@DanBron It's not worth trying to parse. one comment made a joke about meds. If the OP is serious, and his comments lead to that, then I am actually concerned medically for the OP.

The comments didn't do much in the way of clarification, though

@ktm5124 We're all men here, so we're okay for now. ;)

Amazingly, the question has actually been edited to fix mistakes in the ramblings...

But he's not a bot, and there is some thematic sense, but he has logorrhea and trouble keeping on topic. also a big rush of words that he can't stop.

@Færd You shouldn't assume that.

That's what I often stand accused of, but I'm as talkative and composed as the famous Norwegian Blue that's pushing up daisies compared to that.

Also, I'd say that most of the things that could be considered rude in mixed company (both men and women present) would be also rude in single sex company.

I was joking, but yes, I shouldn't. And I don't.

@oerkelens there's being excited and talkative, and then there's mania

@Mitch I actually find that a difficult problem.

@Færd but also, I didn't find any of that rude at all. we're just talking about where things came from, not judging things.

@Mitch I feel much better now about my own ramblings...

@oerkelens i think the only rambling I can imagine ever seen of yours may have been an answer on ELU...do you think that is right?

@Cerberus Oh, which problem?

I think there are some things that people only feel comfortable speaking about in single sex company, sure, but rudeness is another thing.

@oerkelens If so, then if you have written copiously, you've at least written coherently (if I remember correctly)

@Mitch If you're in a certain group, jokes are bound to come up that contain negative stereotypes about "others". It's human nature, and a civilised group will see them as what they are: jokes, not actual opinions.

But they may give a bad impression upon outsiders, who cannot know that the jokes are 0% serious.

How should we deal with this?

@Mitch On ELU I tend to be verbally quite well-behaved. Some of my friends and colleagues would not remember ramblings slightly closer to the question at hand, especially when spoken. Coherent it may be, but not necessarily easily understood by the audience.

But then again, that's what they say :P

@Cerberus We should deal with it by telling me some of these jokes. I'd like to know!

@Mitch There are actually subjects I prefer to keep in (rather private) mixed company.

@oerkelens as in not to just a single sex group?

@oerkelens Hilarious! 'Incisive Point'!

@Mitch Actually, yes. For instance quite some aspects of sex itself I'd rather indulge in in mixed company (and preferably in a small group of say, two people...)

That reminds me of a risqué joke.

The one I was going to tell yesterday.

But didn't.

@DanBron Heh. It could: it changes ghäder from unreliable to powerful for example. But that happens in Arabic, not Farsi.

Why didn't you? Was it a mixed group?

I think this will only expedite the closing of my post, but it did feel good:

Uptight morons.

Suspender wearing pigs.

hey

hi everyone

Do you think I should remove my update?

Probably immature.

Maybe a Meta discussion.

I softened my update.

@Faerd Do you know Arabic?

@ktm5124 Remove what update?

I made a rant about subtle discrimination against low rep user. I removed the rant.

I'm in a tug-of-war with several people in my "catalogue" thread.

Basically, I showed how the etymology of "catalogue" elucidates the word. But I was accused of etymological fallacy: the claim that etymology leads to meaning for every word.

I should be able to focus on a single case without being accused of generalization. This is like getting into a logic argument with a toddler.

If I say that "4" is a perfect square I'm not saying that every integer is a perfect square, but that's exactly what @Colin Fine is claiming.

@ktm5124 about your 'catalog' question? That question is not well suited to the main site. Probably better to ask here where we can screw around with it. It's too speculative a question. 'Is this good?' just doesn't work well on ELU.

I'll definitely keep that in mind.

I actually found this "chat" as a result of my frustration: I wanted to vent about my theory of discrimination on ELU.

There needs to be a Civil Rights Act passed on ELU that protects the rights and dignity of users with <1k ...

discrimination? I don't doubt it but wonder what you mean.

hey

I think that high rep users pick fights with low rep users, and nitpick the posts of low rep users.

I need help very quickly

it is about a phrase

@ktm5124 Colin was right. You said: X means Y because that's what it's greek etymology says it should be. And that is pretty clearly a literal etymological fallacy. Catalog means something related to but not the same as the original. Yes, the etymology can explain the nuances of a word that we are using vaguely, but the etymology doesn't make the modern definition.

@ktm5124 Yeah, I see that.

BUt with the qualification 'nitpick needlessly'

Well, there was only one sentence in my post that could be construed as fallacy. "I personally think so, as the word derives from the Greek καταλέγω, which means to 'recount, to tell at length, or make a list'"

some nitpicking needs to be done to get people to use the sight well. which newcomers aren't always able to do.

