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12:35 AM

@TRiG If we start doing that, we’ll need another moderator election in 9 days. :(

1:00 AM

in lɪŋˈgwɪstɪks, 2 hours ago, by TRiG

Tom Scott talks about grammatical gender and pronouns, and breaks his sacred vow to stick to descriptive linguistics. Rather good, actually.

1:24 AM

Of course, the people most guilty of posting so-called answers that are absolutely nothing but copypasted dictionary definitions are the ones screaming the loudest about how much it terribly inconveniences them to actually say where they are copypasting from.

2:01 AM

Guys, if someone has a name "Alex Larsen", and I want to call him with a name something shorter, then which one of the following is the best alternative?

1) Lar' or Al'
2) Lars
3) Lex
4) AL

5) Alsen

Lexi.

Right

No, wait.

Senlar.

Alex.

Noooo.

2:03 AM

Skip the Larson.

Alex is too boring

Pippi Longstocking might work.

@JasonMarsh Hush! He might hear you! Alex conquered the world, you know.

It's not as long as it seems.

@Cerberus pp

2:04 AM

Too short. It wouldn't work.

Almost better than Peewee.

LA

That sounds Indian.

Big-endianly.

lol LA

LA is unambiguous.

2:04 AM

A note to follow sol

A jink with dram or bread

The sun is westering.

Bread is a whole new different name, innit?

@JasonMarsh But shorter!

Right

2:06 AM

Dram. Definitely.

Bowie.

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@tchrist Hardly.

@Cerberus Did you know that a kilodram weighs four pounds?

LA is a pretty good one though

macbook# units '1024 drams' 'pound'
	* 4
	/ 0.25

2:08 AM

@tchrist Dram, or dragm?

Or is dram from dragma?

Dram, one sixteenth of an ounce.

Ah, so it is from drachma.

Guys, can you please come up with a nickname for me?

@JasonMarsh Nicky.

cool

2:12 AM

0

Q: Kabobs cross-contamination with beef and chicken: is it wise to use the same vegetables and onions?

When making kabobs (beef and chicken), could you use the same vegetables and onions for both?

verbs nouns adjectives pronouns

This question appears to be off-topic because it is about objects existing in two places simultaneously. — user867 10 mins ago

“Onions and vegetables”; I wonder what he thinks onions are if not vegetables?

Yes. I would use onions, peppers, eggplants, and squash -- at least -- with any meat, and also with shrimp, marinated feta, and panir, as well as alone. Tomatoes are fine if there's any danger of drying out. — John Lawler 37 secs ago

So glad Professor Lawler is always there to help out a struggling student.

Feta marionettes. . . .

Yes. I would use onions, peppers, eggplants, and squash -- at least -- with any meat, and also with shrimp, marinated feta, and panir, as well as alone. Tomatoes are fine if there's any danger of drying out. You only hafta worry about beef if you're feeding Hindus, and then a separate grill for beef is required. Vegetarians will require a non-meat grill. Lamb is OK for most non-vegetarians, and pork is OK for non-vegetarian non-Muslims and non-Jews. Got all that? — John Lawler 9 mins ago

2:29 AM

Why would a man want to eat vegetables with adorable names like tomato, eggplant and onion? Just eat meat and beer!

^_^...

@JasonMarsh The first two of those are fruits.

And one does not eat beer unless it has been dehydrated into a powder.

Well, you can "consume" them instead

The hard thing with eggplant is that it is hard to scramble.

No consommé required.

Those little Japanese buggers are fun, though.

Or are they Thai? I forget.

Skip the frogs.

Across the pond.

Like stones.

Jumping from one wave to the next.

Do people even check what domain they are on before they ask a random question?

Practising your rhetoric again, I see.

If anglophones had to justify all the usages of the articles, we'd all speak French. — Edwin Ashworth 3 hours ago

2:43 AM

Guys, which surname with "burn" ending is more popular in USA?
1) Marshburn
2) Mashburn
3) Houseburn

nfi

Hmm what?

gtfoohihnfc

@tchrist What?

@Cerberus asking rhetorical questions

2:45 AM

Well, obviously.

What were those lines you removed?

Failed attempts to link to Edwin’s comment.

Ah.

@TRiG Nice. He has a lot of good stuff.

