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Daniel
Daniel
12:25 AM
@Robusto Yo, I learned something new that day.
That a mod is a mod in all chatrooms. Sorry, will not be repeated.
I never noticed, for instance, that my name is blue
Wow, the background of my king is white. How ugly. I thought I made it the background of ELU.
That pixellated pink parchment...
Too much to learn.
(removed) indeed.
 
Jason Marsh
Jason Marsh
Guys, I'm planning to go through the following book:
http://www.amazon.com/Word-Power-Made-Norman-Lewis/dp/067174190X

I'm going to take IELTS to score overall band-score 8, would you recommend the book to me?
I've already bought the book because it wasn't too expensive at the book-store. I was solving first few pages of questions in the book and found that they are little bit challenging for me.
 
Daniel
Daniel
12:44 AM
I cannot; I have never heard of it.
I am a native speaker though, so I have not ever had to use an English manual such as the one you mention.
It looks like most of the chatters are not chatting right now.
 
Jason Marsh
Jason Marsh
I know.
 
Daniel
Daniel
Seeing as you already own the book, why do you want a recommendation for it?
 
Jason Marsh
Jason Marsh
I wanted to hear some opinions from you guys. Plus, I was bored.
 
Daniel
Daniel
I wouldn't be surprised if someone here could recommend a specific textbook.
 
Jason Marsh
Jason Marsh
btw
I was partially tempted to by the book because it had a section to improve words of insult.
 
Daniel
Daniel
12:57 AM
Ah. I suppose that's a thing to do when bored.
 
Jason Marsh
Jason Marsh
However, insults in the book don't sound strong enough to actually insult douche-bags on Dota 2.
They sound like some grandfathers of age 70s would use.
They are boring and not insulting at all.
This book is phucking pointless, isn't it?
No one in Dota would get enraged by me calling them "battle-ax"
 
Daniel
Daniel
So far you are right. How old is it?
1949!
No wonder.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
1:31 AM
@JasonMarsh So what does it say about "skeptic"?
 
Jason Marsh
Jason Marsh
"There's no God - That's your position and you're not going to budge from it" (You are an atheist)
Omg, this book hurts my feeling =*(
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
Books have a way of doing that...
...and so much more.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@JasonMarsh That is a strange characterisation of a skeptic...
 
Jason Marsh
Jason Marsh
Yeah
 
Jason Marsh
Jason Marsh
1:59 AM
wow
they give you 30k if you have side-effect after getting Lasik in Korea.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Oh, that AC. Yeah, I knew that one. Duh.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@tchrist I should have saved this one for April 1st, but try and find a font to properly display this text... web.archive.org/web/20080804223658/http://www.bartleby.com/61/…
 
Jason Marsh
Jason Marsh
2:19 AM
Guys, would it be ridiculous to get braces in age 23?
Most people get it done when they are in highschool right? =D..
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:33 AM
@Cerberus and rule-like 'admonition'
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
It's not ridiculous @JasonMarsh
 
Mitch
Mitch
Even much older get it. Teeth can (slowly!) move later in life and so require straightening.
dude! did you just wake up?
 
Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
@JasonMarsh It's not ridiculous to do anything at any age. Age is just a number.
 
Mitch
Mitch
some things are more difficult. Like getting braces when you're 5 years old is a waste.
 
Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
I felt pretty good on Tue. Now some things happened on Tue and I feel pretty hopeless again, sigh. It's hard to deal with these obsessions.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
2:44 AM
Try to "isolate" the things that happen pal.
Put them to one side and look for the different factors that make them affect you.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
@JasonMarsh I got them at 29.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Plus the ones they have today are invisible, more or less. At least they don't look like you're eating a birdcage.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
I had the regular-ass train tracks version.
Lisa, these braces are invisible, painless, and periodically release a burst of Calvin Klein's Obsession for Teeth.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
Who's your team to win the SB pal @cornbreadninja麵包忍者
 
Robusto
Robusto
That wasn't a come-on, btw.
Just a comment on braces, in general.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
2:56 AM
@skullpatrol We don't even know who's playin' yet. That said, ima say it'll be Packs/Pats and take the Packs.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Packers are going home empty from Seattle.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Yeah, probably.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
:O
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Pats/Seabirds, Pats to win.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Pats 31, Seattle 27 in SB
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
2:58 AM
Come on guys. What wins championships?
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Damn.
 
