English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

George Pompidou

00:01

then I do not understand lack of time as a reason. perhaps apathy? I myself don't much care for sexual things. I'd rather play with my gadgets or study Beethoven.

there's what I have so far. does it look too childish?

I meant it to be a little childish.

the hippo is singing christmas songs!

Jasper Loy

I think it looks lovely. Margaret will like it.

George Pompidou

(that's me)

the elephant opens up. and I will put a happy message in there.

I do not know what message yet.

@JasperLoy ^.^ thanks

now I need to craft a new baggy for this necklace because I destroyed the one it came in by accident

with sticky fingers…

Cerberus

00:23

Hey, now it's orange!

Cute.

@GeorgePompidou What does your girlfriend say about that?

George Pompidou

I think it's the camera. this time I took it with my iPhone camera rather than the one on my computer

Cerberus

Most odd.

George Pompidou

I still do things with her. but it's mostly for her, rather than for me.

Cerberus

Hmm.

Do you look at other women?

Or men?

George Pompidou

I'm writing my message with my new Lamy 2000

such a pleasure to write with.

Cerberus

00:26

Everyone had Lamy pens in primary school!

George Pompidou

what do you mean by look at

Cerberus

I think I had a Parker.

George Pompidou

I had a few Parkers myself.

Cerberus

Or maybe a Pelikan?

George Pompidou

Pelikans are really nice too!

Cerberus

00:26

Look at with desire.

George Pompidou

oh. haha, not really. usually my friends are like "oh did you see that girl she's so hot" and I'm like "what girl?"

Cerberus

And do you look at guys?

George Pompidou

I did look at girls with desire before I had my girlfriend. I am, after all, not devoid of mammal instinct.

Cerberus

But if you don't look at those any more, nor at your girlfriend...

George Pompidou

just now I feel like that area is satisfied and I do not feel the need to satisfy it more.

I do look at her with desire. I think she is very attractive.

Cerberus

00:28

But you don't want to do things with her?

George Pompidou

all I meant to say is that I think I appreciate sexual interaction less than most.

Cerberus

That is possible.

How about on your own?

George Pompidou

haha, almost not at all.

Cerberus

I see.

George Pompidou

00:47

hooom!

(that's what hippos say)

George Pompidou

00:59

@Cerberus do you appreciate pens at all? or just in primary school?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

02:00

@Cerberus I think you misunderstand how Play Services work. It's just shared library code that apps can use. The main difference between Play Services and every other app is that Play Services is upgraded out of band and not through the Play Store.

George Pompidou

02:58

I wish I had a pirate hat.

how do you earn a gold badge?

what is a gold badge

there are badges on this site?

how did I get this silver badge?

viele Fragen, nicht so viele Leute

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@GeorgePompidou english.stackexchange.com/help/badges

George Pompidou

my god, those are all quite difficult.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The easiest one is to get 100 upvotes on an answer, especially for really popular questions.

George Pompidou

the only one that seems plausible is to visit the site 100 days in a row, I could easily write a script to do that

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

that will take 100 days

not likely to be completed in time for the pirate hat

George Pompidou

03:09

that is a long time and hats will be gone.

I don't know how to write an answer that 100 people will like

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

put a picture in it

George Pompidou

is there any way to see how many times I've done certain things on the site?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

your closest one is the abortion/capital punishement one. Find a suitable pic for that

your user page has stats: english.stackexchange.com/users/85526/george-pompidou

George Pompidou

huh. so you think an old answer can get future attention?

that one's from a long time ago

oh ^.^ 11 helpful flags.

I could go for that one

only 489 more

so you're saying if I put a picture of an abortion and another of capital punishment in my answer people will go to it and upvote more?

whimpers I just want a pirate hat…

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@GeorgePompidou yeah that was a joke

but yes, in general, to get the gold hat, you need a gold candidate from before the hat dash

though I got one on meta.se

my one and only post there

George Pompidou

03:14

oh… quickly closes windows with gruesome abortion pictures

yeah I knew you were joking.

I mean duh.