Wait.. is he a linguist or a TV personality?

3:22 AM

0

A: Correct usage of replacing cuss words with symbols

Don't fuck with the African buffalo.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@TRiG ugh. Don't link to Islam.se or Christianity.se! They are like quicksand! Trainwrecks! Trains wrecking in quicksand!

3:38 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I’m thinking they might not survive.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist I'm not worried about them. It's me that gets trapped in the spectacle, whenever I click there.

In case you didn't notice, I'm a bit anti-religious. And the religion SEs are like a gold mine of headdesk opportunities.

So many strange things too. Like, Shog closed a Q about evolution, because the OP phrased it as "how do people who believe X reconcile it with Y?" It seems valid to me: anyone who believes X can answer, but Shog seemed to feel that it was too broad or something.

But meanwhile the question already had all the answers it needed: 1. evolution is reconciled with creation as metaphor, 2. creation is just a poem, 3. EVOLUTION ISN'T EVEN REAL, WHY YOU ASK THIS Q?

btw how did you find the answers that lack attribution for your list of good/bad/ugly?

I worked out too much so I might break my keyboard while typing because I'm fully pumped and strong right now.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 just a sec, on phone

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist okay, whenever you have time. I am wondering if there's an easy way to find my own answers that might need cleanup.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Just went through SWR q's with the most a's.

Damned Freud!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:46 AM

@tchrist ah. oh well, I was hoping for a SEDE query to magically do the work. Guess it's up the the ol' manual search.

"Clean code is when you look at a routine and it's pretty much what you expected"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasonMarsh That depends a lot on a person's expectations.

I think it's true, a nicely organised set of ifs to solve a problem looks cleaner than code squeezed into lesser lines of code.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist Does this meet the standard?

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A: Is “the girls are want to gossip” correct?

It should be "are wont to gossip", which means they are likely or inclined to gossip. Oxford Dictionaries Online gives (Of a person) in the habit of doing something; accustomed: he was wont to arise at 5.30 every morning

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Sure, that’s fine. I just think people should say where they get their citations from is all. A bunch of the people who routinely give nothing but a dictionary citation as an “answer” are arguing that it’s too much trouble on Meta.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:57 AM

@tchrist Okay, thanks.

I did a bunch of editing of things that I knew where were from.

I left comments mostly only in the places where there was not even a link.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

I don’t expect all ancient references to get fixed.

I would like to see the future postings include a named citation.

But there is a cadre of people who think that is not needed, and that they should not have to bother with it. They think the link is the citation, but that is not how I read the help center message, the Shog posting, or my own intuition.

I honestly do not understand the resistance.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I, personally, am fine with a link being considered an attribution for a short quote. It's a very common thing on the web. But I also see your other points as valid, and rules are rules. So I'm going to edit a few of my answers.

Short quotes are one thing, but most of these are almost nothing but dictionary copy-outs.

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A: Is there a word or phrase for the feeling you get after looking at a word for too long?

Based on Martha's accepted answer, I offer: Orthographic Incredulity

Now, that is a different issue.

It doesn’t copy, but it doesn’t really offer much of the author’s own words, either.

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A: Idiom or word for a very crowded place

How about "chock-full"? adjective [predic.] informal filled to overflowing: my case is chock-full of notes And the British term "chock-a-block". adjective [predic.] informal, chiefly British crammed full of people or things:

Not that I’m free of sin.

But these SWRs tend to draw nothing but those sorts of answers.

Actually, that last one is a good example of a bunch of different approaches, some good, some nasty, some so-so.

It has 39 answers!!!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist This one, at least, provides links to the dictionary where the answers come from. So in my mind it's not that bad, because it quotes the content (answer is relevant even if the link rots) and it also links (provides attribution, partial credit)

@tchrist The top one is mine. I didn't want to edit it right away because I want it to lie low until the hat-dash, when I might get a gold badge.

I just would like to be able to tell the difference between Urban Dictionary and Oxford without poking through.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Doesn’t really need editing, IMHO.

@Mitch Be careful what you wish for: I lay the blame for this at your feet.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:33 AM

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A: Why "homophobia" and not "sexualism" or similar?

From the etymology homophobic by 1971, from homo- (2) + -phobia. Related: Homophobe; homophobia (which is said to date from 1969) it points to the second meaning of homo, which is the slang version comb. form meaning "homosexual," abstracted since early 20c. from homosexual ...