Robusto
Robusto
How do you write 49 in Roman numerals? I'm drawing a blank.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
XIX
no
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto Depends on the birdcage.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
wtf
IL?
 
Robusto
Robusto
2:58 AM
XXXIX?
XXXXIX?
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Naw, that's 39
 
Robusto
Robusto
Second one.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Next year it's Superbowl L.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
L -1
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
is IL
 
Robusto
Robusto
2:59 AM
But this year is like a Christmas song: No L.
 
Mitch
Mitch
XLIX
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Yes.
 
Mitch
Mitch
I now stuff.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
XL = 40, IX = 9
 
Mitch
Mitch
Ask me another
 
Robusto
Robusto
3:00 AM
@Mitch Stupid romans.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto Try multiplicaton. shudders
 
Robusto
Robusto
How the fuck did they ever rule the world with that numbering system?
I guess they killed anybody who made fun of them. And it.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Stealing shit from the Greeks.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
How did the Romans write zero? @Mitch
 
Mitch
Mitch
Slaves. They beat the slaves to learn their tables. That's what it takes.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
3:01 AM
L'oeuf.
Jul 31 '12 at 15:05, by Robusto
When you hit a French chicken in the stomach, does it say oeuf ?
 
Mitch
Mitch
The Romans were excellent Engineers. Arches, domes, roads, bridges that last forever.
@skullpatrol They didn't. That's how good they were.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Wow, you remembered that one.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
@Robusto I love it.
 
Mitch
Mitch
It's like the greeks and geometry. How did they do all that without variables? They just remembered stuff.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch How did they do trig without zero?
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 We've already established that you are a woman of discernment and taste.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
3:03 AM
@Robusto But not in the present continuous. That's reserved for McDonald's.
Fucking present continuous. Everyone abuses it now.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto you mean like sines and cosines? They didn't, that's pretty modern (Arabs maybe?)
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
I have a history of zero book somewhere.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
 
Robusto
Robusto
@Mitch I thought Pythagoras and Euclid were somehow responsible.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Hey.
 
Robusto
Robusto
3:06 AM
even your mother won't detect it so you're father won't know
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto Lot's of triangle proofs (side-angle-side etc), but no sine cosine tangent stuff, no 'prove sine 2 theta = 2 sin theta cos theta' or cos 30 = sqrt(3)/2
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
 
Robusto
Robusto
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Sindee. With an S.
I must go play Minecraft.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Sinebad
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
3:09 AM
After Moondog.
It's a sine of the times.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Yeah, I'm kind of digging this Moondog.
I already played FarCry 4 tonight and got tired. I'm on my way to bed.
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
That's a far cry from . . . nevermind.
Night!
 
Robusto
Robusto
Night!
Still waiting for the bells to stop.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
Later!
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Toodles!
 
Robusto
Robusto
3:12 AM
I'm out. Sleep well, me babies.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@Robusto yes, there are things that are equivalent in Euclid, (law of sines, law of cosines) but I wouldn't call them trigonometry. geometry yes.
snore
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
It's kind of interesting that today they teach trig before geometry
 
 
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Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
4:21 AM
@Mitch Are you still around?
 
 
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Charles Koppelman
Charles Koppelman
5:38 AM
@Cerberus So... admonition is different than admonishment?
And why wouldn't demolishment be a word?
 
 
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Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
9:08 AM
Hello @MattЭллен.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
Hi @JasperLoy
I posted on Programmers.se today. my first post there in a long time
I expected it will be downvoted :D
 
Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
I will be meeting my prof next week to tell him about my problems and my plans and see what he says. I met one of them last year, and cancelled another three because I was too unwell to go out.
@MattЭллен It's good to get downvotes. Once you get them, you no longer fear them.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
some small progress then. good :)
@JasperLoy true
@JasperLoy what do you think he will say?
 
Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
@MattЭллен I don't know. From day one, I am already prepared for the worst. Like I said, I might never get well or go to grad school. But I will give myself another 6 more years to achieve that.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
do you hope for the best?
 
Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
9:14 AM
Anyway, I am particularly worried that I might not be able to resolve certain OCD themes. These involve other people and I don't know how they will react when I try to resolve them. They may act in ways which prevent me from resolving them.
@MattЭллен Yes, I try to have some hope in my heart.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
good. preparedness and hope are equally necessary
 
Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
My life is really a tragedy. Things would be very different if my father died the day I was born.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
9:29 AM
@JasperLoy Each day is a day you're further away from the bad that happened
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
@Robusto yeah, I mean, that's like the definition of sinus. Duh.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
9:46 AM
@RegDwigнt I see you are a commie, with your sin US stance.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:57 AM
That is not even tangentially related here.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
@JasperLoy there will always be some things in life that you cannot change; who your father is and what he did to you is certainly one of them.
Be strong my friend.
Drag yourself up...one step at a time :-)
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
10:25 AM
 
Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
11:03 AM
@skullpatrol Thank you.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
You are very welcome @JasperLoy
Remember @JasperLoy we learn from our mistakes as well as our successes.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
11:31 AM
If you drag yourself up three steps and fall down two, you are still one step ahead of where you started from. Plus you can learn what to do differently next time. @JasperLoy defeat is not falling down. Defeat is not trying to get back up.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
11:55 AM
@JasperLoy
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
12:36 PM
@Robusto XLIX
It is best to think of Roman numerals thus.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
As numerals created by Romans? :D
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
1=I
4=IV
5=V
9=IX
10=X
40=XL
50=L
90=XC
100=C
etc.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
CMXCXLIXIV
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
I find it interesting that they were unable to understand the concept of zero.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY AND FOURTY NINE FIVE
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
12:41 PM
You must use those numbers, and in that order, until you get the number you need. If you need any of the other numbers, so anything starting with 2/3/6/7/8, you use multiples of the highest number possible that starts with 1. So the basic building blocks are the numbers I gave above; you have to use addition or multiplication based on those: no subtraction.
@MattЭллен Umm surely this was in jest, Mister.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
me? jest? mister?
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
Watch your mouth mister :P
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I can't see it from here
unless I pucker up extremely
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
Not you pal
&
not me
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
XC + LIV + II = CXLVI
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
12:45 PM
Show me the Roman numeral for one half.
I/II
-I/V = -1/5
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@MattЭллен Correct!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Cerberus woo!
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Now it's work-time.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
What was 500 again?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Fare ye well.
D.
 
skullpatrol
skullpatrol
12:50 PM
Thanks pal
See you later
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Cerberus cu
 
tchrist
tchrist
1:16 PM
@Cerberus The idiofuxen have used images not code points.
 
Andrew Leach
Andrew Leach
1:29 PM
@MattЭллен Hyperbole.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@AndrewLeach is the adjective "hyperbolic"?
 
Andrew Leach
Andrew Leach
Yup.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
Cool. I wasn't sure if that was only used for the graphs
 