I made a post on the elu meta that kitfox said was a good post!

I was very happy. it did not get many upvotes I think, but I don't think that's as important as shiny people saying it's a good post!

well, I suppose now it's important. because I want this pirate hat.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

you'll have better luck with one of your other answers.

or try and post a really popular answer to a question you think will get widely distributed, and fast. example: today's question from tchrist about handeggs; I rep-capped on that one, which is rare for me.

this question is probably unanswerable, and yet broadly applicable to many SE users, so a really good neologism might get tons of votes

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

03:37

My red baron candidate

George Pompidou

your hand arrow points to his arm.

took me a few seconds to catch that horrendous error, as in Romanian hand and arm are the same word and this is natural to me.

George Pompidou

05:04

why do some helicopters have wheels?

surely they cannot scoot around on the ground.

Schwern

06:14

Helicopters can taxi on the ground, and they can do a rolling take off to save fuel or carry a greater load. It's also for convenience to push it into and our of a hanger.

George Pompidou

07:00

do they have drive in the wheels at all? or propellers that face forward?

George Pompidou

07:31

how does stack exchange make money?

Hugo

08:15

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Arg, that was going to be my baron candidate, I'd drafted an answer and everything but was out of votes yesterday!

have some upvotes :)

Matt Эллен

08:50

Please abide by the be nice policy. Do not use bigotted, belittling, or otherwise insulting language. If you are being picked on do not fight fire with fire and do not threaten violence. However, if you are being picked on please do tell the offender that they are upsetting you and tell them why. If you do not feel that you can do that, please ask a moderator to step in, flagging messages where necessary. This is a safe space.

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George Pompidou

interesting.

not really a place, though, is it? more of a website.

my house is a safe place. thanks to my cool security system.

beep beep

boop

Hugo

09:45

My red baron candidate! Please upvote answer to +5 and question to +3!

RegDwigнt

10:56

@Robusto huhuh, you said highfellatio.

Jez

hey

cryptic christmas card for you all

Ste

Anybody on here got an android device who can try something for me please?

RegDwigнt

I don't know who an droid is.

And I don't get the christmas card.

@RegDwigнt No sane person would dispute the word of a Lego hippopotamus. Also, you may well have the best hat/avatar combination on the whole of Stack Exchange. That. Is. Awesome. — David Richerby 6 mins ago

We should put that up as our welcome message. Not this "site for serious etymologists" nonsense.

Ste

11:11

I agree

Cerberus

@Ste What do you need?

Ste

I need someone to flag one of my comments. There is a bug which I think will award me a hat.

Can you flag this using the STack exchange app please?

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Q: What is the etymology of the pizza hat?

I have seen the terms but I don't know from where they originate.

Flag one of my comments if you can.

Cerberus

I'll try...

Ste

Thanks.

Jez

@RegDwigнt silent night

though I don't get the relevance of the F10 and F1 keys

Robusto

11:16

@RegDwigнt I said no such thing. You blew it.

@Jez I read it as "mute bright" . . .

Ste

I had Volume Shine

Jez

lol

RegDwigнt

@Robusto I'm blew-dah-bah-dee-dah-bah-dye.

Robusto

You should get that looked at.

RegDwigнt

Which is why I'm showing it to you.

That's not the problem, the problem's entirely with you not looking. Or not looking hard enough.

Get it? Hard. Pun intended. Watch my pun. I'm witty!

Cerberus

11:28

@Ste Done.

I had to install the application first.

RegDwigнt

No no no. First you had to stall the application. Only second could you install it.

Cerberus

I stalled it as long as I could.

RegDwigнt

You are my personal hero.

Cerberus

Then I had to collect my innings.

RegDwigнt

Holiday innings, hopefully.

@Ste who you call a volume schwein?

Ste

11:30

@Cerberus - Thanks. Hopefully I will be hatted.

Cerberus

How does it work?

RegDwigнt

He sits there, then gets hatted.

Pretty sure that's the order.

