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5:00 PM

But our constitution is no less real, just because it isn't like another particular constitution, i.e. the American one.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I hear that now for the hijab

Cerberus

The fact that there is nothing about weapons in our constitution, but we do have laws about weapons, doesn't mean our weapons laws are part of an "implied constitution".

Nothing is implied.

Unless you feel that all other countries should be like America.

So our King is an "implied president"?

ktm5124

Oh, I found the Latin phrase I was looking for, about laws changing.

"cessante ratione legis cessat ipsa lex" - Gratian

Cerberus

Ah, ratio as in reason?

Logos?

Well, logos can mean anything.

Reason.

It's a nice quotation.

ktm5124

Yeah, reason :)

It was expressing what someone else was saying - maybe you - that when a law ceases to be relevant it should change.

Cerberus

5:04 PM

I don't think I said that, but I don't disagree!

At least not in general.

Sometimes it's nice to have old, ceremonial laws, as long as they don't disadvantage anyone.

Like any old thing.

ktm5124

Hm.

Cerberus

Old relics can be nice.

ktm5124

What's strange is that, the 2nd amendment was also intended (to my knowledge) to enable citizens to rebel and overthrow an abusive government.

Cerberus

Like mathoms.

ktm5124

But overthrowing the US government, today, would be far too dangerous to ever consider.

So I wonder if that purpose is still relevant.

Mitch

5:06 PM

@ktm5124 Laws should be like compiled code. If the system isn't being used anymore it should turned off.

Cerberus

Yes, that sounds like a bad idea.

And very unlikely to happen.

Mitch

@Cerberus The new ones suck

Cerberus

New relics?

Firewater?

Mitch

Whiskey galore?

ktm5124

I mean, I guess the Soviets did the whole revolution thing, and it sucked, but at least it gave the illusion of legitimacy.

Maybe there could conceivably be a just overthrow of US government by the citizens. (In which case should the 2nd amendment remain?)

Tonepoet

5:08 PM

This isn't the exact printing of the book I have but here it is.

Cerberus

@ktm5124 But would they need a constitutional clause for that?

It would be like a coup d'état anyway.

Mitch

@ktm5124 I thought the whole idea of a rule based constitution with elections and checks and balances and amendments was to recognize change in order to avoid bloody revolutions.

ktm5124

I think it's in the Declaration of Independence. That the citizens have the right to overthrow the US government, but not for trivial causes.

Cerberus

@Mitch Absolutely! That's the function of democracy: without it, you cycle between corruption and violence.

Mitch

zzzzzz What? I just woke up. Were we talking about something? Food? I'm in!

Cerberus

5:10 PM

Democracy allows for peaceful, slow changes.

Tonepoet

@ktm5124 In a more express sense that's true but the second amendment alludes to it by mentioning the maintenance of a healthy state.

Mitch

@Cerberus or worse both at the same time.

Cerberus

Rather than complete overthrows and the death that comes with them.

Mitch

Singapore is doing OK I suppose.

Maybe it's the weather.

Cerberus

@Mitch Yes, state violence can go hand in hand with corruption. But I meant violence on a large scale, like in the French and Russian and Spanish revolutions.

Singapore has democracy.

Tonepoet

5:11 PM

Or rather, the security of a free state.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Cerberus

Just not much liberalism.

Tonepoet

Also commas.

Mitch

@Cerberus They seem repressive politically.

Tonepoet

I think we have an question on the main site asking about those commas.

Kit Z. Fox

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Mitch

5:12 PM

But then I don't know anything

Cerberus

@Tonepoet Do you remember the question we had about that here?

Mitch

@Tonepoet Commas are the worst

ktm5124

So, the Preamble of the Declaration of Independence expresses the right of the people to abolish an unjust government: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

Mitch

THere should be a constitutional amendment about them

Cerberus

@Mitch They are fairly illiberal, but also fairly democratic?

A good question is: can democracy survive without liberalism, as in a free society?

ktm5124

5:13 PM

But it does qualify that by saying, "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes"

Cerberus

See Turkey.

