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Mitch

17:25

@Cerberus angry birds.

They're the wurst

@Robusto I think something else is chafing.

@JohanLarsson ha ha..I know right? They should be using Pandora, it's classy.

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus yep

Cerberus

17:40

Ah OK, I kind of guessed...

@Mitch Ever played it?

hey

17:52

angrybirdsgames.com

hey

18:24

Chat is dead

Anonymous

18:43

@JohanLarsson So Comic Sans is bad, but Random Capitalization is okay. :-)

Johan Larsson

Mitch

:) !!

@Cerberus a handful of times. they don't seem that angry.

Johan Larsson

@Mitch are you annoyed with the universal answer?

tchrist

19:05

I wonder whether our whilom-British brethren mightn’t count this as “taking the piss” out of the quaerent:

A: Word for a body of water that is sufficiently populated with fish and worthy of fishing in

A piscary is a body of water natural or artificial (a piscine would only be an artificial one) under active piscicultural care to render it fit for piscation and related piscatorial—or simply piscatory—pursuits perpetrated by piscivorous piscators, at which point said piscose body will be perfect...

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Mitch

20:07

@JohanLarsson Of all the things to complain about they choose fonts? Most people don't care.

Johan Larsson

I meant the :) answer

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Mitch

21:20

@JohanLarsson Oh. I was just repeating the siles that every one else was saying. Incresing the happiness.

user116848

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user116848

Godfather theme is nice!

tchrist

22:03

@Cerberus “Riverside County, California charging prisoners $142.42 per day of their prison stay” in English and Spanish.

> In Camden County, Georgia, officials mulled the idea of sending prisoners to work as firefighters to cope with budget woes.

Tell me how that isn’t slave labor.

And insane, too.

Cerberus

Odd.

I don't think forced labour is allowed here...

tchrist

A two-year sentence in the county jail there would incur an additional $103,966.60 in fees for room and board, this above whatever they might have been fined by the court for the crime as allowed for by law.

Cerberus

How can anyone pay that?

tchrist

This is extra-judicial, and, I feel, completely unconstitutional bullshit.

Cerberus

And what if he can't?

tchrist

22:07

Then they have a lifetime lien on the wages he will ever after earn.

They get a court order to intercept all legal paychecks and cut out a portion of them.

So of course they turn to blackmarket income. Duh.

Idiots, one and all.

user116848

That's too much money. It's like imprisoning them in a whirlpool of unlimited loan if they can't pay.

user116848

And then they'll say that they even have to pay 'interest' :D

tchrist

Yes, that’s right. If you didn’t pay, you accumulate compound interest.

user116848

So that's very evil. Donchathink?

tchrist

So much for the constitutional guarantee against cruel and unusual punishment.

Oh wait, this doesn’t count as such, because it is not a statutory punishment incurred due to the crime committed.

So they can be fucked every which way the county should please. Forever.

They’re just making this all up.

user116848

22:11

And prison isn't safe either. So there is a danger of getting hurt there too.

tchrist

It is Evil with a capital E.

Evil is not a word I use lightly.

But this counts.

user116848

Yes it does

tchrist

Part of the problem is that once you are found guilty of anything, you become the Bad Guy, and all manner of state-sponsored wickedness is considered only fair and just.

user116848

True

tchrist

And any legislator who tries to fight against it risks being targeted as giving lollipops to dangerous criminals, whom we should of course be punishing in eternity for their failure to pay their parking ticket. Take away their children, stuff like that.

user116848

22:14

Yes, it is a difficult debate.

tchrist

The Colorado governor, a Democrat, may lose his job because of signing a bill passed by the state chambers (both Democratic as well) making it illegal to pull that sort of shit. The legislators are also in peril.

There is the idea that it is ok to commit all manner of injustice against someone who did something in violation of any sort of law, whether this be jaywalking or not cutting your lawn or stealing pencils from your employers or buying cigarettes in another state.

It is a terrible terrible idea, and it leads to atrocities.

They are a bad person, so we get to anything we like to to them. No matter that the crimes have certain penalties associated with them. Those penalties are the least of the trouble. It is all the extra-judicial penalization that destroys them.

user116848

Very true.

tchrist

It’s not like these things are ever put to a vote. They are simply invented and levied; there is no appeal. But even if they were voted on, the people who are affected would not be allowed to vote: in many and perhaps most states, once you have been convicted of a crime, you are never again allowed to vote.

Cerberus

22:36

A simpleton likes to divide people into Good and Bad.

Civilisation can be measured by how a society treats its criminals.

And its outcasts, too.