English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

skullpatrol

00:18

QED

GnomeSlice

00:34

Holla

skullpatrol

yo

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hey

skullpatrol

wazzup?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

nuttin

trying to figure out why this ios phone doesn't work properly when every other browser I have is working fine on the site I'm working on

but I'm all out of beer

GnomeSlice

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Apple.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

00:47

Yeah.

Well, my customers insist on it.

So watcha gonna do

Cerberus

Yo.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You know how to fix it...

Through the infernal device down a cliff.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

It's my first time spending more than a few seconds using a modern iphone. It's okay, despite its freakishly small screen and dastardly lack of customizability.

Cerberus

Oh, only despite those things.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Sadly, if I do that, my QA tester will still complain that this P1 bug is not fixed.

Cerberus

You could tell him there is nothing you can do and he should upgrade to a modern phone.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

00:53

I'm afraid that isn't going to really help.

Besides, I already spent I don't know how long fixing bugs that were affecting IE8 and 9. I can hardly neglect mobile safari.

skullpatrol

Why does everything have to be modern these days? Like really, just run the old stuff into the ground, by then there will be more old stuff being sold for cheap :-)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yeah I giggle a little at the incongruity of @Cerberus suggesting someone use a modern thing

Mr. Galaxy Nexus, Windows XP, Classical Latin over here

KitFox

I'm waiting on a release myself.

Well, waiting on SQA to decide whether it's going live tonight.

GnomeSlice

Sounds fun.

KitFox

You know it.

GnomeSlice

01:07

store.datagarden.org/album/metaverse

KitFox

I missed something you pung me on recently.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox you guys release stuff on thursday nights?

KitFox

@GnomeSlice This doesn't want to load for me right now.

GnomeSlice

=[

KitFox

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yep.

Also sometimes on Sunday afternoon.

GnomeSlice

01:09

@KitFox Possibly this

Today's music

KitFox

Weird, that won't go either. Must be my interwebs are all sticky.

GnomeSlice

=[

KitFox

The t-storms earlier seem to have muddled everything.

GnomeSlice

Does youtube work?

►

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Shhhh.

With Windows 7, you can't really do much more than with Windows XP.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

01:12

@Cerberus Are you going to get the 1+1?

Cerberus

It's different if you upgrade from Iphone to Android.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Yes, I can use all the ram in my computer

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh, no, I'm not allowed to waste money on a new phone when my old one still works.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

That right there is like, a major improvement

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Meh, I don't really need more RAM that I have on my PC, most of the time.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

01:12

I used to have to reboot my XP box into Linux just to run a Java memory analysis tool that was 64-bit

Cerberus

The RAM on my phone is a huge source of annoyance, though.

KitFox

@GnomeSlice It's trying really hard. Might make it.

Cerberus

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I got Windows 7 and suddenly the 4GB on my box was actually 4GB, not 3.5, and suddenly I could run the memory tool natively.

That was on the same hardware, even.

Cerberus

The icon in my tray showing how much RAM I am using.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

01:13

And not to mention that Windows 7 has better support for newer hardware like SSDs

KitFox

@GnomeSlice sighs 19 seconds and it barfed.

Cerberus

Ugh, why won't my picture load?

KitFox

Sounded cool though.

GnomeSlice

19 seconds out of 63:22.

Close enough.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Sure, when I upgrade to an SSD, I will switch to Windows 7. Or 9.

But I don't have an SSD.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

01:16

@Cerberus So when you say that Windows 7 doesn't really provide any benefits, you're basically wrong. It provides lots.

Cerberus

It can provide benefits.

To some people.

But not to me, not now.

GnomeSlice

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 On my current computer, the benefits would be negligible. Not worth the cost in time and effort.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

KitFox

> Please deploy the new release to production.

Cerberus

01:17

Haha.

KitFox

Oh snap. Solutions manager just bypassed SQA.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

uhoh

What kinds of solvents does he work with, to make all those solutions?

You know what they say. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

KitFox

I think he sniffs glue.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I can't argue with you there.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Everything I say is inarguable.

KitFox

That's not true.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

01:24

Yes it is.

KitFox

grumbles, shakes fist

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

That's what I'm doing to ios right now

grumbles, shakes fist at iPhone

I've been trying to figure out a good way to pun Cerb's "Iphones are gay" and "homophone"

iPhones all sound the same

Cerberus

Haha.

Did you hear about the new Eye Phone? It's a homophone.

Robusto

Gay humor?

Cerberus

If you call that humour...

How fare you?

Robusto

01:33

I'm fine.

Cerberus

Good.

Any news from the job front?

Robusto

The job front?

Are you confusing me with tchrist?

Cerberus

I thought you were still thinking about various jobs and stuff.

Robusto

I took a job back in April. So far it's working out.