Mitch

@Cerberus In China you can do what you want as long as you don't piss someone off.

ktm5124

I was in Turkey in January :)

I visited the Hagia Sofia

Cerberus

@Mitch China has very little democracy.

Mitch

That's what is great about western democracy. You can piss people off with impunity if there's a law.

Cerberus

5:13 PM

No elected national parliament, etc.

Tonepoet

@Mitch There is! Okay, well not directly. Never,the,less, the, first, amendment, allows, me, to, do, whatever, I, want, with, them, ,P

ktm5124

From what I hear of Turkey, the government is corrupt. And they create more enemies than necessary.

Mitch

@Cerberus sorry, economically

Cerberus

Singapore is very different from China, in that Singapore has reasonably fair elections, I believe, and China does not.

Mitch

economically china is much freeer than politically.

Cerberus

5:14 PM

Neither is very liberal.

@Mitch Yes, well, it depends on how you look at it.

They have a large number of huge state-run business conglomerates.

Mitch

@Tonepoet mathematically, you have to specify syntax first before you can write your rules.

Yes, it's turtles all the way down

Cerberus

But I agree, they have more economic freedom than social freedom. But that is usually the case in countries.

Mitch

@Cerberus I've heard they are turning more towards monopolies recently.

Cerberus

@ktm5124 Fairly corrupt, like most governments. And fairly illiberal.

@Mitch Oh, more than before?

Mitch

@Cerberus I can't read Chinese but it'd be interesting to know what their blogs and tweets and whatsapp and chatrooms are discussing.

Cerberus

5:17 PM

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Q: How do the rules of English inform understanding of one of our language's most disputed sentences?

Yes, historical context is important, but forget it for a moment. Taken at face value, what does the text mean? A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Is the leading clause an essentia...

Mitch

hopefully more than too rah loo rah loo rah

Tonepoet

@Mitch I'm using astrological punctuation, rather than mathematical. =P

Cerberus

@Mitch The ones that aren't censored...

Tonepoet

Gemini Commas can end sentences like a period,,

<_<

Mitch

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Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:20 PM

@Cerberus the clause is meant to prevent the government from proactively preventing a revolution by taking away the guns. It's not meant to legitimize the revolt.

Mitch

@Cerberus Well, the too rah loo rah members of the too rah loo rah loo rah committee are the too rah loo rah loo rah yeah kind of people.

Tonepoet

What sorts of questions are appropriate to close with a pieces question mark¿?

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Said that way it sounds very intelligent but also on retrospect, a very locally legitimized patch on a problem without foresight of what it means once the constitution (that includes that piece) is set in place.

That is, any sufficiently organized country 50 years after that was written could easily have its national army put down any rebellion of self armed locals.

@Tonepoet You're just making stuff up now.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Well, historically speaking, not necessarily.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I believe you.

Mitch

5:26 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm shooting from the hip here (ha ha ha ha...)

wait, what was my point?

Cerberus

@Mitch Haha.

How did you find this?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I always wear t-shirts; my right to bare arms shall not be infringed.

Cerberus

Because of my reference to Ortega?

Mitch

I don't actually know anything but... what successful armed rebellions are you thinking of?

Oh. China.

Oh. Israel

Russia.

Spitsbergen for the Spitsbergers!!

To arms!

First, coats!

The capital of Spitsbergen is appropriately named 'Longunderwearbyen'

@Cerberus Good guess but no. It was entirely serendipitous and totally unmotivated by your mention.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 When I was a kid we had a bumper sticker like that.

whoops no it was "Support the right to arm bears" with a picture of a bear holding a rifle.

Cerberus

We think alike, it seems, then.

Mitch

5:36 PM

About Spitsbergen? I know. I know

> Even if the Office Québécois de la Langue Française has done a very good job of promoting French terminology in many technical areas, some of them are still dominated by English. For instance, a lot of Quebecois, even the non-English speakers, do not know the French equivalent for windshield, muffler, or clutch.

Look man, even I don't know those in English.

Cerberus

That's horrible!

I know windshield.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus It's not horrible. It's loanwords. That's all.

People get so upset.

Especially the Québécois.

