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17:00
@aediaλ Only on the pike though, right?
@KitΘδς I think it's a state law. I've been on back roads when passing through and encountered the same thing. Some of those places are the cheapest, too.
@aediaλ Really? Huh.
@aediaλ Huh. I knew they had done that to make jobs for people, but I thought it was only on the toll highways.
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I foresee I will continue to use only self service for at least the next two years.
I'm not used to full service at all.
17:02
@aediaλ oregon has the same law. i blame the hipsters
in ontario we can pump our own gas. but we're not akkowed to wedge the pump trigger with the gas cap even though the trigger auto-shuts off.
@FallenAngelEyes Well, it's nice to have someone take care of things for you sometimes.
I actually feel weird about it, honestly.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 You do it secretly, don't you? I did when I was in Quebec last.
user19161
I am not sure what is meant by full service here...
17:03
I'm used to being self-suffiicient!
@JasperLoy @aedia was making a joke, Jasper. :) We're talking about gas stations.
@KitΘδς my car has no gas cap. so... :(
@JasperLoy It means they pump the gas for you.
@KitΘδς indeed, in the UK self service is standard, and I only get a full service once every two years or so
@MattEllenД Self-service is standard in my state too. I make fun of my mother because she won't pump her own gas.
mmmm, delicious gyro. your tender slices of roasted meat are no match for the fury of my tongue
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17:04
Oh, so now self service has two meanings here, interesting.
@KitΘδς does she have no hands?
@MattEllenД She's a [insert long stream of expletives] kind of woman.
We don't get along.
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By the way, my self service does not require hands, only bodily motion.
@JasperLoy Ingenious.
@KitΘδς Ahaha
17:05
@KitΘδς :(
guys, can we all agree that the gyro is the best innovation in the bread-and-meat department to reach the US in the last 100 years?
@JasperLoy But I think you're depriving yourself of variety.
(i say "to reach the us" because i believe the greeks and the turks have been enjoying gyros for longer than that)
@JSBᾶngs I prefer souvlaki personally.
@JSBᾶngs i have not tried one. I think somewhere sells them around here...
there are both Greek and Turkish restaurants
17:07
@MattEllenД Oh, you should. They are delicious.
Whenever I read of them I immediately think people are talking about gyroscopes and then I'm confused.
@KitΘδς souvlaki is very good. but if you've wrapped it in a pita, then i could argue that it's a gyro in spirit
@MattEllenД Not "gyro," more like "hero."
@JSBᾶngs Tru dat.
Yero.
Yeero.
@KitΘδς around here most people say "yeero"
like Kit said
@KitΘδς oh! well, that would be less confusing.
17:09
@JSBᾶngs I got there. I had to sound it out.
@MattEllenД Well, it does rotate, hence the name.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 guffaw
hang on
is this just a donner kebap?
Could be, but kebabs are different I think.
hmm, yeah, they look a little different
17:11
@MattEllenД doner kebab refers to the means of roasting on a rotating spit
Similar though. Right idea.
if you take doner kebab meat and put it into a pita, then you have a gyro
at least, that's my understanding
Golly, this is making my earlier salad experience even more painful.
17:12
@MattEllenД that's basically it.
(wikipedia says "doner")
Doner kebab () or sometimes döner kebap, lit. 'rotating roast', often shortened to Doner (), lit. 'turn around', also spelled "doener", "donair", "donar", "doner", or sometimes "donner") is a Turkish dish made of lamb meat (mainly) cooked on a vertical spit and sliced off to order. There are many variants in the composition of the meat, the ways of serving it, and the garnishes. Derived dishes include shawarma in Arabic and gyros in Greek, although ingredients and sauces differ. The term kebab in some countries refers specifically to doner kebab. History Before taking its modern as...
@JSBᾶngs I'm not good at spelling these foods :D
17:12
drools
@JSBᾶngs If I had to choose falafel or gyro, I'd pick falafel. But since you said bread-and-meat, I concur that the gyro is the most amazingest thing to reach us.
the wrap looks different, but otherwise they seem the same.
@aediaλ Turkish pizzas are delicious
@MattEllenД basically they are
But I don't think they exist in the states
17:13
@MattEllenД i'm pretty sure that the doner kebab, the gyro, and the shawarma are the same basic sandwich in three different regional variants
@JSBᾶngs ah
@aediaλ i do like falafel quite a bit. it brings me back to college, where there was a falafel stand that i went to all the time
Falafel, meh. Spanakopita, mmm.
yesterday i visited a somali restaurant nearby and enjoyed both their roasted goat dish and their gyros
and they were both just as good as leftovers
will definitely visit again
I don't think I've ever eaten goat.
17:15
Spanakopita looks like a savoury Baklava
@KitΘδς you should try it. do you like lamb?
@JSBᾶngs I would say "yeero" too but if you get a gyro at like, a non-authentic place (which can still be decent) you have to start it with /ʤ/ to be understood around here.
Did any of you ate lamb's brains?
I did.
It felt... squshy.
@MattEllenД I invented baklacheesecake which is truly excellent.
CheeseCake Factory!
17:16
@KitΘδς Not even falafel with roasted peppers and tzatziki? So good...
@KitΘδς sounds exciting!
@aediaλ mmmm roasted peppers
@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū I avoid eating brains because I am not a zombie and because encephalopathies are nasty.
@JSBᾶngs Meh, it's okay.
@aediaλ tongue lolls Where?
@KitΘδς it's pretty similar. it has to be cooked in the right way--the one time i tried to make goat at home it didn't turn out well at all, but i've always had luck with it at restaurants
