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12:30 AM
@Cerberus Yep, I through. It's tiny house time. Or 400 to 600 sq. ft. for old people. Whoever likes to constantly maintain a house and yard and everything in it can live here. We'll be next door watching murder mysteries and eating Hook & Ladder subs on whole wheat or some shit like that.
 
@KannE What monster invented whole wheat bread?
 
1:02 AM
@KannE You call 600 square feet a tiny house? For how many people?
My friend used to live in about 30 square metres, with her friend.
That was small.
I suppose people in the country are used to larger houses.
 
 
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3:41 AM
@Cerberus Tiny houses are up to 400 sq. ft. There's a word for houses 400 to 600...mini houses, senior cottages? I dunno. But my mid-century house is only 24' x 48' (<1152 sq. ft.); that wouldn't be considered a decent size for a double-wide mobile home here nowadays. You can't have mobile homes here per zoning, but an "accessory building" could be another whole house, bigger but not taller than the main house, and it must be set back (not beside it but not behind it either).
 
4:12 AM
Fortunately, my grandfather added 1/3 of an acre to my father's plot because...'I don't want anyone, not anyone, backing their car up on my land'...so he gave him more land. The extra third is shaped like a 3-point turn... My father was the president of the Deaf club, so...it wasn't his car. Yep, that explains a lot about me.
 
4:24 AM
@Mitch I don't know; I didn't really care for mayo before I had to start choking all that stuff down. I think I now know why dogs look that way after they chew up your sofa cushions. They don't feel guilty; they just feel sickened by the whole experience.
 
 
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6:06 AM
Word of the day: acne inversa
 
 
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8:09 AM
The man on the Clapham omnibus is a hypothetical ordinary and reasonable person, used by the courts in English law where it is necessary to decide whether a party has acted as a reasonable person would – for example, in a civil action for negligence. The man on the Clapham omnibus is a reasonably educated, intelligent but nondescript person, against whom the defendant's conduct can be measured. The term was introduced into English law during the Victorian era, and is still an important concept in British law. It is also used in other Commonwealth common law jurisdictions, sometimes with suitable...
 
Greetings, people of ELU!
By any chance, would literature.stackexchange.com/questions/11532/… be a suitable question here?
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Q: Is there a name for military abilities during a mission?

ScottFoster1000If I'm writing about a military mission or operation, what would I call the things that the military is allowed to use during a specific mission? I think I understand the idea of "terms of war" as a greater concept, but I'm curious about like if a mission is allowed to use tanks or air cover, wh...

 
@Gallifreyan It could be a or a , but the problem is that it is in need of improvement before we would consider it acceptable. We minimally need information regarding the context, including a hypothetical fill-in-the-blank sentence, and depending on who you ask, some verified demonstration showing how the questioner tried to solve the problem themselves. Otherwise we may just close it and it would be thrown back.
 
I'll forward that to the asker then
Thank you!
 
@Gallifreyan You're welcome, and not only to the thanks but to English Language & Usage, however long or short your stay may be.
 
8:27 AM
Thanks, I re-asked in writing. Please close. — ScottFoster1000 28 secs ago
Someone's gonna get some flack from Writing mods now :|
 
flack? or "smack"
some a
 
@Gallifreyan I am not entirely sure how it works, but you may want to discuss cross-posting policies with this user.
 
@RegDwigнt You have put longer videos on IGTV, right? And I do watch and enjoy them no matter how long. But you're right, it sucks to put as much effort as you do in a work and have it not deservedly appreciated.
@RegDwigнt There could be lots of advantages to meaningful decentralization of the internet (including an un-idolization of Brad Pitts of the world thru promoting smaller, maybe more talented people), but I grant you that giant social media platforms like Instagram are – you might say – committed more to distraction from meaning than to promoting meaning.
@RegDwigнt You exaggerate the size of my Instagram followership. It's a meager crowd of about 300, most of whom could care less if I exist or what I put up (including you, since, despite what you said, I have never put up a video of me playing guitar). And no video of mine has gotten anywhere near a thousand views.
But I'd be genuinely happy to promote your page in a story, if you don't mind. You'll receive no more than a few more views and one or two more followers, and they may not even be able to put a comment together in English, but still that's a few more people enjoying your tunes.
Or you might want to rightly flip the finger at Insta and stick it out with more worthwhile media like YT.
 