It's amusing that that answer is accepted, and all it does is list the bare etymology and then refer to my own answer.

You are easily amused.

This is not a bad thing.

Consider the contrary proposition.

Hello.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

you, again!

4:49 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 didn't realize you had an interest in Islam; FWIW, I try to explain my rationale a bit better here.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So out of my first page of answers I've only edited two of them so far to improve attribution. Guess I'm not as bad a plagiarist as I thought!

(tl;dr: the question wasn't about Islam. It's the usual "what do folks who like X think about Y?" that shows up on every site - "what do programmers eat for breakfast", etc.)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Shog9 Well, my interest in Islam is akin to morbid curiosity, and really I'm not familiar enough with Islam.SE to really judge the closing of that particular question. My first impression is that it was fine, but I try to avoid going to islam.se and christianity.se.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No, you!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You try, but you know you cannot resist the pair.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Shog9 I don't really see it that way. To me, it assumes that there are muslims who are okay with evolution (a fair assumption, I know some myself) and then it asks for an explanation of how evolution gets reconciled with creation.

4:54 AM

there's a long history of these on Christianity.SE - a lot of folks thought they were fine when the site first launched; it didn't take very long for the cracks to appear though:
1. anyone can self-identify as "Christian" - you don't have to pass a test or show ID
2. anyone can have any opinion on anything
3. therefore, anyone can ask a question about anything or anyone if these questions are allowed.

The rules were eventually tightened up to be closer to "you must ask about the topic, not the people".

I'm not surprised to see the same sorts of problems cropping up on Islam.SE

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Q: Is "Some Christians say..." a valid justification for a question?

We've had a few questions lately that present an argument from a vague or ill defined set of "Christians" and ask for reasons why said group believes what they do: Why do some Christians believe it is moral to be a homosexual? Atheism is the default position. Isn't the burden of proof on the Ch...

discussion on-topic-definition

> So if a question asker wants to know why there are some Christians saying "they believe X", they should at a minimum provide information about who those Christians are or a source for the claim. That minimum baseline of notability allows for everyone to be on the same page: to be answering the question the asker intended to ask instead of speculating about any potential group that might fit the mould.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 without that ^^^, you just get folks speculating

and trust me, these questions do not age well. They're like magnets for everyone in need of a soapbox who happens to wander by.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Shog9 Yeah. Well, afaic the entirety of islam.se and christianity.se and judaism.se are magnets for soapboxes and speculation. But I'm an atheist, so. ;)

So I guess what you're saying is that you closed that question because of SE-format rules, really... it needs to be answerable.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I understand. But you might be surprised to learn that even some believers will indulge in soapboxery given the opportunity.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yup

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The evolution question, I feel, could squeak by, because there will be a core set of rationalizations that link evolution to the koran. But by that token I'd say the first evolution question, which the OP even linked to, already answered it. In which case I'd close it as a dupe.

But I can appreciate that they have rules on how to formulate questions; we do too.

@Shog9 I am not on Christianity.SE, but closing such questions seems prudent. Firstly, it is a loaded question, as the question presupposes a certain belief is held by Christians. Secondly, by not attributing the claim to anyone, it makes the claim unfalsifiable, as the asker can just say that it is the belief of another arbitrary denomination if someone attempts to refute the claim. This applies to other religion SE sites as well.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:18 AM

wow it's 1:20am here. Time for bed! bye

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Bye! It's 1:20 here too, so I will be retiring to bed as well.

2 hours later…

6:50 AM

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7:46 AM

Haha

Cute!

1 hour later…

9:06 AM

@Shog9 What, true believers indulging in soapbox oratory? Go on.

9:30 AM

@Mitch He's a computer programmer.

Seriously. He's quite often on the YouTube channel Computerphile. Only last night did I discover he also has his own channel. And apparently knows something about linguistics.

10:16 AM

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First time I see it in action.

11:14 AM

> If thine enemy wrong thee, buy each of his children a drum.

I don't get it.

11:26 AM

Drums are noisy and annoying. Kids make noise and are plenty annoying enough without a drum.

Ah, okay. Thanks.