Mitch

Technical words like that, there are so many, and they never get repeated except at the very time you need them.

Cerberus

gets upset

Mitch

"Hey hey there's a big truck in front of us! press the .. press the what is it>? that thing you press! press it... augh not that one Augghhhhhh!!!!"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:42 PM

I don't know the official French word for windshield.

Cerberus

boom

Haha.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I kinda get it. Cultural hegemony.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> "Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump. And three times [Trump] asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked at one point if we had them why can't we use them," Scarborough said on his "Morning Joe" program.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 what ever it is I just hit it with my... with my ... you know.. that thing on the front of my head... the EMT tech will take care of it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 from here

Mitch

5:43 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What was the answer?

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Wow seriously?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

boom

Mitch

haha.

Cerberus

And this Scarborough fellow is genuine?

Mitch

not

Cerberus

5:44 PM

Boom indeed.

Mitch

@Cerberus He's an ass also.

Cerberus

Or, rather, BOOM.

@Mitch Oh?

Mitch

but there's an infinity of difference of assiness between them

@Cerberus he's a 'conservative' opinionator on MS NBC ('liberal').

Cerberus

Still, one would hope that Trump's ministers, generals and other officials would be able to stop him from doing the craziest things, once he was in office.

@Mitch Oh, OK.

Mitch

But he can pout words together and ask questions that sound intelligent.

More clash reference: everybody is falling over themselves now to 'give em enough rope'

TIPS

5:46 PM

@Cerberus I think most of what Trump babbles is nothing more than a misuse of the current atmosphere.

The atmosphere after the election will change in some way.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> "What is the timeframe between his decision and when the nuclear weapons are launched"? "Joe, it's scenario dependent, but the system is designed for speed and decisiveness. It's not designed to debate the decision." -- ex-National Security Agency Director Michael Hayden.

Mitch

@Cerberus his current set of advisors on foreign policy are either immature, idiots, or too close ties to Putin. And even then Trump has troube digesting stuff he doesn't care about/won't make himself money.

Cerberus

@TIPS Yes, probably. But to what extent?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 But still, I'm sure there will have to be at least two generals who have to pass on the order.

@Mitch Still, I think it will be somewhat different once he takes office.

TIPS

@Cerberus It's going to be interesting to watch how Trump will persuade the Congress and others to make half of his plans to happen.

Cerberus

Generals and existing government staff.

@TIPS Yes; he won't.

But the question is: what could he do without their approval?

TIPS

5:51 PM

Not something that affects the globe, I'd say.

The US, however.

Cerberus

Let's hope so.

A war with Russia would be rather unfortunate.

Mitch

@Cerberus Yes, but not in the way you'd expect. There won't be an armageddon right away. Trump could easily be manipulated by external circumstances. There might be internal push-back by generals for a while, and Trump may do things that are impeachable. He might do things that are essentially out and out attempts at corruption.

Cerberus

It seems the Kochtopus has declared opposition to Trump.

Mitch

Putin likes Trump because Putin can tell how stupid Trump is and will be able to manipulate him.

TIPS

@Cerberus Back in 2011 (?), people took the "the US will attack Iran" thing way more seriously than they should've here.

Cerberus

5:54 PM

@Mitch Yes, it's very hard to predict. But I think there is a chance that most of his extreme resolutions will not come to pass.

@Mitch Yeah.

@TIPS In 2011? I don't think Obama ever wanted that?

Maybe under Bush?

TIPS

Nah, I don't remember that far.

Cerberus

Bush put Iran in the "axis of evil", I believe.

Mitch

@TIPS all signs/actions/words by US government officials were following a rhetorical track that was very similar to what was said before Iraq. So it was reasonable at that time to think it would continue in that direction.

Cerberus

But Obama never even suggested invading Iran, I believe.

TIPS

I remember it was when Obama said something like "we've got all options on the table, including the military one".

Cerberus

5:56 PM

Nor did public opinion in America ever favour invading Iran.

Mitch

luckily it didn't (or rather, it got to a threshold that was obviously idiotic)

TIPS

@Cerberus Ja, this man is the most reasonable US president of all-time.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus No but there was an election in 2012...

