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00:33
@cornbread!
brushes crumbs off shirt
brushes more crumbs off shirt
shrugs, removes shirt
O_O
@Kit I've just made a rice-filled heating bag.
I got a sewing machine yesterday.
My slip stitch needs work.
Oh. Uh.
You don't slipstitch with a sewing machine?
No, you can't.
Can you?
00:41
tries to recollect slipstitch
No, you really can't.
Since it's supposed to be invisible.
Fuck it, I have a hot bag of rice on my neck.
You have to turn the thingy.
Sounds nice. I have liquor in me.
I have that record.
@KitFox Sounds nice.
I need some ibuprofen, but now I'm stuck listening to some tune.
00:43
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 There's no stumping you.
I could stump you all night long.
Shit. I really should not have emailed that client, obviously.
I mean with '60s pop tunes.
Hey Rob, I had a phone interview today.
I have an interview next week. The recruiter called me today too, almost desperate. I'm feeling smug
And kinda drunk.
feels Kit
Ah yes, smug.
00:45
@KitFox That's great!
I really hope these seams hold.
I thought you said you had a sewing machine.
Hamlet: Seams? Nay, madam, I know not seams.
I am quite unseemly.
@KitFox I do. But, like, rice.
00:47
Yeah. Zig zag. Tight.
French seams.
You know how to do that?
With tongue?
Mine makes a few flavors of zig zag.
You don't have to zigzag, you can use straight stitch for it, but you make your first pass inside the seam allowance, then fold it over the stitching and stitch again.
Tight.
Gives you a finished inside.
00:49
Damn, I miss rollies.
Weed these days is just too good to roll a whole joint.
I like those. And the long ones.
Naw, just let it go out.
Unless you are passing one around at a concert or something.
Speaking of concerts, I need to go play my piano.
00:51
Yay, go play.
Mostly I need to not interrupt nearby recording.
What are you going to play?
shrug
I figured this out a few days ago, so probably it.
The Blacklist. What happens if you serialize a popular movie about a serial killer.
Oh yeah, someone posted it here. Maybe you.
00:58
Um, I don't think so.
Oh, the other you.
The double you.
I see what you did there.
It's what U did.
I'm really nervous about this upcoming interview.
Why?
01:03
I'm not usually this anxious.
I think it is a really good fit.
It's got all the things I have been looking for, except the distance.
Just be knowledgeable, positive, and enthusiastic.
Money, power, fame, women.
Oh.
scratches off list
writes new list
01:19
Should he have fell to... vs Should he have fallen to...
Which one's correct?
@KitFox Saw your question about the ellipses. Would you like a rundown of pros and cons or just a recommendation?
Either would be fine. I don't have a position, personally.
I just would like people to not argue about it.
So I figured a community consensus would help that.
Ah yeah, that's a good idea.
Unfortunately there's no single answer that's easy to type and good typographically. Given the trade-offs, I'd have to say that the best answer is to leave it alone unless you're going to do it right and it's not the only edit you're making.
@Mr.IDon'tCare What's the whole sentence?
Seems like it ought to be the latter.
01:26
@KitFox Should he have fell to the bottom? vs Should he have fallen to the bottom?
The second one.
Should he fall to the bottom, should he have fallen to the bottom
He fell to the bottom
He had fallen to the bottom
He should have fallen to the bottom
right
I have heard some people use "fell" so I wasn't completely sure.
I can see why.
Some people use it that way, but it is not standard grammar and considered low-class.
The same people will say "should have did" and the like.
Should have done did what he should have did, is what he should have did
01:36
Night.
tips hat
01:50
@KitFox OK, I posted my answer.
02:02
@KitFox Thanks for the feedback on the narrow space. I hadn't seen an actual example of it in use, but I suspect that it has similar problems to the precomposed ellipsis character.
The bitch question is turning out to be quite popular. I'm not surprised.
You're such a curio.
Heh.
I didn't even realize that curio was a recent-ish abbreviation of curiosity.
Neither did I!
I was surprised to read it.
02:18
Yeah, it's cool when questions/answers surprise you.
02:29
Absolutely.
02:49
The narrow space? Is that something I should be using?
I personally wouldn't recommend it.
As an amateur typographer, it appeals to me, but in practice it's a pain to use and doesn't always produce desirable results.
03:14
nods sagely
03:32
0
Q: Grammar of "Back Up To"

curtainIf I write these pairs of sentences: 1a The yard backs to a lake. 1b The yard backs up to a lake. 2a The stove backs to a wall. 2b The stove backs up to a wall. Are the b-versions very different from the a-versions? What meaning does "up" add?