@KitΘδς I had goat for what might have been the first time at an Indian place recently. I can't remember what it was called... khasi ko masu, maybe, but that looks like something with more sauce from most pictures I'm finding
@KitΘδς In my imagination :'(
17:22
@aediaλ the indian place near my old house had a decent goat curry
I think I might need second lunch.
but the best goat dishes are from the horn of africa. ethiopian, somali, eritrean, etc.
@KitΘδς I brought two lunches, one for today, one for tomorrow, but accidentally ate both. sigh.
@JSBᾶngs Ohhh you've just reminded me that there's an Ethiopian place in my area I've got to go back to.
@aediaλ eat the goat! you won't regret it
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gah. loseit's calorie counter has entries for goat cheese, goat milk, and raw goat, but not roasted goat. WTF?
17:27
I do have some pizza-flavored Goldfish crackers...
sigh Still better than that offensive salad.
@KitΘδς but what will you feed your goldfish?
@KitΘδς what was wrong with the salad?
@MattEllenД grins toothily
@KitΘδς I'm eating a banana and tea in an effort to prevent myself from going out to order nine thousand calories of falafel.
2 hours ago, by KitΘδς
@MattEllenД I've tried forking, putting oil on it, and swallowing before I can really taste it, but nothing's working.
It was not taco salad.
School has started again, so no more taco salad bar.
@aediaλ Oh God NO!
@KitΘδς bbbbbut, I'm pretty sure goldfish don't find me tasty!
@MattEllenД Hmm (she ponders while licking her paws) that's an interesting interpretation of my expression.
@KitΘδς this is a tragedy.
@aediaλ those foxes look extremely unhappy to be in that room
@aediaλ I was young and needed the money.
@JSBᾶngs And their owners look like complete idiots.
17:31
@KitΘδς i had the money, and i needed more money. i was filthy rich and all i wanted was love, and a little more money
@JSBᾶngs Yeah, it's a shame they're allowed to be kept as pets.
@KitΘδς but they are completely adorable. the foxes, not the owners
@KitΘδς Oh dear... I'm not entirely sure how Fennec foxes find my flavour...
@MattEllenД Savoury.
@aediaλ They probably aren't.
slowly backs away from the hungry fox
17:33
I bet the landlord would have a conniption if he saw that video.
@KitΘδς Those ones might be legal or not, but wiki does say they're allowed some places.
The fennec fox (Vulpes zerda) is a small nocturnal fox found in the Sahara of North Africa. Its most distinctive feature is unusually large ears. The name "fennec" comes from the Arabic word for fox, and the species name zerda has a Greek origin that refers to its habitat. The fennec is the smallest species of canid in the world; coat, ears and kidney functions have adapted to a high-temperature, low-water, desert environment. In addition, its hearing is sensitive enough to hear prey moving underground. The fennec has a life span of up to 12 years in the wild; its main predators include ...
@MattEllenД Easy, easy, it's OK. kiss kiss kiss Come here, don't be shy.
^ from whence my money quote came
@KitΘδς oh foxy fox, how can I resist your charms? but... I... must...
@MattEllenД I'll show you my boobs again...
@JSBᾶngs Ahhh! Make it stop! cowers in corner and shakes
yip yip yip
17:44
@KitΘδς so tempting. yet at the back of my mind I am reminded that you're hungry for flesh.
i'm sure Matt tastes better than that terrible salad
I'll never figure out why some versions of the same link will onebox and others won't, but here's a cute kitten.
yay for teh rezkew kitteh!
@MattEllenД it took me a long time to figure out what "rezkew" meant here
17:50
@JSBᾶngs I don't have the best grasp of lolspeak, I might have misspelled it.
@MattEllenД i don't know if there is a standard spelling of "rescue" in lolspeak. it's a very open-ended language, you know
18:01
Oh, peanut butter pie, you may think that your coffee ally will destroy my palate, but you are sadly mistaken. For coffee shall only enhance your subtle flavour as you fall before my unrelenting lips.
unrelenting hips? Oh sorry, misread that.
If my pie offends you, I shall eat it up.
I now want something with peanut butter in it
@MattEllenД "unrelenting lips" is pretty intriguing on its own
@JSBᾶngs Only if he's been eating a lot of citrus and laying off the alcohol.
18:04
@KitΘδς is that citrus thing true? sounds like urban legend to me.
@KitΘδς I can't do my facial expressions over the internet.
for basic phisiological reasons i find it doubtful that diet affects things that much
It really, really does.
At least, that has been the case in my experience.
@KitΘδς i'll have to take your word for that.
Although there is considerable natural variation as well.
18:05
I'm just popping out to buy some oranges
Ok what are you guys talking about now?
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i'm sure Matt tastes better than that terrible salad
5 mins ago, by KitΘδς
@JSBᾶngs Only if he's been eating a lot of citrus and laying off the alcohol.
aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh gotcha
I'm glad I didn't try to google this.
Gah! How is it possible to fork up this peanut butter pie?
!!
oh noes!
maybe your tastebuds are on strike?
18:14
I shall simply omit eating the crumbled cookie crust. It is burnt.
I have concocted a peanut butter, honey and lettuce sandwich. I hope it tastes good.
Hmm, how odd.
@KitΘδς :( poor quality control
@MattEllenД I hope I have not discouraged you from consuming alcohol.
@KitΘδς why, you wanna get me drunk?
18:18
Don't get ideas.
have no fear, @Kit, I know where I stand.
I will still enjoy alcohol
from time to time
I hope you like beer. And anything in moderation is pretty ok.
I prefer cider
@MattEllenД Oh! Well, that might be just fine.
@KitΘδς That is a Texas Special Sawdust Pie. Nobody ordered that.
18:23
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Q: What is the correct punctuation and most understandable form of this phrase?