Jasper Loy
Jasper Loy
@Cerberus Why are you teaching us how to write Roman numerals? We all know already!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
2:04 PM
A simple video explaining why laws requiring back-doors in technology can't prevent people from communicating privately
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Yay Grand Budapest Hotel. Nine Oscar nominations.
Apparently all it takes for one of the finest movies ever crafted to actually get nominated, is a year completely devoid of any other movies.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I heard good things about The Theory of Everything
I haint whatched it, tho
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I heard good things about Wild. But haven't watched either.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I enjoyed the Immitation Game, but I don't think it's oscar worthy
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Anyway, the point is they really were in deep trouble this year trying to find enough nominees.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
2:11 PM
yes
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Both film- and actor-wise.
And Grand Budapest Hotel is like from February last year or something.
They literally dug up something that could have competed last year.
Anyway. At this point it is long overdue for Wes Anderson to be decorated head to toe.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that is so fricking cumbersome.
Not to mention so not new.
That video is completely devoid of any information. Fascinating.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@RegDwigнt Yes, not new. But that's the point. It's an old idea and it's unbreakable.
@RegDwigнt Sometimes the government needs to be reminded of what people already know.
Not to mention regular people who know nothing about encryption.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I am not even sure about that. If you can be stupid enough to take your ID to a shootout, then you can be stupid enough to not burn a piece of paper. Or to make over 9000 typos in a three-word message rendering it unreadable to anyone.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
So while the UK's PM is trying to make a law requiring back doors in all encryption, that demonstrably does absolutely nothing to help prevent, say, criminals from communicating securely.
without even computers
@RegDwigнt Nah, typos are just typos.
each character is decrypted individually, so a typo doesn't make the rest of the message garbage.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Right okay, with this system you're right of course.
Lulz @ "To save time, here's one I already transcribed".
That is the opposite of saving time, you encryption god. You had to transcribe it twice now.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
2:18 PM
So when lawmakers try to "improve security" by weakening encryption, all they really do is reduce security, because it's been trivial for decades for people to communicate securely.
@RegDwigнt yeah "I don't know how to edit a video, so I'm going to make copies of my OTP which is actually a terrible thing to do"
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 so that brings me right to my main question. Who is the target audience of this video?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
Cameron
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Lawmakers won't give a shit. For people who know about encryption, it will be pointless blather. For people who know nothing about encryption, it will be well over their head.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@RegDwigнt The UK public, and the UK gov't. because the govt is trying to push through a law requiring back doors in all encryption.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
@MattЭллен yes. He will watch it, and he will proceed to change his ways. The only thing holding him back so far was the lack of this video.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
2:20 PM
@RegDwigнt just because someone won't watch something doens't make him not the target
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Okay okay okay.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@RegDwigнt All it takes is for the message to get out "What you're asking for is stupid AND impossible", and then if enough people repeat it, he might understand that what he's asking for is not only stupid, but impossible.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I thought the target was Teresa. Now I'm confused. I'll just shoot Cameron as well. Thanks at Matt Ellen from London for teaching me.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
So Matt, your job as a Brit is to spread the word, get the papers to take up the story.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@RegDwigнt You are welcome Elton John from Hollywood
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
2:22 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah. Like the million people that went to the streets of London to tell Blair to bugger off from Iraq. Totally worked.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think it's already in the Guardian (the idea that it's stupid, any way)
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
You see, "enough" is a weasel word.
You only know how much is enough in hindsight.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
how would a UK paper write the headline? "CAMERON ENCRYPTION BACK DOOR LAW STUPID AND IMPOSSIBLE"
nah, too clear
needs more noun piles
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Too long. Needs three two-letter words.
Or two three-letter words.
Like, "THE SUN". Yeah, that will sell.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
2:24 PM
"PM TECH HOLE PLAN STUPID, IMPOSSIBLE"
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
Old man thumbs nose at PM, you won't believe the result
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
13 reasons the PM's plan won't work. #9 shocked even the NSA
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 too much appeal to reason. This is press, not a university.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@MattЭллен Reasons 1-8 and 10-13 are "It's stupid" and #9 is "It's impossible"
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
2:26 PM
You put a giant photo of Cameron's on the front page and write "THIS FUCKER RULES US". Much better already. Appeal to deep instincts.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 lol
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Anyway, call be back in ten years to tell just how well this turned out.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
sets date in Google calendar
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Google calendar has a backdoor.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
it has a front door, too. In fact I'm not sure it even has walls
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
2:29 PM
You know, when Mr Shiny said "a really simple video explaining why laws can't prevent people from communicating privately", I was expecting to see two people just talking in person with no frigging app in-between.
Alas, what ever happened to that.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@RegDwigнt cctv on every corner. it's no longer private!
oh, you don't live in the UK. it's fine for you
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Yup.
I can talk to anyone anywhere with no one else ever getting wind of it.
And you wouldn't know if I'm saying that holding an AK in one hand and a Qu'ran in the other.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@MattЭллен Not much of an actual theory of everything though. I still don't know how to get my landlord to stop bugging me for rent. It's a conundrum.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Mitch pay the rent
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
gotta run
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
2:38 PM
CU
 
Mitch
Mitch
@MattЭллен I don't get it. Are you saying... no that makes no sense.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Mitch you could move out. then that landlord will stop bugging you for rent
@RegDwigнt what if you were talking to me?
would I know then?
 