BST alert.
A couple of the tells are not exactly like his recent patterns, but it's a near duplicate of something he posted recently.
03:59
@BraddSzonye How do you feel about hair space?
@BraddSzonye Three times.
04:44
Hi
@MετάEd
Around?
@Noah I'm afraid so.
Cool. I was reading an answer on ELU and it said that the word trouble, when used with the present form of have , means that the problem is continuous. I dont think that's the case. *I have trouble understanding this homework. * Seems normal to me. What do you think? And it's not something continuous, but more like a temporary one time occurrence.
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A: Proper usage of the word "trouble"

Barrie EnglandNone of your examples is likely to occur as such in isolation and the exact form used would vary with context. For example, trouble can be used with the progressive form of have to produce a sentence such as ‘I’m having a lot of trouble with that.' When it is used with the present tense of have i...

@MετάEd
05:09
Were Americans tree people back in the time?
I'm listening to this song and he says "We live back in the woods you see. Big city problems never bothered me"
05:58
I really hate when I see a movie at theatre and next week you can download a high quality version of the movie on piratebay.
06:13
anyone?
is this phrase correct grammatically? I'm also little more then surprised
I'm also little more than surprised?
Yeah it is grammatically correct.
@EnglishMaster thanks
 
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10:41
posted on October 01, 2013 by sgdi

The obedient man is now cold From being sat down where he’s told He thought about standing It seemed more demanding Because it involved being bold

