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12:00
@Alraxite I only meant that it wasn't male. Or not definitely male.
I can't enter the room! :0 @KitFox
There was Heavenly Sword.
A very large number games don't have a main character.
True.
mario, sonic, zelda, COD, Doom, Quake, duke nuke 'em, Half life, Halo, yoshi's island, banjo kazooie, assassin's creed, hitman, parapa the rapper,
12:00
I have a feeling only very popular games are mentioned here.
I could easily go on
@medica Try now.
So the definition needs some thinking.
Ratchet and Clank.
@Cerberus but by definition popular games are the ones that have the most impact
12:01
Jak and Daxter.
MarioKart.
Lego batman
Well, all the Mario/Disney games.
batman games
@MattЭллен Lego everything.
superman games
spiderman games
dragonball games
rape games
12:02
Except The Lego Movie Lego game you could argue the Wyldstyle is equal.
@MattЭллен Okay, then maybe think about what "most games" means. Weighted by time played times number of players?
Ms. Pacman.
@KitFox I was trying to find a non-tendentious way to say that. 'large chest'? 'decolletage'? 'mammalian protuberances'?
@Alraxite You mean PacMan with a pink bow attached?
Hmm mammalian protuberances...
12:02
@Cerberus computer and console games
@KitFox Yes. What else do you want?
@KitFox I'm sorry. I see the room but the message is:
KitFox has removed medica from the list of this room's owners.
There is a recent game with a normally proportioned woman and a big sword. Resistance or something.
@MattЭллен A console is a computer! So is a phone.
I am not sure what it is that I'm not getting right.
12:03
And that includes Facebook and Flash games.
@Cerberus OK, yeah, all of them. tell me, would you assume any of the pigs in that pig flinging game are female?
I do not know this game.
Angry Birds?
I'm sure you do, I just can't remember the name :D
@KitFox yes!
sorry, I meant any of the birds
I only know the name.
12:04
Clash of Clans.
League of Legends.
Never played it.
Oh! My Little Pony is pink and for girls.
@medica Can you talk?
Yes. If I can actually write in that room
A notable exception is flappy bird because the bird is, AFAIK, sexless
Does it say you can't?
12:06
@Cerberus I've piqued your interest, eh?
You have explicit write access.
@KitFox exactly
Kit, I can't write. I don't know why. I must be going to the wrong room.
I can see you in it.
@Mitch I think it was the protuberances that did the piquing.
12:09
I'm trying, but it won't let me. How about this: If I flag something with an explanation, will that work?
@MattЭллен Sounds masculine.
Oh Bioshock Infinite has a woman as a principal.
@medica Sure.
In games like Dragon Age, you can pick your sex.
Dragon Age is pretty sexist.
12:10
where you said is this the room, yes, that's it.
All I see is : Only users nominated by the room owner may talk here. See the faq for more information. This room is now deleted; additional access requests are not permitted.
Dragon Age also has the dwarf realm, where women carry the bloodline and are more important than men.
If I remember correctly.
@medica Oh! It's deleted.
is that normal?
Well, the majority of games with protagonists have male leads, I admit that.
@Mitch Huh?
And the majority of games are about blowing things up or shooting things or otherwise competing.
12:15
Yes, there are many of that sort.
The point being?
Those methods of problem solving are particularly appealing to boys.
Really? Girls don't like shooting games?
There is probably a difference on average.
But still plenty of girls like those games and plenty of boys don't.
@KitFox OK. So which games appeal to girls?
Puzzles?
There are plenty of that.
I would hazard a guess and say more educated boys tend to like shooters less than less educated boys, etc.
12:18
I would guess your guess is wrong
I love shooting games, but I like things that require more strategy than "shoot them before they shoot you".
Shooters are really fun.
There are plenty of strategy games. There are plenty of every type of game.
@Cerberus Yeah yeah, I read the news.
The fashion news that is!
@Alraxite Mostly with male protagonists though.
@KitFox Yes.
I did accept that.
The type of game, however, can be enjoyed by anyone.
12:31
@Alraxite In portal (er... portal 2), the game play is not (terribly) masculine, two things work together to solve a problem (that they can't do alone) in a (mostly) nondestructive manner (but it is by shooting). But the ostensible plot (the framing, the words said, is that these are two bumbling man-child robots that are led along by a (it turns out) passive aggressive female that (spoiler alert)...
