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1:00 PM

@MattE.Эллен Also, I have an AutoHotKey macro that randomly picks items to respond to so it looks like I am responding or making sense. Sometimes it is spot on, other ties it looks random, but sometimes, you can't tell_

@Arrowfar: I have to warn you that things done in the name of Islam have drastically damaged the world perception of all Muslims around the world. Everytime ISIS burns a pilot alive, or a gang of murderers assassinates the editorial board of a magazine, it is only natural for people to identify those atrocities with the religion the people who commit the acts say they are promoting.

"Only natural" might be pushing it a bit. I am quite capable of distinguishing between Jews and Israel, for example. I don't ascribe the crimes of the state to the entire religion. Same goes for groups espousing fundamentalist interpretations of the Qur'an.

@Robusto what about all the killings done 'officially' by individuals who happen to be Christian or British or 'democratic' or people with two eyes or whatever?

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch that's a clever ruse.

@MattE.Эллен I know! Because AHK is crap.

user116848

1:02 PM

@Robusto I know. That is the exact reason I have waited over a year so say all that. There are bad so called muslims too, no doubt. You can swear at those, of course.

@Mitch I'm not going to get into who did what to whom over the millennia. I'm just saying that right now, today, the cause of Muslims is being damaged, rather than promoted, by the terrorist acts perpetrated in the name of Islam.

there's an xkcd about this.

user116848

I hate fanatics and terrorists.

Also probably an I Love Lucy episode.

@Robusto why are you telling me that?

Go tell that to the OP.

Why are we even having this conversation.

1:03 PM

@Mitch Man, you really know how to drop the level of a conversation :)

user116848

It is just that when Muslims in general are being picked on, my blood pressure rises :)

@RegDwigнt If the foo shits, wear it.

I am not wearing anything.

@terdon I bet you're a TV non-believer. To that I say Pfft

@Arrowfar Well, yes, that's understandable. I kind of feel the same way.

1:04 PM

Sorry, I have a lisp

@RegDwigнt Um, just as we suspected.

user116848

I mean not all of us are out there to hurt people. It is sad to read such stuff.

I meant Pfft.

I made a point and now you treat me like a noob for no reason.

wow, I can't even type it right

1:04 PM

Is today the International Noob Day?

user116848

@terdon thanks terdon. Much appreciated.

Cuz I am not wearing anything for the occasion.

@RegDwigнt Geez, since when did you get so thin-skinned?

Since I stopped wearing additional layers of fabric on top of said skin.

Try it yourself, you'll be there in no time.

@Arrowfar People are idiots

user116848

1:06 PM

@Mitch yeah

@Arrowfar To be honest, it really bugs me that most people in the West think that the Wahhabis represent the entirety of Islam.

which is to say that individuals who act like that are idiots, which turns out to be everybody.

They're just a small, but sadly active, bunch of fanatics who are misrepresenting a religion which, like most of the popular ones, is actually based on peace and love.

@RegDwigнt Nope. too cold.

Exactly what I'm saying.

1:08 PM

TIL that.. wait, I learned it yesterday..

@Mitch On behalf of idiots everywhere, I resent that remark.

@Arrowfar you should be working in advertising.

user116848

@terdon Yeah

user116848

@RegDwigнt Heh!

Actually, what do you work in @Arrowfar?

1:09 PM

Speaking of advertising, what a dud ending for Mad Men, yeah?

@Robusto what? you really think that the integral of e^(-x) dx = pi^2/6 ?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@terdon I think it's a myth that most, or even any, of the popular religions are based on peace and love.

user116848

@terdon I am studying to be a Chartered accountant.

user116848

But I might not reach there.

@Mitch I don't concern myself with integrals.

1:09 PM

@Arrowfar Oh, man, please tell me you are familiar with Monty Python then :)

user116848

I mean papers are kinda tough.

Nobody would ever say "I love fanatics and terrorists", just like nobody would ever say "we use the worst ingredients for our beer". And yet, whenever someone says "I hate terrorists" or "we use the best ingredients", everyone buys it.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Which reminds me, I'm glad that the muppet show is coming back to TV.

Chartered Accountant by Monty Python.mp4

user116848

@terdon Yeah heard of it. But here we use all the IFRS and other accounting standards in studies.

1:10 PM

@Robusto wha, it ended?

@RegDwigнt unless they're my kind of fanatics.