11:42 AM

@RegDwigнt He was crowing about that on meta weeks ago. I'm surprised you took no notice.

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Q: Have I just been granted "superpowers"?

I just cast a closevote (duplicate) on this question, which at the time had no comments, answers, or votes. As I write, it says Marked as duplicate by FumbleFingers 2 minutes ago, and there's an answer posted 1 minute ago. The question does seem to be closed. But I'm not a mod, so how come the ...

Just like Arthur pulling Excalibur from the stone.

"Am I worthy? I shall only use my power for good."

12:37 PM

@tchrist Blame it on the eggs for their infernal variety and opinion-makingness. Damn you, you wonderful-terrible eggs!

1:17 PM

Limerick Machine: A man found it hard to express Himself. He often felt less Than inclined To speak his mind As wha…

posted on July 08, 2014 by sgdi

A man found it hard to express Himself. He often felt less Than inclined To speak his mind As what he said just came out in a mess

Matt Эллен

hi! coughs lucky that the internet doesn't spread real viruses!

Hi!

Matt Эллен

hi @KitFox :D

How was your weekend?

Matt Эллен

amazing!

1:25 PM

Woot!

Matt Эллен

but I probably caught a cold from the dirty festival goers

yeah! Prodigy and Iron Maiden were phenominal

At least they weren't carnies.

Matt Эллен

true

(I mean I definitely have a cold, but the source is unknown)

Metallica also put on a good show, but I'm not into them so much

@MattЭллен Huh? That's one hell of a combination. What festival was this?

Matt Эллен

Sonisphere

1:28 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It does. Just you can't see it.

Matt Эллен

Prodigy are pretty metal, really. I know they're seen as more dance-y

They put one hell of a show

nchk nchk nchk

Matt Эллен

untz untz untz

Also, Reel Big Fish played. Which was unexpected. I really like them, but they're not metal.

They got a good response, though, so wevs

What? she yells with her ears covered.

Matt Эллен

I SAID "DO YOU COME HERE OFTEN?"

1:31 PM

smiles, nods uncertainly

"YEAH, I LOVE THAT!"

Matt Эллен

"NO THANKS, I'M ALLERGIC"

:D

@MattЭллен I'd never consider them metal. I might call them some type of rock if pressed but electronic is where they're mostly at. Haven't heard them in years though.

I left my engagement ring on the windowsill at home and I keep sticking my thumb in the spot where it ought to be.

Morning.

Matt Эллен

1:37 PM

Allo

@KitFox at least you know where it is

@Robusto yes I saw the crowing on meta. I am saying I never saw the actual thing on the main site.

Matt Эллен

@terdon Electronic, definitely, but with power chords and heavy beats

True, true. And good fun anyway :)

I think the crowing took place before anyone had the chance to actually try it in action.

So you went to a festival @MattЭллен?

Matt Эллен

1:38 PM

@terdon yeah :D

@Cerberus I did indeed

It was hardly crowing. More like WTF just happened here?

Matt Эллен

I side-stepped the camping though, as the friends I went with lived only a few minutes down the road

@MattЭллен Heh, and obviously, we're exactly the same age. Had you pegged the moment you mentioned Prodigy :)

@MattЭллен Ohh that is very convenient.

Matt Эллен

@terdon lol

1:39 PM

I remember listening to the Prodigy and all those bands when I was 20...

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus yeah :D nostalgia is a great drug

@Cerberus Yeah, well, you're the same age I think. Though they were more of a high school than twenties thing for me. I discovered Jazz in my twenties.

When were you born @Cerb? I seem to recall 1980, like me.

1983.

Close!

Ah, so 20ies makes sense then :)

@MattЭллен Just like Novacaine For the Soul.

@terdon Yes! But that means they were only "hip" a couple of years and we stuck to those years?

Matt Эллен

1:43 PM

@Cerberus :D exactly!

And how is your respiratory system doing?

@Cerberus Huh? Couldn't catch that above my coughing.

Do you also breakdance in front of paraplegics? Evil hound.

Aww you too?

Me too?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus could be better. I seem to have come down with a cold. I hope I'll be better by tomorrow

I don't think I can blame this on the person at work, though

1:45 PM

Hmm too bad.

@terdon Matt was complaining about coughing and stuff a couple of days ago.