 
2 hours later…
12:18
Hi.
@MATT!
Hi @Cerb.
@Saladin I'm afraid this is not correct.
Hi.
@MattЭллен So. How are you?
@EnglishMaster I'm afraid you're wrong.
12:20
@KitFox I'm OK. I'm taking a week of holiday with no real aim :D How areyou?
> I am more than a little surprised.
> I am a little more than surprised.
Both of these are possible, but not what you wrote.
@MattЭллен blargh
@KitFox I hear your phone interview went well :)
Note that "I am a little more than surprised" is unusual: it would be echoing something someone else said.
I am little more than a surprised ape
12:22
Oh no
I am wrong
@MattЭллен Aren't we all?
Hmm I hear America has shut down.
for the summer?
I guess it will be a quiet day in chat.
I don't know for how long.
12:23
You hardly scared the pants off me. I am little more than surprised.
I'm also little more than surprised
That is theoretically possible, though I suspect noöne will ever really say that.
And I'm 99.999 % sure that is not what the OP was saying given the context.
@Cerberus ooo. I just read in the guardian about it. how weird
Rounded down.
Hey, which country do you think is the current most important market for most of companies?
1) USA
2) Europe
3) China
4) India
12:25
@MattЭллен It's not that terrible, I guess. The situation comes up on a regular basis...
@EnglishMaster "Important" requires defining.
@Cerberus I guess, probably once per year
I think more often.
Google "fiscal cliff"...
Although I think they usual avoid the actual shutdown just before the deadline.
@Cerberus Important consumer market?
I'm not sure if that is the correct term
What do you mean exactly?
Important in what way?
The USA is the largest unilingual and uninstitutional market (that is the suffix uni- "one").
Europe is the largest market in absolute terms.
China is the fastest growing market.
India is...I guess the largest "market" where you can get people who speak English. And it also has a lot of potential for the future.
@EnglishMaster I thought your exam is over! :P
@Cerberus What do you mean by "in absolute terms"?
12:31
@Cerberus Oh. I had no idea.
Yeah I don't have any exams left
@Cerberus Yeah, I heard about it a little. What really happened?
@Mistu4u Total GDP.
@Cerberus I see.
@Mistu4u Oh, it's not that special. Certain automated rules have gone into effect to save money on the army and on public services.
12:34
It is special. It's a big deal.
So you can't get a passport, and the army can't buy some of their new stuff temporarily.
But it will no doubt be solved soonish.
It means no government services and government employees don't get paid.
Until it's solved.
@Cerberus Whatever happens I don't care. All I care about is the upliftment of the US economy because if it does not happen our IT industry will be diminished.
It's totally dependant upon the export of services to the USA.
Well, it is already growing, I believe.
The worst of the crisis is behind us.
Hollande is pathetic btw.
12:43
why?
He was planning to leak a couple of documents with "proof" that Assad had used poison gas, with a French flag on each page, in order to make sure that France wouldn't seem to be America's lap dog.
India is really scary by the way.. I often see gang of Indian people come out of a company building to eat lunch
And later he said "I want my country to count in the world" and "I want the Syrian operation to contribute to the greatness of my country".
@EnglishMaster Where? :O
12:46
@EnglishMaster Well we are going to be the no 1 nation with highest population (current;y we are no 2 behind China). So Korea need to be scared of us :-D
@Americans: WTF, yo! signed, Canada.
Please leave us some water and food to eat
@EnglishMaster Are you from Korea?
North or South?
I'm from South. You won't ever see North Korean on Internet
12:49
@EnglishMaster Except that guy that escaped.
@EnglishMaster Why? Aren't they allowed to use?
Their internet is controlled by Kim Jung Un and they have restricted access to these websites where we can freely talk about how fat their leader is.
@EnglishMaster Whenever I talk about South Korea, I imagine Samsung to be it's logo (I could not find a better word). Let me tell you, the top level Engineers of Samsung are hired from India. might be that's why your country is flooded with Indians :-P
@EnglishMaster haha! Funny.
I don't know about that. I think they hire Korean.
@EnglishMaster I mean their is a mixture of Indians and Koreans. I never said all are Indians.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Who escaped?
12:54
@Mistu4u Every so often some people escape North Korea, go through china, and then try to reach South Korea.
It's funny how patriotic Koreans often are...
Or some other free country that won't extradite them back to NK
But it's rare.
So rare that I jokingly referred to all those escapees as "That guy"
Right!
12:55
But actually there was a woman from NK who made a Ted talk
I thought you meant a specific man that had been in the papers or something.
oh, actually there was a man who made a ted talk too
Ted is stupid.
Sorry.
12:56
@Cerberus why do you say that?
But relevant to mention, I haven't watched much Hollywood movies on South Korea. They are made mostly on North Korea. So sadly I know very less about South Korea except Samsung :-D
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Cuz.
It's usually somewhat superficial.
@Mistu4u Me too, but I don't care about Samsung
I learn more from reading a Wikipedia article on the subject...but I'm sure there are exceptions.
Samsung is just a company, it cannot buy my love.
12:58
@Cerberus Sure. It's meant to give a brief overview on interesting topics.
It can't buy my heart.
I just took the bread out of my Samsung oven. Then I used my Samsung phone. But my monitor was made by LG! So it's not all Samsung. It's just all Korea.
@EnglishMaster What if they made a better heart, that runs Android and never fails?
Can you root it?
@EnglishMaster, I know. Actually, if some foreigner is asked what comes to your mind first if asked about India, they say Gandhi. similarly, if somebody asks me about South Korea, I would go with Samsung. :-)
13:00
Control its...innards?
My monitor, TV, wife's phone, my previous phone, blu-ray player, digital-picture-frame, and several other things are made by Samsung. My work monitors are Dell so I don't know who made the insides.
@Cerberus I use Samsung phone, Refrigerator, TV and AC. :-)
@Mistu4u I really wouldn't think of Gandhi first.
NoNo, eternity might be a curse. Those android hearts might keep you alive 2000 + years but I don't want that
@EnglishMaster It doesn't keep you alive for eternity. It just isn't the point of failure anymore.
13:01
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Ah, my Lappy is HP.
@Cerberus Really? what would you say?
An Android heart by Samsung could protect your heart from evil and damaging viruses, such as love.
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@Mistu4u my computers are home-made but the mobos are both Asus. And my tablet is Asus. Samsung and Asus are my two fav tech companies these days.
@Cerberus Is love a virus? I thought more like Aspirin in your painful life.
@Mistu4u I don't know...if this is about word associations, I would say...large, Hindu, colours, IT, Taj Mahal, Delhi, maybe then Gandhi. If it's about mental images, I see the shape of the country on the map, warm colours, a woman in a bright purple dress with a yellow spot on her forehead, people sitting behind computers, Taj Mahal, cows, the Ganges...
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Asus is becoming a leading company in India. It's popularity is upping day-by-day.
13:04
@Mistu4u Thanks for using Samsung. Their products are definetely better than Sony products.
@Mistu4u Well, I guess it could be...it depends!
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Is Asus Korean? I thought it was Taiwanese?
@Cerberus That's coz you know too much :-P Actually a survey showed the result about Gandhi's popularity in foreign.
I like Asus too.
@Cerberus It is Taiwanese, yes.
@Mistu4u OK, sure. It's really personal, depends on one's own history and impressions and such.
Boys or boy's?
even more worse.
I mean I talk lilke that but I have an excuse.
See.
Gosh, this phone is a disaster.
@Cerberus Hmm.
@Mitch "even more worse"- A common mistake I used to do before. Now I say "even worse".
@Mitch Huh, what just happened?
I clicked that link and then I had a blackout where I was forced to answer the question. Everything around me disappeared from my working memory.
Look how extremely uninformative Barry's answer is btw:
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A: "This helps us how?" vs. "How does this help us?"