@terdon Is Chartered Accountant the British version of CPA?

user116848

@Robusto Yeah

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@terdon That was a close one, you almost jinxed yourself

1:11 PM

@Robusto No idea. Them's all uncharted waters to me.

*unchartered

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I move fast!

The screenshot looks exactly like the one from the argument clinic.

For most values of exactly.

@RegDwigнt Sunday night.

@RegDwigнt Best version of that one was in Live at the Hollywood bowl

1:12 PM

Mar 7 '11 at 18:26, by RegDwight

Not as bad an ending as Lost or Dexter, but pretty tepid and inconclusive.

@RegDwigнt The best beer is disgusting. I didn't say that I myself don't like it. It is inarguably, objectively, universally disgusting. If you claim you like it, then there's something wrong with you as an individual. There I said it, the elephant in the room.

@Robusto well good to know now I don't have to start watching it anymore.

Weiner went out of his way to put a bow on it, and that hurt.

Argh! Spoilers!

1:14 PM

@Robusto Well, for as long as Don didn't move to the woods to become a lumberjack...

Well, of course nothing ever actually happened in Mad Men so that might not be an issue.

@RegDwigнt Close.

He's a lumberjack, and it's okay.

Don wears suspenders and a bra. He wishes he were a girlie.

@terdon I couldn't spoil something that was already spoiled.

@terdon the one episode I watched, they were showing slides of their Hawaii vacation. I said screw that and turned on Breaking Bad instead.

1:17 PM

@RegDwigнt Fair enough. Mind you, the dialogues in MM are truly excellent. As is the acting.

Yeah it's just not my era. It's Rob's, though. And so he watches and I don't.

@terdon Mad Men is a middling TV series. I can't see it cracking the Top 10, especially now.

@Robusto That's like saying you think nothing of Bach.

Why would you think of Bach. Just listen to his music. Some people.

@Mitch No, it's more like saying I think nothing of your so-called "mathematics" . . .

1:20 PM

I think seven of your so-called mathematics.

If that's not enough, take that up with Euler.

I think... oh, it's gone.

State Radio - Barn Storming

Mitch is no more!

@RegDwigнt Ewww, ler!

NOUler.

1:21 PM

@RegDwigнt NO U ler

argh! jinx!

Haha I am better than you.

ha ha

See, I even haha at a higher speed.

it;s funny because maybe it is maybe it isn't

So much better is how much better I am.

1:22 PM

so much for that

@Robusto Ein Vogel wollte Hochzeit feiern.

@RegDwigнt Birds are like that.

They mate for life

Fidiralala, fidiralala, fidirala, lala, la.

Not true.

1:23 PM

somebody is not going to make it

@RegDwigнt Oh.. you know words to the Mariage of Figaro?

Some birds mate for life. Just like some humans. Just like some stones.

@Mitch I might or might not know everything about the noces. I will tell you for $3000.

Some birds mate for money, some for convenience.

@RegDwigнt YOur prices are coming down. I'll wait for the fire sale.

After I set the fire

Don't want no short eagle round here.

Don't short change those on the short bus.

@Mitch I will come down with the price for $3000.

1:25 PM

Nice! now if you pay me to take it away, it's a deal.

I will pay you for $3000.

I just heard that polygamy is illegal in Russia. That seems reasonable.

Well, it's illegal in most countries.

@RegDwigнt bank wire info sent

Are you trying to make a list of things Russia has in common with a country?

1:28 PM

@RegDwigнt If every country put their head in the polygamy oven would you jump off that bridge too?

I would put my head in the polygamy for $4000.

@RegDwigнt I can generally tell when a programmer is Russian, even before he talks. They have a way of carrying themselves, a kind of body language. Hard to describe.

Luckily you don't have to. I know it, too.

They have a way of leaning in to people they're walking with. Like they're trying to speak into their buddy's ear, on the Q. T.

Whenever anybody says that (more often than you think) I always think, yeah I probably would, just because

1:30 PM

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Not that exactly, but close.

Yup.

@Robusto leans in closer hey I have this deal on an oven and a bridge. you want in?

Just jump off the oven already.

jumps

1:32 PM

Nobody wants in your bridge.

See? Bridge was invented in Russia.

Something something in Soviet Bridge.

They even called their leader Bridgenev.

Crazy people.

Matt E. Эллен

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> According to the Oxford English Dictionary, Bridge is the English pronunciation of a game called Biritch, which was also known as Russian Whist.