Cerberus

That is good. So you are not thinking about leaving it at the moment?

Robusto

01:36

No. I'm going to stick with it for a while. We'll see.

So far they're letting me do interesting stuff in my own way, which is always good.

Cerberus

Great.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yay the homophone is fixed.

Cerberus

Did you send it to a camp?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

no I changed a span to an a

Cerberus

Or did you just neuter it?

Ow...

What's the difference?

I have seen both in HTML.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

01:44

for some reason it refused to acknowledge clicks on the span

KitFox

Maybe so you don't touch activate stuff?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

but there was JS bound to the span specifically to add activation.

It is the only browser that has that issue, afaik, and others encountered the problem as well

5

Q: bootstrap 3 accordion collapse does not work on iphone

These "accordion submenus" work in chrome and firefox, but not on an iphone. I have built a site which includes an "offcanvas" navigation menu on smaller screens. The user clicks "the hot dog button", and the navigation menu slides onto the screen from the left... that works great so far. Some...

Cerberus

Hmm stupid IOS.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

well, stupid Mobile Safari, anyway

Cerberus

nods

skullpatrol

01:50

why is it when I use google on my iPhone I have to reopen the page in Safari?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Because you're using an iphone

GnomeSlice

Apple™

I love my iPod touch, but I hate Apple.

Cerberus

Good.

GnomeSlice

buncha nerds

skullpatrol

me?

GnomeSlice

01:58

Apple

KitFox

And it's launched. Ima head to bed.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Are you trying to insult Apple by calling them "nerds"?

GnomeSlice

@KitFox Peace.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox pleasant dreams.

skullpatrol

caling someone a "nerd" doesn't pack the same punch as it used to

I mean before the internet age

if that makes any sense

Cerberus

02:05

It does.

George Pompidou

02:36

Sounds like she was railed. — George Pompidou 1 hour ago

does that joke come across clearly?

and is just not funny? or is it unclear what I'm saying?

I was really proud of it…

GnomeSlice

03:01

@GeorgePompidou looooool

George Pompidou

03:20

I mean, isn't that the obvious comment?

he literally sets it up! "if she took the bus she was bussed" hurr how about for trains?

GnomeSlice

trained?

George Pompidou

sorry man, but that guy's daughter got railed.

that's just the way it is.

Jasper Loy

10:09

This chat is dead.

Matt Эллен

in The Bridge, 49 secs ago, by fredley

It's always morning (or night) in UGT

marantou

Hi there!

Matt Эллен

hello

skullpatrol

Hello.

RegDwigнt

Hello?

marantou

10:12

Is it EL&Us birthday today?

RegDwigнt

No idea.

Matt Эллен

Apparently it was yesterday

according to @KitFox

marantou

Ah....How old?

Matt Эллен

4 years? I'm not sure

RegDwigнt

12 August 19:00:00Z

English Language & Usage – english.stackexchange.com

Launched Q&A site for linguists, etymologists, and (serious) English language enthusiasts

marantou

10:13

hmmm...no wonder it's miffed...4 year olds tend to do that

RegDwigнt

Private beta was 5 August.

Jasper Loy

@RegDwigнt In the end, I deleted both answers, lol.

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy you are a great deletionist. Almost like Houdini.

Anyway. I wasn't around for the private beta, so I've no reason to celebrate.

In four days I shall drink something.

marantou

You can still say "happy birthday"...

RegDwigнt

But today I shall only drink something just because.

@marantou to whom?

Actually, that's a better question than it might seem. Who is still around who was there for the private beta?

Jasper Loy

10:16

english.stackexchange.com/questions/189335/… Both answers seem wrong...

marantou

Beats me...to KitFox?...I'm new here any which way...

RegDwigнt

There is no easy way to search for it, either...

I am user ID 300 and I only joined when the beta went public.

Matt and Rob and Kit and basically everyone joined like years later.

Matt Эллен

the proposer is still around

Jasper Loy

english.stackexchange.com/questions/189340/… I like my short answer.

Matt Эллен

Good Person, Earth

101 7

RegDwigнt

10:19

@MattЭллен Is he? I thought he never created an account?

Matt Эллен

yup. you deleted his only question

RegDwigнt

Harharhar.

Jasper Loy

He doesn't participate much.

RegDwigнt

Anyway. Nope. He joined a month after myself.

Matt Эллен

yes. It doesn't look like they participated in the closed beta

RegDwigнt

10:20

Nohat must be like user 30 or something. But that's about the only one I can think of.

39.

Matt Эллен

Mehper C. Palavuzlar, Istanbul, Turkiye

16.4k 22 81 153

single-word-requests meaning word-choice etymology differences grammaticality verbs

looking at those who have the beta badge

Jasper Loy

Very handsome.