Barrie EnglandBy constructing the sentence in this way, the speaker strongly suggests that it doesn’t help.

That's it.
At least my answer tries to explain it.
13:17
@Cerberus Barry himself said somewhere he does not like long answer :-P
Well, that's too bad.
@Cerberus I've never cared for BE's answers. They're always correct in the academic sense (that they're not wrong), but they rarely -answer- or explain the question. He could still keep it short if he just added one extra explanatory sentence.
@Cerberus Oh that? we had someone shoot you with a tranquilizer dart, and while you where out, we took all the furniture in your apartment, attached it to the ceiling, strapped you in, then shot you with an awakening dart.
Then before you could figure it out, another tranquilizer dart, took all your furniture down and put it back in exactly the same place as before. Shot you with an awakening dart again (Sorry! that must sting!) and that's why you're a little disoriented now.
That phone shows everything that is wrong with Microsoft and their approach to Mobile. And everything, these days.
@Mitch Exactly!! It's so weird, he's like...Data from Star Trek.
oops pops out from curtain while you're not looking and swaps two books on shelf to put back into correct order
13:28
@Mitch Oh is that what happened. I didn't notice, I was too busy answering the question.
@Cerberus
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Q: Length of Questions and Answers

Barrie EnglandSome questions, and some answers, have recently been inordinately long. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to impose a maximum number of words for each, just as there is a minimum number of words for answers and comments?

@Mistu4u 'even more worser' is worse...er.
@Mitch I did not say that. :/
@Mistu4u Ah, I remember.
Some have been inordinately short. — Cerberus Jan 26 at 17:33
@Mitch grabs wrong book, writes wrong answer
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What I remember from WM 6.1 is that everything was made for desktop use / stylus, not touch.
@Cerberus The Kin is post WM 6.1
13:32
I used non-MS applications for all the basic functions, including the launcher ("Iphone Today"), contacts, dialler, e-mail, calendar, everything.
Yeah I haven't the time to watch the video, I have to leave in 10 minutes.
And I still need to put on clothes and stuff.
actually the video isn't that good. I posted before I watched. the Wikipedia article is better. Long story short: MS acquired a good phone company, made them use WinCE instead of whatever they had before, and then allowed in-fighting with Windows Phone to scuttle the project.
Ironically, the Kin could have MADE windows phone if it had been ready in time.
People who buy MS phones have been screwed time and time again when it comes to support and updates.
Hm, now that I think of it, really only Apple has been really diligent about getting updates to phones. They've done the best job of it.
@Cerberus I liked your comment at that time. I hate too short answer considering myself an English learner.

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