 
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10:10 AM
@Færd hm. Well, maybe it was on Facebook after all? Or maybe I thought it was you in the video but it actually wasn't? It certainly was posted on your account.
I remember it precisely because you always said that you couldn't play for shit, and that video was really good by any standards. And as I said, very popular. I don't remember how many likes it had, but definitely upwards of a hundred.
@Færd I don't think I will be flipping a finger at anything in particular, just segregating my content further still. But that happens quite naturally anyway.
@Færd funny story. IGTV was what actually got me on Instagram in the first place. I was following that one viola teacher on YouTube, or maybe it was the cellist, I actually don't remember. Whatever. One of them mentioned how Instagram now had this thingie where videos could be up to 10 minutes long and she was excited in expanding in that direction.
So I went and registered. Even though for the first couple months or so I would only post on the regular Insta and not on IGTV.
I dunno. They are kinda shit at getting their GUI right. It doesn't integrate well with the rest of the app. It's a completely different and very cumbersome experience for the viewer, and a completely different and very cumbersome workflow for the content creator.
I don't know why they do that. And how they still haven't fixed it after all this time.
It's literally like five buttons and other things to place on the screen. Can't be that hard to get it right. They have like what, thousands of devs? I know Twitter has had thousands of devs for years, and they can't do anything right, either.
Jonathan Blow had a great talk on that.
 
 
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12:20 PM
@skillpatrol If they did, it wasn't Antonio Brown. Can someone get him a helmet, please?
 
he had a phone conference meeting with the NFL
 
@RegDwigнt Jonathan Blow is an insane perfectionist.
@skillpatrol Now the Raiders are resurrecting the UPS slogan: "What has Brown done for you lately?"
 
:-D
also, did you see gruden's "I don't believe in dreams" speech?
 
He must be dreaming. If anything characterizes America, it's a belief in dreams. Why do you think the lottery customers never dry up?
 
Martin Luther King never gave up on his dream.
 
12:29 PM
Was his dream to have his name on a prominent street in every city in the US? Because that's how it turned out.
Anyway, gotta run. Have a great day.
 
@Robusto well. Someone's gotta do it.
 
12:55 PM
@RegDwigнt Okay I think you're talking about the setar video. It's an instrument smaller than a guitar (se-tar literally means "three strings"). I played some elementary stuff and put it out just to say "Hey y'all I've started to play too! Innit cute?". I'm probably going to do the same with the guitar in the near future. But believe me, I can play neither for shit.
@RegDwigнt Good call.
 
1:41 PM
Nachtmerrie.
A merrie is still a mare.
 
*mer- etymonline.com/word*mer-?ref=etymonline_crossreference
 
> How to better express “Dwayne Jhonson has been given more footage than Jason Statham in the movie”
Well. You could start by getting Dwayne Johnson's name right.
That'd be an improvement surely.
@Færd well yes sitar. Same difference. Same word.
And thank you for your promotion. I wouldn't even know where to begin to do a thing like that. With screenshots and all. Looks like a lot of work.
@Cerberus the merrie goes round the mare, it would seem.
 
It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit mrnati "crushes, bruises," mriyate "to kill," martave "to die," mrta- "died, dead," mrtih "death," martah "mortal man," amrta- "immortal;" Avestan miriia- "to die," miryeite "dies," Old Persian martiya- "man;" Hittite mer- "to disappear, vanish," marnu- "to make disappear;" Armenian meranim "to die;"
Greek marainein "to consume, exhaust, put out, quench," marasmus "consumption," emorten "died," brotos "mortal" (hence ambrotos "immortal"); Latin mors (genitive mortis) "death," mori "to die;" Armenian merani- "to die;" Gothic maurþr, Old English morþ "murder;" Old Irish marb, Welsh marw "dead;" Lithuanian mirti "to die," mirtis "death;" Old Church Slavonic mreti "to die," mrutvu "dead;" Russian mertvyj, Serbo-Croatian mrtav "dead."
^*mer-
@Cerberus what is a "PIE root"?
> All this is probably from PIE root *mer- "to rub away, harm"
nvm Proto-Indo-European
interesting how one idiotic remark can lead to a treasure of etymology :-)
 
3:11 PM
@RegDwigнt They're all merry.
@skillpatrol Yes!
@skillpatrol Well done!
 
thanks :-)
pal
 
3:34 PM
> One of my friends is writing a Musical, and has requested that I write the music to go with the lyrics she has written. She has also given me the melody for the lyrics. I'm struggling to come up with the chords for it. It's in A minor, but the 'sound' of the music changes for the first 4 measures to the rest of the song. Anyone have some tips for me?
Jesus Fucking Christ.
Yes I have a tip for you. If you put my name on the poster and remove yourself from existence.
 
