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RegDwigнt

16:27

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Q: A meaning for a proverb?

what's the meaning of the proverb "No man is an island entire of itself" by john donne?

meaning

Matt Эллен

three It's a game.

7

RegDwigнt

Thank you!

I saw that game earlier today and couldn't find a browser version.

Everything is a fookin app these days.

KitFox

I can't figure out the rules.

I am so dumb.

Matt Эллен

1+2 = 3
3 + 3 = 6
6 + 6 = 12
and so on

it took me a while

KitFox

Oh, is that how addition works? :-)

RegDwigнt

16:36

@KitFox There's an animation on their official web site. Hold on.

KitFox

I saw the animation, but I feel like the positioning is unpredictable.

It's probably not. I'm just dense.

RegDwigнt

@KitFox new numbers appear at random, yes. But you move everything to the same side all at once.

KitFox

OK, that makes me feel better. I couldn't figure out if it was random or not.

RegDwigнt

So you can predict the direction from which to expect new numbers. Just not the position.

Anyway. I was bitching about apps.

Apps are the curse of our age.

Who ever even came up with this nonsense.

KitFox

And you can't move them when it doesn't make a multiple of three.

Right?

RegDwigнt

16:38

Jan 31 at 0:41, by RegDwigнt

Everything has to be made available on it. Nothing ever just is available.

KitFox

Yes. I agree.

RegDwigнt

@KitFox yes, from 3 on you can only add a number to itself.

KitFox

I like that we are similar in this regard.

RegDwigнt

Jan 31 at 0:42, by RegDwigнt

I thought SE was a website. If your droid can't display websites, screw your droid, I am staying with my "unsmart" phone from the nineties that can.

> No more moves! Your score is 351.

I've no idea how good that is for a first try.

KitFox

I got 377, then 172.

Matt Эллен

16:41

sounds average

KitFox

I'm still kind of confused. The 1s and 2s are the only things that push, maybe?

Matt Эллен

in The Bridge, 25 mins ago, by Yuki

@RedRiderX Is 816 a good score?

flipping gamers

RegDwigнt

Yay! I got a 96.

And sort of consciously, too.

The first time around I just kept pressing buttons more or less at random.

KitFox

Ditto.

RegDwigнt

874.

KitFox

16:44

I can't play this. It is damaging my ego.

Matt Эллен

1061!

KitFox

Eeep!

Matt Эллен

@KitFox you can do it, it' just about lining up numbers

KitFox

I'm too fragile. Maybe next week, after everyone else is tired of playing it.

Matt Эллен

yeah. sounds like a plan.

KitFox

16:49

I've got to go ask questions of the developer now. Did I tell you he pulled my manager into an email chain yesterday?

Bet he's sorry he did that now.

Matt Эллен

:D

RegDwigнt

1101.

KitFox

She was pretty peeved.

RegDwigнt

Still no 192, though.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt unlucky for some

KitFox

16:50

@RegDwigнt Binary. Sweet.

RegDwigнt

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Matt Эллен

all the threes

KitFox

1146

Matt Эллен

I knew you could do it!

KitFox

OK. Really. I have to go do stuff.

RegDwigнt

16:55

Damn. I screwed up.

There should be an undo button.

2788.

KitFox

Wow!

And I just got an email from the guy I was going to talk to about the thing that I was going to talk to him about.

RegDwigнt

But now I gotta commute.

Laters.

Matt Эллен

CU

@KitFox yay!

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Q: How can I dedicate something to my family and make a special note of my wife?

In a formal media article that describes my achievements, I want to say something like the following: I want to dedicate this achievement/award to my family and especially to my wife for all the nights she stayed up to give me company while I pulled all nighthers. The all-nighters seems...

american-english usage

that seems distinctly not-EL&U

I suppose it's a question about "all-nighters"

anywya. I must commute too

CU

Cerberus

17:39

Hi.

Johan Larsson

18:00

hej

Cerberus

Hee.

(Pronounced like hej, I think.)

aedia λ

Hey!

Cerberus

Hey!

Yes, it's also pronounced the same as hey!

aedia λ

Long time no see.

It's been snowing like mad here.

Cerberus

Indeed!

Oh, dear.

And your birthday is coming up, am I right?

aedia λ

18:05

I am so unbelievably glad that we bought a little snowblower.

Yes!

The big three decades.

Cerberus

Yay!

Oh, shi...

It's not as bad as you think, said the veteran.