RegDwigнt

Oh yeah Mehper went missing in action for like two years but resurfaced just recently.

Matt Эллен

I don't recognise many

Jasper Loy

I went missing many times.

RegDwigнt

10:21

@MattЭллен I am just going through /users/ and incrementing the numbers at the end manually.

User 1 does not exist.

Matt Эллен

JSB was in the private beta

RegDwigнt

User 2 and 3 are SE mods.

User 4 is Jin.

Bryan Downing, California

443 3 9 16

grammatical-number possessive grammaticality apostrophe capitalization pronouns punctuation

Now that's a nice tidy account.

User no. 5.

Jasper Loy

Nice beard.

RegDwigнt

Keeps coming back regularly once a year, good question record.

Member for 4 years, visited on 40 days, asked 7 questions.

Last seen a month ago.

So he hasn't given up on us just yet.

Jasper Loy

They should give me a deletionist badge.

Matt Эллен

10:24

You'd just delete it

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy how can they give a badge to a deleted account?

MatthewMartin, United States

1.4k 11 20

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User no. 6. Same thing!

Jasper Loy

Nice glasses.

RegDwigнt

Member for 4 years, visited on 113 days, last seen a month ago, 7 questions, 16 answers.

And I actually remember most of his questions.

From the olden days. So he does seem to have given up somewhat.

Uncle Mikey, Minnesota

736 6 5

auxiliary-verbs contractions etymology get-be grammar grammatical-number modal-verbs

User no. 7. Not seen in two years. Six answers.

Adam Robinson, Charlotte, NC

154 9

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Jasper Loy

I think these people should just delete their accounts.

Matt Эллен

terrible advice!

RegDwigнt

10:27

No. 8. One question, one answer, one deleted answer. Not seen in nine months.

@JasperLoy yeah come on Jasper. We're celebrating them here and then you say something like that. Not cool.

Ramprasad Prabhakar

458 1 6 8

tenses word-choice verbs auxiliary-verbs can-could future-tense grammar

Okay that one's not coming back.

Two questions about Indian English in Aug 2010, and that's it. Never seen again. Visited for 3 days in total.

Humpton

128 4

possessive

Number 10 and I'm taking a break.

Interesting gravatar.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt still managed to get the yearling badge twice!

RegDwigнt

One question, no answers, seen on 7 days, 9 profile views. Not around since Feb 13.

@MattЭллен yeah I have like five on SO by now, and I don't even know what SO is.

Daniel, Moscow, Russia

101 2

Moscow, Russia. No questions, no answers. Somehow 7 profile views, however. Visited on 5 days, never again since Sep 2013.

Matt Эллен

joined but did nothing

RegDwigнt

7k on SO, though.

That's where the profile views are trickling through.

Eruditass

646 9 15

phrases prepositions word-choice present-tense pronunciation punctuation semicolon

Okay this name I actually remember.

But not around since March 2011.

> Why did sucking question get a lot of downvotes?

Harhar.

Matt Эллен

:D

RegDwigнt

10:33

serg

1.2k 2 16 22

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Hey cool, the first person I really know.

And last seen just a week ago, too.

User no. 13.

12 questions, but not an avid voter. 20 votes in four years.

nosmoking

@RegDwigнt he smartly camouflaged his name

RegDwigнt

@nosmoking nah, clearly it's short for Alexey. He can't fool me.

marantou

:D

nosmoking

hehe

RegDwigнt

Emmett, San Francisco, CA

101 2

No questions or answers. 13 votes in four years. Last seen a month ago. Five profile views, 6k on SO, 26k on MSO.

Matt Эллен

10:36

MSE

RegDwigнt

BSE.

Matt Эллен

he used to be a SE dev

RegDwigнt

Yeah I totally know the name.

Just not from this site.

Matt Эллен

Doc Emmett Brown

RegDwigнt

I think I know the face, too. But I might be confusing him with Larry Page.

Or with Emmett from the LEGO Movie.

nosmoking

10:38

Page wears tuxedos

RegDwigнt

Nick Pierpoint, United Kingdom

283 3 10

conjunctions etymology grammar parentheses punctuation word-choice writing

Tidal sand dot com. One question one answer, 15 votes 13 badges, 19 views. Not seen since over a year.

Daniel LeCheminant

824 2 15 14

etymology expressions grammaticality meaning pronunciation punctuation quotation-marks

Five questions, four Yearling badges. Not seen in half a year.

aphoria

121 4

conjunctions etymology grammar word-choice

No idea who that is. But visited on 101 days and cast 43 upvotes.

Three answers, two of them deleted.

Jasper Loy

Reg has become a bot.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt 20 passive votes a year. nice

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy spake the Delet-o-bot.

@MattЭллен yeah not too shabby. Especially seeing how it's 824 in total.