Ste

I saw this and thought I'd try:

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Q: Received Bugdroid hat without using app

I got the Bugdroid hat last night on CodeGolf.SE. The thing is, I never used (or even downloaded) the Android app. Did this happen to anyone else, or should I be worried that my account got hacked (in which case, why would anyone use the app then)? As far as I can tell, there wasn't any activity...

bug status-completed android-app winterbash-2014

Cerberus

I see.

Good luck...

Let's hope he hasn't already fixed it.

Ste

He probably has...

skullpatrol

11:34

:O I have been marked as a "threat to society" -—–—-------------------------->> pinned on the star board like Christ on the cross

Cerberus

You're the coolest!

Where have you been marked thus? I don't see it.

skullpatrol

"pinned" at the top

Cerberus

@GeorgePompidou I do appreciate pens! However, unfortunately I only use ballpoints and dip pens, nowadays.

Dip pen

A dip pen or nib pen usually consists of a metal nib with capillary channels like those of fountain pen nibs, mounted on a handle or holder, often made of wood. Other materials can be used for the holder, including bone, metal and plastic, while some pens are made entirely of glass. Generally speaking, dip pens have no ink reservoir; therefore the user has to recharge the ink from an ink bowl or bottle in order to continue drawing or writing. (However, there are simple, tiny tubular reservoirs that illustrators sometimes clip onto dip pens; these allow drawing for several minutes without recharging...

skullpatrol

3 hours ago, by Matt Эллен

Please abide by the be nice policy. Do not use bigotted, belittling, or otherwise insulting language. If you are being picked on do not fight fire with fire and do not threaten violence. However, if you are being picked on please do tell the offender that they are upsetting you and tell them why. If you do not feel that you can do that, please ask a moderator to step in, flagging messages where necessary. This is a safe space.

Cerberus

I see no "threat to society"?

skullpatrol

11:40

do not threaten violence

RegDwigнt

I threaten violins a lot. Problem?

skullpatrol

:(

Cerberus

Not quite the same thing as a threat to society, but OK.

RegDwigнt

Don't tell me what to abide by, or else this violin gets it!!!

Cerberus

NOOOOO please don't ~~abuse~~ play the violin for us!

Anything!

skullpatrol

11:43

is there a machine gun in your violin case?

RegDwigнt

Take it up with @Matt.

Jez

heh

you know, i can't find any laptop keyboards where volume control is F1 and brightness is F10

that cryptic christmas card is just crap

RegDwigнt

They had to do that for alliteration purposes.

Jez

??

Cerberus

Nor your "pianola"...

►

RegDwigнt

11:44

@skullpatrol well there's a machine gun somewhere.

Cerberus

@Jez Use Autohotkey and you can do that on any keyboard.

RegDwigнt

Someone else please explain to Jez his own sentence.

Jez

@Cerberus yeah, i think the idea was that it was meant to represent a "typical" laptop keyboard

skullpatrol

Cerberus

Haha.

skullpatrol

11:53

omg this^ is for real

Cerberus

Sweet baby Jesus.

RegDwigнt

That is so not a violin case. What the hell is with the proportions.

skullpatrol

not drawn to scale

RegDwigнt

Not drawn to anything.

skullpatrol

just like geometry questions

RegDwigнt

11:57

I will never just like geometry questions.

skullpatrol

a lot of people don't like geometry, so now they teach algebra first

after arithmetic of course

Jasper Loy

All most people need in life is arithmetic.

skullpatrol

true

"most people"

Jasper Loy

Maybe the world should change such that people go to college at 16 and not 18.

I studied so many subjects in school and now I feel it is a waste of time.

I did not enjoy studying history, literature, geography.

skullpatrol

they can go to college at 16 in the US and the UK

Jasper Loy

12:01

I should have taken less subjects and spent more time playing or working instead.

In middle school, no proofs were taught in my math classes.

In high school, many proofs taught were wrong.

In college, there were not enough proofs.

Math here sucks at all levels. QED.

But of course, many people think the math here is very good.

Again, using stupid statistics that mean nothing to me.

Statistics is one big deception in the world. The media is another.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy have you seen this?

