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user227867

8:00 PM

I just changed my gmail theme to mustard and my desktop to orange.

user227867

The French R = German R = guttural R = voiced uvular fricative still eludes me.

user227867

To be sure, I would need confirmation from an expert native speaker in person.

user227867

I have been practising it for a while but I don't know if it is correct, and there are different dialects with their variations too

user227867

In some dialects, supposedly they even pronounce this R like the Italian rolled one.

user227867

But that's not how it is done in Paris and Berlin.

Mitch

8:04 PM

@KitZ.Fox Say it with a terrible French accent. Then afterwards 'hon hon hon'.

user227867

I think Ich liebe Dich sounds extremely beautiful. The ch in particular.

Mitch

@WillHunting Only super fancy German orators trill their r's. No one in their right mind does it when speaking as a normal person.

Kit Z. Fox

@Mitch Oh, now I hear it.

Mitch

fancy German orator -> not normal or not in right mind

@KitZ.Fox It's only funny because it is supposed to be a joke and it's funny to think it's a joke.

like dad jokes

user227867

I don't understand jokes. I am the joke.

tchrist

8:09 PM

@WillHunting Keep it clean.

user227867

I would like to share that among all the free authoritative dictionaries I checked online only Merriam Webster gives the word jaspery as an adjective.

Andrew Leach

@WillHunting But you're not Jasper at the moment. Although you are a rather fetching blue (very rare for jasper).

Anyway, -y is productive.

user227867

@AndrewLeach I was surprised to find that Leech is a last name as well, not only your Leach.

Andrew Leach

Yes. That one comes from doctors; mine is apparently from tanners.

user227867

Interestingly, Geoffrey Leech, Geoffrey Nunberg and Geoffrey Pullum are three linguists!

Andrew Leach

8:14 PM

Well, two of them are.

user227867

Oh.

user227867

Sorry I am not careful with my facts in chat. =)

Andrew Leach

One of them is an opinionated wotsit insisting that he's right and the world is wrong.

user227867

Interestingly, John Lee, John Walsh, John Horton Conway, John Bligh Conway, and John Nash are five mathematicians!

Mitch

@AndrewLeach For which value of one?

all of them haha

I don't know of any of them except for Pullum

Andrew Leach

8:17 PM

Well, as he's still alive, it would be imprudent to identify him.

user227867

@AndrewLeach Wait, now I know that was a joke. I did not know at first. =)

Mitch

@AndrewLeach No names!

or pointing out in a line up.

Andrew Leach

Indeed. You would have to pull it out of me, kicking and screaming.

user227867

Interestingly, George H W Bush and George W Bush and George Washington are presidents.

Mitch

@AndrewLeach Yuck. I'll pass then

@WillHunting Yeah. It's totally messed up.

it's esthetically displeasing to have repeats like that.

user227867

8:21 PM

Therefore, all Georges are presidents, all Johns are mathematicians and all Geoffreys are linguists. QED.

Mitch

adams, harrison, roosevelt. bush ...

@WillHunting all the rest are exceptions

user227867

@Mitch All the rest are exceptions except for all the rest.

Andrew Leach

@WillHunting Great. What am I?

Mitch

@WillHunting I take exception to that

user227867

I looked up how to pronounce Geoffrey. Seems it is the same as Jeffrey.

user227867

8:24 PM

And Geoff is the same as Jeff.

user227867

Now I can accept Geoffrey as a name, but Godfrey? Is it pronounced as God Free? As in Godfrey Harold Hardy?

user227867

G. H. Hardy

Godfrey Harold "G. H." Hardy FRS (7 February 1877 – 1 December 1947) was an English mathematician, known for his achievements in number theory and mathematical analysis. Hardy is remembered also for his 1940 essay on the aesthetics of mathematics, A Mathematician's Apology, and for mentoring the brilliant Indian mathematician Srinivasa Ramanujan. == Overview == G. H. Hardy is usually known by those outside the field of mathematics for his essay from 1940 on the aesthetics of mathematics, A Mathematician's Apology, which is often considered one of the best insights into the mind of a worki...

user227867

This is a great mathematician. He died.

Mitch

@WillHunting Now can you accept the name?

user227867

@Mitch I would not be surprised if someone told me Godfrey is pronounced as Jeffrey too, since English is so strange

Mitch

8:28 PM

@WillHunting Did you finally see the Ramanujan movie?

user227867

@Mitch Yes, it was terrible terrible

Mitch

@WillHunting I din't think it was terrible. Just too slow. Well, maybe bad. But terrible? or terrible terrible? It's not the excrecence that Star Wars I or Star Trek were.

I recommend 'Thing Explainer'.

user227867

I watched Mirrors. I am going to watch Mirrors 2. So scary lol

Mitch

It's a picture book With a few words. And the words are intentionally easy. Teaches you how to make an atomic bomb. er... 'machines for burning cities'

user227867

There is actually a movie called Brexit lol

Mitch

8:32 PM

@WillHunting Have you seen Memento?

Have I asked you that before?

user227867

@Mitch Nope.

user227867

@Mitch No idea.

Mitch

@WillHunting it's a comedy

user227867

I like The Beach, starring Leo Di Cap

user227867

I think I am going to watch Teen Beach and Teen Beach 2 lol

Mitch

8:33 PM

The first half is really great. The second half is depressing

user227867

Many misspell memento as momento and millennium as millenium

Mitch

I never misspell those because I never spell them in the first place.

except for the movie.

then I get it right.

user227867

Manifolds make many mathematicians make mistakes.

Mitch

Many folds make many origamists make mistakes

user227867

Ask and Andrew acts as an actor.

tchrist

8:37 PM

What's that in OSV? Or is it already?

user227867

Bow before bees before being bitten.

user227867

Count coins cos cashiers cannot cut change.

user227867

Dinosaurs drag donkeys down dirt.

user227867

Are we going to get to Z?

MetaEd

Eventually.

user227867

8:44 PM

Zoo zebras zig zag.

user227867

phew

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Zany zebras zip zippers

MetaEd

F through Y feel left out.

user227867

LOL

user227867

That was brilliant

user227867

8:47 PM

@MetaEd You just made the most brilliant joke of all time in SE chat with 'eventually' =)

MetaEd

I'm not even a contender.

tchrist

9:36 PM

I pity dyslexics having vigenary troubles.

Matt E. Эллен

I pity oenologists having vinegary troubles.

tchrist

10:02 PM

Why are the Illuminati so hard to spot on ELU?

@MattE.Эллен No, that's what happens when you leave your coconut macaroons too long in the cellar.

Thelyphonida

Thelyphonida is an arachnid order comprising invertebrates commonly known as whip scorpions or vinegaroons (also spelled vinegarroons and vinegarones). They are often called uropygids in the scientific community based on an alternative name for the order, Uropygi (which may then also include the order Schizomida). The name "whip scorpion" refers to their resemblance to true scorpions and possession of a whiplike tail. "Vinegaroon" is based on their ability when attacked to discharge an offensive liquid which contains acetic acid, producing a vinegar-like smell. == Taxonomy == Carl Linnaeus first...

> "Vinegaroon" is based on their ability when attacked to discharge an offensive liquid which contains acetic acid, producing a vinegar-like smell.

I know people like that.

Rotteneggaroons notwithstanding.

Matt E. Эллен

@tchrist no more macaroons for me!

tchrist

10:18 PM

@MattE.Эллен Well of course: your macaroons are normally found only in long-buried Pictish encampments north of Hadrian's Wall.

But those ones they spell Mac O‘Runes.