So they are very equally spaced out.

nosmoking

RegKnight

RegDwigнt

10:41

Really no room for error at all.

He gets exactly 205.75 points a year, every year. You need 200.

Matt Эллен

:D

RegDwigнt

User 18 has been nuked.

Lukas Cenovsky, Czech Republic

101 2

User 19. Visited on 100 days, but no questions or answers, and only five votes. Last seen two years ago.

Mashmagar, Michigan

101

Zeroes all around. Needless to say, never seen him.

Jasper Loy

I need 10 more points to get a flair.

RegDwigнt

No posts, no votes, no badges. And only 2 profile views including mine and his own.

Jasper Loy

But what's the point right? I am just gonna delete it.

Matt Эллен

10:45

just in case you need one before hand

@JasperLoy you don't have to

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy yeah seriously. Ease up on the "OMG I got an upvote" reports. Not even yourself really cares.

You're like that girl from gaming.

Jasper Loy

@RegDwigнt I give you a badge for using italics in chat for emphasis.

RegDwigнt

I always use italics in chat for emphasis. Everyone always does.

Peter Eisentraut, Pennsylvania

2.1k 6 17

word-choice british-english american-english grammaticality punctuation formality prepositions

Jasper Loy

@MattЭллен You should aim for 20k this year.

RegDwigнt

Yeah cool Peter. The second person after serg whom I really recognize.

Matt Эллен

10:48

@JasperLoy ,less then 400 reps to go!

RegDwigнt

3 questions, 27 answers, 14 badges, 110 votes. Visited on 94 days, last seen a month ago.

@MattЭллен you are missing a comma before then.

Matt Эллен

thenks

RegDwigнt

Much batter.

Jasper Loy

Isn't it also the religious alternative? My understanding is that creation in the religious sense usually includes stuff that's not alive. — Rupe 30 mins ago

How is "life" religious?

Matt Эллен

oh. maybe I'll make toad in the hole on Sunday

RegDwigнt

10:50

I don't know what that means. Something with buttocks?

If it's not something with buttocks, it ain't BrE.

Jesse Beder, Chicago, IL

101 3

Matt Эллен

you won't like it

@harto Coïncidentally, as I was watching MDK, this was baking in my oven: http://t.co/2XbvUlQd6B

Tweeted by MellenTheNerd on October 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM

RegDwigнt

Chicago, IL. No posts, one vote. Visited on 14 days including two days ago.

Matt Эллен

you have to follow the link to see

RegDwigнt

That's one strange fellah.

@MattЭллен it's just a worst.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy God created the universe.

RegDwigнt

10:53

God is part of the universe. So the universe created him.

kitukwfyer, United States

3k 14 20

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nosmoking

@skullpatrol Why should there be a creation?

RegDwigнt

Okay here's a celebrity at last.

User 23.

nosmoking

why a beginning is needed?

RegDwigнt

74 answers, 339 votes, 419 profile views, 20 badges including four Yearlings, visited on 672 days.

But not in the last five months.

nosmoking

space-time, cf big bang

Matt Эллен

10:53

@RegDwigнt oh! yeah. I didn't notice that name on the beta badge list. I guess it's undistinctive avatar

Jasper Loy

Ladies and gentlemen, I announce that I have obtained 200 on ELU!

skullpatrol

@nosmoking I was answering @JasperLoy's question about how is all life religous

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy Well done, now you can chat ten times over

nosmoking

@skullpatrol ok

RegDwigнt

devmake, Czech Republic

101 2

Another zero-sum gamer. But visited on 74 days including this February.

nosmoking

10:55

devgrep

RegDwigнt

devsudosandwich

sblair, United Kingdom

101 3

nosmoking

devapt-get

RegDwigнt

And yet another one of the same variety. No posts, five votes, but visited on 66 days including a month ago.

jackgill

1.5k 9 11

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This one rings a bell but much in afar.

Jasper Loy

I am going to watch TV and eat dinner.

skullpatrol

later pal

RegDwigнt

10:56

30 answers, 30 votes, even 3 down. Not seen for over two years.

Excellent, I have bored Jasper to dinner.

nosmoking

@JasperLoy it reminds me I didn't watched TV since decades, only a few images when someone turn it on near me

RegDwigнt

Michael Pryor, New York, NY

101 2

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy CU

skullpatrol

@RegDwigнt you bored me to tears long ago :-)

RegDwigнt

Okay Michael everyone will know from MSO.

nosmoking

10:58

@RegDwigнt ^ excellent

RegDwigнt

But no posts and barely half a dozen votes. 23 visits, not since April.

Robert Cartaino ♦, Palm Bay, FL

1.2k 7 23

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No comment needed, the celebrity so far.

I do wonder where Jeff and Joel are.

I thought they were always user 1 and 2 on all sites.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt didn't get the beta badge!

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