@RegDwigнt Ooh, a professional.
I have a tip: take the afternoon off and just write the music for the musical.
 
@Cerberus If you can't write one song with the actual song given to you, how would you go about writing a whole musical of which not a note even exists until you've written it?
You can't speak in a language actively if you don't so much as passively understand it.
I just watched a clip of Audrey Hepburn speaking in five different languages. I didn't know she spoke Dutch.
But she said, in Dutch, that she lived there for eight years and studied ballet there.
@Cerberus BTW you of little faith, he has a "pro" badge next to his name.
 
3:59 PM
@Færd Lots of cultures seem to have a three-stringed instrument. Japan, for example, has the shamisen (三味線, using the kanji for "three" and "flavor" and "line or wire"). But I think the only one that can possibly puncture your spleen is the balalaika, which for some reason is triangular.
 
It's triangular because it's easier to stack that way.
 
So somewhere there are warehouses with neatly stacked balalaikas?
 
Oh I am so certain there are. So very certain.
 
Pix or it didn't happen.
 
Them's not on Google Maps by order of Putin.
Like you guys ever showed us all your banjo warehouses on Cuba. Right.
 
4:02 PM
The banjo is America's secret weapon.
 
It's a lovely instrument.
Until it explodes into your face and kills all your family and friends.
Then again who the fuck knows what the secret plan for the octobass even is.
 
Have you removed all them corks from your flute yet?
 
No, only on the left hand.
But that's a good point. I might as well do the rest.
 
@Cerberus Either that's an oequine Oedipus or someone is trying to learn to ride.
 
> This piece helps beginners learn scales with more amusement. I have similar pieces in all 12 keys if anyone is interested.
 
4:05 PM
@RegDwigнt Slacker.
 
That's the entire post. No link provided.
I see a lot of those for some reason.
People will say check out this or that and then never give it to you actually.
 
You should reply "Wait a minute ... is this John Cage?"
He likes to fuck with people, I understand.
 
Nobody would get the reference. Literally no one in the whole group.
 
That's the beauty of it.
 
Anyway, I went and checked. And sure enough the indicated fingerings in that guy's piece are so bizarre, they literally hurt my brain, and then my fingers.
I've been playing the piano for more than three decades now. This actually hurts my hands. I am in pain.
Good thing he didn't post the link.
The majority of other people won't be able to go looking for it like I did.
 
4:08 PM
@RegDwigнt practice some preventive medicine
 
@RegDwigнt What, flute fingerings?
 
@Robusto that's what I was wondering actually.
His name is something with "cello" in it.
Which is why I went and checked.
 
I know of know legitimate flute fingerings that actually hurt your hands.
 
But no, the piece is for the piano.
 
Oh, then the problem can be solved with a better piano.
 
4:09 PM
@Robusto I was kind of worrying there'd be many more than I've discovered so far.
 
@RegDwigнt Unless you can do 3 octaves and a fifth, you haven't got them all.
 
@Robusto well you jest, but lots of folks have tried to come up with ergonomical pianos.
@Robusto I can do three primas and a second.
Is that the same thing?
I don't know. I should ask on MuseScore.
 
That's where that question belongs, yes.
 
You know, we keep lamenting how proper composers like Ennio Morricone and and Nino Rota got replaced by Hans Zimmer and other button pushers.
But these people here, that's what Hans Zimmer will get replaced by.
People who don't even know how to push a button. Or what a button is.
I would say fuck this world, but the world's thoroughly fucked already. So I do not know what to say.
 
Yeah, but there will always be Ennio Morricones and Nino Rotas, no matter how much play MuseScore hacks get.
Most of my life I've pursued the exotic flowers everyone else has rushed past in search of a cheeseburger.
 
4:15 PM
I'm following Spitfire Audio on YouTube. You know, those guys with that most expensive sample library that's used in all motion pictures and adverts now.
 
> Five killed in Russian liquid 'propultion
 
They often feature this composer or that. Literally half of them have no education whatsoever. None at all. Don't know how to read sheet music, don't know how to play an instrument. These are the guys scoring our movies now.
 