TIPS

Or at least, all of the 21st century.

Cerberus

@TIPS I wouldn't say that, but at least he was more reasonable than his predecessor.

Mitch

5:57 PM

@Cerberus oh. good point. Trump doesn't actually care about any of the things he's said. He's just trying to get to be president and all the financial perks that he thinks will come from it.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So...

Mitch

The presidential library... book.

ktm5124

I think Clinton has this one in the bag.

Cerberus

@TIPS Yes. Easy choice...

TIPS

@Cerberus Dead presidents are irrelevant to a teen like me. :P

ktm5124

5:57 PM

Obama's speech at the DNC supporting her was truly riveting.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus so if Iran is a big problem, and the republicans win the 2012 election, then they can invade.

ktm5124

"There isn't any man or woman, not me, not Bill, who is more qualified than Hillary Clinton" (paraphrase)

Cerberus

@Mitch Yes, sort of. By the way, all candidates promise bigger things than they deliver...

@TIPS Awww.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@TIPS The Bushes are still alive...

Mitch

@TIPS what's funny about that is that it didn't work. the Mongols conquered China easily.

Cerberus

5:59 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh OK, so you mean they were afraid of some speech given by someone other than the president?

TIPS

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 But they're not in the game.

Ask Iraq

Cerberus

@Mitch Well, not easily.

Mitch

@TIPS It's all about the benjamins

Cerberus

The southern Song held out for a very long time.

Mitch

wait..he was never president

TIPS

6:00 PM

@Mitch Not China, but the wall.

So let the US make a wall, so it'd be conquered easily.

That would leave the rest of the US to be conquered harder.

Mitch

@Cerberus yes, but (to use infinities again) his promises are an infinity less reliable than your average lying bastard politician.

TIPS

And that must be giving a feeling of confidence.

Oh wait.

The US is already conquered since 2014.

ktm5124

Politico fact-checker gives him the highest frequency of "Pants on Fire" false remarks.

Cerberus

@Mitch So the threat of his extreme promises is even lower?

ktm5124

Trump's comments are at 76% mostly false or worse. nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/…

Mitch

6:03 PM

@Cerberus OK fine. so it wasn't all of China. China wasn't all of China until maybe Tang or Sui

ktm5124

Hillary, Obama, Bernie and Bill are all below 30%.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't think either the public opinion or the Republican Party really favoured invading Iran? They had learned their lesson, sort of.

TIPS

@ktm5124 He should try harder, really.

ktm5124

@TIPS His entire campaign is based on false remarks. Fearmongering.

Cerberus

@Mitch They did conquer the southern Song, after 70 years. It just wasn't "easy".

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:04 PM

@Cerberus hypothetically speaking

Cerberus

Well...

ktm5124

@TIPS Any politician whose campaign is based on fearmongering has to settle for dishonesty.

TIPS

@ktm5124 Effective. How else would he have knocked out hardened politicians?

You run a TV show? Then use your skills to win.

ktm5124

@TIPS It's definitely effective, although the Republican candidates were lightweight politicians, compared to the likes of Hillary or Obama.

@TIPS I think it is clear this election season that the Democrats have higher calibre politicians than the Republicans.

Mitch

@Cerberus well, like with everything a leader doesn't necessarily do anything but tries to give direction and approves after the fact laws and activities his presence is a motivator for. So if someone in congress proposes a bill to make a wall and the senate votes it into law..Trump would totally sign it.

TIPS

6:05 PM

And what do people that run TV shows do best? Motivate and make feel insecure.

Mitch

but the senate probably wouldn't do that.

TIPS

@ktm5124 Mhm

ktm5124

@TIPS Trump was able to bully Rubio and Jeb Bush. But Michael Bloomberg, self-made New York billionaire? Heck no. Bloomberg kicked Trump's butt.

@TIPS Hillary Clinton? Heck no. She's leagues smarter than he is.

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Mitch

@Cerberus Oh. I thought it was split.

TIPS

6:06 PM

OK OK done with the multiple pings.

ktm5124

@TIPS Bill Clinton, the Rhode Scholar and former US President? No.