GollyJerThroughout life I've pushed to "sit at the table" with older, more experienced people. In doing there's always those who believe I don't belong. From them the argument is usually "There's no substitute for experience". With the word "personal" being implied before the word "experience". While ...

What is this?
And why did you introduce me to Tim Minchin, @MrShiny? I made the mistake of listening to one of the youtube playlists and I keep almost choking myself laughing.
@aediaλ A question for Writers.SE?
@aediaλ Tim Minchin is my new hero. He sings my thoughts, sometimes before I even think them.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 "The affection simply grows over time... like a flower, or a... mushroom, or a guinea pig, or a vine, or a sponge or... bigotry"
"Or a banana"
This is the Minchin playlist I made, which I am listening to right now: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE5E01E666491E1CF
@JSBngs someone has brought you a present that they had "no other choice" but to ask here ;)
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Q: phonetics vs. phonology

Saeed NeamatiI'm reading an article about phonetics and phonology, and it clamis that they are different. But I can't locate where the difference is located. Referring to my dictionary, I can see: Phonetics: study of speech sounds: the scientific study of speech sounds and how they are produced Phonology: ...

18:59
any tips for this guy, @Jasper?
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Q: Camping Tips in General and at East Coast Park in Singapore

Senthil KumaranWhat are the good tips while planning for camping for 1 or 2 nights near a beach. I am talking about East Coast Park in Singapore. We pretty much have nothing to fear there, but I would still appreciate any tips in general for campers planning a night out. Tips which would make the experience all...

@aediaλ well, at least someone's taking an interest
@JSBᾶngs I was helping.
but i'm closing as off-topic
i am sort of in awe of the OPs potato analogy in the comment to the one answer
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Q: Tense of Literary Essay

Proffesor In EnglishWhen writing a literary essay in English what tense should be used: Past as in: Gatsby’s parties were ostentatious and exquisite Or present as in: Gatsby’s parties are ostentatious and exquisite Another example: His house is a ‘colossal affair.’ As opposed to: His house wa...