@MattЭллен I guess.
@Mitch just wants to settle down with a nice guy and raise a family?
@Mitch I haven't got myself to play 2, so OK then.
@Cerberus the games you want to play are more influenced by your peers than by how smart or educated you are
And what games your peers play is influenced by...
I think this applies somewhat less to more intelligent, independent kids.
Depending on age, of course.
But I must run.
G'bye!
CU
@Cerberus independence is probably a factor. intelligence is not.
12:57
@Alraxite "The cake is a lie"
@MattЭллен a robot family.
@Mitch Yoichi is chatting in the other room.
@MattЭллен I see it.
user116848
Hi everybody
user116848
Hey
13:13
Hey
user116848
@terdon How do you uploads only photos? I mean where do you get them. It looks cool
Google search for images
Copy img URL
Upload img (instead of sending chat comment)
user116848
So you Google search images only
user116848
Upload from the button next to 'send' here?
13:19
What ever gets you an img in your browser. But yes just google images gets you more choices
user116848
@Mitch Upload from the button next to 'send' here?
@Arrowfar Yes. I didn't use google (I used duckduckgo.com) but yes, that's the idea.
@Arrowfar Yes, (jinx too late)
user116848
13:35
@Mitch (jinx too late)? You mean you replied late?
user116848
...
@Arrowfar yes. I repeated what @terdon said. If you saying it at the same time, that's called a 'jinx' with quasi-magical consequences. I wished it had been a 'jinx' but it was well after terdon said something.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 think of the crazy power generated when a tornado comes through.
user116848
haha
user116848
:)
13:40
@Mitch those things are wonderfully dystopian, eh?
user116848
@Mitch So you 'wished' it to be a jinx? lol
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 So that's why it is important to read dystopian literature!
@Arrowfar Yes. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
Also, chiggers can't be boozers.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Hey, no chatting while driving.
13:47
@Robusto I know, right? What kind of world is he talking about?
@Robusto she's chatting not texting... wait...
I'm passenging!
Honest.
I keep losing my fourgees.
you'll have to pedal harder
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I don't know what those are. An item of women's apparel, perhaps?
geegees -> horses
fourgees -> two horses
aww, gees
13:58
threegees -> someone's upset the mafia
14:38
woo! i'm going to EMF camp!
Did you like the duality of that pingback?
@MattЭллен I WANT TO GO!
@KitFox there are still tickets
It's right before school starts...
14:43
so you've got time before school starts
Yay, my table navigation works! Even the tricky bits!
Woo! I don't know what that means.
You know what a table is? Well, imagine one where you have to navigate an xAxis with lots of yAxis properties assigned to time periods, so you have to have grouping headers for each time period, and you have to figure out how many columns will fit onscreen at one time, and if that's more than the index period, show multiple (possibly fractional) periods, and if it's less than one period, allow interperiod navigation.
vomits
14:51
So there's a period navigator and an interperiod navigator.
I'm sorry, please continue.
How dare you, KitFox.
It was visceral. I couldn't help it.
It sounds like you have crafted an exceptionally brilliant and intricate bit of genius.
Why I said Yay!
Hooray!
14:54
Thank you.
I said Woo.
Oh, and it has a handy navigator strip mapping all the periods available.
It is teh awsum.
preens
Now to go and show it off in the meeting.
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15:11
@Rob 4G cuv'rage.
@Mitch you would like to write an article for the blog exposing each candidate's wrong doings
wiggly hypno-hands
I'm watching this video you posted, @Matt.
I was with her up to the end part.
@KitFox the women as background vid?
Yes.
what's made you waiver?
15:18
When she talks about how killing female NPCs is not punished. I think that's disingenuous. Killing most NPCs is not punished.
I don't think that's something that should be parsed just because one NPC is sexualized and one is not.
Mostly I agree though.
user116848
Hi. What does this sentence mean: "He had me out a little bit later than may be I should have been and I am wiped"
@Arrowfar the person speaking was out late, later than they should have been (past their bed time) and is blaming the man they were out with for this. They are now tired (presumably the next day).
only a little bit later, though
user116848
@MattЭллен Oh! thanks...
wiped == tired
@KitFox I don't get your use of parsed
@KitFox but, yes, I see what you mean.