I turned 31 yesterday.

So you're still the little kid.

aedia λ

@Cerberus Ooh happy belated birthday!

Cerberus

Haha thanks.

KitFox

She's the younger me. Time warp accident.

Cerberus

I didn't celebrate.

aedia λ

18:08

@Cerberus pretends to be offended I'm not a goat!

Cerberus

Umm why a goat?

An old goat?

aedia λ

@Cerberus Aww! Are you going to, perhaps on the weekend?

Cerberus

Family dinner tomorrow.

aedia λ

@Cerberus A kid is a baby goat, right?

Or have I forgotten how to English?

Cerberus

Ohh right.

That was somewhere at the back of my head.

So cute!

Did you screw off your horn, kiddo?

aedia λ

18:10

@KitFox sings Let's do the time warp agaaaain!

@Cerberus I think it hasn't grown yet in that photo.

Cerberus

Oh it's a childhood picture.

I love how big your front paws are.

KitFox

@aediaλ That's how I put our hip out.

Well, I guess just mine. You're not old enough for it to have happened yet.

Or maybe you are.

Time is difficult.

aedia λ

@Cerberus That's nice! I'm having dinner with my parents Saturday, and hopefully my brother too, which I'm excited about because I've not seen him much lately.

@KitFox Hmm. My hip is pretty much okay still, but my knee is getting a little bit creaky. Does that get better soon?

It's something weird going on with the floor, I swear. I sure didn't get any taller, but it's like it's farther away.

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus maybe when you say it

Cerberus

@aediaλ Cool. When's your actual birthday?

@JohanLarsson Not when you say it?

Does Hej sound like Hey?

Johan Larsson

18:22

yep

aedia λ

@Cerberus Saturday!

Cerberus

@aediaλ Oh!

@JohanLarsson Then it also sounds like Hee.

KitFox

@aediaλ Uh, sure. We'll go with that.

@aediaλ It's the back spasms. Trying stretching backward and consciously correcting your posture.

KitFox

18:39

You'll thank yourself for it in a few years.

aedia λ

All right, all right, future self, I'll work on this whole posture thing.

But I'm totally going to keep drinking too much coffee.

Jasper Loy

@Mitch It tells you the important milestones, like leaving and arriving at a port. All math books, terribly expensive hardcovers.

@aediaλ Wow, so many birthdays this month!

KitFox

@aediaλ Please do. Just...well, you'll want to switch to decaf soon.

Jasper Loy

@KitFox But decaf doesn't give the same effect, lol.

KitFox

It's the taste, not the stimulant.

Jasper Loy

18:53

Maybe there is caffeine placebo effect too.

aedia λ

Well, it's the stimulant I want, but if I'm denied that, I'm at least going to have the taste.

Mitch

@JasperLoy Yeah, I don't get why they're so expensive.

aedia λ

I'm sure there's a pretty strong placebo effect for long-term coffee drinkers. I generally start to feel better the moment I've got the cup in my cold, tired hands, even before I've consumed enough to have any physical effect.

Mitch

@JasperLoy So if I believe I had some cofee, I'll think I'm starting to perk up?

Jasper Loy

@Mitch Well, there must be sufficient stimulus too, so imagining is not enough.

Mitch

18:57

@KitFox I've heard that mild physical exertion (like specifically, trying to stand up straight, or forcing a smile) leads to poorer scores on intelligence tests.

@JasperLoy I imagine getting punched in the face. I dodge it, but it gets my heart racing.

KitFox

@Mitch Hmm.

Cerberus

Yikes!

Mine eyes!

Yellow, really?

RegDwigнt

Great Answer impending.

When did that happen?

I left it but at 40.

KitFox

at but 40.

RegDwigнt

That, too!

I but left it at 40.

KitFox

19:12

It's a weird construction, so I thought you might appreciate the refinement.

Jasper Loy

But I left it at 40, lol.

RegDwigнt

I wonder if we are offending Jeff again.

Or if he checks the MC anymore at all.

@JasperLoy you are yellow to the extent of my not recognizing you.

Jasper Loy

He is too busy with his baby.

I think Chinese are referred to as having yellow skin.

RegDwigнt

@KitFox I am thankful alright, mostly not for the refinement, but because I am not convinced, so now I have a nice question to post during the next WB.

Jasper Loy

@RegDwigнt What is WB?

KitFox

19:14

Thought that might be the case.