Jasper Loy

@skullpatrol Yes, I think I have.

skullpatrol

It's sorta like Kumon is to Japan

Mitch

Or Russian math in the US.

skullpatrol

yep

same idea

Mitch

12:11

@JasperLoy There is a trend in the US to not do proofs in high school

RegDwigнt

Certainly rushing math is not a good idea.

Least of all in the US.

skullpatrol

Euclid would not be impressed.

Jasper Loy

@Mitch I think that's better than doing wrong proofs.

Mitch

I think you're exaggerating. all teachers make mistakes.

Jasper Loy

Well, sometimes, I exaggerate a little, yes.

Mitch

12:14

systematic mistakes are instead jut simplified proofs that will be fixed later by learning more details

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy what do you mean by "wrong proofs"?

Mitch

what kind of wrong proofs are you getting in high school?

RegDwigнt

"Do not end a sentence in a preposition. QED."

Jasper Loy

For example, that dx/dy is the inverse of dy/dx. Yes, they are wrong because of the missing details, but in some cases, the details are so much or so important that it's better not to give the proof at all.

skullpatrol

ok, but we need the result

and a sketch of its limitations

Jasper Loy

12:18

The result can often be stated without the proof. Also, very often results can be stated more correctly than they actually are.

Mitch

That's the case everywhere

Jasper Loy

Like when talking about dy/dx=0 for extremum, at least a mention should be made of boundary points.

Mitch

oversimplification

I mean the teachers were oversimplifying.

which is what they do at an introductory level.

RegDwigнt

Poor @Matt's so hungry he's eating an iPhone. @Cerberus won't be a muse.

Jasper Loy

Yes, over is the problem. But I think many of them are not even aware that they are doing so.

@GeorgePompidou You seem to have become a nice person, so I shall treat you as a friend from now. =)

@skullpatrol There's no need to remove everything you say.

Mitch

12:22

Yeah, I don't get that. especially when there's nothing controversial at all.

Jasper Loy

Maybe he felt it does not apply. But I was just speaking in general.

Also, specific things like how 1 / tan x is not the same as cos x / sin x, lol.

Mitch

what? It's not?

Jasper Loy

High school teachers should be more careful of where things are 0 or undefined.

Mitch

In high school, they have to teach at all levels at once, both for future mathematicians, and for those at the whole other end of the spectrum.

Jasper Loy

And also things like not call undefined infinity.

@Mitch Yes, but this is not rocket science.

Mitch

12:27

Yes, they shouldn't be so glib.

gotta go, back later.

Hugo

3 hours ago, by Hugo

My red baron candidate! Please upvote answer to +5 and question to +3!

Jasper Loy

Hello @Caleb nice new picture!

Matt Эллен

12:55

@RegDwigнt the gorilla glass is proving difficult to ingest

Robusto

@MattЭллен They don't use Gorilla Glass. You must have picked up an Android phone by mistake.

Matt Эллен

oh noes!

that is why there is a sweet treat at the centre

Robusto

Your very own version of candy crush.

Matt Эллен

lol

Jez

13:26

@MattЭллен why no hat?

skullpatrol

in Mathematics, 18 hours ago, by Behaviour

Just stopping by to say this user is awesome. Great to have folks like this around.

:P

Matt Эллен

@Jez I'm wearing the selfie hat, amn't I?

Jez

heh

oh right

Robusto

@MattЭллен It gives you rather a [s]elfin look.

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Q: Grmmatical question

I've 2 questions(!). Could you please tell me which one of sentences below is (are) correct? 1) They all do a very good job when it comes to managing the articles in their sections. 2) I'm sure he will make sure the paper makes it through the system in a timely manner. Regarding th...

meaning verbs

I can't imagine bestirring myself to answer a question like this.

I just can't.

Matt Эллен

it's not my phone, I must have heaten the rest of whoever is holding it

skullpatrol

13:34

Some people do a selfie using a mirror, is that a selfie within a selfie ie selfie(selfie)?