Mitch
Mitch
@MattЭллен Nice. That'll work. I'll need a reference from him though for the next landlord. Next problem for the theory of everything...finding current disgruntled landlords phone number.
I don't think you can hold the PM to intelligence about technical things.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
> I don't think you can hold the PM to intelligence
very true
he's an attention seeking idiot
 
Mitch
Mitch
"even a child could do it" - You know why only children can fix the time on the video player? because they have all t time in the world to mess around with the machine.
@MattЭллен He has 'social' intelligence and luck in getting people to vote for him.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
2:48 PM
@Mitch he had luck who his parents were. he's just part of the old boy's network. People just vote for the party they vote for last time.
 
Mitch
Mitch
Or in the US, for people with the same last name.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
:D
 
Mitch
Mitch
"My parents voted for someone named Bush/Clinton, goddammit, I demand the right to do that too!"
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I have zero confidence in UK politicians. I have little experience with politicians of other countries
@Mitch I should change my name to Matt Obama and run for president
 
Mitch
Mitch
There was some Kurt Vonnegut story about how the president was a rotating 2 year random assignment of the population so that it wouldn't be getting people who actually wanted it.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
2:51 PM
:-D that would be an interesting way to do it
 
Mitch
Mitch
@MattЭллен I'd vote for that.
 
EFrog
EFrog
Is there a SE for creative writing? Questions like, "I have a character who [has these qualities]. What are some possible reasons/backstories?"
 
Mitch
Mitch
writing.SE?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@EFrog Writers
 
Mitch
Mitch
jinx!!
I was first!!
but not as useful!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
2:52 PM
@EFrog except that might not work there.
seems quite open ended
 
Mitch
Mitch
Even on topic questions can be off topic
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
also, if you want to ask about building worlds there's Worldbuilding
 
EFrog
EFrog
Right. I was just wondering. I only found SE a couple weeks ago, so I wasn't sure. I'll take a look at that one though. Thanks.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Mitch yeah. SE is a crazy place
 
EFrog
EFrog
Yes, I'm slowly falling in love with Worldbuilding lol.
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:53 PM
I see questions there all the time but I don't get it. Is it world building like for the real world, or is it for some game like minecraft?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@EFrog ah! :D I hear a lot of people feel the same
@Mitch like for story telling, I think
 
Mitch
Mitch
It's a bit speculative.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
like Cory Doctorow?
 
Mitch
Mitch
@MattЭллен So basically asking what would be plausible given some bizarrely implausible premise like 'magic exists' or 'pi = 3' or 'If only that chick really liked me'
 
EFrog
EFrog
Yeah it seems to be for things like creative writing, game design, roleplaying. What Mitch said.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
2:56 PM
@Mitch I'm not sure. something like that. I think @EFrog actually goes there
 
Mitch
Mitch
I think it's al about confidence...make up your rules and stick with them. Or change them if it doesn't suit the story. but be confident. "Faster-than-light speed is totally impossible. So effing what! Go with it!"
For example, the recent Presdestination
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I wrote a time travel book once
I used different civil servants though
well, I wrote the first draft of it
 
EFrog
EFrog
Yeah I've posted a few times. It's largely speculative. Things like, "In a world where people can switch freely between physical gender, what would happen to sexuality, gender identity, etc?" I assume it's about some story the OP is writing, looking for different possible plot points and trying to remain "believable".
 
pourjour
pourjour
Hi can someone please explain to me this
"rife with enthusiasm"
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
what don't you understand?
 