^ belongs at writers.se
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Q: Correct order of multiple possessive words

Proffesor In EnglishWhich is correct: Myrtle’s party took place in her and Tom’s apartment Or Myrtle’s party took place in Tom's and her apartment Or neither?

There isn't a preferred order, is there?
@JSBᾶngs I can see it being on-topic as a word-choice question. The dictionary definitions do sound almost identical to the uninitiated.
19:13
@Marthaª ! smooch
I have missed you!
Aw. //blush
Teeth!
@Marthaª Does this mean that now we will be thwacked by both @Kit AND @Martha?
Many.
19:14
I was an evil auntie yesterday. I taught the niece to meow.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oh dear. I have been very slack with the thwacking.
my friends were saying that they're having trouble brushing their little un's one tooth
@Marthaª Ha ha ha. That was one of my oldest son's first "words."
@Marthaª I was explaining to my neighbour once, that it's the job of the aunts/uncles and grandparents to be anti-parents: spoil the kids with candy, teach them to play with their food, etc.
@MattEllenД pfah I'm having trouble getting the littlest to stop biting Mommy!
19:16
owweee!
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Teaching kids to play with their food is one of the best ways to get them to eat though.
Hi @Martha!
Hi @aedia!
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@KitΘδς my youngest is 6 months old, and he definitely enjoys his food very much
he spreads it thoroughly on all vertical and horizontal surfaces within his reach
it's messy, but at least we never have to fight to make him eat (and it was the same for his brother)
@KitΘδς Although it was disappointing at the time, I think my sister is very happy now that she had to give up her attempts to breast-feed so early on. The niece has 12 teeth already and is working on more.
19:19
phew That's a lot. My boy is a bit older and has only five-ish.
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@Marthaª it has nothing to do, kids can have many teeth and still be breast-feed without biting
I mean, the kid has molars. I know I wouldn't want that anywhere near my boobs.
He hasn't breastfed in many months though.
@Marthaª Wow! Molars already? That's great!
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@Marthaª by the same reasoning, noöne would ever give or receive fellatio!
@Fx Definitely different reasoning.
19:21
My 16-mo is still being breast-fed and he has lots of teeth. He only occasionally bites.
@Fx Um. Yeah. Where's the brain bleach?
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@Marthaª ok, maybe not the most appropriate choice of mixed topics
still, teeths doesn't exclude breast-feeding
@MrShinyandNew安宇 The oldest didn't bite like this kid bites. I think he must have gotten it from me. I remember really liking to bite things.
Hullo.
Hiya!
19:22
No biting!
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@Cerberus hi
hi @Cerberus :)
...awkward time to arrive in mid-conversation. @Cerberus, hi.
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@Cerberus so what keyword did suck you in? the sex or the kids’ talk?
19:24
@KitΘδς yeah my son did go through a really bitey phase. But breast-feeding-wise he's better behaved than his sister was. My wife went through HELL getting HER to feed properly.
@SpareOom Don't worry, I'm used to it!
I actually came in before I read.
@Fx All of it! Paedophilia rocks!
Oh, in case you hadn't noticed, I'm drunk.
how can rocks be paedophiles?
happy drunk tiems @Cerb!
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@Cerberus so early? (both evening-wise and week-wise)
19:25
@KitΘδς i still really like to bite stuff.
@MattEllenД Ask the rocks!
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Q: Is there a semantic difference between "pedophile" and "pederast"?

KitΘδςIf I understand the etymology of pedophile and pederast, both mean child lover. Is there a difference in their connotation? In some recent local news stories that discuss changing sex offender laws, the controversy has centered around dividing the pedophiles and the rapists from the more questi...