Whether the thought process in that sentence is fallacious... I think the jury is out.

I got two put on hold blocks on my two last posts

@ktm5124 Answer to your OP: "Yes, you're using it the word 'catalog' fine"

and I understood the message

:)

got two upvotes on one of them

and five put on holds

:)

I agree with the qualification, needless nitpicking.

Mitch can I ask for a question please

ask for help not a question

i guess it's too late

tomorrow is a new day

It is hard as a newcomer or NNS to know how to ask a good question. We get a lot of poorly formed questions here that are just exacerbating. And the lessons learned from those drive-by single shot 'gimme the answer now' questions by 1 rep users are maybe rubbing people the bad way.

@RejlanGivens tomorrow is always another day.

I understand that

but put on hold blocks do not help anything

and often they are not warranted at all

but okay

Can I ask a question here Mitch

I remember my first few posts and how soul defeating were the comments, but then I figured it out.

okay

I think that this forum is the best on the net

@RejlanGivens you can, always, I may be off for a couple minutes, but then maybe back on pretty soon.

ok

so don't rely on me, others may be able to respond

I'd like to know if I can say Report on works performed at the Oil terminal

I'm not sure if "works" work here

and if the whole phrase is established way of saying that

okay

that was my question

I haven't been following all the context you've been giving here so I'm not sure.

Is this a title or header of a section in a document?

"Report on work performed at the Oil terminal"

...would be slightly better.

it is that too but I was asking which phrase is established in business

for summaries of work performed at some place

Having never had to write such a report I can't be very trustworthy in claiming that it is an 'established' way of saying it, but my title sounds natural to me.

thank you Mitch

great Mitch thank you for the help

What do you mean by 'work'?

I mean all business operations pertaining to oil business

core operations but also administrative work etc

day to day, all the workers doing their expected thing? or special projects, new buildings being built?

it should be a summary of works

the former

day to day operations

and also Mitch

Another way of saying it might be 'Report on operations at the terminal'

how established in english is the plural "works"

to refer to operations like that

are you writing this for an English audience? Or translating?

translating

not exactly my field of expertise

this plural is bothering me in this context

@RejlanGivens even the slightest change can make a big difference. Or it may make no difference at all. depends on the circumstances.

can't be sure how it sounds

agree

'works' works fine in your original.

thank you

can I ask one more and I won't bother you anymore for now

Under some contexts, it is a little metaphorical. (may refer to gears/innards of a machine vaguely, or it may mean for a hamburger 'give me the works' means put everything on it, lettuce pickle mayo etc.)

just 'work' is very literal.'what is being done'

that will do then

Ok I'll ask one more so if you are not bothered

I used operations because it means what everybody is doing, admin, engineering, labor, etc.

I understand

exactly what I needed to know

the disambiguation between these three

i'm not bothered but wil lbe away from keyboard for a few moments. go ahead and ask and maybe someone else will answer

ok

I'll ask then

there is a part about performing tests for gases

tests are done to check if there is risk of combustion

I'm not sure if that procedure has a standard name in English

and what the term would be for conducting measurements for the presence of gases in the air

I was thinking, Inspection for gases or Testing for gases

but I couldn't google out any of those two phrases

both inspection and testing sound ok on their own but I'm not sure how they sound in this context

@RejlanGivens I'm sure there is a standard phrasing, one that everybody in the industry used. But I am not in that industry. So I couldn't really say. Your suggestions make sense, but I have no idea if that's what people really say

thank you Mitch

one general phrase more please

just came up in the text

agreed-to facility

can i say that for the accomodation on the work site

which has been mutually agreed

@ktm5124 I know some Standard Arabic (MSA, CA). Different varieties of the language spoken across the Arab world differe rather significantly from Standard Arabic and from each other - I don't know them.

@ktm5124 There are a few hardliners on ELU who espouse one-sides dogmata.

Pay them no heed.

I mean, to some extent they have a point, but all in moderation.

Etymology can be important; there are enough respectable theories about that. But the hardliners see only a straw man and attack it immediately.

@Arrowfar Woof!

@Faerd That's really cool

It

It's my understanding that Arabic comes from Aramaic, which was one of the languages used to write the bible... But I might be wrong.

@Cerberus I'm a little envious that you know both Greek and Latin. Do you have a favorite of the two?

@ktm5124 I'm better at Latin.

People usually like that which they are better at.

I read a great quote in Latin today

Amantium irae amoris integratio - Terence

Lover's quarrels are love's renewal

Another good one from GB Shaw

-> Youth is wasted on the young.

Youth is wasted on the immortal.

@ktm5124 Ahh. Not bad.