Robusto

Having never done a selfie, I can't tell you.

skullpatrol

thanks for responding

Robusto

Meet the new Comic Sans

3

skullpatrol

how sweet^^

Jez

@skullpatrol if she's taking a selfie, why can we see her camera?

skullpatrol

13:39

she had to be a blonde

@Jez see the forest, not the trees :-)

@Robusto I guess it is better than the title "Splling Question"

Robusto

We need a new close reason: "I can't believe you asked this shit."

skullpatrol

we call it a "trivial question" in the math room

Robusto

Worthy questions in the math room are called "quadrivial"?

skullpatrol

:D

Robusto

Maybe that is where they got "quadrilateral"?

skullpatrol

13:53

The origin of the word "quadrilateral" is the two Latin words quadri, a variant of four, and latus, meaning "side".

Robusto

Thank you for explaining my joke to me.

skullpatrol

I know, I'm a numb skull.

Mitch

@Hugo What? Again? This is a question from a year ago!! But of course I upvoted Q and A.

Hugo

@Mitch Thanks! It shouldn't matter how old the question is.

4 hours ago, by Hugo

My red baron candidate! Please upvote answer to +5 and question to +3!

just one more of each needed!

thanks! now I wait

Mitch

also only one vote needed here...

11 hours ago, by Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

My red baron candidate

Hugo

14:09

^ for the Q ^

thanks, red hatted!

Mitch

@Jez It was all a fabrication. The got the guy to go up on the bridge, they got the woman to stand there taking a selfie, and the newspaper camera crew takes a picture of her with her phone and backdrop the guy on the bridge.

Either that or she happened to be taking a selfie of herself with one phone and another phone taking a selfie of herself taking a selfie (the picture on the newspaper front page).

If I were being spontaneous, that's how I would plan it out.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch I came here to say that but you beat me to it!

Mitch

All for the sake of progress

Hugo

+1 for this question please english.stackexchange.com/q/208657/9001

Jez

14:24

AHHHHHH i just figured out that cryptic Christmas card

It's based on a goddamn Macbook keyboard.

Robusto

Well, duh. It's still stupid, though.

Jez

F1 is the brightness key, F10 is volume

and i'm told that if you turn volume and brightness off, those keys stop being lit up

so the joke only works if you know the specifics of a Macbook, which i don't

freaking Mac hipsters

Matt Эллен

14:42

it wouldn't be cryptic if everyone could get it

KitFox

It would be crypto then.

Nobody likes crypto.

But everyone could get it.

continues to flagellate deceased equine

Jez

how's it going kit

KitFox

It goes.

Lots of end-of-year stuff.

Yourself?

Jez

so-so

skullpatrol

Are you going to bring back Kit Sox?

KitFox

14:51

Probably not.

skullpatrol

Btw Hi :-)

KitFox

Hello.

I really wish I understood how MVC looks right now.

Mitch

@skullpatrol Kit Sox? The Kr. Seuss character?

Jez

how MVC looks?

KitFox

I'm looking at the codebase, trying to locate a path name.

Jez

14:53

i wish i were using MVC. we have a ton of legacy classic ASP stuff here :-(

KitFox

With webforms, I'd have an idea where to start.

skullpatrol

@Mitch The chat bot

Jez

is it Microsoft ASP.NET MVC?

Mitch

Ohhhhh.

KitFox

@Jez Yes.

Jez

14:55

i'd look in global.asax.cs and see if it calls RegisterAllAreas and RegisterRoutes

there's also a plugin whose name i can't remember that enumerates all the routes

KitFox

There isn't anything there. I looked already.

I'm searching the config, but there's many of these.

skullpatrol

@Mitch The bot was handy for definitions, wikipedia links, etc.

Jez

there are several route visualization tools

surprised they havent built one into visual studio yet, actually

skullpatrol

I sort of abused the privilege of using the bot sometimes.

And there was a hangman room too

KitFox

What does "I pass the path to a service on [ambiguous name]" mean?

Matt Эллен

14:59

@skullpatrol I think a similar bot is in the SO sandbox (as opposed to the SE sandbox)

Jez

o.O

what context?

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