TIPS

Would you stop pinging me already?

ktm5124

Owch. Rejection.

That hurt.

TIPS

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Heh.

I wish I could vote to migrate to ELU. :P

tchrist

@ktm5124 He is now and forever the forty-second president of the United States.

ktm5124

6:09 PM

@tchrist I think he is a very smart man. A lot of people think he's the best public speaker among US presidents.

Cerberus

@Mitch So things things would be a huge change. But how about Trump's own initiatives as a president?

What dangerous things could he do without congressional approval?

ktm5124

Electing supreme court justices.

Rather, appointing*

Cerberus

I think he would do fewer dangerous things than he now promises to do.

ktm5124

Some of the worst damage he could do would be in the Supreme Court.

Cerberus

@tchrist Not he...please...

ktm5124

6:11 PM

@Putin His ties with the Russians are alarming.

Cerberus

@Mitch I have to admit I had to look it up after my first comment about the Song...but they did eventual conquer the Song, in 1279, after ca. 70 years of conquest.

ktm5124

Haha. That was a slip.

Cerberus

Hah!

Watch out, he may have heard you there.

ktm5124

Cerberus I meant to address you. But instead I addressed Putin.

Cerberus

Because you atted him.

Oh, jolly.

ktm5124

6:12 PM

Hope you don't mind the comparison.

Cerberus

I am but flattered.

tchrist

@Cerberus Subtract whatever you will from infinity, yet nothing changes in the numberless infinities to which our scattered bodies would surely go.

ktm5124

I mean, I always thought you were intending to annex parts of Europe.

@tchrist Unless you subtract infinity.

Cerberus

Who wouldn't want to look like this?

ktm5124

@tchrist Actually, I was wrong.

TIPS

6:13 PM

@ktm5124 Are three-heard wolves the Putin of hell?

ktm5124

@tchrist Infinity - infinity is indeterminate.

Cerberus

@tchrist You keep dreaming. I'll await you in the end.

ktm5124

@TIPS Well, as we know, Cerberus is a three-headed monster, so Putin is only one of those heads.

Stalin would be another. I'll let you choose the third...

I suppose the collective injustices of the KGB would be the third head of our friend Cerberus.

TIPS

@ktm5124 They must be Putin, Borris Johnson, and Trump.

ktm5124

That works too.

Cerberus, which characterization do you prefer?

TIPS

6:16 PM

I love how the spellchecker thinks "Borris" is wrong.

Cerberus

That would be nice.

@TIPS Because it is wrong?

TIPS

Oh hell.

I misspelled it. Twice.

Meh, I don't feel like editing them.

@Cerberus Also Gill Bates, Steve Professions, and Parry Lage.

Any references to one now-dead person and two geeks in unintentional.

Cerberus

6:37 PM

Hah.

TIPS

*are

facepalm I didn't even type "is".

All my days are typoey, but some days are more typoey than others.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

better typo-y than typhoony

Cerberus

*typoier

MετάEd

Ech. Drama.

Cerberus

Drama where?

What did I miss?

TIPS

6:43 PM

What did I miss?

Dammit @MετάEd, you made me feel like I'm losing my touch.

Unless it's on ELU.

I'm not monitoring ELU ATM.

MετάEd

Drama in my family. But if the shoe fits ... :-)

Cerberus

Ow.

That sucks.

Is it annoying, or truly devastating?

TIPS

@MετάEd Oh, I'm not monitoring that either.

MετάEd

@Cerberus Today it's not devastating.

TIPS

So it's more than a one-day thing?

That's bad.

Cerberus

6:49 PM

@MετάEd But it will be?

Or it fluctuates?

You don't have to talk about it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

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wow I totally missed that

Cerberus

Aleppo is covered in the smoke of burning tires, in order to block the sight of the bombers.

Apparently, the all-penetrating stench is better than the bombings.

Truly saddening.

Tonepoet

@ktm5124 Eeeh, I saw it and I couldn't believe it really. I doubt Barack Obama would be saying that if he could run for another term. I mean after all, if he didn't run in the past two elections, Hilary Clinton probably would've been the U.S.A's. President already.