@Fx Yeah been drinking since 2 pm, party.
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@Cerberus oh man, the Netherlands :)
Sure!
19:26
@JSBᾶngs Me too. shh Don't tell anyone.
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you know what, I actually have a bottle of pink-coloured, weird flavour drink from Amsterdam at home, I'll toast you right now
My brother's graduation. Are we supposed to stay sober when he has survived severe drilling from his professor?
@Cerberus It's Monday. The day after a hurricane, when the office didn't have the decency to have a power outage. What's to celebrate?
@Fx Ehh are you sure!?
@Marthaª Mine either!
19:27
@KitΘδς Oh, I see. Thanks :D
@Marthaª Sorry for your loss!
I was really hopeful when I called the infoline this morning but no dice.
@Cerberus Heh heh. You said "severe drilling."
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@Cerberus sure it's from Amsterdam? yeah, I don't remember much about it, but it was definitely in my bag when I came back to Paris :)
@Cerberus hum, isn't that prohibited by academic good standing?
@KitΘδς indeed he did
@aediaλ I second that (or third as the case may be).
19:29
@Cerberus I was so hopeful when I learned that both my house & the boss were without power. (I was at my sister's.) But nooooo, the office never lost power. Hmph.
@Marthaª Stupid office.
@KitΘδς Ewww perv!
Thankfully, our house got power back just after midnight, so I didn't have to take a cold shower this morning.
@Cerberus giggle Drunk bastard. bite
@Fx On the contrary! It's part of the deal. You suffer, then you party.
19:30
@Marthaª No loss of power here. At least no loss of electricity.
@Marthaª Jeesh you should just bomb it next time! Such a fuss.
Coming home was eerie: the movie theater/Wegmans were completely dark, and so was the Wawa.
@Marthaª You have Wegmans!
@Marthaª NOT THE WAWA?!?
@FallenAngelEyes Yup. It's Not A Grocery Store, It's A Shopping Theme Park.
19:33
@Marthaª I'm always happy to find people who know Wegmans. I grew up in the Finger Lakes in central NY, so Wegmans was a staple of my childhood
How did you survive? I miss my Wawa still...
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@Cerberus cheers!
as for proof that it's Dutch:
I actually grew up across the lake from Danny Wegman's house
@Fx Ehh is that your weird drink?
19:34
@Fx Huh, never heard of that
That shop is not a hundred meters from here, I think!
Funny.
@aediaλ My brother-in-law filled my tank on Saturday. Then he spent Sunday trying to beat my computer into submission. I have a useful brother-in-law.
But it looks disgusting, no offence.
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@Cerberus it originally came with a notice of what's in it, but I kinda lost it
@Cerberus it's a small world
@Fx Judging by the color, Concord grape juice.
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19:36
it tastes a lot like medicine, though
Is it asbestos and puréed babies?
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I feel better already :)
@Fx You bought it because it says "Fockink" on it, didn't you?
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@KitΘδς the only thing I remember is that we tasted a lot of different colors before choosing
@KitΘδς I have been trying to come up with a descent pun for the past 5 minutes. my punning powers are failing :(
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19:37
but I mostly remember the tasting part, not so much the choosing
@MattEllenД even with "drilling hard"?
A "descent pun"? A bad joke about going downwards?
@Fx Alcohol sometimes has that effect.
Oooh Martha is fuelled up!
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@KitΘδς I rarely drink enough for that, but that was one of the two times
I'll leave you to your punning and your drinking.
19:38
@Marthaª ha, I always get that wrong. decent? oh, right, that's a word too.
Later, children!
@Cerberus Bai!
cya @Cerberus, have fun!
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later @Cerb
Bai!
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19:39
and now, my sister-in-law looks at me funny because I drink in front of a computer and take pictures of it with the webcam
@Cerberus Enjoy the party!
lol, Robusto said Panties
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A: A word for a form of government that governs itself

Robusto 初夢The word I think you're looking for may be utopia: Utopia |yo͞oˈtōpēə|(also utopia ) noun an imagined place or state of things in which everything is perfect. The word was first used in the book Utopia (1516) by Sir Thomas More. The opposite of dystopia. ORIGIN based on Greek ou ‘not’ +...

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going to improve my English by watching Dexter, see you all later!
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don't let him make you think murder is OK
@MattEllenД Wait, what's wrong with murder?
19:43
@Fx Hasta luego!
@KitΘδς well, you know, do unto others or something
and also don't do unto others that which you would not want them doing unto you
@MattEllenД scratches head Huh?
@MattEllenД What about survival of the fittest?
@KitΘδς well, that only brings about capitalism and the eventual depletion of the human-useable resources
ponders
@KitΘδς also, there are always exceptions
also - please don't kill me
19:47
Surely we wouldn't deplete human-useable resources if we were more open-minded about murder?
@MattEllenД Like it's okay if somebody calls "war" first.
@KitΘδς it's possible, I suppose, that if we had survival of the fittest as the only rule, then there would be far fewer humans
@Kit, how old is your eldest, if you don't mind me asking?
but survival of the fittest has blossomed, so we're in a state where there are many people who are not willing to kill (for fear of reprisal), but are not willing to help (because, what's in it for them?)
@SpareOom 3 and a half years.
@MattEllenД You are a silly person.
:P
19:54
@KitΘδς always and forever
Survival of the Fittest doesn't mean survival of the strongest.
It's kill or be killed, sell or be sold.

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