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy Winter Bolympics.

It's like Super Bol, but in Winter.

So, speaking of the MC, it appears they have switched off the shuffling again.

It keeps displaying the same stuff for me.

Jasper Loy

I have a confession to make.

RegDwigнt

No wonder I came but back to see at but 100 it.

@JasperLoy "have" is such a strong word.

Jasper Loy

I think I prefer white women to Asian women.

KitFox

What?

I came but back to see at but 100 it?

RegDwigнt

19:17

He thinks he prefers white women to Asian women.

No, not you. I.

KitFox

Oh.

Ich sehe.

RegDwigнt

@KitFox !!wiki joke

KitFox

!!tell Reg wiki joke

RegDwigнt

Some Yoda Speak, too.

KitSox

@Reg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke

Jasper Loy

19:18

So, in the movie The Book Thief, instead of speaking in German, they speak English with a German accent, lol.

RegDwigнt

!!tell Kit thanks but yes thanks

KitSox

@RegDwigнt Command thanks does not exist.

KitFox

Mmm, English with a German accent is almost as good as English with a Russian accent.

RegDwigнt

Sorry Kit, no thanks for you.

@KitFox only if you're Jürgen Prochnow.

Otherwise, no. No. No it isn't.

Anyway.

I am a busy man. I only came in to play three.

KitFox

!!youtube Jürgen Prochnow

KitSox

19:19

►

Jasper Loy

I like to look at people these days. Today I went out and saw lots of beautiful women, lol.

RegDwigнt

@KitSox Old.

KitFox

Ach. Das ist Deutsch mit ein Deutschaccent.

Mitch

@KitFox e.g. taking a test while trying to sit up straight gets slightly lower scores than without that additional task.

KitFox

Cognitive load. Sure.

RegDwigнt

19:21

What if the additional task is to not sit up straight?

Mitch

@JasperLoy usually in American movies the foreign non-English accent is spoken with a British accent

KitFox

Jürgen Prochnow does not seem to have much German accent in his English.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt "Take this test, and make sure to slouch"

RegDwigнt

Usually in American movies all non-English accents are spoken with an American accent.

KitFox

giggles too true.

RegDwigнt

19:23

There is not a single movie in which anything remotely resembling Russian is spoken.

KitFox

!!youtube speaking russian

RegDwigнt

And I mean it. No exaggerations. Not a one.

Now let me play Three, willya.

KitFox

...interesting.

RegDwigнt

OMG NSFW

Jasper Loy

WTF!

RegDwigнt

19:24

@Mitch yes, that's my question. Would that make my score suffer?

Genuine question, too.

KitFox

I don't ...

Mitch

@JasperLoy and all the books written in Russian?

@RegDwigнt HUnt for Red October: Sean Connery speaks with his own native accent which is Crimean.

Jasper Loy

@Mitch I think the books in the movie are in English.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt You're asking me like I know things. I'm just repeating things I barely heard 2nd hand from somebody reading over someone else's shoulder.

Jasper Loy

It is very good that the Russians give me two sharing sites, en.bookfi.org and lib.freescienceengineering.org, lol.

RegDwigнt

19:27

@Mitch that is a prime example indeed. My wife couldn't believe me when I told her what he was saying. I showed her the movie, and she is laughing to this day.

KitFox

It's annoying in that video that he speaks Russian at people, but doesn't act like a person who doesn't speak the language.

RegDwigнt

@Mitch that reminds me.

I have a joke @Kit.

KitFox

I mean, the booty shot one I posted.

Jasper Loy

I think Russian sounds a bit like Tamil, lol.

KitFox

@RegDwigнt listens

RegDwigнt

19:28

"Kommt ein Einarmiger in einen Second-Hand-Laden."

Sure enough, I had to miswrite it.

Cerberus

Hah.

Do you write that auf English?

RegDwigнt

There's a shorter one still. Actually Kosmo knew it!

Cerberus

In Dutch, it's tweedehandswinkel.

Mitch

@JasperLoy I like the bright yellow. Livens up the place.

RegDwigнt

"Treffen sich zwei Jäger."

Jasper Loy

19:29

@Mitch Yeah, livens up myself too.

Mitch

what's an 'einarmiger'? a poor person? a one-armed person? a poor one armed person?

RegDwigнt

@Mitch the middler.

(As opposed to the former and the latter.)

Mitch

ben, en ce cas, pauvre homme.