@Cerberus Ah, sorry. I thought that was a gibe at the poor smoker :P

Suffering is more bearable if you can blame someone for it.

@terdon Oww that would have been rather random...but, speaking of which, hello, person who saves society money!

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encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/…

Ohh encrypted...

Damn

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1:48 PM

Haha.

That actually doesn't really work for me...

Obviously you didn't step in front of a cement mixer hard enough.

Matt Эллен

Interesting take on "a problem shared is a problem halved"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox Yeah after Andrew shamed me into volunteering to write a meta post about it, I searched MSE and found that it has that. But the feature as implemented isn't useful to regular users, obv.

Right. Because you're supposed to be able to do penance and be forgiven.

Or something.

@RegDwigнt So that's what you're always doing here...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

1:55 PM

@KitFox It just makes it confusing. And some people change their names a lot. Besides, is it forgiveness if it's founded on deception and confusion?

Yes.

:D

Matt Эллен

lol

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Anyway, since an MSE post already exists I didn't write an MELU post.

LUMES

Matt Эллен

MULES

2:11 PM

LUMIA

sun

Huge ball of all-destroying nuclear fusion.

I explained mutually assured destruction to my eldest again this morning.

He asked me what a 'nuclear weapon' was.

what is it?

Silliness.

We also talked about Pearl Harbor.

2:18 PM

You can explain it with small forts and smaller bombs.

He got a new book about aircraft carriers at the library yesterday. Then he very timidly asked if it was OK if he got more books about army stuff.

I told him that was OK and he shouldn't be shy about learning things about the military, just that war can be pretty scary so I wanted to make sure we looked at that stuff together.

At least he is timid about it.

Aww. Now I feel like a jerk.

Matt Эллен

why do you feel like a jerk?

^++

2:21 PM

@MattЭллен I was kidding and wrote something mean.

Then I changed it to reality.

Matt Эллен

oh!

history lol

I remember being really fascinated with the machines and stuff, but then when you start reading about battles and people killing each other, it's suddenly a lot less fun.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox when he's older, he can watch "Band of Brothers"

We own that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

so do we.

2:25 PM

In the collector's tin.

I don't think my husband has watched it.

He has also not seen The Deerhunter.

Deerhunter is a great movie

Very moving. Also referenced in Archer several times, but he doesn't know that.

Archer?

It's an adult cartoon. Really ridiculous boy humor.

The kind that makes fun of itself.

Matt Эллен

like if James Bond was played by Ryan Reynolds

2:31 PM

yes

i am eating some really great chicken salad right now

i am so glad my husband talked me into this stupid 'clean eating challenge' this week

@KitFox is there a girl equivalent?

It seems like all the movies coming out are totally frat boy/teenage boy movies.

Salad is fresh when it is warm, tricky to get salad to feel like food and not just healthy.

@KitFox let him win, but just barely

@Mitch I don't know. I don't really like typical girl humor stuff.

@JohanLarsson It's salad in the sense of shredded meat mixed with dressing.

#meatsalad

2:43 PM

@Mitch He's already got me beat. I ate an entire pizza yesterday.

@JohanLarsson that sounds dirty.

In the sense like it fell on the floor but you quickly put it back on the plate.

I associated it with Julbord

@Mitch Nothing wrong with that, unless there is some epidemic where you are.

Or lots of dog poo.

@JohanLarsson ha ha. I think. Who is Julbord?

!!wiki julbord

Smörgåsbord () is a type of Scandinavian meal served buffet-style with multiple hot and cold dishes of various foods on a table, originating in Sweden. In Norway it is called koldtbord, in Denmark it is called det kolde bord (English: the cool table), in Iceland it is called hlaðborð, in Finland seisova pöytä, in Estonia rootsi laud, in Latvia Aukstais galds, in Lithuania Švediškas stalas and in Croatia Švedski stol (literally Swedish table), and in Germany Kaltes Buffet (lit. cold buffet), in Poland Szwedzki stół (same translation as in case of Croatia). Smörgåsbord became internationall...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:46 PM

@KitFox I have a friend who watches Archer. He talks about this and that plot and I had no idea what he was talking about. Turns out I was thinking of Arrow, which is a different thing entirely.

Smorgasbord is a US (Midwest) thing. I've never had it but it sounds great.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes, very different.