Actual and entire CNN headline.
 
Being a MuseScore hack would constitute an improvement for them.
What's a propultion.
 
Keerist, when headline writers can't even spell fucking English.
 
4:16 PM
Oh so it is a misspelling.
Well. Ties into my point. We're complaining about headlines now. Wait till the headlines will have to be written by all the kids who write YouTube comments today.
 
I saw one the other day in actual newsprint where they misspelled led as lead. You know, they can't get over read and read.
@RegDwigнt Too late.
 
Well with that cleared up, I do have an additional question for 1000.
What's a "Russian liquid"
 
I dunno.
 
It's a mystery dissolved in an enigma.
 
"According to police, a local man who shot a family's dog with an AK-47 will not be facing charges." Ah, local news.
@RegDwigнt With a conundrum wrapper? Sounds like a Cuban cigar.
 
4:20 PM
Of course he won't be facing charges. He's armed with an AK-47.
Well then. Nice talking to you, but I'm invited for dinner by my neighbors in half an hour, and I gotta run down to the shops first lest I have nothing to eat tomorrow.
TTYL.
 
CYA
 
later
 
4:45 PM
> Here, we assemble the overall biomass composition of the biosphere, establishing a census of the ≈550 gigatons of carbon (Gt C) of biomass distributed among all of the kingdoms of life. We find that the kingdoms of life concentrate at different locations on the planet; plants (≈450 Gt C, the dominant kingdom) are primarily terrestrial, whereas animals (≈2 Gt C) are mainly marine, and bacteria (≈70 Gt C) and archaea (≈7 Gt C) are predominantly located in deep subsurface environments. We show that terrestrial biomass is about two orders of magnitude higher than marine biomass and estimate a
But where do fungi fit in? Are they most of the rest?
 
good question for bio.SE
very quite room
even terdon doesn't go there anymore
 
5:09 PM
Is this question okay now?
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Q: Is there a name for military abilities during a mission?

ScottFoster1000If I'm writing about a military mission or operation, what would I call the things that the military is allowed to use during a specific mission? I think I understand the idea of "terms of war" as a greater concept, but I'm curious about like if a mission is allowed to use tanks or air cover, wh...

 
5:22 PM
@Gallifreyan It might pass since we tend to be a little more lenient on S.W.Rs. so long as they aren't answerable with a thesaurus and they aren't answerable using commonly available resources. However there's a community split regarding how to interpret this closure reason:
> > Please include the research you’ve done, or consider if your question suits our English Language Learners site better. Questions that can be answered using commonly-available references are off-topic.
Many of us would insist that some form of research be included, whereas others of us might not care if there is no commonly-available-resource which is designed to provide a direct answer. The only way to please everybody would be for an effort to find an answer be performed and demonstrated by the questioner.
 
Rules of engagement (ROE) are the internal rules or directives among military forces (including individuals) that define the circumstances, conditions, degree, and manner in which the use of force, or actions which might be construed as provocative, may be applied. They provide authorization for and/or limits on, among other things, the use of force and the employment of certain specific capabilities. In some nations, ROE has the status of guidance to military forces, while in other nations, ROE is lawful commands. Rules of engagement do not normally dictate how a result is to be achieved, but...
May be relevant for you.
 
So, should I try and migrate it?
 
@Gallifreyan I think it'd be better if we had the questioner has consider some terms, consulted a thesaurus, and explained why they don't work first but @Cerberus answering in the comment may put a dampener on questioner willingness to co-operate. v_v
 
 
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7:02 PM
@RegDwigнt َUmm, sitar is the big Indian instrument and it has several played strings. It does originates from the Persian se-tar, but it's very different. This is a setar:
BTW, if you get the hang of the tools in Instagram stories, you can make fancy stories in a few minutes. So sure, np.
@Robusto I just listened to some shamisen and balalaika, and they both sound very nice! Especially the former. Bold tone.
Actually, setar, in spite of its appellation, has four strings. It used to have three until the fourth was added for chords a couple centuries ago. But they never updated the name.
 
 
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9:02 PM
@Færd the thing with balalaika is that it has three strings but two of them are tuned to the exact same tone. Not even an octave apart, unison.
So basically it's just two strings, with one of them doubled.
It's a crazy instrument.
Mostly you just use it to play tremolo as accompaniment.
It's a very specific sound color.
 