pourjour
pourjour
3:03 PM
Rife with
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
that link gives you the meaning of "rife with"
 
EFrog
EFrog
It's definition 1.1
 
pourjour
pourjour
I'm using a phone, I can't click the link
 
EFrog
EFrog
(rife with) Full of:
the streets were rife with rumour and fear
To be "rife with enthusiasm" means that the person is full of excitement.
 
pourjour
pourjour
Thank you
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
3:12 PM
@MattЭллен yeah see, and just how often does that happen? QED.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I may never know if you are wearing a burka while teaching school children!
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Did you know I held an AK and a Qur'an every time I said "QED" in this chat?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I did not
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Well. QED.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I still don't! ahhhhhhhhhhh
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
3:15 PM
I could never teach school children. School children are too stupid. Maybe if they learned shit first, I could teach them.
 
terdon
terdon
@RegDwigнt How can you type with your hands full?
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I am very, very good. That is how.
 
EFrog
EFrog
Nosetyping is a thing. They don't say you "peck" at your keyboard for nothing.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Like, you not seen a one-man orchestra or what? Kids these days.
AKs are pointy. You can totally type with them.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
and they have a butt, for when you need them to be the punchline
 
Mitch
Mitch
3:24 PM
 
EFrog
EFrog
Re: Worldbuilding?
 
Mitch
Mitch
@RegDwigнt School children know all about shit. That's the one thing they do know.
@RegDwigнt He don't know shit.
@MattЭллен "... then the bartender said AK-47 butt." hilarity and mirth ensue.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
it always does
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Mirth? Is that what Frodo's shirt was made of?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
Mirth from Rhyl
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
3:31 PM
You rhylly had to go there?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I rilly did
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
That can only mean won thing: the terrists have one.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
luckily I have one, two
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I am threeled to hear that.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
lol
 
Mitch
Mitch
3:32 PM
Mirthrandir = Gandlaugh
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
That one's a bit fourced
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
G and laugh? Is that something about women's anatomy?
 
Mitch
Mitch
Nope, that's Glandaugh
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I think you're reading off a bottle of Irish Whiskey.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Sounds good to me.
 
 
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crl
crl
5:26 PM
I've talked to people for a job offer (secludit), the job will deal with Python code, and I'm not an expert in Python, although I find it's a nice language
The part of job I'll start with is a sort of dropbox/google drive, in Python, to sync files in a cloud storage
So I'm a bit troubled, waiting for their reply also, if they say yes, should I accept or not
Mainly I like Python, but there are few things I dislike, like the "**" operator for powers, the j variable for the complex number instead of i, etc...
Anyway I started an online course on Python since weeks france-universite-numerique-mooc.fr/courses/inria/41001/…, I'll be less a noob
 
crl
crl
5:43 PM
Other than that they seem to use Ruby :( another language I'm not familiar at all
 
Robusto
Robusto
6:00 PM
@Barmar: I would if they involved an analysis based on Latin grammar. Also, the ones you mention are way more frequently encountered than datum non concessum. — Robusto 51 secs ago
 
 
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Johan Larsson
Johan Larsson
7:47 PM
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
8:15 PM
Good or bad?
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Good. What?
 
Johan Larsson
Johan Larsson
@Cerberus Nice with lots of snow.
The level of stuck does not show in the pic. The machine is ~70cm longer than the seat.
The level of stuck does not show in the pic. The machine is ~70cm longer than the seat.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Ah, so it was stuck?
That's what I meant by "stuck".
 
Johan Larsson
Johan Larsson
temporarily stuck
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
@JohanLarsson Oh dear.
 
Johan Larsson
Johan Larsson
8:26 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Someone must have thought about it right?
 
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
@JohanLarsson Probably :(
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
8:48 PM
@JohanLarsson Hilarious.
@JohanLarsson Aaaand again.
@JohanLarsson Ah okay, phew.
 
Mitch
Mitch
9:01 PM
No, you're right. There are no cultural contexts, just rules followed well or not. — Mitch 20 secs ago
 
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