@MattE.Эллен That looks a lot like what Jacques Chirac would do to people.

@Robusto stop whist blowing.

Matt E. Эллен

1:35 PM

@RegDwigнt that particular politician is Lyndon Johnson

Also why the fuck they would write it "whist", then. It's vist, idiots.

@MattE.Эллен Who are those two? I feel like I should know them.

@MattE.Эллен I happen to know.

@RegDwigнt You vish.

I wonder what it would look like if he met with Jacques.

Matt E. Эллен

1:36 PM

@terdon I don't know the one on the left. the one on the right is Lyndon Johnson

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Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt a vistvull of dollars, not very whistfull

@MattE.Эллен the one on the left is Pee Wee Herman.

@MattE.Эллен Windows Whista, on the other hand...

@RegDwigнt If wisches were horseshit . . .

@MattE.Эллен Is that LBJ?

Nein-nein-nein, das sind Küchentücher, keine Gaulscheißtücher.

1:40 PM

@RegDwigнt Das ist mir scheißegal.

@Robusto come on everyone, who's not asked yet if that's Le Blow Job? Ask away, we'll be here all day.

Matt E. Эллен

@Robusto yes

I don't read the chat transcript, even while it's happening.

Including your contribution to it, eh.

I will just type on this here pad, let's see oh look at them letters. Typey typey typey type.

maquina de escribir invisible xD

Matt E. Эллен

@terdon The guy on the left is Abe Fortas

1:44 PM

Cheers

That's schizō, Abe.

Is he related to Abe Shinzo?

He's related to Charlie Shin.

@Robusto and that was the joke, duh.

Whence the funny thing above the o.

See, he is laughing.

Funny to you, perhaps.

No. Nothing I post is ever funny to me.

I always cry when in here.

In deep, utter, reverberant despair.

1:48 PM

@RegDwigнt Tsk, the funny bone's in the arm, not leg.

You're in the arm, not leg.

Why you...

I find it very good that Abe is wearing that blue Saul Goodman awareness ribbon from Season Three.

And Four.

And Five a and b.

The Three Stooges - Moe Rage Part 2

Those slaps are totally stooged.

> What is a word which describes the expierence one has in traffic

Matt E. Эллен

1:54 PM

@RegDwigнt hotdog

Armed robbery.

Matt E. Эллен

that's two words

There's two words in Spanish I don't understand.

Matt E. Эллен

which two?

All both of them.

1:56 PM

@MattE.Эллен Armedrobbery.

I have a feeling that that OP is looking for a hypernym for driving, commuting, biking and so on, but is failing to express himself adequately.

May 12 at 16:23, by snailboat

Are you running low on spaces?

UnfortunatelyIamyesAndpunctuationItreallysucks

Punctuation suck's

My expierence with it has expiered yesterday.

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> to my mind the sign is telling me one of two things: Either, (1) not to divide my car into pieces and park the separate parts in different car parks; or (2) not to park my car somewhere else and arrive on foot at the coffee house.

Okay I am officially retarded. I cannot arrive at either meaning.

I should be off drinking vodka.

@RegDwigнt I thought you were always off drinking vodka.

I thought that, too, but then I drank vodka and forgot what I was thinking.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:36 PM

@RegDwigнt If you're allowed to park in any car park, then you can park your car in all the car parks at once by dismantling it. If you're allowed to park in any car park, you can park in one that's not for Starbucks customers, but is instead reserved for, eg, bank customers, and then walk over to the Starbucks.

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2:52 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I am honestly not following any of this.

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I feel like I lost a part of my brain.

I am not understanding.

Is this some word play on the meanings of "park"?

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt for 2) to can be replaced with must

The sentence has exactly one meaning to me.

@MattE.Эллен yes, that much I know. How does it follow from that that dismantling or not dismantling must or must not take place?

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt well, that's 1) and is unrelated.

2:55 PM

This must be some sort of cruel April Fools y'all are playing on me.

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Matt E. Эллен

for 1) only can be taken to imply that a car could be parked in more than one car park at one time.

The sign says, and in the most straightforward manner, that everyone who visits Starbucks must park in the specially allocated area.

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt right, hence 2) (e.g. what about people who don't have a car)

@RegDwigнt That's fine if you believe Starbucks actually exists.

2:57 PM

@MattE.Эллен no. No. That doesn't work because of the "only".