Maybe Barack means he and Bill Clinton aren't more qualified because they can't run for any more terms. =P

MετάEd

7:10 PM

@Cerberus Hope not. We've had too much devastation already.

Mitch

@Tonepoet no he meant praise for Hilary, that she has the best resume ever for anyone running for president, that's all. (actually GHWBush was similarly experienced).

@Cerberus You're kidding, right? And that picture is after photoshopping

Cerberus

@MετάEd Yikes.

I hope the situation will improve as much as possible.

@Mitch No, I'm super serious. Super models have nothing on him.

Mitch

@Cerberus facts aside (ha ha ha ha), the point was that the walls didn't stop them. Or the Himalayas towards India. Or the thousands of miles of boring flat swampy or piney land to the west.

@Cerberus He has nothing on himself. Literally. Put a shirt on dude.

Cerberus

Yes, I know.

It was a minor point.

I just couldn't help myself.

@Mitch I knew you'd say that!

ktm5124

@Tonepoet I think he meant that she's more qualified now than he was 8 years ago, and more qualified now than Bill was in 1992.

Mitch

7:17 PM

but that's the whole point of chat, to get mired in minor points of minor points.

@Cerberus I'm pretty sure I'm a bot. Or is it you that's the bot?

ktm5124

@Mitch I think you are both bottoming into absurdity.

Cerberus

I think we're two bots stuck in a botloop.

@ktm5124 You are too kind.

Mitch

@ktm5124 if you want to reply to a particular message of someone, in order to maintain the track of the thread, click the left down button on that particular message and choose 'reply to this message'

TIPS

@ktm5124 Welcome to ELU chat

ktm5124

@Mitch that

Mitch

7:20 PM

@ktm5124 I personally am clawing my way back to coherence, kicking my boots in the faces of wretches just below me.

@ktm5124 Thank you

ktm5124

@Mitch That is so bot-like of you.

Cerberus

I used to have this userscript that let you select a message to reply to through alt-up.

Mitch

@ktm5124 See? Toldja.

May 27 '14 at 17:01, by Mitch

@Andy also, you know you can be more precise in your responses by clicking the down arrow to the left of a message and clicking on 'reply to this message'.

There's more.

@Cerberus We haven't repeated ourselves yet...

Cerberus

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53 secs ago, by Mitch

@Cerberus We haven't repeated ourselves yet...

Mitch

nice...only a few seconds more for repeats

Cerberus

7:24 PM

Etc. ad infinitum.

You can still edit your message to quote mine.

Mitch

You need an AHK script to do that for you. Or since you're a bot, javascript

Cerberus

No, it's simple.

By hand.

Mitch

ran out of time on mine

Cerberus

Aww.

Post the link to another message.

Edit your message, but don't change anything, just press enter.

Repeat.

Mitch

It's a gift

Cerberus

7:27 PM

Weren't you taught in your initiation rites?

Kids these days.

I have to run, literally.

Bye!

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox So for this Moderator Election, are there any issues which should be discussed? Need for cannon fodder? VB scripting skills?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I think we should only elect moderators who are Force-sensitive and have caught all the Pokemon

Tonepoet

I think our moderator should be able to recite the whole O.E.D. 2nd Ed., while pogo-jumping backwards.

TIPS

@Tonepoet and feeding a frog in a pond in the meanwhile.

Tonepoet

Either he'll have to recite it from memory or be a very skilled reader. =P

ktm5124

7:36 PM

There will be two parties in the election of a moderator. The human party and the bot party.

TIPS

Yay parties!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Of course, any moderator candidates must be able to prove Fermat's last theorem, name at least two Ferengi laws of business, and explain the necessity of the icing rule in hockey

Moderator candidates will not be required to explain the Trump presidential bid as that defies explanation

TIPS

And name the first three thousand highest voted meta.SE and two hundred meta.ELU questions.

Tonepoet

I like the universal resource locator for this question.

TIPS

Shit!

Tonepoet

7:49 PM

~~Okay, where's the toilet?~~

I mean, what's the matter?

TIPS