just how well this turned out.

Matt Эллен

sets date in Google calendar

RegDwigнt

Google calendar has a backdoor.

Matt Эллен

it has a front door, too. In fact I'm not sure it even has walls

RegDwigнt

14:29

You know, when Mr Shiny said "a really simple video explaining why laws can't prevent people from communicating privately", I was expecting to see two people just talking in person with no frigging app in-between.

Alas, what ever happened to that.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt cctv on every corner. it's no longer private!

oh, you don't live in the UK. it's fine for you

RegDwigнt

Yup.

I can talk to anyone anywhere with no one else ever getting wind of it.

And you wouldn't know if I'm saying that holding an AK in one hand and a Qu'ran in the other.

Mitch

@MattЭллен Not much of an actual theory of everything though. I still don't know how to get my landlord to stop bugging me for rent. It's a conundrum.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch pay the rent

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

gotta run

Matt Эллен

14:38

CU

Mitch

@MattЭллен I don't get it. Are you saying... no that makes no sense.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch you could move out. then that landlord will stop bugging you for rent

@RegDwigнt what if you were talking to me?

would I know then?

Mitch

@MattЭллен Nice. That'll work. I'll need a reference from him though for the next landlord. Next problem for the theory of everything...finding current disgruntled landlords phone number.

I don't think you can hold the PM to intelligence about technical things.

Matt Эллен

> I don't think you can hold the PM to intelligence

very true

he's an attention seeking idiot

Mitch

"even a child could do it" - You know why only children can fix the time on the video player? because they have all t time in the world to mess around with the machine.

@MattЭллен He has 'social' intelligence and luck in getting people to vote for him.

Matt Эллен

14:48

@Mitch he had luck who his parents were. he's just part of the old boy's network. People just vote for the party they vote for last time.

Mitch

Or in the US, for people with the same last name.

Matt Эллен

:D

Mitch

"My parents voted for someone named Bush/Clinton, goddammit, I demand the right to do that too!"

Matt Эллен

I have zero confidence in UK politicians. I have little experience with politicians of other countries

@Mitch I should change my name to Matt Obama and run for president

Mitch

There was some Kurt Vonnegut story about how the president was a rotating 2 year random assignment of the population so that it wouldn't be getting people who actually wanted it.

Matt Эллен

14:51

:-D that would be an interesting way to do it

Mitch

@MattЭллен I'd vote for that.

EFrog

Is there a SE for creative writing? Questions like, "I have a character who [has these qualities]. What are some possible reasons/backstories?"

Mitch

writing.SE?

Matt Эллен

@EFrog Writers

Mitch

jinx!!

I was first!!

but not as useful!

Matt Эллен

14:52

@EFrog except that might not work there.

seems quite open ended

Mitch

Even on topic questions can be off topic

Matt Эллен

also, if you want to ask about building worlds there's Worldbuilding

EFrog

Right. I was just wondering. I only found SE a couple weeks ago, so I wasn't sure. I'll take a look at that one though. Thanks.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch yeah. SE is a crazy place

EFrog

Yes, I'm slowly falling in love with Worldbuilding lol.

Mitch

14:53

I see questions there all the time but I don't get it. Is it world building like for the real world, or is it for some game like minecraft?

Matt Эллен

@EFrog ah! :D I hear a lot of people feel the same

@Mitch like for story telling, I think

Mitch

It's a bit speculative.

Matt Эллен

like Cory Doctorow?

Mitch

@MattЭллен So basically asking what would be plausible given some bizarrely implausible premise like 'magic exists' or 'pi = 3' or 'If only that chick really liked me'

EFrog

Yeah it seems to be for things like creative writing, game design, roleplaying. What Mitch said.

Matt Эллен

14:56

@Mitch I'm not sure. something like that. I think @EFrog actually goes there

Mitch

I think it's al about confidence...make up your rules and stick with them. Or change them if it doesn't suit the story. but be confident. "Faster-than-light speed is totally impossible. So effing what! Go with it!"