That interpretation is only possible if you leave the only out.

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt it works with the only

If it said, "all visitors must park in area X", that says that you cannot arrive by foot.

But it says "all visitors must park in area X only", that is not in any other area.

Matt E. Эллен

and they must park

No. They must only park in area X.

It does not say they must park.

Matt E. Эллен

placement of adverbs changes meaning

only placement of adverbs changes meaning
placement of adverbs only changes meaning

2:59 PM

@MattE.Эллен placeement of adverbs chareallynges meaning

Well, apparently to some people it does. It does no such thing for me in this instance.

The question makes zero sense to me.

Especially since it is of course tongue-in-cheek.

I like to put adverbs inside the verbs. Neater that way.

Absolutely everyone at all knows exactly what the sign is saying. The rest is mental masturbation.

And masturbation I can't even participate in.

I should be crying.

@MattE.Эллен still, do me the favor of rewording the sign such that it is unambiguous.

Not that it is ambiguous in the first place, but I already mentioned that like fifthce.

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt If you're driving to Starbucks, park in our carpark. Don't use another carpark.

@RegDwigнt I agree it's not really ambiguous

@MattE.Эллен but that's what it says...

At the danger of repeating myself...

Anyway, thanks for trying.

At least I sort of got your point.

I still didn't get @MrShiny's, though. Nothing about his comment makes sense even after all your explanation.

What is the deal with the dismantling? What the heck is that about?

3:10 PM

I would reword the sign to say: "All visitors to Starbucks are asked to park in the Starbucks lot only. Thank you."

Yeah.

Then they replaced the first Starbucks with the complete name (for whatever pseudo-grandeur reasons that are plaguing them), and that ate up their space so they ellipsed the "are asked".

It is still the exact same sentence structure.

"X to do Y" is saying the same thing as "X is to do Y" is saying the same thing as "X is asked to do Y".

They didn't even include the "are asked" in their sign.

All women to use the ladies room.

Yup.

Does that mean no women must arrive by foot, or dismantle themselves?

Women cannot be prevented from dismantling themselves.

Nonono, you're thinking of Miley Cyrus. And she's no woman. I mean, just look at the name. That's a giveaway if there ever was one.

George Pompidou

3:15 PM

I listened to a piano arrangement of a Bach violin partita by a romantic Italian composer

oh man, what a trainwreck of awesome

a bit too much theater to it, but whatever.

@MattE.Эллен smoke and mirrors. Your example is different. "All visitors must park in area X only" means the same thing as "all visitors must only park in area X" and "all visitors must park only in area X". Yes, it does not mean the same thing as "only all visitors must park in area X", true. But the sign is not saying that, so that's irrelevant.

@GeorgePompidou Busoni?

Anyway, I am off for today. Happy imagining things.

Somehow this whole situation reminds me of Peaches Geldof.

George Pompidou

@Robusto yes, are you aware of this?

Off to park in the Starbucks lot, we hope.

George Pompidou

3:23 PM

I found it randomly in The Rubinstein Collection, on shuffle

I had never heard of it

@GeorgePompidou I know he did a lot of such transcriptions.

George Pompidou

neat

> Professor Ernest Brennecke of Columbia is credited with inventing a sentence that can be made to have eight different meanings by placing ONE WORD in all possible positions in the sentence:

> The word is "ONLY".

> The message:
> 1. ONLY I hit him in the eye yesterday. (No one else did)
> 2. I ONLY hit him in the eye yesterday. (Did not slap him)
> 3. I hit ONLY him in the eye yesterday. (I did not hit others)
> 4. I hit him ONLY in the eye yesterday. (I did not hit outside the eye)
> 5. I hit him in ONLY the eye yesterday. (Not other organs)

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt CU

George Pompidou

I don't even know who Busoni is. I only assumed he is a Italian romantic composer because of the Italian name and romantic sound

I ought to find more

let's see if there's more in The Rubinstein Collection

3:24 PM

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A: Correct position of "only"

In the given example there's not much difference. But there can be a great deal of difference in other constructions involving the same idea. Consider: I only eat fish when I'm sick. I eat fish only when I'm sick. I eat only fish when I'm sick. I submit that the first sentence is ...

First she called her father an idiot for calling her Peaches Honeyblossom, and kept complaining how rich people would always call their kids some shit like that. Then she went ahead and called her own sons Astala Dylan Willow and Phaedra Bloom Forever.

