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@KitZ.Fox I see you have removed me as room owner. Why?

@Cerberus Do you want to discuss it publicly?

Yes, of course.

Or privately (I can create a room)?

No just tell me.

OK. I feel your philosophy toward chat moderation isn't compatible with room ownership.

That is rather abstract. Can you point to something concrete?

You do not moderate chat.

I've never kicked anyone from the room, that is true.

As far as I can tell, you have not ever moderated chat.

But nobody told me I had to use the owner's functions to be allowed to continue being one.

You don't have to use them to continue being one.

It may come in handy when we get e.g. spammers.

There are other room owners.

She is settling scores. This is jack in office unpleasantness.

@Robusto Hey, we're just having a neutral conversation here.

@KitZ.Fox They may not be present.

+power

What harm does it do to let me continue to be an owner?

@Cerberus Chat flags can be used for the same purpose.

@Cerberus What harm does it do to remove you?

Do you think you can answer that question yourself? It's not really a nice thing to do to disown someone.

Was it you who originally made me owner?

I don't remember.

I don't think it was you.

I still haven't heard anyone concrete, why it would be a problem to let me continue to be an owner.

@KitZ.Fox Was it your own idea to disown me?

I already answered why I removed you.

You have not mentioned anything concrete.

Yes, I did. You do not moderate chat.

As a moderator, I expect you to be more concrete when you act against someone who has a higher reputation on this site than you have.

Your expressed philosophy is anti-moderation. Therefore, I revoked the privilege.

Not at all.

I am for moderation.

You can pull rep-rank if you want. Take it to team@stackexchange.com. Rep is not relevant to what I am tasked with doing for this site.

I am just not for abusing the flag system. The majority on SE's Meta sites seem to agree with me that flagging out of context is too easy: see the links Terdon posted earlier and the most-upvoted answers.

You are free to misuse your powers, though. That is just fine.

@KitZ.Fox So you can give me nothing concrete?

@Cerberus I am not going to repeat myself just because you refuse to believe what I am saying to you.

I feel that you're not taking me very seriously.

Point to something concrete.

You give me no compelling reason why you should be room owner.

He doesnlt report to you.

Therefore, you are not one.

That is not a reason to disown me, if I did no harm.

Because disowning someone is like a personal slight.

Surely you can see that.

You needn't take it personally.

Wow, you really are quite the autocrat.

No need to defend me, Rob.

This isn't about you. It's about her getting revenge on me.

I don't care.

@KitZ.Fox Please give me a concrete example of what I did that gave you a reason to suddenly disown me. As a moderator, you owe it to us to give account of doing something that offends high-rep users on this site.

No vague, general statements.

She accused me of getting Jasper to delete his account and now she wants to double down. A one-mod Javert.

Room owners are appointed to assist with chat moderation when site mods are in absentia. You do not perform this function, so you were removed.

Nonsense.

Still nothing concrete. Moderators are chosen by the community and should give account of their actions when they may harm the community spirit.

Oh, and now we hear from the trolls and vandals.

Rob, please.

@KitZ.Fox I always try to get people to be polite towards each other and especially towards newcomers. I think that is part of moderating a room.

I may not need the owner's abilities to do that, but it is still a slight to disown me.

@Cerberus I am sorry that you feel that way.

@KitZ.Fox Do you dislike me?

@Cerberus Of course not.

@KitZ.Fox You have disliked me for at least a year. I think most of the regulars can testify to that.

@JasperLoy the parents are fighting again. hides underneath stairs

@Cerberus Why did you ask if you already knew the answer? Why are you telling me if you can't change your belief?

@KitZ.Fox I just want you to admit it.

You are wrong. That's all there is to it.

wonders what I did to cause all this

@Mitch Aww, it's not you. Here, have some Nutella.

has bad dreams of cutting self

Good lord, have I been away that long?

@JasperLoy Do you think Kit dislikes me?

@KitZ.Fox actually yes. Where the hell have you been?

Odd.

@Mitch The Overlook Hotel. Also making big career strides.

Work? Pfft.

hugs knees tightly and rocks back and forth

parents fighting. Working in coal mine. Scraping the last out of a thrown away Nutella packet

hands @Mitch a plush elephant It's OK, buddy.

Bunny!

Oh. It's an elephant.

I'll call him Bunny

Uh...

OK.

Why can't we all just get along?

@JasperLoy I have ignored Kit for a year, because she was always so dismissive towards me. For her to say now that she doesn't dislike me is rather odd.

I thought we were all kidding.

You mean you guys all meant everything you said?

@JasperLoy And I thought you said there was no conflict between her and me.

@Mitch Kit disowned me, for no concrete reason that she could tell me.

So, yeah, I am pissed.

Disowned? Holy shit.

Removed you as chat room moderatir

@Cerberus I explained why I removed you as room owner. I do not dislike you. I apologize that your feelings were hurt.

@KitZ.Fox You know this is about you and me. I'm not surprised that you would take it out on someone else, though. You demote Cerberus for capricious reasons involving inactivity as a room owner, yet you leave @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇, who has not done more than @Cerb has, because reasons don't really matter to you.

Well, here I am. Have at me.

@JasperLoy what? There was a real Maria here?

I left @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 because he has demonstrated his prudence in The Overlook Hotel, which is another room that he owns.

@KitZ.Fox That is rather a strange statement for someone who disliked me so much that we haven't talked for a year. And unbelievable, I might add.

You accused me in the past of getting Jasper to delete his account, and then you abandoned chat when I refused to talk to you. Does that sound like the action of a capable mod? One who can be entrusted with responsibility?