For example, the recent Presdestination

Matt Эллен

I wrote a time travel book once

I used different civil servants though

well, I wrote the first draft of it

EFrog

Yeah I've posted a few times. It's largely speculative. Things like, "In a world where people can switch freely between physical gender, what would happen to sexuality, gender identity, etc?" I assume it's about some story the OP is writing, looking for different possible plot points and trying to remain "believable".

pourjour

Hi can someone please explain to me this

"rife with enthusiasm"

Matt Эллен

what don't you understand?

rife with, enthusiasm

pourjour

15:03

Rife with

Matt Эллен

that link gives you the meaning of "rife with"

EFrog

It's definition 1.1

pourjour

I'm using a phone, I can't click the link

EFrog

(rife with) Full of:
the streets were rife with rumour and fear

To be "rife with enthusiasm" means that the person is full of excitement.

pourjour

Thank you

RegDwigнt

15:12

@MattЭллен yeah see, and just how often does that happen? QED.

Matt Эллен

I may never know if you are wearing a burka while teaching school children!

RegDwigнt

Did you know I held an AK and a Qur'an every time I said "QED" in this chat?

Matt Эллен

I did not

RegDwigнt

Well. QED.

Matt Эллен

I still don't! ahhhhhhhhhhh

RegDwigнt

15:15

I could never teach school children. School children are too stupid. Maybe if they learned shit first, I could teach them.

terdon

@RegDwigнt How can you type with your hands full?

RegDwigнt

I am very, very good. That is how.

EFrog

Nosetyping is a thing. They don't say you "peck" at your keyboard for nothing.

RegDwigнt

Like, you not seen a one-man orchestra or what? Kids these days.

AKs are pointy. You can totally type with them.

Matt Эллен

and they have a butt, for when you need them to be the punchline

Mitch

15:24

@EFrog The Left Hand of Darkness

EFrog

Re: Worldbuilding?

Mitch

@RegDwigнt School children know all about shit. That's the one thing they do know.

@RegDwigнt He don't know shit.

@MattЭллен "... then the bartender said AK-47 butt." hilarity and mirth ensue.

Matt Эллен

it always does

RegDwigнt

Mirth? Is that what Frodo's shirt was made of?

Matt Эллен

Mirth from Rhyl

RegDwigнt

15:31

You rhylly had to go there?

Matt Эллен

I rilly did

RegDwigнt

That can only mean won thing: the terrists have one.

Matt Эллен

luckily I have one, two

RegDwigнt

I am threeled to hear that.

Matt Эллен

lol

Mitch

15:32

Mirthrandir = Gandlaugh

Matt Эллен

That one's a bit fourced

RegDwigнt

G and laugh? Is that something about women's anatomy?

Mitch

Nope, that's Glandaugh

RegDwigнt

I think you're reading off a bottle of Irish Whiskey.

KitFox

Sounds good to me.

crl

17:26

I've talked to people for a job offer (secludit), the job will deal with Python code, and I'm not an expert in Python, although I find it's a nice language

The part of job I'll start with is a sort of dropbox/google drive, in Python, to sync files in a cloud storage

So I'm a bit troubled, waiting for their reply also, if they say yes, should I accept or not

Mainly I like Python, but there are few things I dislike, like the "**" operator for powers, the j variable for the complex number instead of i, etc...

Anyway I started an online course on Python since weeks france-universite-numerique-mooc.fr/courses/inria/41001/…, I'll be less a noob

crl

17:43

Other than that they seem to use Ruby :( another language I'm not familiar at all

Robusto

18:00

@Barmar: I would if they involved an analysis based on Latin grammar. Also, the ones you mention are way more frequently encountered than datum non concessum. — Robusto 51 secs ago

Johan Larsson

19:47

Cerberus

20:15

Good or bad?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Good. What?

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus Nice with lots of snow.

The level of stuck does not show in the pic. The machine is ~70cm longer than the seat.

Cerberus

Ah, so it was stuck?

That's what I meant by "stuck".

Johan Larsson

temporarily stuck

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@JohanLarsson Oh dear.

Johan Larsson

20:26

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Someone must have thought about it right?

lajkat.se/…

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@JohanLarsson Probably :(

Cerberus

20:48

@JohanLarsson Hilarious.

@JohanLarsson Aaaand again.

@JohanLarsson Ah okay, phew.

Mitch

21:01

No, you're right. There are no cultural contexts, just rules followed well or not. — Mitch 20 secs ago

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