15:32
@MattЭллен I don't know what I meant either.
Sorry, I was chasing rabbits.
Now I have a cat on me, I need to take a shower before I meet my husband for lunch, and I haven't done a lick of work today.
user116848
Are both these versions grammatically correct??: "I felt I owe/owed you the courtesy of informing you in person"
user116848
For present that is
It should be owed.
Or feel / owe.
user116848
@KitFox So 'owe' is not grammatical here??
No.
You can't feel in the past about something that is current.
user116848
15:37
@KitFox Then why here?: "I called them and they said they are not hiring"
You are reporting speech. It's different.
You could also say "I called them and they said they weren't hiring."
user116848
okay..
user116848
With the same meaning?
Pretty much, yes.
user116848
So both these grammatical?: "I called them and they said they are/were not hiring" Right?
15:40
Yes.
@KitFox oh good :D
@KitFox have fun!
user116848
thanks Kit and Matt :D
user116848
Keep up the good work :)))
@MattЭллен I will now that the cat has stopped hypnotizing me.
that darn cat!
15:44
He sits on the back of my neck and purrs.
And occasionally nibbles.
stretches
my god I'm smelly
brb
@KitFox He’s never done: toxoplasmosis.
@MattЭллен Consider:
> As it becomes trendy, soccer is losing its old frisson of hooliganism.
interesting. that'd be nice
Is that just wishful thinking, or is there something to it?
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Ohhh. That fourgees.
Or is it ellteeeees?
@tchrist I don't know. football's always been popular here. I don't know what trendy requires.
15:46
Trendy requires dedication. I thought all Brits knew that.
Anonymous
@Arrowfar You may want to search for something like optional backshift
we still have police out in force on match days around the UK
@MattЭллен: You're going to have to turn in your Royal Order of the Garter, or whatever it is you people wear under your trousers.
user116848
@snailboat okay..search here on the main site? or google?
Anonymous
15:47
@Arrowfar Up to you!
user116848
okay thanks dude.
@tchrist um... sounds like nostalgia.
football's always had sticker albums
let me read the piece. I think he's just old
Hah.
hmmm, I misread can't I thought he said can
Wait for the last line. :)
15:54
lol. yeah
He sees the game through mud tinted spectacles
fair enough. the fans are still violent, though. Maybe fewer who go to matches are violent.
ticket prices have gone up a lot since the 80s
I see how artfully you dodged calling them colored. They don't like that, you know.
the spectacles?
Aye.
Or the Yankees, for that matter.
By whom I mean the team.
15:59
ticket prices have gone up in proportion to player salaries, not inflation
@tchrist hiss
@MattЭллен So you think increased ticket prices weed out the brawlers? Is that why we no longer see opera hooliganism?
@tchrist I think that's part of it, yeah. there will be other factors.
anyway. I'm gonna scoot.
I was amused that he claimed never to be taken quite seriously about baseball. I wonder how much of that is true and how much merely a setup.
Flee.
@MattЭллен See you!
@tchrist Hahaha. That's a good punchline.
The cat is hypnotizing me again.
He is standing on my shoulder, pressing his purr into my ear.
16:05
They do that.
And tickling me with his whiskers.
I'm trying to work.
It seems to work.
Obviously the wet food is more than a minute old.
He is reminding me that I need to get cat food.
Because he doesn't like to have just dry stuff for breakfast.
Exactly.
I prefer this method. The other is probably taking a crap in my shoe.
16:07
A breakfast of crackers just doesn’t cut it.
Oh, there is my husband. Time for lunch. bbl
user116848
16:18
So is this sentence grammatically correct?: "The old couple told the police that they were watching T.V. at the time of the break in"
user116848
Or should it be ".....that they had been watching T.V. ...." ??
user116848
Or both are correct?
Both are ok
user116848
@skullpatrol So here it is a "optional back-shifting" for me Right?
"were" is better
user116848
16:21
Why not "had been..." robbery is in past perfect right?
I just prefer less words :-)
user116848
I know 'were' is good here. But can you explain it?
user116848
Or it just is :)
It just sounds better to me.
user116848
okay
16:25
You should post it on main to get lots of technical answers.
user116848
okay I will :)
16:46
@MattЭллен Independence and intelligence are often connected...
user116848
And here both are okay to say? "She said she has/had to work overtime tomorrow"

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