Some things I will just never understand.

Alas.

@GeorgePompidou *was

George Pompidou

yes yes

He was, more or less, the Italian Liszt. Or the piano counterpart to Paganini.

George Pompidou

can I send you this track?

3:26 PM

See if it's on YouTube.

George Pompidou

oh, there are two volumes in Rubinstein Collection with Bach/Busoni

Artur Rubinstein was a hell of a pianist. I enjoy his Beethoven sonatas very much.

George Pompidou

yes, a lot of people say he's the best Chopin interpreter—I think he's best Chopin and B. sonatas interpreter.

and late Mozart concertos

he's my favorite pianist, and the person off of whom I try most to model my piano playing.

I like him for early Romantics.

For Bach, on the piano, I still favor Glenn Gould. On harpsichord, Ralph Kirkpatrick does it for me.

George Pompidou

@Robusto I agree.

3:31 PM

And for Liszt?

For Liszt I don't think anybody can touch Michele Campanella.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt Yes, that's meaning 2.

George Pompidou

@terdon Kissin, Horowitz

for me

@Robusto With that name, he should be playing paganini

George Pompidou

I like Richter for Bach too.

3:32 PM

Campanella brings out the music in Liszt like nobody else.

George Pompidou

Swiatoslaw Richter.

@GeorgePompidou Yes, I have a collection of Horowitz, he (she?) is excellent.

He.

Vladimir.

George Pompidou

he's real quick.

and nimble.

capote.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/s/…

Should have been called Jack then.

George Pompidou

3:33 PM

there's the Busoni thing I stumbled upon

oh, I also have a copy of Vladimir Ashkenazy playing Das Wohltemperierte Klavier

which I find brilliant

But nobody brings out both the tenderness and the bravura in Beethoven like Rubinstein.

George Pompidou

stimmt

I find this to be breathtaking. The way he controls the tempo is incredible:

Rachmaninoff plays Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2

George Pompidou

my father saw Rubinstein in Budapest or some other eastern place

shortly before he died I think

I don't like Rachmaninoff as a pianist.

Russians are hit or miss for me.

(playing non-russian things)

I don't like him as a piano composer. :) His hands were too big.

3:35 PM

@GeorgePompidou I don't know him well enough to have an opinion. That particular piece is great though.

George Pompidou

the piece is great, but played not so great.

IGUDESMAN & JOO - Rachmaninov had big Hands

George Pompidou

here, listen to György Cziffra playing it.

that same piece.

you'll see the difference.

Michele Campanella - (Liszt) Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2

@GeorgePompidou Oh, the piece is brilliant, of course! I just really like the way he plays with the tempo there.

George Pompidou

3:36 PM

also that recording is of horrendous quality.

@GeorgePompidou Yes. That's a problem.

I don't like to listen through a fog of scratches and surface noise.

In fact, I refuse.

Shame. It really is a good one.

Unlike many, Campanella doesn't always put the pedal to the metal. His tempos are not the fastest, but that's because he's bring out the music. And if speed of performance were what music was all about, the Guinness Book of World Records would be a history of art.

Not as delicate as the Campanella you posted above (listening to it now, he has a very sweet touch) but brilliant nevertheless.

George Pompidou

3:39 PM

@Robusto Campanella is about speed.

He plays fast when the piece calls for it.

George Pompidou

it's a mating call.

it's like, check out how talented I am. our offspring will have similar talent.

all girls in 20ft radius get naked

But in contrast to other performers, many of his tempos seem leisurely.

George Pompidou

oof. I have to fix my shit.

4:14 PM

Hullo!

How are we all? :)

@Robusto Park at the Dunkin Donuts down the street then walk over to Starbucks.

4:53 PM

Hello!

Looks like I missed the rant.

I've never heard anything like "let's nuke all Muslims" here.

No sane person would say that.

By the way, @Arrowfar, there are several Muslims who are or were frequent visitors here.

Like David, but I haven't seen him in a while.

And I spend several afternoons a week with Muslims in real life...

But this is decidedly not the place where cool young Muslims go to meet and greet.

In fact, I was translating Ovid with a Muslim girl just 20 minutes ago.

I s'pose not.

Correction: with two Muslim girls.

Dirty dawg

Thank you.

It was the metamorphosis of Callisto.

There was sex...

You already said it was Ovid.

4:57 PM

Heh.

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