RegDwigнt

A one-armed person enters a second-hand shop.

The one with the hunters is untranslatable, though.

KitFox

I was trying really hard, but I didn't get it.

Mitch

19:32

Ha ha. 'Enters' and 'shops'!

RegDwigнt

@KitFox "sich treffen" means both "meet up" and "hit one another".

KitFox

It might be funnier if I had any sense of what the punchline meant. I guess something to do with the one, second, and two hands?

@RegDwigнt Oh.

RegDwigнt

@Mitch Hahahahaha. "And"! Hahahahaha.

Mitch

genau!

KitFox

Oh. Oh.

RegDwigнt

19:34

@KitFox when you're one-armed, you're also one-handed. As a rule.

Jasper Loy

@RegDwigнt Even I can understand this joke.

KitFox

Oh. They are two separate jokes.

Now I understand.

Mitch

@KitFox @KitFox @KitFox. one handed, gets a second hand.

RegDwigнt

@KitFox bravo. So far that's the funniest. You're in the lead.

KitFox

Well, so you see my confusion.

RegDwigнt

19:35

It is through tears of laughter that I do.

Jasper Loy

Wow, you tear so easily.

So, this restaurant has a sign "Please allow us to seat you". I was thinking what would happen if they said "Please allow us to sit you".

RegDwigнt

Sorry, I meant "it but is through tears of laughter that I do".

@JasperLoy no, I tear so metaphorically.

KitFox

It is through but tears of laughter that I do.

RegDwigнt

You know, I don't even have to be a human to post in this chat.

@KitFox your Yoda Speak is very Yoda.

KitFox

Speak it well I do.

Similar to German it is.

Or told so am I.

RegDwigнt

19:38

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Q: How is Yoda Speak rendered in Russian? Are there easy, yet universal, rules I can follow?

Full disclosure up front: I've never watched Star Wars in Russian. Nor do I plan to. (Edit in response to comments: that is not meant as a stab at Russian, of course. It is a stab at the movies themselves. I'm just not too much of a fan. Yeah, I know, sioux me!) That being said, Yoda Speak has b...

грамматика word-order yoda-speak

Jasper Loy

I really like to hear German, I think it will be the next language I learn.

KitFox

Haha! You used the grammar tag!

@JasperLoy Ich habe itsykleiny Deustch gelernt.

RegDwigнt

@KitFox yes, and technically that's not a haha but an OMG WOW, as I used it correctly.

KitFox

Sure. Yes. OK.

RegDwigнt

I actually am asking about the grammar.

Jasper Loy

19:41

@RegDwigнt Geezis, why is yoda-speak a tag?

KitFox

And I would say that Yoda Speak also sounds poetic or archaic in English.

RegDwigнt

It's not easy to come up with a question that does.

Jasper Loy

So, I wonder what they will show in Star Wars VII.

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy mostly for two intricately interwoven reasons. 1. because I had the rights to create it. 2. because I used these rights.

KitFox

Ciao-kakao.

RegDwigнt

19:43

Oh.

Bye.

Jasper Loy

I think RegDwight and KitFox should change their user name to Reg Dwight and Kit Fox.

RegDwigнt

Oh, this is gonna be good.

Cerberus

Oh, that game.

Is it fun?

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus yes!

More to the point, quick and easy.

Cerberus

I thought it was a phone game?

RegDwigнt

19:55

Yes, but some kind person finally made a browser version.

See the starred wall.

Cerberus

Ah, I see.

RegDwigнt

It's very kurzweilig.

And I think I'm quickly figuring out the winning strategy.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt ha ha. I'm dumb, I thought that meant short and boring.

Cerberus

> Your score is 390.

RegDwigнt

Lulz.

Cerberus

19:58

I have absolutely no funking idea what I was doing.

What was I doing?

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus that's the exact right way to start!

I did that on my first try, too.

So anyway. There are two rules exactly.

Cerberus

It was like "press random buttons" → "game ends".

Mitch

what if you do well on your first try? then you'll really have no idea.

Cerberus

Indeed not.

RegDwigнt

1. You can only add a one to a two. 2. You can only add any other number to the same number.

Cerberus

19:59

Is 390 good? It's a random number.

Okay.

RegDwigнt

In other words, anything above 3 (white) only adds to itself, while anything below 3 only adds to something else below three (red to blue and vice versa).

Mitch

@RegDwigнt that's a short and boring rule.

Cerberus

Ah.

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