@Cerberus They did a study about the 5-second rule.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

but their names are so close

@Mitch It is smörgåsbord during Christmas

2:47 PM

They found that really it's not a 3 or 2 second rule.

It's a 0-second rule.

Or maybe it's good for your immune system!

You drop it on the ground...if there's E coli, it's on your food immediately.

I once dropped a candy bar on the tram stop.

I picked it up, kept walking for a bit, then started eating it. Didn't want people to see I ate from the ground.

People do things on the tram. Yuck.

But why would there be E. coli, and enough of them to make you sick?

Not on the tram, on the platform.

2:49 PM

Or what if you throw something in the trash but you realize it's not all done... and it's right on top... you could just take it out of the trash.

In the city centre. Where 10,000 people stand on any given day.

Of course you could. Beggars dig through trash.

@Cerberus shoes. feet. people walking everywhere are transferring E coli around with their shoes.

You're the one who mentioned dog poop.

But why would they have significant numbers of E. coli on their shoes, unless they've just stepped in dog poo?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch yeah people step in all kinds of literal poop all the time. animals are out there, constantly using our cities as their toilets.

If the ground is dry stone...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:51 PM

@Cerberus then it transfers the bacteria better.

@Cerberus They should come up with a general 'allergy' vaccine. give you a vaccine for all the disgusting cruddy things kids used to do playing in dirt, licking bus windows, etc.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch none of those have anything to do with allergies

Have you ever heard of anyone getting sick from picking up dropped food from the (dry) ground in the West?

Yes.

Also from handling money.

@Mitch But the licking is the vaccine! Then what would be the fun?

@KitFox People with normal immune systems? Source?

Now, respiratory diseases, that's a whole nother thing.

2:53 PM

@Cerberus Yes. Me.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 well, the latest trend is to consider the prevalence of allergies nowadays and the explanation is that people are too clean, washing their hands and using antibacterial soap for everything, so that their immune systems don't get enough exercise. (an allergy is an overreaction by the immunesystem)

@KitFox throws away money

pulls it back out of the trash. notices a half eaten candy bar

@KitFox I'm going to need more...it must be extremely rare.

Not really. It's why people who handle money frequently wear gloves.

@Mitch Yes. But I think it has not been definitely proven yet.

@KitFox really? I thought it was because your fingers get all chafed.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:55 PM

@Mitch But an allergy-vaccine prevents allergies. A "vaccine for all the disgusting things" prevents sickness from environmental things such as bacteria.

kdvr.com/2014/04/22/gross-just-how-dirty-is-our-money

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox Don't bother. Cerb doesn't believe in the germ theory of disease. You're barking up the wrong tree.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 work with me here, I'm doing the marketing, not the science.

treeing the wrong dog

peeing on the wrong tree

2:56 PM

@KitFox Everyone knows money and door handles carry more germs than loo seats. But that doesn't mean you could get sick from them. The article says nothing about that...

content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/…

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch As a person-with-allergies it is my solemn duty to correct any misconceptions about allergies I encounter.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Don't be ridiculous.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I'm not getting involved. I've had this conversation with you like 5 times now.

time for a fight?

2:57 PM

@Cerberus Oh. So you don't think there is a connection between teeming with bacteria and getting sick? How do you think people get sick?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I want my space car, and my replicator, and my pill that cures whatever.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch me too.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then why mention me?

@JohanLarsson Fight... on !

I get annoyed by the "immune system needs exercise" bullshit misconception.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:58 PM

@Cerberus As a warning to kit. I thought it was pretty clear.

@KitFox well, it's what people are saying.

@KitFox Our skins are packed with germs 24/7. We need a lot more than mere contact to get sick. It depends on the germ and other factors.

I think immune system needs exercise makes sense, is it a proven misconception?

It sounds like the 'chicken-pox' parties for kids so they catch chickenpox from one kid. Kinda weird.

That's not how the immune system works.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:59 PM

@Mitch If people weren't saying it, would it still be a misconception?

@JohanLarsson No; from what I have read, it is still an hypothesis. Many scientist think it might be true, but there is no definitive proof yet.

@Cerberus You put money in your wallet, you touch your face, you get sick.

Matt Эллен

oh is that what this pain in my chest is? that's my immune system doing reps?

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