9:29 PM
@Færd I was obviously being facetious there. Alluding to the very fact that we have like fifty different words that are all the same word but mean completely different instruments. Sitar, setar, ketar, kitara, guitar, and what have you.
And even guitar itself is like a whole family of very different things. Like, not just electric vs acoustic, but like, the Russian guitar has seven strings that are tuned quite differently from the Spanish guitar with its six. Or the Spanish guitar with its ten. Or all the other guitars with whatever number of strings on them.
No idea why we call them all the same. Might as well call the cello a big guitar for all the sense that our nomenclature is making.
Which is why so many stupid people feel smart by pointing out that the violin originated from the viola. When in reality only the double bass originated from the viola, and all the other strings did not. Including the viola itself. Funny shit.
I propose that we just call instruments by numbers. Like, sitar is №12 and setar is №47 and theorbo is №518 and theremin is №712. That would really help clear things up.
You've heard it here first. Patent pending.
 
@RegDwigнt Is guitar really related to citer!
 
No, it originated from cidre.
Seriously though, even Zither is the same word.
Zither (; German: [ˈtsɪtɐ]) is a class of stringed instruments. The word Zither is a German rendering of the Greek word cithara, from which the modern word "guitar" also derives. Historically, it has been applied to any instrument of the cittern family, or to an instrument consisting of many strings stretched across a thin, flat body – similar to a psaltery. This article describes the latter variety.Zithers are played by strumming or plucking the strings, either with the fingers (sometimes using an accessory called a plectrum or pick), sounding the strings with a bow, or, with varieties of the...
Looks like a guitar to me!
Here's how you play a cello, by the way:
Only the double bass comes from the viola. Viola da gamba. The violin, the cello, and the viola (alto) all come from the viola da braccia, a completely different instrument. Hence the German word for the alto, "Bratsche".
(And actually the jury's still out whether the double bass comes from the viola or whether they're two unrelated instruments that just happen to have a few things in common. But I don't want to go down the rabbit hole too deep.)
 
9:47 PM
So...the Persian and the Greek are unrelated?
 
Or is it the sentum-kentum split?
 
This is the only viola. Everything else is not a viola and either definitely or probably not related to it at all.
@Cerberus was it a split? I wouldn't know. Sounds just like your regular replacement to me.
Like Russian replacing Bs with Vs. Because Russian is Greek and everything else is not.
So barbarian becomes varvar, and Basil becomes Vasily.
 
I don't know.
 
Glad we're on the same page, then.
 
9:49 PM
Too lazy to look up the et. of cithara.
 
Nobody cares anyway because apparently we just call things whatever.
Nobody even knows what the "clavier" in Bach's well-tempered clavier stands for.
People are funny. And forgetful.
 
I care.
I know clavier as keyboard.
From clavis.
 
Very good.
That makes like one person in the world.
 
What else could it be?
 
Everyone else thinks it means well-tempered piano.
 
9:53 PM
Pianos hardly existed then...
 
Precisely. Bartolomeo Cristofori barely existed then.
 
Clavichords did.
 
Or whatever you spell him.
 
Do you prefer Bach on the piano or on the clavichord?
 
That is not a question that makes sense to me. That is not a question that made sense to Bach, for that matter.
He liked changing the instrumentation of anything and everything he wrote.
Also, I do not own a clavichord or a clavecin. Only a clavicula clavicordialis, as O'Henry put it.
And what the hell do you even call a spinett in English.
 
9:57 PM
Uhh.
I thought spinetti were like weird pianos?
I don't know.
 
Oh it's a spinet lol.
@Cerberus a spinet is a weird harpsichord.
Or a weird something else.
A spinet is a smaller type of harpsichord or other keyboard instrument, such as a piano or organ. == Spinets as harpsichords == When the term spinet is used to designate a harpsichord, typically what is meant is the bentside spinet, described in this section. For other uses, see below. The bentside spinet shares most of its characteristics with the full-size instrument, including action, soundboard, and case construction. What primarily distinguishes the spinet is the angle of its strings: whereas in a full-size harpsichord, the strings are at a 90-degree angle to the keyboard (that is, they are...
See, Wiki agrees.
It's anything and everything for as long as it's weird.
 
I do know Right.
I like the "such as".
 
I would like to use this opportunity to remind the reader how much more sense we'd make if we just used №12 and №47 instead.
 
I do prefer Bach on the piano, at least the GBV.
 
Much more clearer.
 
9:59 PM
Wha?
 

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